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1timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 3:01am

So, if Kindle books allow you to share between six devices why not:

Have LibraryThing find you five people who want Kindles and share your taste—a collective of similar-minded Kindle owners?

Think of it. You agree to be part of the collective, and pay in for books. Perhaps, to give some incentives, if you buy a book you pay half and the collective pays the other half. Everyone, however, gets the book. If you don't pay, your device gets de-authorized and someone else can buy in.

Find me five programming-loving, history readers and I'd do it.

2justjim
Nov 20, 2009, 3:08am

Either:-

1. You have just revolutionised book clubs, or
2. In five (v) minutes, you Kindle will self destruct!

3timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 3:11am

Book clubs. Exactly. The problem is, the Kindle can only be linked to one account. So you're in the soup on this. No buying books only you can see. And you need to get a fresh one, or wipe your old one.

4justjim
Nov 20, 2009, 3:17am

you're in the soup on this

Not me, I don't have one of the curséd things. We in Australia have only recently been 'allowed' to buy one, and the early model at that.

5reading_fox
Nov 20, 2009, 4:31am

I think the problem here will be that the PC intermediary also counts as one of the devices. As far as I know you can't use the whispernet to send the books. So you're down to three people. It's the book that becomes registered, so you could register 3 different people for each book. If I understand the technology correctly.

The limit of 6, is a publisher requirement, not Kindle or even amazon.

But I like the idea - an electronic BookMooch. I'd be game for an Epub, version.

6auntmarge64
Nov 20, 2009, 9:01am

>4Not me, I don't have one of the curséd things. We in Australia have only recently been 'allowed' to buy one, and the early model at that.

The International version IS the latest version, unless you mean the DX (the over-sized one). Most of us prefer the smaller version because of its portability. My understanding of the delay in getting one out beyond US borders was the difficulty in meeting a varied group of international copyright laws, which they've apparently managed.

7_Zoe_
Nov 20, 2009, 9:09am

I think you can choose not to have your computers count.

That said, I still don't think the idea would work, because of this: if you buy a book you pay half and the collective pays the other half. Everyone, however, gets the book. If you don't pay, your device gets de-authorized and someone else can buy in.

If another member of the group gets a bit too purchase-happy, you have to either suck it up and pay or abandon all the books you purchased together previously.

Plus, I just don't think different people have exactly the same tastes. I would save a bit on the books that I was really interested in, at the cost of having to pay a bit for books that I wasn't really interested in. Add in the extra hassle of negotiating book purchases with a group of people, and I just don't think it's worth it. I'd rather buy my own books.

8andyl
Nov 20, 2009, 9:24am

#6

Except it isn't quite the same - it is missing some software features. Network charging reduces the utility of others.

The experimental web browser is not available for Kindle UK (I presume the same is true for other non-North American versions)
Kindle Blog subscriptions are missing.
The UK network charges quite a bit for transfer of documents ($1 per MB).

9auntmarge64
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 10:10am

>3 timspalding: And you need to get a fresh one, or wipe your old one.

Or you add all the other club members to your account. Of course, they get to share all the things you already have, but you don't lose them.

>5 reading_fox: I think the problem here will be that the PC intermediary also counts as one of the devices. As far as I know you can't use the whispernet to send the books. So you're down to three people. It's the book that becomes registered, so you could register 3 different people for each book. If I understand the technology correctly.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the PC intermediary" and "down to three people". Six devices in all can be shared. The account owner can handle all the devices from a computer account, but that computer doesn't have to be among the 6 devices. (In could be, of course, and therefore able to read the books). The person with the account can send books to each device directly from his/her computer. So, for instance, my niece and SIL and I all have Kindles on my account. They can order books from their own device (and it will be charged to my account), or I can order it and send it to whichever I want. If I gave them my account info they could access the account from their own PCs without adding said PCs to the number of devices.

I've also registered my PC so I could play with the Kindle for PC program. Anyone in a group of 6 sharing an account can download samples to, and order books directly from, the registered PC or laptop. It does look as though a person registering a PC/laptop would need access to the account owner's email address and password in order to register the device, so some trust would be essential, because the password can also be used to access the main account and its account payment information. I think the password could be changed once the network of devices was established, but I'm not sure whether this would affect the functioning of the connected devices.

10auntmarge64
Nov 20, 2009, 4:36pm

>8 andyl: The experimental web browser is not available for Kindle UK (I presume the same is true for other non-North American versions)
Kindle Blog subscriptions are missing.
The UK network charges quite a bit for transfer of documents ($1 per MB).


Interesting....Well, here are my thoughts and some things I found out:

Experimental web browser: I realize it seems like a nice potential feature, but it's pretty much worthless. Tried it it a couple of times, haven't used it in at least a year. Experimental says it all, although I live in a slower Whispernet area, so maybe it's better in the high speed areas.

Blogs: OK, that sucks.

$1/MB is high, you're right. In the US it's $.15/MB. Don't forget, though, you can also load the docs via USB for free.

On the up side, the International Kindle can use Whispernet worldwide, while my own K2, purchased earlier in the year, can be used only in the US. So in that way the International Kindle is actually a newer version.

Regarding # of devices, here is what Amazon says: Books can be shared between Kindles, Kindle for PC, or iPhones that are registered to the same account. There may be limits on the number of devices (usually 6) that can simultaneously use a single book. Subscriptions to newspapers or periodicals cannot be shared on multiple devices. .

11krazy4katz
Nov 20, 2009, 7:42pm

>1 timspalding:

Too complicated. As Zoe said, I would rather buy my own my books. Even kindle books. Life is too short to figure out all the ramifications of letting 5 other people, who you probably only "know" through the internet, co-own your books.

But is is an interesting thought!

k4k

12staffordcastle
Nov 20, 2009, 7:50pm

My question is whether Amazon is okay with this.

13SugarCreekRanch
Nov 20, 2009, 8:56pm

11: Life is too short to figure out all the ramifications of letting 5 other people, who you probably only "know" through the internet, co-own your books.

Exactly. A common taste in books doesn't imply trustworthiness.

14timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 9:19pm

If we co-own a cat, you can forget to feed it. What can you do if we co-own a book on Kindle?

15_Zoe_
Edited: Nov 20, 2009, 9:25pm

>14 timspalding: Buy way more books than you're supposed to, in genres that we don't agree on.

16timspalding
Nov 20, 2009, 9:53pm

Yeah, I think it needs to be set up so you pay for everything you add. But you get the benefit from all.