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Sign up for LibraryThing to find out whether you'll like this book. ▾Conversations (About links) No current Talk conversations about this book. » See also 1 mention » Add other authors (5 possible) Author name | Role | Type of author | Work? | Status | Beethoven, Ludwig van | Composer | primary author | all editions | confirmed | Berlin Philharmonic | — | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Burrows, Stuart | Interprète | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Cachemaille, Gilles | Performer (bass) | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Chicago Symphony Orchestra | Orchestre | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Gardiner, John Eliot | Conductor | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Gewandhausorchester Leipzig | Orchestra | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Karajan, Herbert von | — | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Lorengar, Pilar | Interprète | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Masur, Kurt | Conductor | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Minnesota Orchestra | Orchestra | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Minton, Yvonne | Interprète | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | NBC Symphony Orchestra | Orchestra | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Nibeling, Hugo | director | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique | Orchestra | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Orgonášová, Ľuba | Performer (soprano) | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Otter, Anne Sofie von | Performer (mezzo-soprano) | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Rolfe Johnson, Anthony | Performer (tenor) | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Solti, Georg | Chef d'orchestre | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Szell, George | Conductor | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Talvela, Martti | Interprète | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | The Monteverdi Choir | Performer | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Toscanini, Arturo | — | secondary author | some editions | confirmed | Vänskä, Osmo | Conductor | secondary author | some editions | confirmed |
▾Series and work relationships Belongs to Publisher SeriesIs contained inBeethoven : Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Creatures of Prometheus, Op.43 : Overture + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.2, Op.72a + Leanore overture no.3, Op.72b + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Creatures of Prometheus, Op.43 : Overture + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.2, Op.72a + Leonore overture no.3, Op.72b + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Creatures of Prometheus, Op.43 : Overture and ballet music, Op.43 + Missa solemnis, Op.123 + Romance for violin and orchestra no.1, Op.40 + Romance for violin and orchestra no.2, Op.50 + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony n by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Calm sea and prosperous voyage, Op.112 {excerpts} + Coriolan overture, Op. 62 + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.2, Op.72a + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Fidelio : Leonore overture no.1, Op.138 + no.2, Op.72a + no.3, Op72b + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.1, Op.138 + Leonore overture no.2, Op.72a + Leonore overture no.3, Op.72b + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Consecration of the house, Op.124 : Overture + Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Creatures of Prometheus, Op.43 : Overture + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Ruins Of Athens, Op.113 {excerpts} + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 i by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Consecration of the house, Op.124 : Overture + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.2, Op.72a + Leonore overture no.3, Op.72b + King Stephen, Op.117 : Overture + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 i by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Coriolan overture, Op.62 + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.3, Op.72b +Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Creatures of Prometheus, Op.43 : Overture + Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonora overture no.3, Op.72b + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven : Egmont, Op.84 : Overture + Fidelio : Leonore overture no.3, Op.72c + King Stephen, Op.117 + Symphony no.1 in C major, Op.21 + Symphony no.2 in D major, Op.36 + Symphony no.3 in E flat major, Op. 55 'Eroica' + Symphony no.4 in B flat major, Op.60 + Symphony no.5 in C Minor, Op.67 + Symphony no.6 in F major, Op.68 'Pastoral' + Symphony no.7 in A major, Op.92 + Symphony no.8 in F major, Op.93 + Symphony no.9 in D minor, Op.125 'Choral' + Symphony no.9 Rehearsal Sketch [sound recording] by Ludwig van Beethoven Contains
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In his essay packaged with the discs, the noted British critic Richard Osborne sets out that it was Karajan's four separate Beethoven cycles that lay at the heart of his success as an interpreter of the Austro-German orchestral tradition. (This is the second such cycle, the first having been recorded with the Berliners in 1961-62.) Certainly this is a persuading argument, as for the most part these are textbook performances. There is only one point where I part from that analysis, and that, amazingly, is the final movement of the Ninth, the 'Ode to Joy'. I have listened and re-listened to this, and I cannot escape from the strange impression that to me, it sounds as though it is a piece that has been put under an orchestral microscope. Individual phrases from different instruments emerge from the whole all the way through this performance; whether this is Karajan's direction or the doing of the recording producer, Michel Glotz. or the balance engineer, Günther Hermanns, I cannot say. The overall effect, to me, is fussy and over-analytical, as if Karajan is saying "Here is the pinnacle of German musical art, and now I am going to dissect it". This strikes me as very odd, but it also seems not unlike Karajan; indeed, I have come across it in other recordings of other composers' works.
I have heard others compare Karajan recordings to Mercedes-Benz cars - superbly engineered driving machines - and the analogy may apply here. Germanic engineering is world-famous; but sometimes, Germans over-engineer something, as much for the love of the engineering as anything else. The final movement of the Beethoven 9th in this set strikes me as just that - over-engineered, taken apart and put back together and explained in minute detail so we can all marvel at the technical ingenuity. But sometimes, we just want to drive the car; sometimes, we just want to listen to the music; and I find it difficult with this interpretation. ( )