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Debunking economics : the naked emperor dethroned? (edition 2011)

by Steve Keen

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Debunking Economics exposes what many non-economists may have suspected and a minority of economists have long known: that economic theory is not only unpalatable, but also plain wrong. When the original Debunking was published back in 2001, the market economy seemed invincible, and conventional 'neoclassical' economic theory basked in the limelight. Steve Keen argued that economists deserved none of the credit for the economy's performance, and that 'the false confidence it has engendered in the stability of the market economy has encouraged policy-makers to dismantle some of the institutions which initially evolved to try to keep its instability within limits'. That instability exploded with the devastating financial crisis of 2007, and now haunts the global economy with the prospect of another Depression.In this radically updated and greatly expanded new edition, Keen builds on his scathing critique of conventional economic theory whilst explaining what mainstream economists cannot: why the crisis occurred, why it is proving to be intractable, and what needs to be done to end it.Essential for anyone who has ever doubted the advice or reasoning of economists, Debunking Economics provides a signpost to a better future.… (more)
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Title:Debunking economics : the naked emperor dethroned?
Authors:Steve Keen
Info:London : Zed Book, c2011.
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Debunking Economics - Revised and Expanded Edition: The Naked Emperor Dethroned? by Steve Keen

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Not very clear or convincing. Constantly feel like I need a glossary (uses "marginal productivity", "marginal product of labour" and "marginal revenue product" near interchangeably for example. No idea what makes each different). I fully admit this is at least partially my own fault - it would be ridiculous to expect to understand a huge amount of economics just reading straight through. But I felt it could have been made easier. I felt often like I could see how a neoclassical economist would rebut what's being said, although obviously not the details. I'm no friend of neoclassical economics but he seems to sell it a bit short - teaching ridiculously simplistic assumptions to undergrads and then teaching stuff closer to reality later is sadly pretty typical. He shows that the basis of neoclassical economics is crap but a lot of what he says is "right" feels remarkably similar. A lot of the time it didn't feel like it was hitting the right mark between "teaching neoclassical economics and showing the problems" and "sketching out an alternative".

Why is it taken as a given that capital makes a profit in and of itself? It's just stated with no evidence (chapter 7, while explaining Sraffa). Coming from a Marxist perspective it feels pretty pathetic. Actually a lot of the time I was reminded of Marx - for example talk about classes being better ways of analysing things, labour considered separately/important - but he criticises Marxist perspectives, even devoting a whole chapter to it. He apparently knows a lot about Marx but he makes a few criticisms which are just absurd - for example, the idea he quotes of a "commodity residue", which should somehow "prove" the labour theory of value is incorrect by showing that there's always a commodity that labour has to work with. This ignores that capitalism is presented by Marx as historical (therefore not everything previously made has been a capitalist commodity) for a start. http://mccaine.org/2012/07/04/steve-keens-critique-of-marxs-theory-of-value-a-re... This article gives a lot of criticism of this particular section.

He thinks science can be non-ideological but economics isn't and seems to think that the reason for this has nothing to do with the role of economics or anything, just that economists are stubborn or something.

Really it's not my ideological problems that are frustrating me, it's just that I'm not really building up a super clear picture either of neoclassical economics or his alternative because it's tough going with little help from the text in terms of either a glossary, summaries of concepts or anything like that. I don't know if I'm expecting too much but I guess it's important to point out that if you're looking for an intro to economics combined with a criticism of it you'll have a lot of trouble most likely. ( )
  tombomp | Oct 31, 2023 |
The book is important and meaningful reading for anyone interested in economics or politics. His points are cogent and persuasive. I gave the book three stars primarily for three reasons: First, while it has many useful charts, they, for the most part, lack legends. If labelled, many of the curves are identified by cryptic acronyms not otherwise identified. Second, for those of us who are non-economists, the book greatly could use a glossary. While terms and acronyms are defined in the text, they are often addressed again in later chapters with no explanation -- a glossary would solve the problem. Finally, the text is uneven -- in many places it is quite clear and able to be followed by the layman, in others it introduces concepts which are foreign to non-economists without explanation. Oddly, a little simple math might help to solve the problem.

That said, I highly recommend this book. ( )
  bearymore | Feb 24, 2019 |
At last finally managed to finish the book and the pain can stop. Pain because it required perseverance, pain because it was so annoyingly written at times, pain because economic theory does not rest easy with me but such an important book. A book we should all read for want of a better one. It has some tremendously important things to say, important for all of us to get a handle on.

Therefore it is even greater shame that Steve Keen failed to deliver a coherent book. At times it was pure soap box ranting away, it was so repetitive, how many more times do we have to go over the self same ground, I get it. At times it was a defensive monologue answering all the hurtful pricks of the establishment rejections, sometimes patronising, but well into the halfway and a bit of the last third, sometimes well written parts sweeping you along easily with a skilful expose. He can write if only he could get rid of that chip on his shoulders and could marshal all thoughts into a coherent structure.

Trouble with the soap box orator is you know it is onesided, you know there is another entirely more plausible and rational explanation, the rant invites disbelief. I am hardly going to read another book about economics. When every example Steve offers us as an 'objective' example of mainstream economics leave me speechless with incredulity, when his offering of an alternate economic theory (in a well written section) seems to so closely match my limited experience of real world I just cannot sustain any detachment. I am won over. In another section when he maps out the history of economics, again I get swept along, I begin to see that starting out with a simple profit and loss balanced book approach you would expect economics to be based on equilibrium. Just at the end, the theme that economics and a social structure, capitalism v socialism, are tied into together, is tossed in undeveloped. So what have we got, a history, a political economic treatise, an alternate economic theory, a resume of current thought and practice, yes all of those jumbled up together.

But do not be put off this book is important. You do need to understand that mainstream economics is based on a simplistic view of a naive world where all real events that challenge the theory are made exceptions, assumed away so they can be ignored. Where the world response equals an individual's rational actions where there is a know stable future then times up. When events are linear and do not follow a dynamic chaotic pattern. Just a couple of examples to whet your appetite. Read the book, understand that, even if like me you dont completely buy Steve Keen, there are alternatives to the crazed mainstream economics which still govern our world.

This is an important book. Demoted by a couple of stars because it fails the reader but do read it anyway. ( )
  tonysomerset | Oct 21, 2013 |
For people, like me, who had almost given up entirely on the academic field of Economics because of ridiculous theories and poor teaching, there is fortunately still Steve Keen. In this book, the Australian Keen shows the errors of the standard views of neoclassical (orthodox) economics.

Not just some side aspects of the theory, but the actual core views of economics as it is taught in universities everywhere unravels before your eyes. Keen masterfully applies both economic models and historical analysis to show that orthodox economists not only do not know what theories exist in their own field, but they also have no inkling of the history of economics and what this means for their approach. This, combined with a possibly even poorer understanding of the philosophy of science (Keen uses Milton Friedman as the main example, but more could have been named), leads to a series of ridiculous assumptions and even more ridiculous results. That the economists consistently ignore the way industrial managers and market analysts etc. do NOT apply their pet theories is just the icing on the cake.

The book is heavy reading for those with no knowledge of economics or maths, but certainly not impossible. A basic understanding of economics and mathematics as taught at high school level (at least in The Netherlands) goes a long way, and Keen fortunately writes well and attempts to avoid long mathematical proofs as much as possible.

The only downside to the book is that his treatment of alternative theories, especially the quite closely linked Austrian school of economics, is very short and vague. This leads to the impression that Keen knows what's wrong with neoclassics, but not what is to be done instead. His critique of Marxist political economics is also very weak, especially considering how little interest he pays to it. Therefore, start by reading this book, but don't end there. ( )
  McCaine | Feb 2, 2007 |
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‘Debunking Economics may not delight economic conservatives, but it is certainly necessary. Our hope must be that it will be read by enough people to prompt reform of our economic thinking and save our endangered societies’ - James Cumes, author of ‘How to Become a Millionaire without really working’, and other books

‘Particularly useful to those, like myself, who are interested in economics but not formally trained in it. Debunking Economics reveals that neoclassical economic doctrines are faulty... because the fundamental assumptions from which such doctrines have been derived are less than self-evident’ - Henry C.K. Liu, Chairman, Liu Investment Group

‘If you are interested in how the economy really works (and want to challenge an economist) then read this book’ - James Dick, Professional Members Division, The Economic Society of Australia

‘Keen’s serious but accessible look at the shaky logical and mathematical foundations of neoclassical economics will be of great interest to students and open-minded economists alike. And his insightful survey of alternative schools of thought lends substance to his call for a new economics.’ - Don Goldstein, Associate Professor of Economics, Allegheny College

‘A wide-ranging yet accessible critique of the staples of neoclassical pedagogy’ - Alan G. Isaac, Associate Professor of Economics, American University

‘This text carefully follows the form of argument familiar to all economics undergraduates, through to conclusions from which under-graduates are more usually protected. Avoiding polemic or hyperbole, the case that he presents is all the more damning for its clarity and systematic approach’ - John M. Legge, Associate Professor, LaTrobe University

‘Debunking Economics... will transform the way economics is taught and thought’ - Jan Otto Andersson, Professor of Economics, Åbo Akademi University, Finland

‘Professional economists include their own best critics. Steve Keen is one of the very best... translating the algebra into plain language, he deploys a devastating theoretical attack on neoclassical theory’ - Hugh Stretton, Fellow of the Academies of the Humanities and Social Sciences, and author of ‘Economics: A New Introduction’

‘Refreshingly provocative’ - Geoffrey Fishburn, Department of Economics, University of New South Wales
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Debunking Economics exposes what many non-economists may have suspected and a minority of economists have long known: that economic theory is not only unpalatable, but also plain wrong. When the original Debunking was published back in 2001, the market economy seemed invincible, and conventional 'neoclassical' economic theory basked in the limelight. Steve Keen argued that economists deserved none of the credit for the economy's performance, and that 'the false confidence it has engendered in the stability of the market economy has encouraged policy-makers to dismantle some of the institutions which initially evolved to try to keep its instability within limits'. That instability exploded with the devastating financial crisis of 2007, and now haunts the global economy with the prospect of another Depression.In this radically updated and greatly expanded new edition, Keen builds on his scathing critique of conventional economic theory whilst explaining what mainstream economists cannot: why the crisis occurred, why it is proving to be intractable, and what needs to be done to end it.Essential for anyone who has ever doubted the advice or reasoning of economists, Debunking Economics provides a signpost to a better future.

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