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Heretics of Dune (Gollancz SF S.): The Fifth Dune Novel (edition 2003)

by Frank Herbert (Author)

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On Arrakis, now called Rakis, known to legend as Dune, ten times ten centuries have passed. The planet is becoming desert again. The Lost Ones are returning home from the far reaches of space. The great sandworms are dying, and the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Tleilax struggle to direct the future of Dune. The children of Dune's children awaken as from a dream, wielding the new power of heresy called love.… (more)
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Title:Heretics of Dune (Gollancz SF S.): The Fifth Dune Novel
Authors:Frank Herbert (Author)
Info:Gollancz (2003), Edition: New Ed, 512 pages
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This is the 5th article on my reread of the Dune series. It's an analysis of 11,600 words.

Among other things, the text looks at Herbert’s narrative bluff, and examines the Bene Gesserit’s motivations. It discusses love, heresy and variation as themes in the novel, and looks at how the book’s characters are permutations of those of Dune. I try the explain why I liked this book the most of the sequels, even with all its shortcomings. The most important focus of the analysis is on a major shift in the series, as in Heretics, under the influence of Einstein and quantum theory, Herbert casts prescience not as something passive, but as an active, shaping force. This sea change alters the ontology underlying the series drastically. I also look at an underlying principle Herbert uses: perception shaping reality.

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  bormgans | Jul 31, 2021 |
While I love a lot about the Dune universe, the books just get worse and worse. This one has a page or two of something interesting (hints about one of the organizations, references to something that happened before), and sometimes intriguing descriptions of some character or action, but inane plot and a weird focus on space whores. I’ll read book six, then the wiki entries, and then be done with Dune. ( )
  octal | Jan 1, 2021 |
Oddly I think this is my favorite of the Dune series. It is so out there and unexpected that it just blew me away. ( )
  b_coli | Nov 25, 2020 |
The gratuitive sex scenes distract from the epic story. I'm no prude but I found these parts boring, and couldn't wait to get back to the actual story line. Did the author lose his writing skills? While there are a few exciting reveals of the Dune world, and I'm glad I read the book just for those, the book was a great big pornography bore. ( )
  SonoranDreamer | Sep 2, 2020 |
I have to admit that I put this one on the backburner for years and years and years, even though I attempted to re-read the series several times over the decades, I always got stuck right at the end of [b:God Emperor of Dune|42432|God Emperor of Dune (Dune Chronicles #4)|Frank Herbert|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1327131560s/42432.jpg|3634588] and something in me just didn't want to pick up the two novels afterward.

This is strange to me! I thought the fifth and sixth books were rather awesome, frankly!

And that's why I'm skipping books 2, 3, and 4 altogether and jumping right back in to the books that I have only read once. And then I'll be picking up the series carried on by Anderson and Frank's son following the events of Chapterhouse.

So how did I think this book held up after all these years?

Pretty good! There were a few slow parts, but the one thing that Heretics does very well is the worldbuilding. The Great God Leto II has been dead for 1.5k years after taking a dip in the aquaduct, turning into sandtrout that have now become full sandworms. That means that poor Paul's son has a trapped consciousness inside these gigantic monstrosities after having lived for 5k years. (Since birth as a sandworm trapped consciousness.) Freaky cool. And of course religion has a bit part to play in these books as they always have.

What's most interesting is Miles Teg and the new Duncan Idaho. The similarities between Teg and the original Leto is pretty suggestive and the spice trance doubly so. His little transformation blew me away both times I read it. But Duncan Idaho? The obsessively resurrected clone of the original that has come back nearly countless times over 5k years? It staggers the imagination. Leto II really put him through the ringer, but even after the old god had died, the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Tlailax have turned him into the stage of their own conflict.

And it's these two that really own the stage in this side of the universe.... until the great spreading of humanity came back. :) Enter conflict. :) So good.

This is one of those series that take a lot of dedication and understanding to really enjoy. You really have to get deep into them, but they're very, very enjoyable, and this one is very complex and deep in a very similar way to the original classic.

Tons of politics and machinations, and if you love that, you'll love this. :) ( )
  bradleyhorner | Jun 1, 2020 |
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Most discipline is a hidden discipline, designed not to liberate but to limit. Do not ask Why ? Be cautious with How? Why? leads inexorably to paradox. How? traps you in a universe of cause and effect. Both deny the infinite.
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On Arrakis, now called Rakis, known to legend as Dune, ten times ten centuries have passed. The planet is becoming desert again. The Lost Ones are returning home from the far reaches of space. The great sandworms are dying, and the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Tleilax struggle to direct the future of Dune. The children of Dune's children awaken as from a dream, wielding the new power of heresy called love.

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Book five in Frank Herbert's magnificent Dune Chronicles--one of the most significant sagas in the history of literary science fiction.

Leto Atreides, the God Emperor of Dune, is dead. In the fifteen hundred years since his passing, the Empire has fallen into ruin. The great Scattering saw millions abandon the crumbling civilization and spread out beyond the reaches of known space. The planet Arrakis-now called Rakis-has reverted to its desert climate, and its great sandworms are dying.

Now, the Lost Ones are returning home in pursuit of power. And as factions vie for control over the remnants of the Empire, a girl named Sheeana rises to prominence in the wastelands of Rakis, sending religious fervor throughout the galaxy. For she possesses the abilities of the Fremen sandriders-fulfilling a prophecy foretold by the late God Emperor...
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