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Towering classic of dystopian satire, BRAVE NEW WORLD is a brilliant and terrifying vision of a soulless society--and of one man who discovers the human costs of mindless conformity. Hundreds of years in the future, the World Controllers have created an ideal civilization. Its members, shaped by genetic engineering and behavioral conditioning, are productive and content in roles they have been assigned at conception. Government-sanctioned drugs and recreational sex ensure that everyone is a happy, unquestioning consumer; messy emotions have been anesthetized and private attachments are considered obscene. Only Bernard Marx is discontented, developing an unnatural desire for solitude and a distaste for compulsory promiscuity. When he brings back a young man from one of the few remaining Savage Reservations, where the old unenlightened ways still continue, he unleashes a dramatic clash of cultures that will force him to consider whether freedom, dignity, and individuality are worth suffering for.… (more)
zasmine: For Orwell was inspired by it. And Orwell's 1984 is as much of a prize as it.
li33ieg: 1984, Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451: 3 essential titles that remind us of the need to keep our individual souls pure.
Ludi_Ling: Really, the one cannot be mentioned without the other. Actually, apart from the dystopian subject matter, they are very different stories, but serve as a great counterpoint to one another.
Anonymous user: It's essential to read Huxley's and Orwell's books together. Both present the ultimate version of the totalitarian state, but there the similarities end. While Orwell argues in favour of hate and fear, Huxley suggests that pleasure and drugs would be far more effective as controlling forces. Who was the more prescient prophet? That's what every reader should decide for him- or herself.… (more)
artturnerjr: If you read only one other dystopian SF story, make it this one (well, you should read 1984, too, but you knew that already, didn't you?).
leigonj: Haldane's ideas of eugenics and ectogenesis, which are laid out alongside others including world government and psychoactive drugs, strongly influenced Huxley's novel.
I first read this book as a tween/teen, with the reverence appropriate when reading an Important Classic. Thankfully, I don’t do this any more. I also have to confess that the vicious satire flew right over my teen head (not surprising, really).
The satire aspect was what I enjoyed the most this time. (What does this say about being an adult?😆) Henry Ford worship? Hilarious. Both polyamory and chaste monogamy get crucified, and so do religion and atheism. This world’s Solidarity Services with their Solidarity Hymns read like a pimped up version of a corporate team building exercise. (“Orgy-porgy!”) Naturally, we will go to a darker place with this by the end.
Otherwise, this book is a thought experiment that is trying to be a novel. Sometimes it succeeds (I liked the description of John’s childhood, for example). The dystopian society, with its castes, genetic predestination and conditioning, is quite horrifying. Everyone is happy, though (oh, the irony), they love their place as this or that cog in a society’s machine. They also get soma, the happy drug (I thought of our social media fixes).
I do have questions:
🤔 Giving your entire population access to a happy drug that apparently can kill you if you overdose enough is a bad, bad idea. Sure, the government controls the access, but has the author ever met a drug addict? How is this dystopia still functioning?
🤔 People are conditioned not to have close relationships with anyone, no intense emotions. Considering what we know about humans as social animals and emotional support that children need growing up, this should be a society of psychopaths. Ouch. I do like my dystopias to be more realistic, you know.
The “brave new world” has taken sexual freedom to extreme. Monogamy is a very very weird thing, nobody does this, “everyone belongs to everyone else.” Fair enough. But guess what, women are sex objects, they are ready to jump at any and every man, and they enjoy it, too, because conditioning. (Also, only the men seem to fly those helicopters the characters are always swishing about in. Women don’t have the skills, I suppose.) This dystopia is every macho’s wet dream, my friends! Please don’t ever use the word “pneumatic” in conversation with me. Those who have read the book will know what I mean.
As is usual in thought experiment books, the characters are not very interesting. They are vehicles that take the author’s ideas forward.
Since A Brave New World was written in the 1930’s, some things have aged badly. Apparently “Negro ovaries” produce way more clones than the Caucasian ones. Gaah. Someone is described as an “octoroon”. What is that? I consulted a dictionary – “a person who is one-eighth black by descent.” Ouch.
So, it was a thought-provoking reread, but there is no love lost between the book and me. I did get some cool quotes out of this:
“And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.”
“But I don’t want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.” “In fact,” said Mustapha Mond, “you are claiming the right to be unhappy.” ( )
I have wanted to re-read this book for some time as I read it during my teens and had forgotten a lot of the details. This cautionary tale of the perils of genetic engineering has dated a little but the story still packs a punch. I haven't devoured a book like this for a long time. Well worth a second look, or a first look if you haven't read it. ( )
I'm so happy that I decided to read this book, because it was simply incredible! I still can't believe it was written in 1930, because it is extremely modern; it describes the world that doesn't exist yet, but we may almost see it.
I really enjoyed the first part of the book, Bernard and Lenina and their almost love story were great - but I have to admit that I was not a huge fan of John the Savage. We saw London and the new society through his eyes, but John is like us, so it seemed a bit boring. I don't know what to think about the ending, I have a few theories what the author wanted to show us, but I'm not sure. I would be much happier if it ended on the discussion between John and Mustafa.
I loved this book, it really made me think. In my opinion everybody should read it.
Les utopies apparaissent bien plus réalisables qu'on ne le croyait autrefois. Et nous nous trouvons actuellement devant une question bien autrement angoissante : comment éviter leur réalisation définitive ?… Les utopies sont réalisables. La vie marche vers les utopies. Et peut-être un siècle nouveau commence-t-il, un siècle où les intellectuels et la classe cultivée rêveront aux moyens d'éviter les utopies et de retourner à une société non utopique moins 'parfaite' et plus libre. (—Nicholas Berdiaeff)
Dedication
First words
A squat grey building of only thirty-four stories.
Quotations
Unorthodoxy threatens more than the life of a mere individual; it strikes at Society itself.
..."What fun it would be," he thought, "if one didn't have to think about happiness!"
"I don't want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin ... I'm claiming the right to be unhappy". "Not to mention the right to grow old and ugly and impotent; the right to have syphilis and cancer; the right to have too little to eat; the right to be lousy; the right to live in constant apprehension of what may happen tomorrow; the right to catch typhoid; the right to be tortured by unspeakable pains of every kind." ... "I claim them all".
"All conditioning aims at that: making people like their unescapable social destiny."
"No civilisation without social stability. No social stability without individual stability."
Feeling lurks in that interval of time between desire and its consummation. Shorten that interval, break down all those unnecessary old barriers.
The social body persists although the component cells may change.
It was the sort of idea that might make the higher castes believe that the purpose of life was not the maintenance of well-being, but some intensification and refining of consciousness, some enlargement of knowledge.
The world’s stable now. People are happy; they get what they want, and they never want what they can’t get.
Science is dangerous. It must be chained and muffled.
People believe in God because they have been conditioned to believe.
But everyone belongs to everyone else.
Some men are almost rhinoceroses; they ron’t respond properly to conditioning. (Henry)
I’d rather be unhappy than have the false, lying happiness you were having here.
Every discovery in pure science is potentially subversive; even science must sometimes be treated as a possible enemy. Yes, even science.
But truth’s a menace, science is a public danger.
He would have liked to speak, but there were no words.
But I don’t want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness, I want sin...
I’m claiming the right to be unhappy. Not to mention the right to grow old and ugly and impotent; the right to have syphilis and cancer; the right to have too little to eat; the right to be lousy; the right to live in constant apprehension of what may happen to-morrow; the right to catch typhoid; the right to be tortured by unspeakable pains of every kind.
Towering classic of dystopian satire, BRAVE NEW WORLD is a brilliant and terrifying vision of a soulless society--and of one man who discovers the human costs of mindless conformity. Hundreds of years in the future, the World Controllers have created an ideal civilization. Its members, shaped by genetic engineering and behavioral conditioning, are productive and content in roles they have been assigned at conception. Government-sanctioned drugs and recreational sex ensure that everyone is a happy, unquestioning consumer; messy emotions have been anesthetized and private attachments are considered obscene. Only Bernard Marx is discontented, developing an unnatural desire for solitude and a distaste for compulsory promiscuity. When he brings back a young man from one of the few remaining Savage Reservations, where the old unenlightened ways still continue, he unleashes a dramatic clash of cultures that will force him to consider whether freedom, dignity, and individuality are worth suffering for.
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Huxley's bleak future prophesized, in Brave New World was a capitalist civilization, which had been reconstituted through scientific and psychological engineering, a world in which people are genetically designed to be passive and useful to the ruling class. Huxley opens the book by allowing the reader to eavesdrop on the tour of the Fertilizing Room of the Central London Hatchery and Conditioning center, where the high tech reproduction takes place. Bernard Marx (one of the characters in the story) seems alone, harboring an ill-defined longing to break free. Satirical and disturbing, Brave New World is set some 600 years into the future. Reproduction is controlled through genetic engineering, and people are bred into a rigid class system. As they mature, they are conditioned to be happy with the roles that society has created for them. Concepts such as family, freedom, love, and culture are considered grotesque.
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I first read this book as a tween/teen, with the reverence appropriate when reading an Important Classic. Thankfully, I don’t do this any more. I also have to confess that the vicious satire flew right over my teen head (not surprising, really).
The satire aspect was what I enjoyed the most this time. (What does this say about being an adult?😆) Henry Ford worship? Hilarious. Both polyamory and chaste monogamy get crucified, and so do religion and atheism. This world’s Solidarity Services with their Solidarity Hymns read like a pimped up version of a corporate team building exercise. (“Orgy-porgy!”) Naturally, we will go to a darker place with this by the end.
Otherwise, this book is a thought experiment that is trying to be a novel. Sometimes it succeeds (I liked the description of John’s childhood, for example). The dystopian society, with its castes, genetic predestination and conditioning, is quite horrifying. Everyone is happy, though (oh, the irony), they love their place as this or that cog in a society’s machine. They also get soma, the happy drug (I thought of our social media fixes).
I do have questions:
🤔 Giving your entire population access to a happy drug that apparently can kill you if you overdose enough is a bad, bad idea. Sure, the government controls the access, but has the author ever met a drug addict? How is this dystopia still functioning?
🤔 People are conditioned not to have close relationships with anyone, no intense emotions. Considering what we know about humans as social animals and emotional support that children need growing up, this should be a society of psychopaths. Ouch. I do like my dystopias to be more realistic, you know.
The “brave new world” has taken sexual freedom to extreme. Monogamy is a very very weird thing, nobody does this, “everyone belongs to everyone else.” Fair enough. But guess what, women are sex objects, they are ready to jump at any and every man, and they enjoy it, too, because conditioning. (Also, only the men seem to fly those helicopters the characters are always swishing about in. Women don’t have the skills, I suppose.) This dystopia is every macho’s wet dream, my friends! Please don’t ever use the word “pneumatic” in conversation with me. Those who have read the book will know what I mean.
As is usual in thought experiment books, the characters are not very interesting. They are vehicles that take the author’s ideas forward.
Since A Brave New World was written in the 1930’s, some things have aged badly. Apparently “Negro ovaries” produce way more clones than the Caucasian ones. Gaah. Someone is described as an “octoroon”. What is that? I consulted a dictionary – “a person who is one-eighth black by descent.” Ouch.
So, it was a thought-provoking reread, but there is no love lost between the book and me. I did get some cool quotes out of this:
“And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand.”
“But I don’t want comfort. I want God, I want poetry, I want real danger, I want freedom, I want goodness. I want sin.”
“In fact,” said Mustapha Mond, “you are claiming the right to be unhappy.” ( )