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The White War: Life and Death on the Italian Front, 1915-1919 (original 2008; edition 2007)

by Mary R. Thompson

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In May 1915, Italy declared war on the Habsburg Empire. Nearly 750,000 Italian troops were killed in savage, hopeless fighting on the stony hills north of Trieste and in the snows of the Dolomites. To maintain discipline, General Luigi Cadorna restored the Roman practice of decimation, executing random members of units that retreated or rebelled.With elegance and pathos, historian Mark Thompson relates the saga of the Italian front, the nationalist frenzy and political intrigues that preceded the conflict, and the towering personalities of the statesmen, generals, and writers drawn int… (more)
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Title:The White War: Life and Death on the Italian Front, 1915-1919
Authors:Mary R. Thompson
Info:Faber and Faber (2007), Paperback, 480 pages
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The White War: Life and Death on the Italian Front 1915-1919 by Mark Thompson (2008)

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This is a comprehensive look at the Italian fronts from WW I. In addition to covering the battles, the book also discusses the Italian politics around the war. Austrian politics and strategy are also discussed but only briefly. What was particularly useful in the book were the discussions of Italian literature, art, and journalism as impacted by the war.

Focusing on Italy actually helped me understand the wider picture of WW I. I had recently taken a long hiking trip along the Isonzo front so was familiar with many of the battle sites. Slovenia and Italy have created a memorial hike called the Walk of Peace that visits many of the WW I battle scenes.

The biggest weakness of the book is the lack of maps and the exclusive use of Italian place names. The Italians and Austrians had very different names for towns and mountains. Most of the area covered in the book is in present-day Slovenia so the Italian place names are not used in any of the current maps of the area. The maps included in the book are too few to make up for this deficiency. ( )
1 vote M_Clark | Dec 28, 2023 |
My great grandfather was a Seargent Major in the Italian Infantry in this war. He was captured by the Austrians and kept for almost 3 years. He escaped late in the war and passed down a journal with his retelling of his time in the war. A tremendous treasure. This book did a great job filling in the history and details of the political climate surrounding the war that I did not know. ( )
  VinceLaFratta | Sep 25, 2018 |
My great grandfather was a Seargent Major in the Italian Infantry in this war. He was captured by the Austrians and kept for almost 3 years. He escaped late in the war and passed down a journal with his retelling of his time in the war. A tremendous treasure. This book did a great job filling in the history and details of the political climate surrounding the war that I did not know. ( )
1 vote VinceLa | Sep 23, 2018 |
An excellent account of a forgotten front. Italy entered the war in hope of gaining territory, and the secret Treaty of London agreed with the French and the British, who had no great respect for Italy or the Italian military but hoped they could tie up sufficient Austro Hungarian troops to make life easier on the Western front, promised an unlikely grab bag of territories including Greek islands and the coast of Turkey. The best that can be said is, yes, they did tie up enough Austro Hungarian troops to make a significant contribution to the eventual collapse of the empire - but at what frightful cost.

All of the conflict took place either on the unforgiving Carso above Trieste, or in the Dolomites. I've been to some of the Dolomite war sites, and the task Italian troops were set by their commanders looks inhuman. The Austro Hungarians basically held all the high ground. The Italian troops were invited to charge uphill, across vast no man's land, in snow mist and fog, through barbed wire they had no means of cutting, whilst being machine gunned. It was a slaughter. And one that happened again and again and again.

Unlike the Western Front, where commanders did eventually realise that mass attacks in formation across no mans land were senseless, the Italian command had no such moment of illumination. Thompson identifies 6 specific occasions where the slaughter was so bad, and so pointless, that the Austrians ordered their soldiers to stop shooting and shouted to the Italians to go back to their trenches and stop throwing their lives away. This is unparalleled in the history of warfare.

The Italian army lost nearly 700,000 men killed in the war for a gain of almost nothing. The pride, incompetence and heartlessness on many fronts that led to this is exposed by Thompson but the majority of his barbs are reserved for the Commander of the Italian Armies, Luigi Cardona. Leaders of the massed armies on the Western front were careless with their men's lives as well, but very few would have made the suicidal loss of thousands of men per day such a point of pride. Combining a fatal measure of arrogance and imbecility, a great number of the lives of the dead were his responsibility. Especially when you consider that the brutal, Roman custom of decimation (killing one in every 10 of deserting or disgraced groups of soldiers) was in place, and that as well as being shot at from the front and sides by the Austrians, the Italian soldier was shot at from behind by the carabinieri and frequently bombed by his own artillery.

But Thompson also has huge contempt for the odious Gabrielle D'Annunzio (the description of his occupation of Fiume his very amusingly told) and for the Italian political class in general.

Its a sad story, beautifully told. Wherever possible Thompson brings individual soldiers, and their stories, into the limelight. Almost inevitably they were mistaken idealists. Almost inevitably , they died on the Carso. Of the illiterate multitudes who made up the majority of the army, we get a very different picture. Mostly, they had no idea what they were fighting for. Mostly they were from the South and the displaced Italian communities of Istria that were the casus belli for the war, meant nothing to them. Mostly they wanted to go home but died in silence in pointless mass slaughter

Did this lead to the mistrust in institutions that exists in Italy even today? That's hard to say. But it would have been very difficult for the average soldier not to draw the conclusion that their government cared only for its own interests and not for theirs. And as such, perhaps the state of Italy today is another long consequence of the war ( )
1 vote Opinionated | Jun 22, 2014 |
A much-needed history of the forgotten Italian front during the First World War, its brutal and bloody battles that rival the Somme and Ypres for senseless waste of lives, and its aftermath. Thompson writes well and covers the Italian-Austro-Hungarian conflict in detail, both on the field of battle and politically. He also includes translations of war poetry written by soldiers - brining a human touch to an inhuman conflict. ( )
  xuebi | May 30, 2014 |
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Mark Thompson has produced a history of the conduct of the First World War on the Italian front which is comprehensive, judicious and often beautifully written. It is a view primarily from an Italian rather than an Austrian point of view though as is perhaps obvious it is not particularly sympathetic to Italian war aims. It is even conceivable that some will find it anti-Italian...
 
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In May 1915, Italy declared war on the Habsburg Empire. Nearly 750,000 Italian troops were killed in savage, hopeless fighting on the stony hills north of Trieste and in the snows of the Dolomites. To maintain discipline, General Luigi Cadorna restored the Roman practice of decimation, executing random members of units that retreated or rebelled.With elegance and pathos, historian Mark Thompson relates the saga of the Italian front, the nationalist frenzy and political intrigues that preceded the conflict, and the towering personalities of the statesmen, generals, and writers drawn int

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In May 1915, Italy declared war on the Hapsburg Empire, hoping to seize its 'lost' territories of Trieste and Tyrol. The result was one of the most hopeless and senseless modern wars - and one that inspired great cruelty and destruction. Nearly three quarters of a million Italians - and half as many Austro-Hungarian troops - were killed. Most of the deaths occurred on the bare grey hills north of Trieste, and in the snows of the Dolomite Alps. Outsiders who witnessed these battles were awestruck by the difficulty of attacking on such terrain. General Luigi Cadorna, most ruthless of all the Great War commanders, restored the Roman practice of 'decimation', executing random members of units that retreated or rebelled. Italy sank into chaos and, eventually, fascism. Its liberal traditions did not recover for a quarter of a century - some would say they have never recovered.

Mark Thompson relates this nearly incredible saga with great skill and pathos. Much more than a history of terrible violence, this book tells the whole story of the war: the nationalistic frenzy that led up to it, the decisions that shaped it, the poetry it inspired, its haunting landscapes, political intrigues and its dire consequences. Thompson also evokes the personalities of its statesmen and generals, and the experience of its ordinary soldiers - among them some of modern italy's greatest writers.

A work of epic scale, The White War does full justice to one of the most remarkable untold stories of the First World War.
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