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The Forever War (1974)

by Joe Haldeman

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Series: Forever War (1)

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8,889238805 (4.02)2 / 343
When it was first published over 20 years ago, Joe Haldeman's novel won the Hugo and Nebula awards and was chosen Best Novel in several countries. Today, it is hailed a classic of science fiction that foreshadowed many of the futuristic themes of the 1990s: bionics, sensory manipulation, and time distortion. William Mandella is a soldier in Earth's elite brigade. As the war against the Taurans sends him from galaxy to galaxy, he learns to use protective body shells and sophisticated weapons. He adapts to the cultures and terrains of distant outposts. But with each month in space, years are passing on Earth. Where will he call home when (and if) the Forever War ends? Narrator George Wilson's performance conveys all the imaginative technology and human drama of The Forever War. Set against a backdrop of vivid battle scenes, this absorbing work asks provocative questions about the very nature of war.… (more)
  1. 214
    Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein (infiniteletters, goodiegoodie)
  2. 80
    Old Man's War by John Scalzi (JulesJones)
    JulesJones: Two books which examine in different ways what happens to the recruits in an interstellar war who by the very nature of their service can never go back to their home culture.
  3. 10
    Armor by John Steakley (amysisson, RASinfo)
    RASinfo: Perfect read for the story and ideas of the same theme.
  4. 10
    The Ethos Effect by L. E. Modesitt, Jr. (thejazzmonger)
    thejazzmonger: Good characters and a story with intelligence and action. It makes you think, like every Haldeman book does.
  5. 11
    A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr. (sturlington)
  6. 22
    Forever Peace by Joe Haldeman (sturlington)
    sturlington: Forever Peace is a thematic sequel to The Forever War.
  7. 01
    The Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough (LamontCranston)
    LamontCranston: The Forever War was inspired by Haldemans experiences in Vietnam, Scarborough writes about her experiences in Vietnam directly.
  8. 14
    Dauntless by Jack Campbell (amysisson)
    amysisson: First in a series of thoughtful military SF with great FTL tactical details.
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 Science Fiction Fans: The Forever War? Ugh.113 unread / 113Tobbi73, August 2016
 Book talk: The Forever War by Joe Haldeman10 unread / 10jldarden, March 2013

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A very good novel that seems to have lasted the test of time. It really well considered the impact of time dilation on returning soldiers and used that to explore possible social evolution. Plus the impact of leap frogging in military technology and tactics was interesting. But… I wish there had been a bit more character development. Still, i thoroughly enjoyed it. ( )
  Neil_Luvs_Books | Feb 27, 2023 |
This book was a bit disappointing. I thought it was going to be like a futuristic catch 22 but it mostly seemed like a waste of time. I liked some of the exposition, the character interactions and the main character. But, the action scenes were terribly boring, the war itself bored the hell out of me. It seems counterintuitve but the parts I most enjoyed were the trips between conflicts and the dialogue. Lastly, the ending didnt really jive with me, it felt cheap and cliche. Overall a rather forgetable book. ( )
  RetrospectiveEmperor | Feb 24, 2023 |
I really wanted to enjoy The Forever War more, I really did. Joe Haldeman explores brilliant concepts, from the meaning of war and being soldier, the impact of time dilation on the development of human colonization and society, to being, in essence, a foreigner among your own people. I really love these concepts and Haldeman does a good job in putting forth hypothetical outcomes, but in actually making them narratively interesting, he falls flat. The man character and narrator, William Mandella, comes across as incredibly bland and one dimensional. Despite the whole book being written from his perspective, very little of his personality ever comes forth. Perhaps that's the side effect of constantly jumping forward in time and having to constantly adjust your concepts of society-appropriate behavior, or perhaps its just because the narrator serves more as vehicle to tell the story of a millennia spanning war. Either way, I was frustrated by being unable to care about his thoughts or well being, and inability to better explore the new cultures he was thrust into.

What the book does do well is demonstrating just how confusing, destructive, and pointless war can be. The war is very plainly an allegory for the Vietnam War, with Haldeman being a Purple Heart veteran of that war himself. The war is begun after a mysterious and hazy incident involving an enemy we don't understand, and the war seems to have very little purpose, with the goal posts shifting constantly. The soldiers who sacrifice their bodies and spirits to fight the war often return to a country/planet that is very different from what they left behind, and find that the glory/honor/respect/status promised to them is no longer true.

The Forever War is a book whose premise is brilliant and the concepts explored deserve so, but is let down by an unoriginal narrator. It still holds up as a foundation work for much of the military space opera sub-genre of sci-fi that has produced so much solid work. ( )
  James_Knupp | Jan 20, 2023 |
Great and easy read, Haldeman does a great job translating concepts of relativity and physics to the reader, making the story easy to follow. ( )
  wuh19 | Jan 1, 2023 |
Three stars for the number of authors this book has influenced. ( )
  readersmith | Dec 24, 2022 |
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I got to re-reading it last night (for the first time in nearly 20 years) and couldn't put it down.
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Author nameRoleType of authorWork?Status
Joe Haldemanprimary authorall editionscalculated
Adams, MarcCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Craig, IanCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Dalton, BrendonCover designersecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Hamilton, Peter F.Introductionsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Moore, ChrisCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Reß-Bohusch, BirgitTranslatorsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Roberts, AdamIntroductionsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Scalzi, JohnForewordsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Targete, Jean PierreCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Tikulin, TomislavCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Tinkleman, MurrayCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Vallejo, DorianCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Vrana, MichelCover designersecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
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For Ben and, always, for Gay
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"Tonight we're going to show you eight silent ways to kill a man."
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Relativity propped it up, at least gave it the illusion of being there...the way all reality becomes illusory and observer-oriented when you study general relativity. Or Buddhism. Or get drafted.
I feel asleep and dreamed that I was a machine, mimicking the functions of life, creaking and clanking my clumsy way through a world, people too polite to say anything but giggling behind my back, and the little man who sat inside my head pulling the levers and clutches and watching the dials, he was hopelessly mad and storing up hurts for the day--
"One cannot make command decisions simply by assessing the tactical situation and going ahead with whatever course of action will do the most harm to the enemy with a minimum of death and damage to your own men and materiel. Modern warfare has become very complex, especially during the last century. Wars are won not by a simple series of battles won, but by a complex interrelationship among military victory, economic pressures, logistic maneuvering, access to the enemy's information, political postures--dozens, literally dozens of factors."
The most important fact about the war to most people was that if it ended suddenly, Earth's economy would collapse.
Heaven was a lovely, unspoiled Earth-like world; what Earth might have been if men had treated her with compassion instead of lust.
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When it was first published over 20 years ago, Joe Haldeman's novel won the Hugo and Nebula awards and was chosen Best Novel in several countries. Today, it is hailed a classic of science fiction that foreshadowed many of the futuristic themes of the 1990s: bionics, sensory manipulation, and time distortion. William Mandella is a soldier in Earth's elite brigade. As the war against the Taurans sends him from galaxy to galaxy, he learns to use protective body shells and sophisticated weapons. He adapts to the cultures and terrains of distant outposts. But with each month in space, years are passing on Earth. Where will he call home when (and if) the Forever War ends? Narrator George Wilson's performance conveys all the imaginative technology and human drama of The Forever War. Set against a backdrop of vivid battle scenes, this absorbing work asks provocative questions about the very nature of war.

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Interstellar war is hell

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