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Sign up for LibraryThing to find out whether you'll like this book. No current Talk conversations about this book. “I think that there should have been some nice vumpires,’ said my sister, wistfully. ‘Nice, handsome, misunderstood vumpires.’ ‘There were not,’ said my father.” (Fortunately the Milk, Neil Gaimon, 2013) I thought that was funny. Anyway…. I think you start to kid yourself if you only read ‘the good stuff’, you know. I like Stephs, to some extent—enough, you know. You always feel like it’s familiar, like you know what you’re going to get, with Bella, Edward, and Jacob, you know. It’s America saying, “We’re not smart; we’re not happy; and we don’t love ourselves”—you know. And that is indeed the reality of the majority; you’d need a new collective unconscious for the USA (and the world—the collective unconscious is ultimately trans-national and trans-racial, in fact in the end is not limited by species, either), for something like this not to be popular. And maybe it’s ‘good luck’ so to speak, in that I find it to be be pretty truthful—I buy these characters doing these things, having these feelings and doing these actions. And also, like in most of the famous long-Victorian novels, it ~can~ surprise you, out of the sheer necessity of length and detail. And yet. And yet. (chuckles darkly) Somehow, it will never surprise you. You can learn all there is to know about vampiric teenagers in a month, and, after a hundred years—they will NEVER surprise you; not really. (laughs) But Tolkien was a snob, you know. (anxious voice) Sixty million people dying in the biggest war ever is putting a serious crimp in my plan to study ancient runes…. Why didn’t Hitler and Hirohito ask Me about starting this mess?…. Now, if they had had a dragon, I would have said yes. Dragons are romantic—in a masc-y way, right. (anguished) But airplanes are not! Airplanes are metal—and steel!…. (freaking out about this) Oh yes. Sue me. Sue me for mental health damages, right. Parody, lese majesty, non-conforming ~~in the wrong way~~…. 😛 …. And it’s so funny how Charlie and Bella are like an old married couple that don’t sleep together anymore, right. …. It’s getting almost responsible, compared to the second book or especially the first. Bella has to make all sorts of grown up decisions! …. (Bella’s mom) I tentatively formed this theory near the beginning of the series, but that does help to firm up the idea that Stephs is intentionally writing “bad” fiction about weak people—that she’s not just a null who doesn’t know the difference herself.… If you read my reviews, (I know you don’t), you can probs guess I have a robot academic insult half-formed in my brain now, so I’ll skip that, keep it light and unpredictable, right. …. It’s like an indie pop song. It’s like a poppy alt song, where the singer mumbles intentionally things no one can hear about politics or antisocial behavior, and the room dances to sick beats and chords ripped out of Bach’s playbook, electrified. …. I don’t want to say that stupidity doesn’t lead to unhappiness, because it does; however, the stupid person, the C- student (in some aspect of their life: for Bella it wouldn’t be English) is like the heretic of today; people talk about that person like they’re a criminal, in turn another mask for the heretic of today. And like the heretic goes to hell to suffer forever the unkindness of his god, even if he’s kind to his mother, the stupid person has to made example of, even if there’s something appealing about them, like their looks/fashion, or some other aspect of personal charm. People don’t want to humanize the heretic of today, you know. People don’t want to acknowledge that even someone kind to children and bookish is also something other than “rational” for part of the day, some days more than others, you know. …. Steph Meyer’s non-nationalist American Indian mythology is pretty good; most white people are Way! too racist to acknowledge how vicious our paleface ancestors were to the Indigenous of this continent, you know—and it’s nice to work around that a little bit without just surrendering and black box-ing the red man, as is our habit. And a lot of mythology is pretty personal. Maybe not as personal as Twilight, but more personal than scientific history: ‘the story of the U-boat’, etc. …. I get that girls generally don’t want to be nurses instead of wives, not if they’re going to be sexual—Bella isn’t my image of an alluring female personality, so I get it—but it is kinda funny how undisposed I am to play male pop romance hero, you know. (smiles) They’re just…. Bad, you know. …. It’s cute how they’re so bad, yet so old-fashioned. It’s different…. yet familiar. …. But maybe believing in marriage is worse than believing in vampires and such, lol. …. It’s funny how Victoria could almost be Taylor Swift, you know…. I know—it’s wrong to even talk about it. That’s the fault of adventure and adventure-lite stories: you can’t talk about villains without sounding murderous. 😸 But she’s not Serena van der Woodsen, you know. 🪵 …. It would be easy to underestimate the importance of Jacob to the story. (Jake is a Neverland Pirate, the heir of Peter Pan, lol….) …. “You are safe inside your mind.” …. It’s ok, although it’ll take me awhile to want to read the fourth-&-final, you know. …. But yeah: as much as things haven’t changed, things have changed a little bit, you know. I at least wouldn’t want to go back to the past. There will always be beautiful monsters, without trying to live in some departed world, of the high noon of empire or whatever.
Ask any high school girl: boys can be a pain. Fall for one who seems appealing, and he turns out to be a monster. One moment he acts like you don’t exist, the next, he drives you crazy by playing it cool — while his brothers circle you with hungry eyes. If you take a break to cut the tension, and hang out “just friends”-style with a younger guy who’s puppy-dogging you, what happens? Wouldn’t you know, he turns out to be a nightmare too. Is contained inHas the adaptationAwardsDistinctionsNotable Lists
Bella must choose between her friendship with Jacob, a werewolf, and her relationship with Edward, a vampire, but when Seattle is ravaged by a mysterious string of killings, the three of them need to decide whether their personal lives are more important than the well-being of an entire city. No library descriptions found.
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Die Charaktere nehmen in diesem Buch ebenfalls ihre schlechteste Form an.
Wir haben Edward, der Bella manipuliert und bevormunded und ihr überhaupt nicht zuhört, sie davon abhält ihre Freunde zu besuchen und sie damit quasi eines Menschenrechts beraubt. Ich klinge damit genauso dramatisch wie die Leute in dem Buch, aber er schickt wirklich seine Schwester, um für Bella den Gefängniswärter zu spielen.
Alice lässt sich mit einem Auto dazu überreden Bella zu beaufsichtigen, was keinen Sinn ergibt, weil warum sollte ihr Edward ein Auto besorgen können und sie sich nicht, wenn sich beide in derselben finanziellen Situation befinden. Entweder sie können es sich beide leisten oder keiner von beiden, alles andere ist unlogisch.
Dann haben wird Jacob, der Bella küsst, obwohl sie dem nie zugestimmt hat und ihr dann auch noch konstant einredet, dass sie auf ihn steht, obwohl sie immer sagt, dass sie das nicht tut. Mir egal, ob er am Ende recht hatte oder nicht, im Buch kam es nie auch nur ansatzweise rüber, dass sie ihn mag, bis zu den letzten fünf Kapiteln oder so. Es war entweder schlecht ausgearbeitet von der Autorin oder Bella wurde von Jacob so lange gegaslightet, bis sie es selbst geglaubt hat.
Dann haben wir noch Charlie, der einfach nur anstrengend ist. Schon klar, er will das beste für seine Tochter, aber wenn Jacob Bella ohne ihre Erlaubnis küsst, würde ich als liebender Vater nicht Jacob gratulieren, was soll das. Und später rudert er zurück und sagt: Oh ich will doch, dass meine Tochter sich verteidigen kann, wenn sie jemand ohne ihre Erlaubnis küsst. Wow. Vielleicht solltest du lieber dem Typen sagen, dass er niemanden ohne dessen Erlaubnis anfassen soll, als dem Mädchen still und heimlich zu sagen, dass du auf ihrer Seiter stehst. Außerdem ist Jacob doch wohl niemals eine bessere Option für seine Tochter. Edward hat sie zwar verlassen und wie ein Häufchen elend zurück gelassen, aber man muss nicht unbedingt einen anderen Jungen bevorzugen, man kann auch einfach sagen, dass sie vielleicht niemanden daten sollte bei der Auswahl. Stattdessen schickt er Bella ständig in Jacobs Richtung, obwohl er weiß, dass sie kein Interesse an ihm hat, weil sie das die ganze Zeit so sagt. Aber keiner in diesem Buch will das so wahrhaben wie ich und man glaubt ihr einfach nicht, dass sie weiß, was sie will.
Außerdem, wenn sie wirklich die ganze Zeit auf Jacob stand und sich dessen nicht bewusst war, dann zweifle ich stark daran, dass sie auf ewig mit Edward zusammen bleiben wird, weil das haben die anderen nämlich auch gesagt und wenn sie einmal besser wussten was Bella will, dann warum nicht auch ein zweites Mal, oder? ( )