HomeGroupsTalkMoreZeitgeist
Search Site
This site uses cookies to deliver our services, improve performance, for analytics, and (if not signed in) for advertising. By using LibraryThing you acknowledge that you have read and understand our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Your use of the site and services is subject to these policies and terms.

Results from Google Books

Click on a thumbnail to go to Google Books.

Godel's Proof (Routledge Classics) by Ernest…
Loading...

Godel's Proof (Routledge Classics) (original 2001; edition 2005)

by Ernest Nagel

MembersReviewsPopularityAverage ratingMentions
1,4261413,137 (3.93)5
In 1931 Kurt Gödel published his fundamental paper, "On Formally Undecidable Propositions of Principia Mathematica and Related Systems." This revolutionary paper challenged certain basic assumptions underlying much research in mathematics and logic. Gödel received public recognition of his work in 1951 when he was awarded the first Albert Einstein Award for achievement in the natural sciences--perhaps the highest award of its kind in the United States. The award committee described his work in mathematical logic as "one of the greatest contributions to the sciences in recent times." However, few mathematicians of the time were equipped to understand the young scholar's complex proof. Ernest Nagel and James Newman provide a readable and accessible explanation to both scholars and non-specialists of the main ideas and broad implications of Gödel's discovery. It offers every educated person with a taste for logic and philosophy the chance to understand a previously difficult and inaccessible subject. Marking the 50th anniversary of the original publication of Gödel's Proof, New York University Press is proud to publish this special anniversary edition of one of its bestselling and most frequently translated books. With a new introduction by Douglas R. Hofstadter, this book will appeal students, scholars, and professionals in the fields of mathematics, computer science, logic and philosophy, and science.… (more)
Member:ajitoke
Title:Godel's Proof (Routledge Classics)
Authors:Ernest Nagel
Info:Routledge (2005), Paperback, 112 pages
Collections:Your library
Rating:
Tags:Science, Mathematics

Work Information

Gödel’s Proof by Ernest Nagel (2001)

  1. 10
    Gödel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter (Cecrow)
  2. 00
    Incompleteness: The Proof and Paradox of Kurt Gödel by Rebecca Goldstein (jeroenvandorp)
  3. 00
    The Annotated Gödel: A Reader's Guide to his Classic Paper on Logic and Incompleteness by Hal Prince (Kushagra_Sachan)
    Kushagra_Sachan: If one, upon having read Nagel and Newman's exposition now wishes to make an actual, deep dive into Gödel's original paper, Hal's book is probably the best place to do that.
  4. 03
    Life of Pi by Yann Martel (misericordia)
    misericordia: If you can understand Godel's proof "Life of PI" will be like a warm breeze on a shining ocean cruise.
Loading...

Sign up for LibraryThing to find out whether you'll like this book.

No current Talk conversations about this book.

» See also 5 mentions

English (13)  Spanish (1)  All languages (14)
Showing 1-5 of 13 (next | show all)
A fun and thought provoking read indeed, would recommend it to anyone who
* loves paradoxical statements
* would like to know more about mathematical logic ( )
  kladimos | Sep 23, 2021 |
This book will melt your mind. ( )
  cpalaka | Jul 14, 2021 |
What Gödel's Theorem really says is this: In a sufficiently rich FORMAL SYSTEM, which is strong enough to express/define arithmetic in it, there will always be correctly built sentences which will not be provable from the axioms. That, of course, means their contradictions will not be provable, either. So, in a word, the sentences, even though correctly built, will be INDEPENDENT OF the set of axioms. They are neither false nor true in the system. They are INDEPENDENT (cannot stress this enough). We want axioms to be independent of each other, for instance. That's because if an axiom is dependent on the other axioms, it can then be safely removed from the set and it'll be deduced as a theorem. The theory is THE SAME without it. Now, the continuum hypothesis, for instance, is INDEPENDENT of the Zermelo-Fraenkel axioms of the set theory (this was proved by Cohen). Therefore, it's OK to have two different set theories and they will be on an equal footing: the one with the hypothesis attached and the one with its contradiction. There'll be no contradictions in either of the theories precisely because the hypothesis is INDEPENDENT of the other axioms. Another example of such an unprovable Gödelian sentence is the 5. axiom of geometry about the parallel lines. Because of its INDEPENDENCE of the other axioms, we have 3 types of geometry: hyperbolic, parabolic and Euclidean. And this is the real core of The Gödel Incompleteness Theorem. By the way... What's even more puzzling and interesting is the fact that the physical world is not Euclidean on a large scale, as Einstein demonstrated in his Theory of Relativity. At least partially thanks to the works of Gödel we know that there are other geometries/worlds/mathematics possible and they would be consistent.

Without a clear and explicit reference to the concept of a formal system all that is said regarding Gödel's theorems is highly inaccurate, if not altogether wrong. For instance, if we say that Gödel's statement is true, after saying that Gödel's Theorem states that it can't be proved either true or false. Without adding "formally", that doesn't really make much sense. We'd only be only talking about axioms, which are only a part of a formal system, and totally neglecting talking about rules of inference, which are what the theorems really deal with.

By independent I mean 'logically independent', that is only a consequence of Gödel's theorem in first order languages, whose logic is complete. In second order arithmetic, the Peano axioms entail all arithmetical truths (they characterize up to isomorphism the naturals), so that no arithmetical sentence is logically independent of such axioms. It occurs, however, that second order logic is incomplete and there is no way to add to the axioms a set of inference rules able to recursively derive from the axioms all of their logical consequences. This is why Gödel's theorems holds in higher order languages too. In fact, this is how the incompleteness of higher order logic follows from Gödel's theorems.

What prompt me to re-read this so-called seminal book? I needed something to revive my memory because of Goldstein's book on Gödel lefting me wanting for more...I bet you were expecting Hofstadter’s book, right? Nah...Both Nagel’s & Newman’s along with Hofstadter’s are failed attempts at “modernising” what can’t be modernised from a mathematical point of view.

Read at your own peril. ( )
  antao | Apr 30, 2019 |
A good followup to GEB, I am happy with the order I chose. I didn't realize how engaging GEB really was, with its intermittant stories, when I saw a drier version. But, drier is not really meant as an insult, I thought this book went more in depth and tried to formally explain a lot more. To me, after understanding GEB, I got a sense of amazement on the incompleteness proof and a feeling for the philosophical outcroppings. With this book, I feel like I was more ready to actually read the seminal paper and a understanding of the paper itself ( )
1 vote Lorem | Jun 4, 2015 |
For a book that was supposed to simplify Godel's Proof it was exceptionally complex. No real thesis either; basically, the first 75% of the book is just setting up preliminaries and doesn't even deal directly with Godel's work. Reading this book gave me no further insights on Godel's challenging concepts. I recommend instead Godel, Escher, Bach, which is longer and only devotes a chapter's worth of study on the Proof, but does so in far simpler terms (the author of G.E.B. does the intro to this book.) ( )
  palaverofbirds | Mar 29, 2013 |
Showing 1-5 of 13 (next | show all)
no reviews | add a review

» Add other authors (7 possible)

Author nameRoleType of authorWork?Status
Ernest Nagelprimary authorall editionscalculated
Newman, James R.Authormain authorall editionsconfirmed
Newman, James Roymain authorall editionsconfirmed
Hofstadter, Douglas R.Forewordsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
You must log in to edit Common Knowledge data.
For more help see the Common Knowledge help page.
Canonical title
Original title
Alternative titles
Original publication date
People/Characters
Important places
Important events
Related movies
Epigraph
Dedication
to
Bertrand Russell
First words
In 1931 there appeared in a German scientific periodal a relatively short paper with the forbidding title “Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme” (“On formally undecideable Propositions of Pricipia Mathematica and Related Systems”).
Quotations
Last words
(Click to show. Warning: May contain spoilers.)
Disambiguation notice
Publisher's editors
Blurbers
Original language
Canonical DDC/MDS
Canonical LCC

References to this work on external resources.

Wikipedia in English

None

In 1931 Kurt Gödel published his fundamental paper, "On Formally Undecidable Propositions of Principia Mathematica and Related Systems." This revolutionary paper challenged certain basic assumptions underlying much research in mathematics and logic. Gödel received public recognition of his work in 1951 when he was awarded the first Albert Einstein Award for achievement in the natural sciences--perhaps the highest award of its kind in the United States. The award committee described his work in mathematical logic as "one of the greatest contributions to the sciences in recent times." However, few mathematicians of the time were equipped to understand the young scholar's complex proof. Ernest Nagel and James Newman provide a readable and accessible explanation to both scholars and non-specialists of the main ideas and broad implications of Gödel's discovery. It offers every educated person with a taste for logic and philosophy the chance to understand a previously difficult and inaccessible subject. Marking the 50th anniversary of the original publication of Gödel's Proof, New York University Press is proud to publish this special anniversary edition of one of its bestselling and most frequently translated books. With a new introduction by Douglas R. Hofstadter, this book will appeal students, scholars, and professionals in the fields of mathematics, computer science, logic and philosophy, and science.

No library descriptions found.

Book description
Haiku summary

Current Discussions

None

Popular covers

Quick Links

Rating

Average: (3.93)
0.5
1
1.5 1
2 6
2.5 1
3 32
3.5 7
4 68
4.5 11
5 35

Is this you?

Become a LibraryThing Author.

 

About | Contact | Privacy/Terms | Help/FAQs | Blog | Store | APIs | TinyCat | Legacy Libraries | Early Reviewers | Common Knowledge | 206,973,963 books! | Top bar: Always visible