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Debatable Space

by Philip Palmer

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  mcolpitts | Aug 3, 2009 |
Reading Debatable Space is akin to being shoved into a washing machine while tripping your brains out - it is such a wild ride that I still find myself amazed that I survived it! Read the rest of my review here: http://davebrendon.wordpress.com/2008... ( )
  Dave-Brendon | May 6, 2009 |
Took me a hell of a lot of time to finish this. About 3-4 days, actually, but admittedly I wasn't reading all that consistently. Anyway, midway through this one I was curious about what other people had to say about it, so I looked it up on Amazon and read a lot of reviews. Turns out people didn't like this one so much.

But maybe that effectively lowered my standards enough that I actually thought this was pretty well written. It was original, at least. I did get really annoyed with Lena’s mind diaries from time to time, but I suspect that was the effect he wanted to have on his readers. I mean, the point of it was that Lena was an annoying bitch, right? Some of the scientific concepts are a little hard to understand, and some are very vague altogether because maybe the author himself doesn't know what he means. The beacons, for example--the "science" is entirely glossed over. But, regardless of that, a lot of the characters are endearing enough to make up for anything else that might seem implausible.

The alien species introduced were really interesting. The bugs were properly horrifying, and the flame beasts are kind of awe-inspiring, and makes you really understand how small humans are in the larger context of things. The sparklers weren't really elaborated on, and I suspect that will change in the future, but what I understand as it is is that flame beasts are the prevailing sentient living form. And the "living" part might be questionable. Does that mean that flame beasts prevail over bugs and the like too? Or are they alpha and omega, one made from pure energy and the other... The opposite? The speculation is driving me crazy. Maybe it's that this is my first official venture into sci-fi lit, barring some crappier ones I read earlier that make absolutely no sense (Diana Palmer's "The Morcai Battalion"). I don't know why some Amazon reviewers gave it 1 or 2 stars, because it was certainly an interesting and entertaining read. I guess ultimately, it really does depend on initial expectation.

So anyway. His next novel is called Kelos, but about sea-dwelling humanoid creatures called the dolphs. What will it be like now that the beacons are down? I'm fairly certain there will be a more in-depth description of these sparklers too, and maybe introductions of new alien life forms? The way I see it, now that Lena and Flanagan are travelling into uncharted territory, they will certainly discover new wonders. I wonder if characters from this book will be making brief appearances too.

Oh, some additional details I just put together: if the flame beasts are sentient and everywhere at once, then what is their historic event of consuming their only sun really about? And I trust we won't be seeing the last of the bugs either. I can't say I’ll eagerly await the next one, but this first novel has certainly piqued my curiosity.

Edit: something else. If no one knows the composition of the bugs, then how can anyone possibly make a robotic replica? And if the bugs were only kept confined by the multiple layers of beacons, and now the beacons have been blown up all over the universe... They're not confined anymore, are they? And what about all those people who "guard" the bugs? It seems like somewhere along the way someone forgot about the area of debatable space... ( )
  gladiolii | Oct 18, 2008 |
The cover says this writer works in Radio, tv, etc., and boy does it show. This novel is riddled with stuff that could presumably go in scripts, huge bold worlds, and even text-only splash pages that would appear to be completely pointless outside of comics.

Obviously deliberately employed, here, but really annoying when there are so many examples.

Apart from that, on something that mentions a space pirate kidnap gone wrong there is a lot of extremely tedious flashbackery.

This book doesn't hold up well next to that paragon of subtlety and story, the John Cleve Spaceways series.

Definitely unfinishable.

http://notfreesf.blogspot.com/2008/09... ( )
  bluetyson | Sep 22, 2008 |
Flanagan is the main character for half the book while the flash backs of his captive, Lena, comprise the other half. Debatable space is a sweeping story about the evolution of humans from an earth bound society to a galaxy spanning one. Along the way some of the oldest societal ills come back to prominence: slavery, despotism, piracy. Flanagan has a plan to right these wrongs, but at every turn his plan seems to be thwarted. As each twist unfolds this story drags you deeper. Debatable Space is an enjoyable book about a long heist set in a world spanning galaxy. ( )
  jprutter | Feb 24, 2008 |
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I lose myself in the long soaring arc of the plunging bucking near-light-speed stellar-wind-battered flight, my eyes drinking in the spectral glows and searing sunlight while my sensors calibrate velocity, acceleration, heat and cosmic radiation, I surf from visuals to instruments and back and forth until I feel the bucking of stellar wind, no, that's repetitious, delete the words "stellar" and "wind", it's now "the bucking of pulsing photons" on my fins and sail and feel the burning of the hot yellow dwarf sun on my cheeks.
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Flanagan (who is, for want of a better word, a pirate) has a plan. It seems relatively simple: kidnap Lena, the Cheo's daughter, demand a vast ransom for her safe return, sit back and wait.

Only the Cheo, despotic ruler of the known universe, isn't playing ball. Flanagan and his crew have seen this before, of course, but since they've learned a few tricks from the bad old days and since they know something about Lena that should make the plan foolproof, the Cheo's defiance is a major setback. It is a situation that calls for extreme measures.

Luckily, Flanagan has considerable experience in this area . . .

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