RidgewayGirl Attempts to Embrace Chaos in 2024 - Chapter Two

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RidgewayGirl Attempts to Embrace Chaos in 2024 - Chapter Two

1RidgewayGirl
Feb 27, 1:33 pm

My year of reading randomly began with great hopes, but is foundering on the rocks of the Tournament of Books. While this year, I decided not to read all of them, I omitted only a few, and not the one I should have, but with only a few books left to read for that, including one I'm tempted to skip, I'll soon be reading based only on whim. Really, I mean it this time.




2RidgewayGirl
Edited: Yesterday, 11:11 am

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3RidgewayGirl
Edited: Mar 31, 12:55 pm

First Quarter Reading

January

1. Dayswork by Chris Bachelder and Jennifer Habel
2. The Final Curtain by Keigo Higashino, translated from the Japanese by Giles Murray
3. Nine Simple Patterns for Complicated Women by Mary Rechner
4. Blackouts by Justin Torres
5. Vera Wong's Unsolicited Advice for Murderers by Jesse Q. Sutanto
6. Cold People by Tom Rob Smith
7. Go as a River by Shelley Read
8. Bright Young Women by Jessica Knoll
9. Dearborn by Ghassan Zeineddine
10. Fruit of the Dead by Rachel Lyon
11. One of the Good Guys by Araminta Hall
12. A Swim in a Pond in the Rain by George Saunders
13. My Men by Victoria Kielland, translated from the Norwegian by Damion Searls

February

1. The Lost Journals of Sacajewea by Debra Magpie Earling
2. The Shamshine Blind by Paz Pardo
3. Hello Beautiful by Ann Napolitano
4. Monstrilio by Gerardo Sámano Córdova
5. The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store by James McBride
6. The American Daughters by Maurice Carlos Ruffin
7. Absolution by Alice McDermott
8. All the Little Bird-Hearts by Viktoria Lloyd-Barlow

March

1. Chain Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
2. Half an Inch of Water by Percival Everett
3. The Hunter by Tana French
4. American Mermaid by Julia Langbein
5. Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange
6. S. by Doug Dorst
7. So Late in the Day by Claire Keegan
8. From Lukov With Love by Mariana Zapata
9. In the Land of Dreamy Dreams by Ellen Gilchrist
10. The Wind Knows My Name by Isabelle Allende, translated from the Spanish by Frances Riddle

5RidgewayGirl
Edited: May 13, 1:04 pm

The Lists

Books by Author's Nationality

Britain
Araminta Hall (One of the Good Guys)
Scarlett Thomas (The Sleepwalkers)

Canada
Waubgeshig Rice (The Moon of the Turning Leaves)

Chile
Isabelle Allende (The Wind Knows My Name)

Indonesia
Budi Darma (People from Bloomington)

Ireland
Tana French (The Hunter)
Cormac James (Trondheim)
Claire Keegan (So Late in the Day)

Japan
Keigo Higashino (The Final Curtain)

Mexico
Gerardo Sámano Córdova (Monstrilio)

Norway
Victoria Kielland (My Men)

USA
Elise Blackwell (The Lower Quarter)
Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah (Chain Gang All-Stars)
Isabelle Allende (The Wind Knows My Name)
Chris Bachelder (Dayswork)
S.A. Cosby (All the Sinners Bleed)
Doug Dorst (S.)
Debra Magpie Earling (The Lost Journals of Sacajewea)
Percival Everett (Half an Inch of Water)
Ellen Gilchrist (In the Land of Dreamy Dreams)
Jennifer Habel (Dayswork)
Stephen Graham Jones (The Angel of Indian Lake)
Rachel Khong (Real Americans)
Jessica Knoll (Bright Young Women)
Julia Langbein (American Mermaid)
J. Robert Lennon (Hard Girls)
Rachel Lyon (Fruit of the Dead)
James McBride (The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store)
Alice McDermott (Absolution)
Ann Napolitano (Hello Beautiful)
Tommy Orange (Wandering Stars)
Paz Pardo (The Shamshine Blind)
Andrew Porter (The Disappeared: Stories)
Adam Rapp (Wolf at the Table)
Shelley Read (Go as a River)
Mary Rechner (Nine Simple Patterns for Complicated Women)
Nathaniel Rich (King Zeno)
Maurice Carlos Ruffin (The American Daughters)
George Saunders (A Swim in a Pond in the Rain)
Tom Rob Smith (Cold People)
Jesse Q. Sutanto (Vera Wong's Unsolicited Advice for Murderers)
Justin Torres (Blackouts)
Mariana Zapata (From Lukov With Love)
Ghassan Zeineddine (Dearborn)

6RidgewayGirl
Edited: May 13, 1:07 pm

Books by Year of Publication

1980
People from Bloomington by Budi Darma

1981
In the Land of Dreamy Dreams by Ellen Gilchrist

2010
Nine Simple Patterns for Complicated Women by Mary Rechner

2013
The Final Curtain by Keigo Higashino
S. by Doug Dorst

2015
Half an Inch of Water by Percival Everett
The Lower Quarter by Elise Blackwell

2018
From Lukov With Love by Mariana Zapata
King Zeno by Nathaniel Rich

2021
My Men by Victoria Kielland
A Swim in a Pond in the Rain by George Saunders

2023
Absolution by Alice McDermott
All the Little Bird-Hearts by Viktoria Lloyd-Barlow
All the Sinners Bleed by S.A. Cosby
American Mermaid by Julia Langbein
Blackouts by Justin Torres
Bright Young Women by Jessica Knoll
Chain Gang All-Stars by Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah
Cold People by Tom Rob Smith
Dayswork by Chris Bachelder and Jennifer Habel
Dearborn by Ghassan Zeineddine
The Disappeared: Stories by Andrew Porter
Go as a River by Shelley Read
The Heaven and Earth Grocery Store by James McBride
Hello Beautiful by Ann Napolitano
The Lost Journals of Sacajewea by Debra Magpie Earling
Monstrilio by Gerardo Sámano Córdova
Moon of the Turning Leaves by Waubgeshig Rice
The Shamshine Blind by Paz Pardo
So Late in the Day by Claire Keegan
Van Gogh and the Avant-Garde edited by Bregje Gerritse
Vera Wong's Unsolicited Advice for Murderers by Jesse Q. Sutanto
The Wind Knows My Name by Isabelle Allende

2024
The American Daughters by Maurice Carlos Ruffin
The Angel of Indian Lake by Stephen Graham Jones
Fruit of the Dead by Rachel Lyon
Hard Girls by J. Robert Lennon
The Hunter by Tana French
One of the Good Guys by Araminta Hall
Real Americans by Rachel Khong
The Sleepwalkers by Scarlett Thomas
Trondheim by Cormac James
Wandering Stars by Tommy Orange
Wolf at the Table by Adam Rapp

7RidgewayGirl
Edited: Feb 27, 1:41 pm

Welcome to the shiny, new thread. Let's clutter it up with book talk.





8BLBera
Feb 27, 3:05 pm

Happy new thread, Kay. You have started the year with some great reading.

>7 RidgewayGirl: Love this!

9LolaWalser
Feb 27, 3:36 pm

>1 RidgewayGirl:

lol

>2 RidgewayGirl:

Explosion in a paint factory! Most enticing covers.

>7 RidgewayGirl:

This I don't get, presumably because I haven't read the book. But is it actually a cartoon BY Atwood?

10SassyLassy
Feb 27, 3:47 pm

>7 RidgewayGirl: Love the cartoon - it seems just like something she would say.

Happy new thread and keep up the acquisitions!

11RidgewayGirl
Feb 27, 4:57 pm

>8 BLBera: It has been a great reading year so far. There are so many great books to read.

>9 LolaWalser: Yes, the cartoon is by Margaret Atwood. And The Robber Bride is my favorite of the novels of hers that I've read. Here's a quote from it:

Maybe that's what West found so irresistible about Zenia, Tony used to think: that she was raw, that she was raw sex, whereas Tony herself was only the cooked variety. Parboiled to get the dangerous wildness out, the strong fresh-blood flavors. Zenia was gin at midnight, Tony was eggs for breakfast, and in eggcups at that. It's not the category Tony would have preferred.

>10 SassyLassy: Ha, no fear -- books come into my hands like they were iron filings and I was a horseshoe magnet.

12labfs39
Feb 27, 5:23 pm

I was so excited last night that my book club decided to read Heaven and Earth Grocery Store for our May meeting.

13LolaWalser
Feb 27, 5:40 pm

>11 RidgewayGirl:

Oh that's hilarious how she draws herself! And I think I get the fun now. Thanks. :)

14kac522
Edited: Feb 27, 5:52 pm

>11 RidgewayGirl: I read The Robber Bride 30 years ago, and immediately upon finishing it, started back at the beginning & read it all over again--never did that before or since. It's definitely due for a re-read; I consider it my favorite, too, although I have not read them all, especially more recent ones. The one I've enjoyed most from her recent works is Hag-Seed, which is a clever modern re-telling of Shakespeare's The Tempest.

15cindydavid4
Feb 27, 8:44 pm

loved Hag Seed,really was a master class on how to present the play to a group of people who are unfamiliar with the play. Was really moved by several moments

16RidgewayGirl
Feb 27, 10:15 pm

>12 labfs39: Excellent. It's up for my book club in August.

>13 LolaWalser: You're welcome, and now I want to reread The Robber Bride.

>14 kac522: I can see doing that. It's such a great novel. I haven't read The Hag Seed yet.

>15 cindydavid4: I will definitely look for a copy.

17dchaikin
Feb 28, 9:31 am

Nice new thread. And Atwood’s self portrait is really charming. I enjoyed your comments on The American Daughters.

18BLBera
Feb 28, 9:32 pm

I loved The Hag Seed. I haven't read The Robber Bride, so maybe that will be my next Atwood.

19dianeham
Feb 28, 9:57 pm

>18 BLBera: I tried The Hag Seed ages ago and couldn’t get into it. I’ll have to try again.

20RidgewayGirl
Feb 28, 10:27 pm

>17 dchaikin: Thanks, Dan. I do wonder if Atwood was illustrating something that actually happened.

>18 BLBera: Beth, it's wonderful. I'm due for a reread.

>19 dianeham: I'm interested in reading it now. I have a copy of The Penelopiad I'd like to read first, though.

21dianeham
Feb 28, 11:20 pm

>20 RidgewayGirl: I haven’t read that either.

22RidgewayGirl
Feb 29, 6:41 pm

I've successfully clogged Darryl's (Kidzdoc) thread with people's fantastic suggestions for dining in New Orleans, as well as their fond memories of that city. As I'm going to NOLA in mid-April, I thought I'd ask here for suggestions for the best books set in this city, novels that really make the city an important part of the book.

I have already read Maurice Carlos Ruffin's books, as well as Jamie Attenberg's All This Could be Yours. What do you suggest?

23LolaWalser
Edited: Feb 29, 10:00 pm

>22 RidgewayGirl:

Walker Percy's The Moviegoer and the New Orleans segment of John Rechy's City of Night. The Percy is one of my favourite novels ever. Which may seem somewhat strange, given that he was, in no particular order, a misogynistic white male Catholic. But he was a tortured soul, and I saw New Orleans, especially in the beginning, in the same nightmarish palette.

ETA: corrected touchstone

24labfs39
Feb 29, 9:00 pm

>22 RidgewayGirl: Although it's not a novel, I thought Five Days at Memorial was a powerful book about Hurricane Katrina and its impact on the city.

25cindydavid4
Feb 29, 9:03 pm

>22 RidgewayGirl: first one that comes to mind is in the midnight garden of good and evilIve never been to NOLA and this book was so desciptive that I could see it in my mind. Loved his love for the city, and the characters were marvelous. Someday maybe ill get there

26RidgewayGirl
Feb 29, 9:33 pm

>23 LolaWalser: I loved The Moviegoer when I read it, but that was probably twenty years ago. I still have my copy and I'll pull it out for a reread.

>24 labfs39: I read that and it was gripping, if hard to read.

>25 cindydavid4: Cindy, that one is about Savannah, probably the prettiest city in the US.

27cindydavid4
Feb 29, 9:58 pm

>26 RidgewayGirl: ack!!!!! Um I knew that....and I have been there and loved it. Ill just remove that suggestions, shall I?

28cindydavid4
Edited: Feb 29, 10:01 pm

The Great Deluge was very well done

29LolaWalser
Feb 29, 10:03 pm

>26 RidgewayGirl:

Oh cool--but this set me thinking, something from an African-American perspective would be a necessary counterweight. But as far as Louisiana-born people are concerned, somehow these voices are still... not apparent? Stifled?

Because that's a very different story to those playing out in the mansions on St. Charles avenue.

30ELiz_M
Edited: Mar 1, 7:43 am

Interview with a Vampire? Or the memoir The Yellow House (put on my wishlist by Darryl.)

Here are some more ideas:
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/new-orleans

ETA: there's more genre novels to shift through, but this might have even more ideas:
https://www.goodreads.com/places/931-new-orleans-louisiana?page=1

31labfs39
Mar 1, 10:25 am

>30 ELiz_M: My book club read The Yellow House last summer, but I missed that month.

32markon
Edited: Mar 1, 11:18 am

I haven't read these, but what about these two born and bred African American NOLA writers?

Maurice Carlos Ruffin


Margaret Wilkerson Sexton now lives in California. Her novel A kind of freedom is set in New Orleans.

I'm also curious now about Pinkie Gordon Lane who was the first African American poet laureate, though she was born and raised in Philadelphia.

33kidzdoc
Edited: Mar 1, 11:50 am

>22 RidgewayGirl: Hi, Kay! It will come as no surprise that I have quite a few NOLA books I would recommend highly, thanks to a search of my LT library:

Fiction:
The Axeman's Jazz by Ray Celestin: This is a murder mystery about the real life Axeman of New Orleans, who terrorized the city from 1918-1919. Murder mysteries aren't my thing, but I loved this book.
The Ones Who Don't Say They Love You: Stories by Maurice Carlos Ruffin: A recent collection of stories about the Black community of the city.
Zeitoun by Dave Eggers: A fictionalized account of an Iraqi immigrant to NOLA who lived through Katrina; Zeitoun was later accused of attempted murder of his ex-wife but was found innocent, an episode that occurred well after this book was published)

Nonfiction:
The American Plague: The Untold Story of Yellow Fever, the Epidemic that Shaped Our History by Molly Caldwell Crosby: This book describes the impact that the devastating yellow fever epidemic of 1878 had on the future growth and development of both Memphis and New Orleans. I would put it on the top of your list if you plan to visit any of the well known cemeteries of New Orleans, which are a major tourist attraction, as many of them have untold hundreds of tombstones of New Orleanians who died that year.
Do You Know What It Means to Miss New Orleans? (essays written in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina)
Five Days at Memorial: Life and Death in a Storm-Ravaged Hospital by Sheri Fink: This is easily one of the most powerful and harrowing books I've ever read, in which doctors, including Dr. Fink, and patients were trapped and isolated in Memorial Medical Center by floodwaters from Katrina.
New Orleans, Mon Amour: Twenty Years of Writings from the City by Andrei Codrescu: A very interesting and often humorous collection of essays from the famed Romanian author and NPR commentator, who lived in NOLA from 1985 to 2005 and wrote articles for Gambit, a weekly alternative city newspaper. If you want to learn about the characters that make New Orleans what it is this is one of the books I would recommend most highly.
Where We Know: New Orleans As Home by David Rutledge: An excellent collection of post-Katrina essays.
The Yellow House: A Memoir by Sarah M. Broom: An outstanding description of New Orleans East, its development as an eastern suburb of the city and how its demographics changed with time, and what happened to it in the aftermath of Katrina. One of my aunts and her two sons moved from Midtown

Poetry:
Bellocq's Ophelia: Poems by Natasha Trethewey: These are fictionalized accounts about the Storyville prostitutes famously photographed by EJ Bellocq in the early 20th century.

34RidgewayGirl
Mar 1, 1:17 pm

Ha, I knew you guys would have suggestions!

>28 cindydavid4: Cindy, that looks interesting, but I'm not sure I want to arrive in NOLA, looking at it through the lens of its worst disaster.

>29 LolaWalser: Lola, I recently read The American Daughters, which is set before and during the Civil War and entirely set in the Black community. Maurice Carlos Ruffin loves the city and his books are all excellent, especially his short story collection. A start, at least.

>30 ELiz_M: Thanks! I'll take a close look at those lists.

>31 labfs39: I have a copy of The Yellow House and I plan on reading it before the trip -- it's a hardcover, so I don't want to bring it with me.

>32 markon: Ardene, I have a copy of A Kind of Freedom on my tbr, where it's been languishing for a few years now. I didn't know it was set in NOLA. Very satisfying to be able to just pull that one off of its shelf.

>33 kidzdoc: Thanks, Darryl! Funny about The Axeman's Jazz -- I have a copy of Nathaniel Rich's King Zeno, which is centered on that same criminal. I'm planning to bring it and The Moviegoer (Lola's suggestion) with me on the trip. And, of course, you're already familiar with Maurice Carlos Ruffin, an author I like quite a bit. And I may try to find the Codrescu book while I'm there.

Very disappointing to realize I have over a month to wait.

35LolaWalser
Mar 1, 2:17 pm

>32 markon:, >33 kidzdoc:, >34 RidgewayGirl:

Thanks for the Ruffin and Trethewey's Bellocq mentions!

I'll always feel guilty for not doing due diligence on these topics when I was living there, and letting shyness and whatnot inhibit me. I met Lolis Eric Elie, a friend's friend, when he was a journalist at Times-Picayune (he was scriptwriter on Treme). I ran into a Croatian girl getting a PhD in English lit at the University of New Orleans, who would later join the faculty there and marry an African-American colleague of hers--the obvious people whose brains to pick on so many topics, but I didn't.

36RidgewayGirl
Mar 1, 4:44 pm



In Alice McDermott's novel, Absolution, Tricia is a young wife who accompanied her husband to Saigon. It's 1963, and the expat life of garden parties, evening drinks and children attending the international school while living in lavish homes cared for by local help is still normal. Tricia, by nature a good girl who grew up working class Catholic in Yonkers, is ready to do her part to help her husband's career. She's naturally shy, but keenly observant and she falls in easily with Charlene, a woman with goals and plans and the forceful nature needed to carry them out. She's quickly co-opted into Charlene's work, at first bringing toys to hospitalized children (and cigarettes to their parents), then into a plan that involves trips out to a leper colony. But the war is becoming something that can't be ignored and Tricia is forced into looking at how the very best of intentions can do harm.

The novel takes the form of letters written between Tricia and Charlene's daughter, in which Tricia explains how people thought and acted in that time and place, through the lens of what we now know. It's a balancing act, to tell the story of a woman in 1963, through her eyes then and now and McDermott is able to make that work. Charlene's actions, and therefore many of Tricia's were what we would look at now with a critical eye, as does the present day Tricia, looking closely at how what they were doing was just feel-good work for a large part, but also work that sometimes did real good and sometimes real harm. McDermott's characters seem fairly simple on the surface, but there's a lot of complexity under the surface. I will be thinking about the characters and the choices they made for some time. I recommend going into this book knowing as little as possible about it ahead of time.

37dchaikin
Edited: Mar 2, 1:53 pm

A Confederacy of Dunces, if you can stomach it. I got about halfway through. Very New Orleans.

Absolution sounds good. Great review

38RidgewayGirl
Mar 2, 2:26 pm

>37 dchaikin: I have a history with that book. Back in college, the worst housemate one could imagine gave me a copy of that for Christmas. It has colored my view of it.

39kjuliff
Mar 2, 2:38 pm

>38 RidgewayGirl: How odd. I too was given a copy of a book by I person I was not fond of and have been unable to read it!

40cindydavid4
Mar 2, 5:45 pm

>37 dchaikin: Oh I wished I loved that.Ive tried many times and just dont get it. So many loved it tho

41LolaWalser
Mar 2, 10:15 pm

A Confederacy of Dunces

Oddly enough, I read it in Europe way before I knew I'd be moving to New Orleans (and the book itself didn't engender any such desire). But once I was in N.O., that was the first book I bought--more for the symbolism than out of sympathy for it. I think I'm due for a reread. Toole's New Orleans was already largely gone by 1992 but Ignatius, his attitude, seemed alive among a certain small segment of mostly young white men of intellectual bent, forever embittered that a place of such unique culture had no use for the scholar. (I shared this partly, being shackled to a bench in a windowless lab while outside whole NOVELS full of wonder were unrolling in the streets.)

But it's a very strange angle to grasp and certainly not what someone looking to celebrate the city would expect from a book commonly brought up when New Orleans gets mentioned.

The slogan that best captures New Orleans to a local is "It's not the heat, it's the stupidity". But hey, at least it's not Florida.

42dianeham
Mar 3, 12:26 am

I’d go for the music.

43rocketjk
Mar 3, 9:34 am

I, too, really enjoyed Walker Percy's The Moviegoer. Not only was it set in New Orleans, but more specifically in Gentilly, the New Orleans working class neighborhood I was living in when I read the book. It's a long time ago that I read it, so I don't recall details about why I liked the book so much.

I love Confederacy of Dunces. Again, I read it while living in New Orleans. The backstory is that Toole committed suicide after writing the book. I think it's believed that he did that out of despair that he couldn't find a publisher for the book, but I'm not for sure about that. What I do know is that his mother took up the cause after his death and brought the book around to anyone who would see her. She was finally able to see the book in print after showing it to . . . you guessed it . . . Walker Percy, who convinced the LSU publishing house to publish the book even thought they were almost entirely a textbook house. At any rate, all that aside, Confederacy of Dunces was, in my view, a dead-on (though outrageous) and hilarious satire of white working class New Orleans culture. As Lola says, much of that cohort is gone, washed away by Katrina and pushed out by the subsequent gentrification. But I think that the consciousness of the influence that that group of New Orleanians had on the city and its self-image still resonates there, especially among the people who've been living in the city for more than, say 15 years. Parts of the book are objectionable and some of the book's charms require a certain sense of humor to truly appreciate. You could say the same for New Orleans, though.

44rocketjk
Mar 3, 9:51 am

Sorry for the double-post, but I just wanted to add re: Confederacy of Dunces that you are unlikely to see the side of New Orleans that the book portrays, or what's left of it, during a relatively short first visit. Though I haven't read The Yellow House, everything I've read about it suggests to me that it provides a much better contemporary look at conditions in the city now. But again, those aren't the aspects you'll see as a tourist. It all depends on how much information you feel you want about the cultural/economic foundations that the fascinating parts of the city that you will see are sitting upon.

It occurs to me that a pretty good non-fiction book that also offers good insight into the city is In the Shadow of Statues: A White Southerner Confronts History by Mitch Landrieu. . . . Well, never mind. I just looked at the book's review page and see you've not only read it but reviewed it!

Wynton Marsalis has described how important Pops Foster: the Autobiography of a New Orleans Jazzman is for an understanding of what life was like for the early New Orleans musicians. I own it but haven't read it yet.

45kidzdoc
Edited: Mar 3, 11:40 am

I loved A Confederacy of Dunces the first time I read it, which was probably in the early 1980s, shortly after it was published, and either when I was living there (I left in December 1981) or very shortly afterward. It was a local sensation in the year or two after it was published by LSU* Press — I did check, and Wikipedia confirmed my recollection on that — and the local print media, including the Times-Picayune and Gambit wrote numerous stories about Toole, his suicide, and his mother's dogged efforts to get someone to publish it. (Jerry, your recollection is either absolutely correct, or we're both completely wrong!).

I decided to read it a second time in 2010, and I didn't like it at all; I gave it 2 stars then, where it would have earned at least 4 stars 30 years earlier. I found the humor to be stable and over the top, and the difference may be best explained by my maturation as a reader than anything else. I wouldn't dissuade anyone from reading it, but it wouldn't be on my list of top literary recommendations, especially since I believe that generation of New Orleanians has dwindled significantly, which is somewhat unfortunate.

*Louisiana State University

>43 rocketjk: Were you living in New Orleans when the cover of the afternoon newspaper was lime green? I think it was the States-Item, but I'm not completely sure (my relatives would have said, in the classic NOLA dialect, "I'm not for true.")

46RidgewayGirl
Mar 3, 12:43 pm

Very much enjoying this book conversation. We should discuss books set outside of the usual places (NY, London, etc...) more often.

Darryl, we've also made a reservation at Cochon, as well as planning a late lunch of muffelatas at Napoleon House, to be followed by cocktails and, most likely, a nap. I am not good at day drinking.

47rocketjk
Edited: Mar 3, 12:49 pm

>45 kidzdoc: "his mother's dogged efforts to get someone to publish it."

I forgot to mention that I actually met his mother during this period. This was during my time working for the New Orleans NPR affiliate, and I was working the engineer board when she came to the studio to be interviewed for one of our public affairs shows.

"I decided to read it a second time in 2010, and I didn't like it at all; I gave it 2 stars then, where it would have earned at least 4 stars 30 years earlier."

Right. I was going to say that I don't know how I'd respond to the book now if I were to read it again. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if my reaction was the same as yours, Darryl, tempered somewhat by a sense of nostalgia for the old days and my own 20s. It's certainly harder to connect with a satire when not only are you unfamiliar with the thing being satirized but, also, that thing is mostly gone.

"Were you living in New Orleans when the cover of the afternoon newspaper was lime green? I think it was the States-Item, but I'm not completely sure (my relatives would have said, in the classic NOLA dialect, "I'm not for true.")"

Yes, although since I am red/green colorblind, I had to take other people's word for the actual color. I only knew "for true" that there was some dark shading going on.

I love those old New Orleans expressions, although even when I was there they were beginning to fade away. A lot of them had to do, I think, with the city's French antecedents. For example, I've always guessed that the expression "to make groceries" (used in place of "going grocery shopping") came from the French verb "faire," which translates, more or less, to "to make or do." I don't know if anyone refers to sidewalks as "banquettes" anymore. I had some friends from old-time New Orleans families who would use the greeting, "Hey, there. Whatchu know good?" That might have Cajun roots. At any rate, while I love the expression, I've quit trying to use it outside of New Orleans, because people assume you're saying that something or other is "no good." Or when you invite somebody somewhere and they answer, "I'll pass." At first I thought the person was declining the invitation, until I released that among a certain group of New Orleanians it meant, "Sure, I'll pass by when I can."

48RidgewayGirl
Edited: Mar 4, 1:51 pm



People who perform on instinct do not keep vast libraries of information in their heads. They do not concentrate in company as if taking an important exam. They do not need to shut down frequently and turn off all the lights to find relief. And even then, find that peace does not come.

Sunday is living in a small town in the Lake District of England, divorced and with a 16 year old daughter she loves deeply, but is also somewhat in awe of. Sunday is easily overwhelmed, needs her foods to be white, or at least pale, and has trouble navigating relationships, despite frequently turning to a book of etiquette. It's the 1980s, so while in a later time she'd be labeled autistic, here she's mostly thought of as peculiar or difficult. Her refuge is her work, in the greenhouse of her ex-husband's farm. Then a new couple moves into the house next door and Vita sweeps Sunday into the heady whirlwind of her erratic life. It's not a friendship that should work, but Vita is so self-centered and her husband so eager to keep everyone having a good time that it all works and before long, both Sunday and her daughter are centering their lives around this couple. Which works so well until it doesn't.

All the Little Bird-Hearts by Viktoria Lloyd-Barlow is gorgeously written book told from the point of view of a woman for whom the world is a frightening and hostile place, but who nevertheless keeps trying to find a way to belong. She is both keenly observant, as a survival tactic, and utterly unaware of much of what is going on around her. There's a sense of rising dread in this book, something the reader can see coming, but not clearly, because we're seeing the world through Sunday's eyes, and how the author managed to do that is astonishing from a debut novelist.

49labfs39
Mar 3, 6:35 pm

>48 RidgewayGirl: Great review, Kay.

50kjuliff
Mar 3, 6:56 pm

>48 RidgewayGirl: Thanks for this review. I am interested now in reading this book that I had on hold for weeks, but eventually replaced with one that would fall due before the year was out. I’m now encouraged to try again now that the 2023 Booker is old news.

51RidgewayGirl
Mar 4, 1:53 pm

>49 labfs39: Thanks, Lisa. Dan (dchaikin) recommended this book in his thread and he's a reliable guide to which Booker long/shortlist books are worthwhile.

>50 kjuliff: I'm familiar with the dance of library holds. Hopefully, the line is shorter now.

52labfs39
Mar 4, 4:11 pm

>50 kjuliff: That he is. I wouldn't have considered this book without his and your reviews.

53dchaikin
Mar 4, 9:23 pm

>48 RidgewayGirl: yay! Love your review and so glad you enjoyed this. I have such fond thoughts about it still. Poor Sunday

>51 RidgewayGirl: >52 labfs39: thanks both. Appreciate that. 2023 was a really good Booker year.

>45 kidzdoc: >43 rocketjk: so Wikipedia explains Toole’s suicide was maybe not about his book. Certainly he was crushed because he got so close to publishing it and the editor was pretty cruel about, demanding (awful) changes and calling it a book about nothing. But also he became seriously paranoid in weird ways for several years. Maybe stress. But likely he had more serious mental health issues independent of any depression or anything else he could normally control. Perhaps schizophrenia.

54rv1988
Mar 4, 11:25 pm

>48 RidgewayGirl: Great review, and this sounds like such an interesting book.

55labfs39
Mar 5, 7:18 am

>53 dchaikin: Not that depression is something one can control.

56RidgewayGirl
Edited: Mar 5, 1:54 pm

>53 dchaikin: Hoping you'll work your way through the 2024 list when it arrives, so I can rely on your reviews again. No pressure!

>54 rv1988: Rasdhar, it's written in an unique voice that really got to me.

>55 labfs39: I just keep thinking about his mom, doggedly pressuring people to publish her dead son's book.

In book news, my library hold of Tana French's newest book, The Hunter is up and I feel bad for the books I'm currently reading, as they will gather dust for the foreseeable future.

57JoeB1934
Mar 5, 1:58 pm

>56 RidgewayGirl: Unfortunately my library hold time for The Hunter is 14 weeks. So a long wait for me.

58dchaikin
Edited: Mar 5, 2:22 pm

>56 RidgewayGirl: i hope to!

>53 dchaikin: yes, good point.

59RidgewayGirl
Mar 5, 2:47 pm

>57 JoeB1934: I managed to be first in line because I put a hold on it the minute I heard about it, far more than 14 weeks ago.

60RidgewayGirl
Mar 5, 6:45 pm



I thought of how the world can be anything and how sad it is that it's this.

Chain Gang All-Stars is not the kind of book I pick up. From being set in an alternative version of the world to the violence of the deathmatches that form the backbone of the novel, I'm not the intended reader here. But Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah wrote one of the most brilliant and inventive short story collections that I have read, one that if you haven't read, you should go right now and read it. So what do you do when an author you think is uniquely talented writes a novel you don't like the look of? If you're me, you end up reading it anyway, pushed by its inclusion in the Tournament of Books.

In this version of the world, which is very close to what actually exists, prison inmates can opt into fighting a series of deathmatches and if they survive for three years, they will be freed. While our real prisons are often shockingly terrible places, in this world there's the addition of a taser-like weapon known as an influencer, which causes indescribable pain, and prison labor is even harsher and more deadly. Here, we are introduced to Staxxx and Thurwar, two women who have managed to survive on the circuit, Thurwar just weeks from being the first woman to win her freedom. As we accompany the two women through their season, we also dip into the lives of fans, activists protesting the "sport," and other contestants.

I found this book both hard to read and difficult to set aside. Adjei-Brenyah's writing isn't showy or beautiful, but it forces the reader into being interested, into caring for people who have done bad things, but who nonetheless do not deserve what is inflicted on them. This is an obvious indictment of our current prison industry, complete with footnotes directly relating the novel to real events and facts. While the story he's telling is shocking, it's also far too believable.

61kjuliff
Mar 5, 7:20 pm

>60 RidgewayGirl: Good review - so good I think I’ll give this one a miss…

62labfs39
Mar 5, 7:45 pm

>60 RidgewayGirl: Uff da. This might be one I skip despite how good you make it seem. Interesting that he made his protagonists women.

63RidgewayGirl
Mar 6, 5:50 pm

>61 kjuliff: I would normally also have put this book on the shelf of "very nice for people who aren't me," but I'm glad I did read it. I very much understand deciding not to!

>62 labfs39: I think it makes for characters who are easier for us to relate to, maybe? One of the characters is there because she killed the man raping her, which certainly makes the inhumanity of life sentences a lot starker.

64kidzdoc
Mar 6, 9:02 pm

>46 RidgewayGirl: We should discuss books set outside of the usual places (NY, London, etc...) more often.

Agreed!

I am not good at day drinking.

Clearly the same could be said of the keynote speaker of the Pediatric Hospital Medicine conference I attended in New Orleans several years ago. The hotel it was set in was on Canal Street, the main entryway into the French Quarter, and he admittedly had at least one too many Sazeracs, so much so that he was having a hard time standing upright! We were originally going to attend his talk, which promised to be more entertaining than usual, but our concierge came over to us and told us that he had scored a last-minute reservation to Restaurant R'evolution from a group that had cancelled shortly before then, so we hightailed it there instead.

>57 JoeB1934: I forgot to mention that I actually met his mother during this period.

Nice!

It's certainly harder to connect with a satire when not only are you unfamiliar with the thing being satirized but, also, that thing is mostly gone.

You're right, Jerry. That New Orleans is gone, probably for good, and that is a tragedy.

I love those old New Orleans expressions, although even when I was there they were beginning to fade away. A lot of them had to do, I think, with the city's French antecedents.

I agree, and I would say the same for the influence of Caribbeans on New Orleans culture, especially Jamaican patwah; "for true" is the same as "fi true."

The influence of so many cultures is what makes New Orleans such a special place. It's easily the most unique city in the United States, especially if you're willing to get outside of the typical tourist culture and immerse yourself in the city's rich history. Tennessee Williams famously said, "America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland." I would say that this is an exaggeration, but only a modest one.

>48 RidgewayGirl: Great review of All the Little Bird-Hearts, Kay. That sounds right up my alley.

>60 RidgewayGirl: I also enjoyed your review of Chain-Gang All-Stars. I borrowed it from my local library system, but at a time that I wasn't reading much of anything, so I doubt that I got more than a few pages into it. If at first you don't succeed...

65rocketjk
Mar 6, 10:26 pm

>64 kidzdoc: "the influence of Caribbeans on New Orleans culture, especially Jamaican patwah; "

Oh, absolutely. Also in New Orleans music, of course. Plus everything else you've said here about the influence of so many cultures on New Orleans is of course right on. Or, as they'd say in New Orleans, "Yeah, you right!"

66Jim53
Mar 6, 10:47 pm

>56 RidgewayGirl: I just got my notice to pick up The Hunter too. As you said, the other books I've got ready to go are gonna sit on the bench for a while.

67RidgewayGirl
Mar 7, 12:47 pm

>64 kidzdoc: Ha! Poor guy. After a few drinks, all I'm good for is a nap. I'm glad you're getting your reading groove back.

>66 Jim53: It starts very well!

68arubabookwoman
Mar 7, 3:20 pm

I've read many of the NO recommended books and agree with most of them, especially The Yellow House and the Margaret Sexton Wilkerson. But one I'd really recommend, not mentioned above is Nine Lives by Dan Baum. To me it conveyed more than most other books what makes New Orleans unique. The author does this by portraying the lives of 9 New Orleanians. These range from a Mardis Gras Indian to a former Rex, King of carnival, from the coroner, to a streetcar repairman, from the trans owner of a bar to the bandmaster of one of NO's famous high school marching bands, as well as others. Again this book to me conveyed NO's unique character through its people.

69RidgewayGirl
Mar 7, 6:35 pm

>68 arubabookwoman: Thanks, I hadn't heard of that one. Adding it to my list now.

70kidzdoc
Mar 8, 6:56 am

>68 arubabookwoman: I'm glad that you liked Nine Lives, Deborah. I own a copy of it, but I haven't read it yet.

71arubabookwoman
Edited: Mar 8, 10:05 am

I thought of one more not mentioned above--In the Land of Dreamy Dreams by Ellen Gilchrist. This is one of her earlier books, maybe even her first. It's a book of short stories focusing on "Uptown" New Orleanians. These are the elites from the old New Orleans families, those living in the mansions of the Garden District or Uptown New Orleans. At the time it was published (late 70's/early 80's?), there was a lot of speculation as to which of the fictional characters represented which NO society person. The book was rather good though.

ETA: And a good fairly current guide to NO restaurants/food is Eat Dat New Orleans by Michael Murphy, subtitled, "A Guide to the Unique Food Culture of the Crescent City."

72RidgewayGirl
Mar 8, 6:41 pm

>71 arubabookwoman: Deborah, I own that book! Will pull it out immediately!

73arubabookwoman
Mar 8, 9:49 pm

>72 RidgewayGirl: Kay, after I recommended this book, I pulled it off my shelf, to read a few of the stories to see how they held up, since I had no recall of any of the stories. I read the first one and it was extremely dark, with a violent and disturbing ending. I'm not sure how you would feel about that, but I was a bit upset by it. Nothing like I thought I remembered. Just a friendly warning.

74dchaikin
Mar 9, 1:40 pm

>60 RidgewayGirl: such a great review. Definitely has a sense of this book. The title is discouraging, but your review encouraging.

>68 arubabookwoman: >71 arubabookwoman: >73 arubabookwoman: noting all this

75arubabookwoman
Mar 10, 12:02 pm

And another heads up about In the Land of Dreamy Dreams--only the first few stories are set in NO. Which goes to show I shouldn't recommend books I don't remember well (or at all). But...it did make a big ruckus in NO when it was first released (Gilcrist was living there at the time or shortly before). And the stories are very "Southern," and for the most part I liked this reread.

76RidgewayGirl
Mar 11, 5:04 pm

>73 arubabookwoman: Thanks for the information, Deborah. I'll see what I think after the first few stories.

>74 dchaikin: Yeah, the title and description made me think, "this is not for me." I was surprised to find myself pulled into the story nonetheless.

77RidgewayGirl
Mar 11, 5:04 pm



Gunther went downstairs and sat alone in the kitchen, watched the snow turn serious. The truth was that Gunther did feel windless. He felt unusually calm and he wasn't sure it felt good, though he was pleased with how he was handling the situation with his daughter. He held his hand out, like a gunfighter in a movie, to check his steadiness. His hand did not quiver. He checked his pulse. Fifty. It had never been fifty. He wanted to be anxious about his newfound serenity, but instead he grew even more relaxed. The irony was not lost on him and in fact played out as being strange and slightly amusing.

Percival Everett is one of my favorite novelists but one can never be sure if an author who writes novels well will have the same mastery of the short story. I've been disappointed before. But Everett excels at the form, in Half an Inch of Water giving brief looks at lives lived in rural Colorado and Wyoming. The main characters here are mostly men, mostly Black men, living alone, or with their families, all looking to do the right thing, keeping mostly to themselves. In the first story, a vet goes out on horseback to help search for a missing child and finds much more than he'd expected, in another, a horseman helps a woman with her riding, but is taken aback when she takes his practical advice as life lessons. In The Day Comes, the story I pulled the above quote from, the slightly bored sheriff of a quiet rural district deals with the usual small problems and then a much larger one. Each story is carefully crafted and manages to create a large impact in just a few pages.

78stretch
Mar 12, 10:41 am

>60 RidgewayGirl: I am afraid I am the kind of people who reads this. On the shelf it goes...

>77 RidgewayGirl: Have so many Everett to get too but this will also be added to that growing list.

79RidgewayGirl
Mar 12, 10:53 am

>78 stretch: I think that you will get into the groove of what Adjei-Brenyah is doing here more quickly than I did.

>78 stretch: He is prolific! I have a few on my tbr, the new one coming to me when it's released and a long list of others I want to read. Now it's his other short story collections, too.

80RidgewayGirl
Mar 12, 3:04 pm



In this sequel to The Searcher, Tana French brings us back to the rural Irish community of Ardnakelty. The Hunter shows the community slowly accepting Cal Hooper, the American in-comer who has taken on the under-parented Trey and taught her woodworking skills while providing her the stability and guidance she needed. But that all changes when Trey's father returns with a get rich scheme that the local farmers, already strained by a long heat wave, are susceptible to. Tensions mount, not helped by the weather and a little deliberate incitement, until the stakes are raised by murder.

This is a solid crime novel and a good story, filled with characters and their relationships with each other developing over time in a way that feels very real. The Ardnakelty countryside may be beautiful, but this insular community has more than its fair share of secrets and long-held grievances. French knows how to write dialogue, writing in the cadences of the Irish accent, making this novel a pleasure to read as well as a great page turner. She took her time developing Cal's relationship to this community and now that slow build pays off here.

81kjuliff
Mar 12, 3:06 pm

>80 RidgewayGirl: Great review. I’ve been looking for a TanaFrench “Irish” novel.

82RidgewayGirl
Mar 12, 3:29 pm

>81 kjuliff: Kate, this is a sequel and, unlike her Murder Squad books, you need to read the previous book, The Searcher first. But reading them back to back would be wonderful -- I sometimes wished I remembered all the details of the first book while reading the second.

83markon
Edited: Mar 12, 4:34 pm

>80 RidgewayGirl: Libby estimates it will be 11 weeks before I get Tana French's The Hunter in audiobook format. I've also got an audiobook of Yangsze Choo's The fox wife on request at 14 weeks.

84kjuliff
Mar 12, 4:35 pm

>82 RidgewayGirl: Oh! Thanks for letting me know. I’ll try to read them back to back.

85BLBera
Mar 12, 4:50 pm

I think I am # 10 on the list for this one, Kay. Good to know that it is another good one. It's lucky that I do have other things to read.

86rv1988
Mar 12, 10:47 pm

>77 RidgewayGirl: Great review. I'm looking forward to his new book this year as well. I will add this to my TBR.

>79 RidgewayGirl: I'm glad to hear this lives up to the promise of The Searcher. Great review, again.

87RidgewayGirl
Mar 13, 9:46 am

>83 markon: The Fox Wife looks interesting and has a great cover. I look forward to finding out what you think about it. If I weren't making an effort to not load up my reading with library books, I would already be on the waitlist.

>84 kjuliff: I hope you get a narrator who can do both Chicago and west Ireland accents.

>85 BLBera: Beth, I put a hold on it when I first saw that it was going to be published and I was notified that my copy was ready on the release date. The advantages of a smaller library system, I think. I've also gotten emails telling me that the book I requested they buy was not yet published in the US, but that they would acquire one as soon as it was.

>86 rv1988: I'm excited about the new Everett, too. I appreciate his commitment to independent publishing, but I hope the switch to a big publisher for this book will get him the recognition he deserves.

88kjuliff
Edited: Mar 13, 11:26 am

>87 RidgewayGirl: the narrator is Roger Clark, described in Wiki as

Roger Clark is an Irish-American actor and voice actor. He is best known for portraying Arthur Morgan through performance capture in the 2018 video game Red Dead Redemption 2, a role which garnered him critical acclaim and numerous accolades

From NJ - lived in Sligo Ireland and NYc - sounds Jersey to me, but I’m not American-born so I could be wrong.

89cindydavid4
Mar 14, 12:56 pm

hi Kay just noticed your review on wellness im reading it from a kindle sample and liking it alot, but its really huge time invest.Worth it?

90RidgewayGirl
Mar 14, 3:53 pm

>89 cindydavid4: I loved it. Hill goes off on tangents all over the place, and for some reason, it worked really well.

91dchaikin
Edited: Mar 14, 11:14 pm

Hi. So i’m in New Orleans with my son. A last minute spring break trip. Two new recommendations, near the quarter: Domenica - a restaurant in the Roosevelt hotel. Boutique-y food, but really well done. Get a glass of the Barbi ciliegiolo Italian wine. And, for breakfast, Ruby Slippers (i was told to get their Fench Toast bites appetizer, but we didn’t. So I can’t directly vouch for those).

(Edited to fix a botched copy and paste)

92RidgewayGirl
Mar 14, 9:51 pm

>91 dchaikin: Thanks! I'll check those out.

93cindydavid4
Mar 14, 11:40 pm

>90 RidgewayGirl: cool, thanks

94dianeham
Mar 16, 3:45 am

If I was in NOLA on 4/14, this is where I would be.

95RidgewayGirl
Mar 16, 3:56 pm

>94 dianeham: Excellent idea! Thanks!

96dianeham
Mar 16, 4:05 pm

>95 RidgewayGirl: ooh, if you go take pictures, please. I love Cyril and the masking mardi gras indians.

97RidgewayGirl
Mar 16, 4:27 pm

>96 dianeham: I've wanted to add some music to our trip and this is perfect. I will take pictures.

98RidgewayGirl
Mar 18, 5:18 pm



Penelope teaches English in a high school and attempts to scrape by on a 37K salary. Then she writes a novel and, after it becomes a social media favorite, she quits her job to be a part of the team turning her novel into a movie script. As she dutifully attends party after party held in the homes of producers and screenwriters, she attempts to prevent her writing partners from turning her novel into a superhero movie, and begins to feel like her protagonist is reaching out to influence things. Penelope's experiences in Los Angeles are alternated with chapters from her book, an odd, feminist thriller about environmental peril and mermaids.

American Mermaid by Julia Langbein is a funny book about a young woman trying to find a place for herself in the world that demands she be money-oriented and willing to parlay her unexpected success into a high paying career. What Penelope really wants is the question she'll have to answer eventually, but meanwhile there are some fiercely self-possessed teenage girls, a co-worker who stockpiles pizza and a screenplay that seems to add to itself to figure out. The writing is witty and intelligent and humorous. I'm looking forward to whatever Langbein writes next.

99RidgewayGirl
Mar 19, 3:14 pm



Wandering Stars is Tommy Orange's sequel to his debut novel, There There, about Native Americans living in Oakland, California. Orange first takes the story back in time, into the lives of the grandparents, great-grandparents, and further back, all the way to the Sand Creek Massacre, and then forward through the years of incarceration, exile and loss, to the years of struggling to make new lives without the foundations of the old in Oklahoma and on to California. Then the novel moves forward, to after the events of There There, following Orvil, Opal, Jackie and others as they deal with what happens after.

Orange's second novel is more assured but no less pointed than his first. Providing the background makes what follows more understandable and harder to deal with. It also focuses on the aftermath of a shooting, the part that isn't newsworthy, the painful recovery into a new normal with the trauma of the event left for the survivors to come to terms with, or not, with the help of weekly therapy sessions, or not. And when a family is already struggling in other ways, someone who is quiet about their pain and the ways they find to address it can go a long time without being noticed. By tying this second novel so tightly to his first, Orange has written something that will be treasured by those who read There There, but inaccessible to those who didn't. Go read There There, then come back for this one. You will not be disappointed.

100BLBera
Mar 20, 6:55 pm

>99 RidgewayGirl: I was wondering if I should reread There There before reading Orange's new one. I guess I will.

>98 RidgewayGirl: I also enjoyed American Mermaid, which has some pretty pointed critique of popular culture, and, of course, an English teacher protagonist.

101RidgewayGirl
Mar 20, 10:24 pm

>100 BLBera: American Mermaid was really funny. Derek and all those pizza boxes. I would have liked to have reread There There before jumping into Wandering Stars.

102RidgewayGirl
Mar 21, 2:08 pm



"That's why people like Vévoda always have the advantage, you know," Corbeau says, rubbing her nose. "Over people like us. Because we're cursed with the belief that people matter. It's much, much easier to bend the world to your will if bending the world is what matters most to you."

S. is several different books at once. At the base, there's the physical book; a very satisfyingly weighty object with library binding and a library sticker on the spine called, rather obviously, Ship of Theseus. That volume holds the last work of famed author V.M. Straka, a mysterious person whose identity is the subject of debate. In this novel, a man washes ashore at a small industrial port city currently in the midst of a labor strike. He is quickly swept up in the chaos and ends up taking shelter with the ringleaders of the strike as things rapidly fall apart and they are forced to flee across the mountains. Eventually, the man ends up back on board the ship that had left him at the city, and no matter what he does, he ends up back on this ship, one that becomes more and more battered as damaged parts are replaces with ever flimsier substitutions.

The next part of this book are the footnotes written by his translator, a person who never met Straka, but who has spent their life working for him. Straka himself was seemingly disappeared, or chose to disappear, the pages of this novel left scattered in the alleyway behind the hotel where he was taken. There are clues and codes embedded in the footnotes and relate to Straka's history of being part of a band of artists fighting an evil corporate entity.

Then there's the story of an English major working part-time in the university library who finds a copy of Ship of Theseus "owned" (see library markings) by a graduate student expelled from the university who is desperately trying to find out who Straka really was, even as the professor he had studied under has taken his work and is trying to discredit him. As the two correspond through notes written in the margins, they begin to work together to find out who Straka was and what exactly happened to him, leaving information between the pages of the book. There's an added layer in this correspondence, as they go back and forth through the book with their messages, so that a single page can hold messages from different times in their storyline.

The result of all of this is a very tactile and interactive book, where there are maps scrawled on napkins and all sorts of comments on the text as the story progresses. Doug Dorst has created an intricate work where the various elements enhance each other. It's a slow reading process, and one that requires more from the reader than just turning pages, and I very much enjoyed my time with this book. There is an audio version of this book, which boggles my mind.

103ELiz_M
Edited: Mar 21, 6:24 pm

>102 RidgewayGirl: I loved the experience reading this book (and almost argued with the librarian when I went to pick up my hold for S. and was given Ship of Thesis by "mistake"). But I found the underlying work a bit dull.

104RidgewayGirl
Mar 21, 6:36 pm

>103 ELiz_M: I've seen reviews calling it gimmicky, and probably it is, but it was fun to read and while none of the storylines would hold up on their own, together they made for an entertaining book. I really liked the ephemera tucked between the pages.

105mabith
Mar 22, 2:56 am

American Mermaid sounds like a fun one, I've put it on the list to suggest to my book club (everyone keeps picking dark/depressing books and then complaining there are too many dark/depressing books so as one of the nominal group leaders I feel I always have to find lighter books).

I didn't realize there was a sequel to There, There, definitely going on my list.

106FlorenceArt
Mar 22, 3:44 am

>102 RidgewayGirl: “Gimmicky” is the first thing that came to my mind when I read your review. I am a very linear reader and I don’t think this book is for me. But it does sound like an interesting experience.

107RidgewayGirl
Mar 22, 1:12 pm

>105 mabith: It is fun, Meredith, and I appreciated that the main character was an English teacher.

>106 FlorenceArt: Yes, it's definitely not a book for everyone. But I was delighted by how imaginative it was.

108dchaikin
Mar 24, 2:53 pm

Great reviews Kay. I’ve been curious about Orange’s Wandering Stars. As a sequel, it sounds tricky because the end of There There was more literary than realistic or reasonable. There was humor and symbolism and angst, etc that tied the rest of the book together. So an aftermath could easily feel overly sentimental. But sounds like he pulls off a good book. I’ll try to get to it, maybe on audio. (But i’ll avoid S. on audio 🙂)

109RidgewayGirl
Mar 24, 5:16 pm

>108 dchaikin: The aftermath portrayed in Wandering Stars was very much not sentimental at all. Orange has grown a lot as an author, but not lost his viewpoint.

110lisapeet
Mar 25, 2:34 pm

Just checking in to say hi—I hate having to skim in order to even think of catching up, but I do see you've gotten good recs for NOLA books. And restaurants—Darryl's kudos for R'evolution and Cochon (and this from me as a non-meat-eater) are right on. As usual, we have similar tastes in reading (or proposed reading, in my case), so I'm looking forward to actually keeping up now...

111RidgewayGirl
Mar 25, 2:43 pm

>110 lisapeet: Lisa, I'm very excited about the NOLA trip and have made reservations at both those restaurants and have bought tickets to see The Wild Tchoupitoulas, thanks to Diane (dianeham). We're planning on some walking tours, a boat through the bayou, the art museum and just general looking around and bookstore browsing, too.

112RidgewayGirl
Mar 25, 3:32 pm



Claire Keegan's stories are in such demand that she can publish a tiny collection of just three stories, two of them from previous collections, and have people (namely, me) eagerly buy the slim hardcover. So Late in the Day begins with the new story, in which a man goes through his day thinking back on a relationship that ended tragically, given the reactions of his co-workers as he goes about his day. What happened and why is slowly revealed in ways that show just how masterful a writer Keegan is. The next story, The Long and Painful Death, follows a woman on a writing retreat, staying in a cottage Henrich Böll had used. Just as she begins to settle in, her peace is imposed upon by a man who wants to tour the cottage and her attempts to keep to her plans for her days there are impinged upon by the man's presence. The final story, Antarctica, follows a married woman who has decided to have a brief fling in the city.

Each story involves the relationships between men and women, and whether the relationships are glancing or intimate, involve men acting as though their own desires were the only ones that mattered. These stories are far less hopeful than her previous two longer short stories published in this format, but they are every bit as assured and resonant.

I like the physical form this book takes, treating just three short stories as though they were as important as a novel, and the way they are formatted on the page, with generous margins and a title page for each story.

113kjuliff
Mar 25, 4:02 pm

>112 RidgewayGirl: I really enjoyed reading your review Kay. I like the way you tie the three stories together and how you describe the physical aspect of your hardcover edition.

I read Antarctica in another collection, where it is the title of the book. Antarctica - what a story! Not to be forgotten.

Yes Keegan is such a good story teller.

114RidgewayGirl
Mar 25, 9:50 pm

>113 kjuliff: Yes, Antarctica surprised me at the end. But Keegan set the story up for that to be what happened and I, like the protagonist, was simply not paying enough attention.

115BLBera
Mar 25, 10:11 pm

>112 RidgewayGirl: I loved this collection as well, Kay. "Antarctica" really surprised/shocked me. I loved the story about the writer; I got the feeling that Keegan was really having fun with it.

116RidgewayGirl
Edited: Mar 27, 8:55 pm



I have an intense fondness for the 1992 figure skating romcom, The Cutting Edge, and end up watching it whenever I run across it. So I was immediately drawn to From Lukov With Love by Mariana Zapata, since the synopsis sounded very similar to the movie. In this book, Jasmine is a pairs figure skater without a partner. She's prickly and quick to fight (so more Tonya Harding than Kate Moseley). She hates Ivan Lukov, who is wealthy and holds several skating titles and gold medals, so when he wants her to be his new skating partner, her initial impulse is to turn him down, but she needs a partner and Ivan is very good, but can the two of them stop fighting and work together? The obvious answer is yes, and there's nothing surprising in this story, but there are many references to The Cutting Edge and several scenes that were cribbed from the movie. Since the story was told entirely from Jasmine's point of view, many of Ivan's actions made little sense, but I'm not sure that matters much. No one said, "Toepick!" which was a minor disappointment, but the pamchenko was referenced.

117labfs39
Mar 28, 8:05 am

>116 RidgewayGirl: Your review made me smile. I have movies like this too.

118RidgewayGirl
Apr 1, 7:03 pm



Fourteen years went by and the Wilsons' luck held. Fourteen years is a long time to stay lucky even for rich people who don't cause trouble for anyone.

I went through it with In the Land of Dreamy Dreams, a short story collection written by Ellen Gilchrist and first published in 1981. I began the collection and was quickly enamored of the voice; it's like Flannery O'Connor and Dorothy Parker were collaborating to have the most terrible things happen to cruel and thoughtless people. And slowly, sometime around the fourth or fifth use of the n-word, I felt qualms. 'Maybe Gilchrist is just really committed to using the words her characters, white people living in the South in the 1970s, would have used?' I rationalized, and maybe? It shows up as a descriptive term used by the omniscient narrator as well, so I will say that perhaps some short stories age better than others and there's a reason she isn't much read nowadays. And about the fourth or fifth short story I started to get tired of bad things happening to bad and careless people.

Then, two-thirds through this book about mean people the author clearly disliked, something extraordinary happened. I reached Revenge, a longer short story in which a girl is sent to spend the summer of 1942 in the South with her grandparents and her cousins, all boys, who exclude her from their project of becoming Olympic athletes. She is enraged by their behavior.

I prayed they would get polio, would be consigned forever to iron lungs. I put myself to sleep at night imagining their labored breathing, their five little wheelchairs lined up by the store as I drove by in my father's Packard, my arm around the jacket of his blue uniform, on my way to Hollywood for my screen test.

Rhoda is not exactly a sympathetic character, but Gilchrist here takes the time to inhabit her life so that I understood her frustration with being stuck inside when she really needed to run around outside. It's a great story with a fantastic ending, one that fully respects who Rhoda is. A perfect story and one I don't think I will soon forget. And, in the stories that follow, Gilchrist continues to excel, each story centering a girl unable to conform to what's expected, while still fully inhabiting the prejudices and expectations of her time and place. It's superbly well done.

How to reconcile a book of stories that have aged badly, but that include some brilliant stories? I have no idea.

119lisapeet
Apr 2, 10:28 am

>118 RidgewayGirl: I loved Ellen Gilchrist when I read her regularly, in the '80s and '90s... I didn't have a sense of why it might be an issue that she was a well-off white southern lady writing about well-off white southern folks, with people of color playing such small supporting roles, until much later. But when I was into her, I was into her, and can still remember some turns of phrase of hers that just enchanted me in my early fiction-reading stages.

After she died this year, I thought about writing up a Bloom post on her, since she didn't get published until well into her 40s... but then thought eh, I don't need the heartache of trying to explain away the sensibilities of a writer I once really enjoyed but might not so much now, so I didn't.

120RidgewayGirl
Apr 2, 1:15 pm

>119 lisapeet: That was my experience, as well. I had fond memories about the author without remembering anything about the stories. I've decided to keep a collected stories collection that picks a half dozen stories from each of her published books to read later, and donate the others that I liked enough to drag with me from place to place. She did win a National Book Award, which is interesting.

121rv1988
Apr 2, 11:15 pm

>118 RidgewayGirl: This is such an interesting review. I don't have any idea of how we reconcile ourselves to works that have aged badly. I think the only conclusion I've arrived at is to allow that recognizing they've aged badly is enough.

122SassyLassy
Apr 3, 10:50 am

>118 RidgewayGirl: How to reconcile a book of stories that have aged badly, but that include some brilliant stories?

The method I use is to read as if I am in the time when the book was written. It is sad though when it is an author or book you have good memories about.
I loved Lorna Doone as a child, but rereading it as an adult, I was horrified. That doesn't mean it was bad writing, just that the world has moved on.

123kjuliff
Apr 3, 11:06 am

>122 SassyLassy: I think Dan says that he reads such books “in their moment”. But I find that sometimes this is impossible. Of course we can’t condemn all books that have archaic mindsets, but there’s a limit.

Perhaps I sometimes think, it comes down to the writer. Jane Austen for example has scenes where the male character would be quite obnoxious if he appeared in say a book by Annie Ernaux. Of course Lizzie gets the better of him, but Mr Darcy is a pathetic sort of bloke in many ways. Only Ms Austen can make him likeable.

124RidgewayGirl
Apr 3, 1:45 pm

>121 rv1988: Yes, that seems about right. Most books, after all, do not stand the test of time and are quietly forgotten.

>122 SassyLassy: Oh, it's dangerous to reread childhood favorites. I pulled out Black Beauty when my kids were young and they loved it, while I grew increasingly unhappy about a tedious sermon disguised as a novel. Even when you agree with most of the points raised, no one wants to read a sermon.

>123 kjuliff: It depends on the book, sure. Many books that are now kind of offensive are easy to discard, but it's important to recognize the problematic aspects of the ones we still love. I mean, Hemingway is an author whose short stories and novels I love, but there is no doubt he was a deeply problematic guy and those attitudes do permeate his work.

It's snowing here. It's not sticking, but this is not appropriate behavior from Spring.

125RidgewayGirl
Apr 3, 4:28 pm

This book was this month's book club choice. I liked it more after discussing it with the group, all of whom liked it more than I did.



The Wind Knows My Name by Isabelle Allende and translated from Spanish by Frances Riddle begins with the story of a six year old boy in Vienna in 1938, beginning with the terrible night when his father disappears and he and his mother take shelter in the upstairs apartment of a war veteran while their own apartment is vandalized. He is later placed on a train filled with other Jewish children and sent to live out the war safely in England.

Then, in 1981, another child it taken to the city by her father for healthcare. While she is there, the residents of her village in El Salvador, El Mozote, are all murdered by the military. She and her father flee north to the United States and attempt to put together a life in this new country.

And in 2019, another young girl and her mother arrive in Arizona after a dangerous journey from El Salvador. They are quickly separated and while Anita is terrified, she ends up with allies, an immigration advocate and the lawyer working pro bono. Their first task is to find her mother.

The stories of these three children intertwine over time, and that story is both harsh and lovely. Allende is making a point here, about how damaging being left alone can be for a child, but also how desperate a parent has to be to let a child go in the hopes that they will at least survive. She is interested in what happens in the new, strange place, when the people around that child are not necessarily nurturing or welcoming and the lasting damage done, but also the people who are willing to open their hearts to these children. Allende herself founded a non-profit helping children immigrating to the US and her knowledge of the situation is clear in her writing.

126cindydavid4
Apr 3, 5:18 pm

>124 RidgewayGirl: then there's Edith Wharton, who I have come to admire and picked up a few more of her books, who uses the N word. Not all the time, but still they stood out in an otherwise excellent read. We cant go back to that time and change things, we need to change them here. And to those who say nothing has changed , our voters put in a person of color for presidet Twice

127RidgewayGirl
Apr 6, 3:56 pm



In this final installment of the Indian Lake trilogy, The Angel of Indian Lake, Jade is no longer a teenager, no longer an inmate and, thanks to the influence of her best friend, Letha, she's making a stab at adulthood teaching history at Proofrock high school. Sure, she's still smoking a lot and maybe not sleeping much, but she's retired from the final girl stuff, getting therapy, and even wearing pantyhose and sensible heels to work. So when some local kids go missing, it's not her problem anymore. And when a head rolls through the middle of the school car line, her only involvement is in babysitting the new sheriff's toddler. But Jade can't just opt out of what's happening and soon enough she'd drawn across the lake once again.

In any trilogy, the final book has to pull everything together while also providing larger stakes and in this regard The Angel of Indian Lake delivers. This isn't a book that will make sense when read out of order, but if you've read the previous two books, you'll find this to be a satisfying ending, even if Stephen Graham Jones is far too eager to kill off favorite characters. Adult Jade is still prickly, but she's also oddly empathetic, understanding the trauma of the people around her and hoping to help them. There's more gore and jump scares than ever. Jones has a read love of slasher movies.

128labfs39
Apr 7, 10:35 am

>124 RidgewayGirl: this is not appropriate behavior from Spring

You've got that right!

>125 RidgewayGirl: What didn't you like about it?

129RidgewayGirl
Apr 7, 12:36 pm

>128 labfs39: Lisa, I had such high expectations, given how much I love The House of the Spirits. The Wind Knows My Name is the kind of book great for book groups, with lots to discuss, but there's none of the magic realism of her earlier book and the writing was far less interesting, being just straight-forward and uncomplicated. It feels like the two books were written by different authors.

130labfs39
Apr 7, 4:55 pm

>129 RidgewayGirl: Too bad it didn't work for you, the description sounds fairly interesting. Sometimes the disconnect between our expectations and the book work to our disadvantage.

131cindydavid4
Apr 7, 6:22 pm

>129 RidgewayGirl: I loved her first 3,4 books; but seems like when she moved to california she dropped everything that made her books worth reading for me any way

132rv1988
Apr 7, 11:03 pm

>127 RidgewayGirl: Very interesting. This trilogy has been on my list for a while, but I'm a big baby about authors killing favourite characters.

>125 RidgewayGirl: Lovely review.

133RidgewayGirl
Apr 9, 6:50 pm



When they get the phone call that their oldest son is in a coma in a hospital in the Norwegian city of Trondheim, Lil and Alba hurry there from their apartment in France, leaving their two other children, to be at their son's side. At the hospital, they are left waiting to see if he will regain consciousness and to find out what the damage to his brain is. Cormac James's novel follows the two women as they wait, stuck in a stressful situation, where the only thing they can do is wait. And, as they wait, as the medical staff work to pull him out of his coma, the fissures in their relationship are laid bare.

There's a lot of good stuff in this novel. James writes well and the character studies of the two women, especially Lil, are interesting. The Norwegian hospital and how the medical staff become involved in the lives of this small family is detailed and very different from how this same situation would be handled in the US. There are, however, two issues I have with this novel. The first is that I wonder why the author chose to make the characters two women, when their marriage is a stereo-typed caricature of a heterosexual relationship, with one character being uncommunicative, contemptuous of her wife, enjoying casual affairs and preferring to drink over showing any affection for the woman she married. The other woman is nurturing, has a body that shows the impact of three pregnancies, knits, needs affection, has religious beliefs and keeps her own anger hidden from everyone, including herself. My second issue is the lack of character development. Despite the great upheaval and shock of their son's medical emergency, neither woman changes at all during this book. I waited for a confrontation, a real conversation, a reconciliation, or a decision from one of them that being married to someone you hate is unhealthy and divorce is a reasonable solution, at the very least, and (spoiler alert) none of that happened. James does write well and I'm interested in seeing how he develops as a writer.

134kjuliff
Apr 9, 7:01 pm

>133 RidgewayGirl: Interesting. I take it this is a young writer? I wonder why he set the novel in Norway? How was the hospital experience different than what you’d expect in America?

135RidgewayGirl
Edited: Apr 9, 9:58 pm

>130 labfs39: Definitely knowing the book was written by Allende did set up expectations in my mind.

>131 cindydavid4: I know what you mean. And probably dropping the magic realism and making her writing more straightforward does help her sell books.

>132 rv1988: The series is very much a love letter to slasher movies. I would have enjoyed the book more if I'd had more knowledge about them.

>134 kjuliff: Not that young, and many of the other reviews of this book are far more positive. I think that setting the novel in Trondheim, which is in the north of Norway, and setting it during the winter, did make for a world where everything is dark most of the time. And, in the story, everything is covered by the student's health insurance, including an apartment for the couple to stay and perks like access to the work-out rooms. The staff also had plenty of time, with a single nurse assigned to watch the son, and only him and the doctor spent much of her time on her hobbies and in just making sure the women were doing okay.

136kjuliff
Edited: Apr 9, 10:11 pm

>135 RidgewayGirl: Thanks Kay. Coincidently I’m reading a book set (so far) in north Norway. I’m right at the bit when the MC is irretrievably lost in a valley where he’d been stuck for days. It’s We Die Alone, and is about a man escaping the Nazis.

Trondheim does sound interesting. And yes I have been in an American hospital. The Norwegian one sounds a lot better.

137RidgewayGirl
Apr 9, 10:28 pm

>136 kjuliff: Northern Norway seems a lot nicer without Nazis. And, regarding the medical care, my daughter required surgery in the US and Germany when we lived there and the differences were pretty stark.

138kjuliff
Apr 9, 11:08 pm

Everywhere is better without Nazis.

I’ve only ever been in American hospitals when I’ll, and Ausssie ones when giving birth. Australia has universal health insurance paid for by taxpayers, but still has private hospitals. I am not a fan of the health system here.

139RidgewayGirl
Apr 11, 1:11 pm



There's something great about reading a novel by an author you trust, isn't there? Hard Girls is by J. Robert Lennon, so I started off thinking that I was going to enjoy a wild ride that would surprise me a few times, and it turned out I was right. Jane is a mother in her mid-thirties, married and working as administrative assistance at the same college her father teaches at, which lets her keep an eye on him. She's worked hard to build this ordinary existence, and then a single email from her twin sister throws it all into the air. It all has to do with her mother, who disappeared decades ago and had not really been around much when Jane was a child and she and her sister developed Harriet the Spy-level skills to try to figure out what was going on with her. Moving back and forth from her childhood to her teen years to Jane's present day, the story is both a thriller with a lot going on and a nuanced look at the relationships between mothers and daughters. It looks like this is the first of a planned series and I will be reading every single one of them.

140kjuliff
Apr 11, 1:32 pm

>139 RidgewayGirl: Looks good and also just what I need right now. I just finished We all Die Alone which was gripping - recommended by Lisa. I have not read any books by J. Robert Lennonbut after reading your review I’ve started Hard Girls. I’d tried reading The Seven Moons of Maali but male gay sex during war time is not my cup of tea.

141rhian_of_oz
Apr 17, 1:20 am

>139 RidgewayGirl: Ooh yes please! Adding this to my wishlist.

142mabith
Apr 17, 5:18 pm

Hard Girls sounds interesting, and maybe a good one for my book club. Definitely putting it on the list.

143RidgewayGirl
Apr 17, 6:37 pm

>140 kjuliff: I've read one other book by J. Robert Lennon, which I also loved, but it was so different from this one, they could have been written by different people. I like authors who keep switching styles and genres.

>141 rhian_of_oz: I look forward to find out what you think about it.

>142 mabith: Lots to discuss with this one, too.

144RidgewayGirl
Apr 17, 6:50 pm

Well, I am back from New Orleans, full of thanks for the excellent guidance I got from you all here. I'll post more, along with pictures, once I've unpacked and slept.

145dchaikin
Apr 18, 3:47 pm

>144 RidgewayGirl: ooh. So, a good visit?

>118 RidgewayGirl: i own this Gilchrist collection. Never had any idea what’s inside. I’m now more curious and intrigued. The racism is an issue I’m trying to manage with Faulkner. Wharton occasionally uses the N word and it’s strange to see it and revealing. But she doesn’t really go into race so it’s overlookable to a degree. Faulkner, however, likes his black characters a lot. And that makes for a more complicated and inescapable racism.

146RidgewayGirl
Apr 18, 8:23 pm

>145 dchaikin: Dan, it was a great visit, largely because of all the excellent guidance I was given here. The one downside was that on the day we left, I woke up with the flu and am currently non-functional. As soon as I'm feeling better I'll post pictures and impressions.

As for the Gilchrist, the final section of the book is, in my opinion, brilliant. But the stories that come before Revenge have aged badly. The issue of how to approach white Southern writers is complex and fraught.

147dchaikin
Apr 18, 9:07 pm

That’s no fun, Kay. Get liquids and rest and take care. (Hopefully you hit that point where you feel just good enough to read.)

148labfs39
Apr 19, 7:38 am

Feel better soon, Kay!

149RidgewayGirl
Apr 22, 10:27 am



The Sleepwalkers by Scarlett Thomas consists as a bundle of papers collected at a boutique hotel on a Greek island. The first section is a letter, written by Evelyn to her husband, Richard, on their honeymoon. In it, she explains why she is leaving him, going back through their relationship, but with the most detail on the events of the past days. It's compelling--and sets the reader up for a she said/he said dissection of a relationship, an impression enforced by the second section beginning with a letter written by Richard about their relationship, but that's not what Thomas is doing here, or not all that she is doing here. There's also the hotel owner, about whom the couple react to strongly, but very differently. In this novel, what is happening is happening, but so is a lot of other things, events and perspectives on the same events.

Thomas is a skilled writer and she's managed to pull off a novel that begins as one thing and ends as another. It's best to go into this novel knowing as little as possible about it. All I will say is that the novel is both a portrayal of the sexual dynamics between a newly married couple and something else entirely.

150RidgewayGirl
Apr 22, 11:00 am

So, regarding New Orleans, it's a fantastic place although I am not a fan of Bourbon Street. The art museum is very well curated with interesting collections from Africa and South America that directly address the provenance of the pieces. There was a Louise Bourgeois sculpture that I didn't know was there until we arrived, so that was a surprise treat. We ate and drank ridiculously well, enjoyed a lot of music and saw a fair bit of the city and took a tour through one of the cemeteries. Oh, and I bought some books. Faulkner Books was beautifully curated and a joy to visit, Crescent City Books was a fun, neighborhood shop and there was one used bookstore that had some great stuff, but since they allowed in drunk people with their hurricanes in, the browsing was unpleasant and we left so that the wild partiers could spill their drinks without my disapproval.

151labfs39
Apr 22, 1:32 pm

>150 RidgewayGirl: Sounds delightful (except for the spilled drinks in a bookstore). Thanks for sharing the photos.

152lisapeet
Apr 22, 1:42 pm

>150 RidgewayGirl: Oy, spillable drinks in a bookstore would make me so anxious. But the rest of your trip sounds great! I was there a little over a year ago for a conference and didn't get to sightsee as much as I would have liked, and I did end up on Bourbon Street, which is just cheesy (but that's where the Mardi Gras floats came through). Did you get to any good restaurants?

153RidgewayGirl
Apr 22, 1:53 pm

>151 labfs39: It was a great trip.

>152 lisapeet: I took everyone's advice and shoehorned in as many restaurant suggestions as I could. We managed to eat at The Napoleon House, Restaurant R'evolution (the death by gumbo was superb), Cochon, The Camellia Grill and Cafe du Monde. Beignets are pretty good!

154kjuliff
Apr 22, 2:24 pm

>149 RidgewayGirl: This sounds a bit like a Patricia Highsmith. Is it? I’m very tempted from your description but haven’t read anything by Scarlett Thomas.

155lisapeet
Apr 22, 4:56 pm

>153 RidgewayGirl: Having eaten at Restaurant R'evolution and Cochon (me, a vegetarian!), as well as Café du Monde and the Napoleon House some 40 years ago on my first time to New Orleans, sounds like you did well!

156RidgewayGirl
Apr 22, 5:54 pm

>154 kjuliff: It's quite a bit more graphic than Highsmith, Kate. It's more Louis Malle than Alfred Hitchcock, if that makes sense.

>155 lisapeet: I feel like we did, for sure. My husband managed to eat every single kind of seafood and fish available, including a crawfish toast the morning we left.

157BLBera
Apr 22, 6:09 pm

>150 RidgewayGirl: Sounds like you had fun, Kay. One of these days...

158RidgewayGirl
Apr 23, 10:06 pm



The Moon of Turning Leaves by Waubgeshig Rice is the sequel to the surprising and fascinating apocalyptic novel, The Moon of Crusted Snow, in which the inhabitants of an isolated reserve in northern Ontario are cut off from the rest of the world when all communication technology suddenly stops working. At the beginning of this sequel, twelve years have passed and the small Anishinaabe tribe have settled a short distance from their old settlement, having built traditional dwellings and having embraced their heritage, from their language and customs to the ways they interact with the world around them. And for a time, that has served them well, but now the lake holds fewer fish and they realize that they will need to move to a new location. A plan is hatched to send a small group to their ancestral grounds on the banks of Georgian Bay. This novel is the story of that journey.

I'm an outlier on this, but I am so tired of apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic novels. There's a sameness to them and I find it hard to be pulled into the same tired story. The Moon of Crusted Snow was different enough for me to be intrigued and Rice created characters who were very likable. The sequel was fine, but it falls into the patterns of the genre, making it more predictable. Still, for those who loved the first book, the sequel will be a satisfying read.

159labfs39
Apr 24, 1:39 pm

>158 RidgewayGirl: I have been eagerly waiting for this sequel. Despite your warnings, I am still going to look for it as I was one of those who did really enjoy TMoCS. For me much of the enjoyment was the evocation of place. The apocalypse aspect was less interesting IMO.

160RidgewayGirl
Apr 24, 9:11 pm

>159 labfs39: I was so excited about the sequel, Lisa. I think you may like it more than I did and it was a hopeful book. The way the community reclaimed their culture and language was also interesting.

161rv1988
Apr 24, 9:42 pm

>158 RidgewayGirl: This sounds fascinating. I have not heard of the book at all. It's interesting to have the apocalypse from this perspective. I'll be looking this up.

162RidgewayGirl
Apr 24, 11:24 pm

>161 rv1988: Rasdhar, The Moon of Crusted Snow is the first book and it really is something special.

163dianeham
Edited: Apr 24, 11:32 pm

>150 RidgewayGirl: you saw the Mardi Gras Indians and Cyril Neville - so cool.

164rachbxl
Apr 25, 6:52 am

>158 RidgewayGirl: I am so tired of apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic novels yep, I'm with you. I've read too many, can't bear any more.

Glad you enjoyed your trip to New Orleans.

165RidgewayGirl
Apr 25, 7:00 pm

>163 dianeham: The Wild Tchoupitoulas were a lot of fun. Thanks so much for the tip to go. We were even able to travel to and from the club on the tram, which was fun.

>164 rachbxl: I think we're outliers, but they are all over the place and, with a few exceptions, not really adding anything new.

166rv1988
Apr 25, 10:38 pm

>162 RidgewayGirl: Noted! I've requested it at the library. Now to wait....

167rocketjk
Apr 26, 8:27 am

>165 RidgewayGirl: "The Wild Tchoupitoulas were a lot of fun. Thanks so much for the tip to go. We were even able to travel to and from the club on the tram, which was fun."

Oh, cool. Where did you see the Wild Tchoupitoulas? And, by the way, never let a New Orleanian hear you refer to the "tram." You were on the streetcar. :)

168lisapeet
Edited: Apr 26, 10:45 am

>162 RidgewayGirl: I very much want to read Moon of Crusted Snow, not least because I have a galley of the second but feel like I should read them in order. My library has the first, so I'm good... just put a hold on it.

169RidgewayGirl
Apr 26, 12:27 pm

>166 rv1988: Rasdhar, I look forward to finding out what you think.

>167 rocketjk: Jerry, we saw the Wild Tchoupitoulas at a small club called Chickie-Wah-Wah, which reminded me of many of the clubs I went to with my friends when we were all in our early twenties and Phoenix, AZ had a bunch of small music venues and a ton of local alternative music and there was always some band visiting. I will say that GenX has not used the many decades since to learn how to dance and the venue was far too small for the Mardi Gras Indians.

>168 lisapeet: Lisa, this is a case where you do have to read the first one.

170lisapeet
Apr 26, 12:53 pm

>166 rv1988: It's a good thing we're not all patronizing the same library—otherwise we'd never get our holds.

171RidgewayGirl
Apr 26, 4:23 pm



In Strangers to Ourselves: Unsettled Minds and the Stories That Make Us, Rachel Aviv uses four case studies to explore the interaction between psychiatry and the actual lives of the people who fall under its care for varying reasons. A woman in India becomes increasingly involved in living spiritually, and Aviv uses this case to explore how religious behavior and western psychiatry can conflict. A man spends months in an institute undergoing psychotherapy, losing his family and career along the way, only to have pharmaceuticals quickly lift him from his depression. Aviv here looks at the tension between therapy and modern pharmaceuticals as well as society's belief that certain mental illnesses are personal failings rather than errors in brain chemistry. A young Black woman's mental health issues go unaddressed until she ends up incarcerated, highlighting how society is set up to provide support to some, and punishment to others. And a woman, having been prescribed an ever changing and increasing cocktail of drugs to manage her depression is faced with the difficult task of trying to wean herself off the drugs.

The book is also prefaced and ended with an account of her own early childhood stay in a mental health ward and how the two girls she looked up to while she was there had lives that turned out very differently than her own.

There's so much here, and it's all so fascinating. Aviv isn't advocating for specific approaches (although she is clear on the need for more funding and improvements to mental healthcare), but exploring the places where the contradictions lay. It makes sense that an organ as complex as the human brain would sit uncomfortably with simple answers or that what works for one person would also work for another. Aviv is also so deeply caring of her four subjects and her reporting here includes family members and those who have interacted with them, showing how mental illness doesn't only affect the person disabled by the illness. Aviv knows how to tell a story and her attention to detail is effective here. This is a far cry from the usual "look at this wacky mental illness and how it makes this guy act weird" approach and I'll be thinking about the issues she raises and the very real people she writes about for some time.

172cindydavid4
Apr 26, 4:35 pm

that looks very interesting; great cover too

173rocketjk
Apr 26, 4:36 pm

>169 RidgewayGirl: Chickie-Wah-Wah is after my time in New Orleans (I left in 1986), but I have been there a time or two in more recent visits to town. I could see how it could be too small for Mardi Gras Indians, but on the other hand, elbow-to-elbow crowds in music clubs is kind of a New Orleans tradition. Did you get to the Maple Leaf or Tipitina's? Those are my two favorite music clubs in town, plus the Snug Harbor for jazz.

174FlorenceArt
Apr 27, 2:56 am

>171 RidgewayGirl: Great review, thank you! The books sounds very much worth reading.

175Simone2
Apr 27, 3:42 am

Catching up. Some great recommendations here. I immediately ordered copies of Half an Inch of Water and The Sleepwalkers.

I am glad you liked Hard Girls so much. I was a bit disappointed but maybe my expectations were too high, I love J Robert Lennon’s more speculative fiction.

Also, I need to start reading Tana French. So many books!

176rhian_of_oz
Apr 27, 7:19 am

>158 RidgewayGirl: I very much liked The Moon Of Crusted Snow less for the apocalypse and more for the sense of place. I will still read the sequel but will make sure to temper my expectations.

177rv1988
Apr 27, 8:47 am

>170 lisapeet: Isn't it? Incidentally, my library has a form that lets you recommend a title if they don't have it, and I have been using it to ask for dozens of books mentioned in this thread. The person processing those requests is probably thinking, 'Oh no, not this one again!'.

178RidgewayGirl
Apr 27, 2:10 pm

>172 cindydavid4: It is fascinating, Cindy. Filled with things I'd never known or considered.

>173 rocketjk: Jerry, we only went to one music club. But there was a music festival going on when we were there, so we got to hear a lot of music while just walking around. One late afternoon we came across a small courtyard where a jazz trio was playing and it was a fun way to pause before we went out to dinner.

>174 FlorenceArt: Yes, I'm not generally a non-fiction reader and the books I do pick up end up taking me a long time to read, but I tore through this book in just a few days.

>175 Simone2: Barbara, I loved Subdivision, which was a bizarre book. I think that liking his other and very different work made me more predisposed to enjoy what he was doing in Hard Girls. I trusted him to tell a story that made sense in the end.

>176 rhian_of_oz: Oh, absolutely. The northern Ontario setting is not one often written about and Rice describes it so well.

179Simone2
Apr 28, 10:51 am

>178 RidgewayGirl: For me too Subdivision is the reason I wanted to read more by him. I loved some of his backlist book, yet this one feels too straightforward for me. I did enjoy it but I expected just that bit extra I think.

180RidgewayGirl
Apr 28, 8:37 pm



Rachel Khong wrote the delightful Goodbye Vitamin, and now she has a new novel that takes on three generations of the same family to look at the reasons they split apart and how they might come back together. Real Americans begins in the middle with Lily Chen, raised by immigrants from China, she feels her mother's disappointment in her lack of purpose, as she works unpaid as an intern and struggles to get by with a series of side gigs. When she meets Matthew, the golden son of a family whose immense wealth is based on their pharmaceutical company, they feel a real connection but their differences may sink their relationship. Then there's Nick, raised by his mother in a small Washington community, feeling like an outsider. Reconnecting with his father is fraught, but that's not the only family member he's never had the opportunity to get to know. And finally, the book goes back to the beginning, with a bright, determined girl grows up in rural China, eager to find a way to get to university, but that opportunity is destroyed by the Cultural Revolution and her best chance may be to get out of the country with the young man who wants to leave too.

Often, the different timeline structure doesn't work, but here, Khong keeps the book structured into three distinct sections, so there's no jumping around. She also gives each generation's story a different tone and style to reflect the time in which it is set. Khong writes so well, and is so deliberate in her choices, yet there's an effortlessness to her writing that made the entire novel a lot of fun to read. There's a lot of ground covered in this novel, but at its heart it's the story of family and of forgiveness and learning to understand each other across the generations. I loved this book.

181BLBera
Apr 28, 9:39 pm

I'm looking forward to this one, Kay. I loved Goodbye Vitamin and am waiting for my library copy of Khong's new one to be available.

182rv1988
Apr 28, 11:11 pm

>180 RidgewayGirl: Great review, and this sounds very interesting. I feel like I say that each time I come to your thread, but it's true each time!

183RidgewayGirl
Apr 28, 11:36 pm

>181 BLBera: I loved Goodbye Vitamin, too. The first section of the book feels tonally similar, but this book is a lot more ambitious.

>182 rv1988: We do read a lot of the same books, and I've added several to my wishlist from your thread.

184RidgewayGirl
Apr 30, 6:18 pm



There was also, that spring, the sensation of getting older. It was right there in the mirror, of course, but it was also in other places--the supermarket, where I walked among young people without any of them ever looking up to notice me. It was in the absence of this acknowledgement, I think, that I felt the greatest sadness. It was the reality of being unseen, of walking through life as a ghost.

In The Disappeared: Stories by Andrew Porter, men, usually in their early forties, usually living in Austin, but also sometimes in San Antonio, wrestle with aging and the pressure to have figured things out by now. They work, if they are employed, as adjuncts or in some administrative job at the university, still sort of working on that project, or carefully avoiding recognizing that they've abandoned that film/artwork. You'd think a short story collection in which the protagonist could almost be the same guy would end up being boring or repetitive, but Porter's writing is so good and this everyman character he's playing with is a guy we all know and he's kind of likeable. Each story captures something about the human condition, while also being specifically anchored in a specific time and place. It's all a little reminiscent of Cheever while being entirely its own thing.

185labfs39
May 1, 4:31 pm

>171 RidgewayGirl: and >180 RidgewayGirl: Two more book bullets. Sigh. Visiting your thread is deadly to my wishlist.

186RidgewayGirl
May 1, 4:59 pm

>185 labfs39: Club Read, as a whole, is a fantastic place for reminding us all that there are more great books published than any one of us can read. My problem is less the endlessly expanding wishlist, than it is the number of books I bring home.

187labfs39
May 1, 5:30 pm

>186 RidgewayGirl: I do my part to keep the publishing industry healthy too, lol. My "read next" shelf has become a small bookcase.

188RidgewayGirl
May 2, 2:06 pm

>187 labfs39: If I restrained myself to just supporting any independent bookstore I came across, I would be in great shape. My weakness in the giant charity book sale. And speaking of which, there's one happening tomorrow in St. Louis and I am planning to take a road trip out that way, in the spirit of exploration and investigation.

189labfs39
May 2, 2:45 pm

>188 RidgewayGirl: LOL, I'm right there with you, sister. I have two library book sales on my schedule for Saturday morning. I only have one local bookstore, and it seems to be closed every time I drive past (I always check though). My problem is online buying: Blackwell's, small bookstores on Amazon marketplace or bookfinder.com, and Better World Books. When these fail me, Amazon gets the book to me within a day or two, or immediately to my Kindle. Sigh.

190KeithChaffee
May 2, 4:27 pm

>188 RidgewayGirl: OMG! I think I remember that book sale from my college years in St. Louis. It was a major annual event held in a giant tent in the parking lot outside one of the big department stores (Famous-Barr, if I remember correctly) just a few blocks off campus.

191RidgewayGirl
May 2, 4:31 pm

>190 KeithChaffee: They are certainly claiming it's enormous. And given that it goes on for five days, this seems plausible. I will report back.

192rachbxl
Edited: May 3, 1:00 am

>188 RidgewayGirl: but if it’s for charity that’s ok and any books bought don’t count ;-) Explore and investigate away!

193dudes22
May 3, 6:06 am

>188 RidgewayGirl: - I wish I'd heard of it when out granddaughter was going to school there.

194rv1988
May 3, 9:34 am

>186 RidgewayGirl: This is so true, and very well said. My mother calls it "hungry eyes, full hands".

195lisapeet
May 3, 11:36 am

My favorite (and nearest) library book sale is now only held once a year in the fall, down from fall and spring, and I keep missing it. As soon as they post it I'm putting it on my calendar... not that I need more books, you understand. But that thrill of the hunt is so pleasurable. I was hanging out with a friend yesterday who was telling me about going to the Louisiana State University Libraries book sale in Baton Rouge, which is enormous (the book sale, that is... I don't know whether Baton Rouge qualifies as enormous).

196RidgewayGirl
Edited: May 3, 6:17 pm

>192 rachbxl: Exactly, it supports literacy programs. I don't want to prevent literacy, do I?

>193 dudes22: I guess it's a little far to make the trip just for the sale.

>194 rv1988: Greed falls in there somewhere, too, I think.

>195 lisapeet: I relate to missing the very event you're looking forward to. Each year, there's a giant rummage sale in town and it features a back room full of donated furniture. Two years ago, I bought a fantastic armchair and looked long and hard at a wonderful 1930s dresser, and regret not buying it. A lot of antiques and well-made older furniture clearly sources from grandma's house. Last year, I forgot about it until the week after it had occurred and this year, I had the flu. I will definitely make next year's event.

The book sale was well worth the trip. I left with ten books, which felt restrained and sensible. The sale was huge, and so was the line to check-out and from the complaining, you'd think the people waiting didn't have plenty to read with them.



197labfs39
May 3, 6:31 pm

>196 RidgewayGirl: Great haul, Kay, and very reasonable. I'll look forward to your comments when you get to Midaq Alley. I loved the Cairo Trilogy and have two other novels by Mahfouz awaiting my attention, although not this one.

198RidgewayGirl
May 3, 6:35 pm

>197 labfs39: I loved Palace Walk and have the second book ready to read. This is a hardcover in excellent condition and I was happy to have found it, despite having another of his novels in my house unread.

199dudes22
May 3, 6:40 pm

I think 10 books is very restrained. I have this book by Mahfouz on my shelves as well as two others all in one volume.

200RidgewayGirl
May 3, 6:43 pm

>199 dudes22: Thank you! I think I struck a fine balance between making it worth the trip and not being greedy. I'm excited about every single one of these books, half of which were on my wishlist.

201mabith
May 3, 7:36 pm

What a lovely book haul! I've enjoyed everything I've read by Naguib Mahfouz (11 so far), although it's hard to live up to Palace Walk and that trilogy generally.

202BLBera
May 4, 1:16 am

Ten books is very restrained, Kay. Happy reading! I loved both Writers & Lovers and The Sound and the Fury is one of my all-time favorites. I'm a fan of Alice Munro as well.

203kac522
May 4, 2:01 am

>196 RidgewayGirl: Wow, scored a Persephone--those are few and far between at book sales!

204rv1988
May 4, 2:35 am

>196 RidgewayGirl: Great haul - and happy reading.

205lisapeet
May 4, 9:48 am

What a great haul! I really need to read my copy of Pulphead straight through—John Jeremiah Sullivan is a total media crush of mine and I love what he does with a story. (He was a source for a reported piece I wrote when I was just starting out in the library journalism biz and at one point toward the end he thanked me for some attribution detail and said, "You're a pro." And yes, I swooned.)

206RidgewayGirl
May 4, 12:32 pm

>202 BLBera: I loved Writers and Lovers so much that I really wanted my own copy. And Dan is responsible for the Faulkner -- his recent review made me want to read this author I have been successfully avoiding for decades.

>203 kac522: I know! And it's in perfect condition and had not even been opened.

>204 rv1988: Thanks, Rasdhar.

>205 lisapeet: Pulphead has been on my wishlist for a long time. The checkout line snaked its way past a table where it was sitting and I managed to snag it on my way by. Usually, I only look at the fiction tables.

207valkyrdeath
May 6, 5:05 pm

>99 RidgewayGirl: I remember really liking There There but unfortunately can't remember anything else about it. I might have to reread it and get to this sequel.

>102 RidgewayGirl: I got a copy of S. a few months ago and absolutely love it as an object, but haven't yet attempted to read it. I'm curious as to how they've managed an audio version!

I'd fallen way behind on reading LT threads but enjoyed catching up on your reviews and adding even more books to my ever expanding list.

208RidgewayGirl
May 6, 5:36 pm

>207 valkyrdeath: It's good to see you here, Gary! I read There There when it was first released, so by the time I got to Wandering Stars, the details of the first novel were hazy, but came back quickly enough as Orange took their story forward.

209RidgewayGirl
May 6, 5:38 pm

Having pulled out all the books on my tbr set in New Orleans, I've been enjoying reading through them now that I'm back.



She was unprepared to see the coast, plot after plot either empty or a pile of rubbish that used to be a house she envied. Miles and miles of destruction. She tried to find some pleasure in the fact that for once the wealthy had fared worse that the poorer people who couldn't afford to live on the water, but the effort failed. It was all carnage.

The Lower Quarter by Elise Blackwell is set in New Orleans in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. People are slowly returning and there's also an influx of new residents, eager for a fresh start. As Katrina bore down on the city, a man was murdered in a French Quarter hotel room but with the devastation, the police aren't doing much to solve the crime. But others are interested in what happened, especially since the man had in his possession three painting, only two of which are recovered from the hotel room. To find that third painting, Elizam, fresh out of prison, is sent in from the west coast. One of his first contacts is a woman named Johanna, a beautiful blonde who makes her living restoring artwork. She has plenty of work, repairing the damage the hurricane and the subsequent mold and humidity caused. Then there's Clay, the son of one of the oldest and wealthiest families in New Orleans. He's waiting for his share of the family wealth, occupying his time with various internet pursuits and in his own particular sexual practices. And, finally, there's Marion, who is scrambling to make ends meet through a variety of jobs, from sex work to bartending. She's really an artist, though, if she can find the time and money to keep painting.

Johanna was familiar with this move: a man seeking sympathy for being married to someone he had chosen to marry. It occurred to her that he might think she'd worn the blue dress--which was modest in its neckline but short enough to show her knees when she sat and mad of a snug-fitting knit--because of him. She wasn't above pursuing such men. Married men were usually easier to get rid of quickly. But not always, and then they were the biggest problem of all because they felt entitled to whatever it was they thought they were exploding their lives to obtain.

This novel is only superficially a crime novel and there are elements of noir in it, from the tough and haunted PI to the blonde bombshell with the mysterious past at the center of the novel. At heart, this is a novel about a specific city at a specific time in its history and a character study of four people. While it was well-written, that tension between what it appears to be and what it is makes the book less effective than it could be. Still, who doesn't like a bit of art theft and vivid rendering of a beautiful city as it remakes itself?

210kidzdoc
May 6, 8:08 pm

I'm coming to the party far too late, Kay! I'm glad that you had a memorable visit to New Orleans, and that you enjoyed three of my favorite restaurants, Camellia Grill, Restaurant R'evolution and Cochon. Beignets are a must, so a trip to Café du Monde was in order.

Great review of Strangers to Ourselves. That is now right up my alley, and since both of my local library systems have plenty of copies in stock I'll almost certainly read it this summer. (How is it already May?!)

211RidgewayGirl
May 6, 9:16 pm

>210 kidzdoc: Darryl, the Death by Gumbo was absolutely amazing. And Camellia Grill was fun, as was taking the streetcar across the Garden District. I think you'll enjoy Strangers to Ourselves and I'd really like to find out what you think of it.

212kidzdoc
May 6, 9:39 pm

>211 RidgewayGirl: Right, Kay. Death by Gumbo would be high on my list of all time favorite entrées based on taste alone, but it's presentation by expert servers puts it probably #1 on my list. There are several YouTube videos that describe its construction and unveiling, such as this one from The Meat Show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKhqGWNkn7I&t=275s

213RidgewayGirl
May 7, 2:06 pm

>212 kidzdoc: He failed to mention how delicious the crispy quail skin works with the broth. I look forward to eating it again.

214kidzdoc
May 7, 2:29 pm

>213 RidgewayGirl: Right, Kay!

215lisapeet
May 7, 5:00 pm

We had the greatest waiter at Restaurant R'evolution. I know that whole performance is his (and the restaurant's) thing, but it was really memorable.

216RidgewayGirl
Edited: May 7, 5:53 pm

>215 lisapeet: Did they bring you a little stool to set your purse on? That was a first for me, although I'd encountered the practice in a novel once.

217lisapeet
May 7, 10:00 pm

>216 RidgewayGirl: No! We were a large-ish group—eight people, maybe? So no little stools, we just dropped our stuff where we sat. I'm sorry I missed out on that one.

218arubabookwoman
May 7, 11:44 pm

>209 RidgewayGirl: I have this one on my shelf but haven't read it yet. However I have read another book by this author, The Unnatural History of Cypress Parish, which you might like. It's a novel about the 1927 flood, and Ne Orleans features prominently.

219RidgewayGirl
May 8, 1:26 pm



All the Sinners Bleed by S.A. Cosby is a dark and gritty crime novel set in a rural county on the banks of the Chesapeake in Virginia. Titus was with the FBI, but had to leave that job. Returning home to care for his father, he becomes sheriff in a county where the law has previously been unequally applied. He's determined to change that, despite resistance from those who feel threatened by change. A school shooting leads to the gruesome discovery of murdered children buried in a field and Titus is in a race to stop the murderer before he kills again, while simultaneously keeping a lid on the simmering tensions and fears in the county that the murders have fueled.

Cosby is an author who does a lot more than just write an entertaining crime thriller. Here, he sheds light on how tradition and habit have imbedded racism into the fabric of a small town's culture and how hard the pushback is to any sort of move towards equality. His portrayal of the people of this small town is clear-eyed and sharp, without ever descending into stereo-type or caricature. Titus is perhaps a little too perfect and too often right, but he's a complex and interesting character. It feels like we may see more of him in future novels and I would be happy to see what he does next. The crimes at the center of this mystery are particularly grim and while the descriptions are not graphic, they were still hard to read. I read Cosby's first novel and it's clear he becomes better with every book he writes and that he still has a great deal to say.

220kjuliff
May 8, 1:37 pm

>219 RidgewayGirl: S.A. Cosby sounds like an interesting writer. I’ve never heard of him and I need to increase the number of crime writers I read. I used to be so up-to-date on this genre but have let my reading lapse in this area. Your review has inspired me and I’ll add this to my tbr.

221RidgewayGirl
May 8, 1:40 pm

>220 kjuliff: Cosby is a fine Southern writer and he really gets to the heart of how things work.

222RidgewayGirl
Edited: May 12, 8:16 pm



Van Gogh and the Avant-Garde : Along the Seine edited by Bregje Gerritse is one of those lavishly illustrated books based on art museum exhibitions that I usually buy to remember the art I saw, but don't really get around to reading. And, to justify my usual habit, the first essay in this book, about the industrialization and suburbanization of the area to the northwest of Paris was an effort to get through. It was interesting more in the abstract than the actuality. But then came the chapters that covered each of the five artists represented in this book; Vincent van Gogh, obviously, but also Georges Seurat, Paul Signac, Emile Bernard, and Charles Angrand, and things became much more interesting.

Asnières is a suburb of Paris, and combined factories, bourgeois residential areas and the recreational possibilities of the river, along with being an inexpensive and short train journey from the city center. As working class Parisians increasingly visited the area on their days off, for a few years, some truly talented artists drew inspiration from the juxtaposition of the industrial and the bucolic. Van Gogh moved to Paris and began painting in Asnières, often in the company of one of the other artists mentioned here. It must have been an interesting experience, painting with Van Gogh as Signac remembered that he had a tendency to get over-excited and gesticulate violently, covering himself with paint, and also unsuspecting passers-by. Their influence was strong, moving Van Gogh from his early, traditional and murky works into the exuberant use of color and brushstroke that we are all familiar with.

The essays on each artist are not especially well-written, written as they are by art historians and curators, but the subject matter is interesting enough to override the dryness of the text. These artists were a contentious and enthusiastic bunch, forming close friendships and feuding with real energy. Bernard once refused to take part in an important show because Signac was already signed up and a visit to Van Gogh in Arles was cut short because of a fight. I am shallow enough to be entertained by 150 year old gossip.

But the real reason anyone buys these giant, heavy books is for the pictures, and the reproductions here are beautifully done, on good quality glossy paper and the part where artwork by the five men is reproduced next to postcards from the same era, of the same scene, often from the same vantage point more than justify the cost of the book.