Detransition, Baby

by Torrey Peters

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"[A novel] about three women--transgender and cisgender--whose lives collide after an unexpected pregnancy forces them to confront their deepest desires around gender, motherhood, and sex..."-- Reese had what previous generations of trans women could only dream of; the only thing missing was a child. Then her girlfriend, Amy, detransitioned and became Ames, and everything fell apart. Ames thought detransitioning to live as a man would make life easier, but that decision cost him his show more relationship with Reese, and losing her meant losing his only family. Then Ames's boss and lover, Katrina, reveals that she is pregnant with his baby-- and is not sure whether she wants to keep it. Ames wonders: Could the three of them form some kind of unconventional family, and raise the baby together? -- adapted from jacket show less

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This is a messy soap opera of a novel. It's wild and full of drama, with conflicts aplenty. Reese is a kind-hearted, funny trans woman who is more than a little self-destructive. One day, her ex gets in touch with an outrageous proposition. He wants her to be a co-parent with his girlfriend who, having discovered that she's pregnant, demands that Ames either step up and be an equal parent or she will end the pregnancy and also the relationship. This is Ames's solid attempt to meet Katrina's need for a full partner even when he doesn't think he can do it. It's a messy, complicated solution, but Ames, for all his reticence, has some complications of his own. He was, after all, until a handful of years ago, not Ames but Amy and only show more detransitioned after becoming weary of the energy it took to deal with the hostility of every day life as a trans woman. And then there's Katrina, who reacts badly to learning about Ames's past, but finds herself wondering if it might not just work.

There is a lot going on in this novel and Peters never allows her characters to become noble representatives of trans women everywhere. They are simply themselves, and they are a mess. Reese is a fantastic character to read about, always entertaining or doing something to blow up her own life. I was worried that this would be an issue-of-the-moment book, but Peters is having too much fun throwing her characters into uncomfortable situations and celebrating their complexity for that to happen. This also didn't feel like a novel that was designed to educate and make the reader comfortable.
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I came across [b:Detransition, Baby|48890225|Detransition, Baby|Torrey Peters|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1587480347l/48890225._SY75_.jpg|68963612] via an excellent Edinburgh Book Festival event on 'A Golden Age for Trans Fiction', unfortunately no longer available online. During the discussion Torrey Peters tended to frame her novel as trans chick lit. Admittedly I haven't read much cis chick lit, but I doubt most of it has anything like the insightful analysis of gender and sexuality I found here. Peters' examination of femininity was fascinating.

The novel's main characters are Reese, a trans woman, Katrina, a cis woman, and Ames, a former trans woman who has detransitioned. When Ames show more accidentally gets Katrina pregnant, he contacts his ex-girlfriend Reese to ask if she wants to help raise the baby. In addition to the three negotiating their potential family, the narrative flashes back to Reese and Ames' past. The reader goes most deeply into Ames' perspective before transition, after transition dating Reese, and why he detransitioned. I found [b:Detransition, Baby|48890225|Detransition, Baby|Torrey Peters|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1587480347l/48890225._SY75_.jpg|68963612] extremely compelling. The characters' dilemmas around Katrina's pregnancy are vividly drawn. Peters' writing is lucid and deadpan, conveying subtle nuances of emotion seemingly effortlessly. There are a really well-judged mixture of astute, farcical, and laceratingly painful moments. An example of the former:

"The only people who have anything worthwhile to say about gender are divorced cis women who have given up on heterosexuality but are still attracted to men."
Katrina leans in. "Really?" She's interested, Reese can tell. She's asked the question with plain curiosity.
"Yes." Reese nods. "I mean, they go through everything I go through as a trans woman. Divorce is a transition story. Of course, not all divorced women go through it. I'm talking about the ones who felt their divorce as a fall, or as a total reframing of their lives. The ones who have seen how the narratives given to them since girlhood have failed them, and who know there is nothing to replace it all. But who still have to move forward without investing in new illusions or turning bitter - all with no plan to guide them. That's as close to a trans woman as you can get.


Of the farcical moments, the most memorable is an obsequious HR person assuming that Ames is a trans man:

"Carrie," Katrina cuts her off again. "Ames isn't a woman."
"No, I know," Carrie assures her. "I know. She's a man."


Having put Ames in this incredibly awkward situation at work, Katrina asks Reese and her trans friends for guidance in a brilliant scene:

This is what happens when the only trans voices out there are the loudest, shrillest trans girls constantly publishing dogmatic Trans 101 hot takes to rebuke the larger cis public. You get people thinking that in order to avoid offending trans people, you must locate and follow a secret guidebook filled with arcane rites, instead of just thinking about them decently, as you would anything else. You get one lady assembling an impromptu transgender focus group to assess how she should take the kind of basic responsibility that she clearly knows how to take in the non-trans-populated situations of her life, while another lady is going around gender-neutralising bathrooms because she doesn't dare ask Ames what he prefers in a direct, respectful manner.


I also enjoyed Reese's observations when Katrina invites her to an essential oil sales pitch/'party' with her friends:

[Reese] decides for the ten thousandth time that heterosexual cis people, while wilfully ignoring it, have staked their whole sexuality on a bet that each other's genders are real. If only cis heterosexuals would realise that, like trans women, the activity in which they are indulging is a big self-pleasuring lie that has little to do with their actual personhood, they'd be free to indulge in a whole new flexible suite of hot ways to lie to each other.


Such insights reminded me of how much mental space gender takes up. Of the lacerating moments, Reese's self-destructiveness and Ames' dissociation were most painful to read. I think the ending was fitting. It's left open whether Katrina gets an abortion, whether her and Ames' relationship survives, and whether Reese remains in their lives. I usually find such uncertain endings unsatisfactory, but it felt right in this case. I couldn't say which would be the best choice for them to make, being too biased by my total absence of desire to be a parent. I appreciate that the ending left hope for a happy queer family, while also demonstrating how difficult that would be given the past trauma and ambivalence of all three. I also really liked the interview with Peters included at the end of the edition I read, which included this astute comment:

What I have tried to do is write characters that are so specific that they are not aspirational and they're also not representative. If you try to create characters that will perfectly represent everyone in the trans community, you also will disappoint people.


[b:Detransition, Baby|48890225|Detransition, Baby|Torrey Peters|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1587480347l/48890225._SY75_.jpg|68963612] is a brilliant piece of character-driven literature with really thought-provoking insight into gender and sexuality. I highly recommend it.
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One of my favorites in a long time. So modern and compelling. I particularly loved the surprising tenderness in one of the relationships. I learned a lot but it wasn’t pedagogical in any way. Exciting prose, and so thought-provoking about womanhood and motherhood and the compromises we all make about ourselves. I can’t wait to read future works by this author.
wow. what can i say about this book. i deeply appreciated the queer portraits of imperfection we see here. i appreciated the ways in which marriage and motherhood are challenged, the ways that identity politics ebb and flow and fall short, the ways that mess constitute the lives of these characters. DETRANSITION, BABY is at once bitterly funny and heartbreakingly tragic, and it hits every major milestone for success along the way. though i can’t say i liked any of these characters, i loved them.

for my own part, as a genderqueer person (pronouns she/they) this book did a lot of unraveling for me. gender matters so incredibly much and also not at all - gender is what we hang our identities on, and it holds us back. so many things are show more true and false at the same time, and i really appreciated the reality of that. this book gives no answers, asks all the questions, and leaves you wondering if your own conceptions of family and life are perhaps too narrow.

tons of research went into this book, it’s very clear, and i love a well-researched ethnography, which is what this book feels like sometimes. a very powerful and thoughtful novel about women, womanhood, gender, and life. you should definitely read DETRANSITION, BABY.
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This book took me exceptionally long to read because it made me feel dumb. Everything was too smart and alluded to stuff I have never seen or didn't understand. And admittedly, I am not well versed in motherhood or the transgender 'vocabulary' that you must have to be fully empathetic and engrained in this story. Because of that, I felt disconnected which is why it's 4 stars for me. There are definitely moments where I felt Katrina and Reese were battling as to who suffers more which will never sit right with me (can we just admit every grief is different? that, even grief you consider 'worse' or 'not as bad', is still grief in the end?). You can read any 1-2 star review and understand how some people might think about this. The writing show more is excellent, sometimes overwrought but still craftful.

Ultimately, what bothers me most is how others received the book. I am noticing that a lot of the low reviewers are white cis women, disguising their transphobia and intolerance, by addressing 1-2 quotes they disagree with. And HEY, I'm all for pointing out specific moments you dislike. But these quotes are usually very obviously sarcasm (and I can't help but wonder if these people actually READ the book because they might have gotten this sarcasm if they'd read the context surrounding it...or at least grasped the sarcastic tone). As for the non sarcastic moments, I think it's fair to say that trans men/women are allowed to feel spiteful and upset (sometimes selfishly) about their lives, even if that spite is directed towards cis people. This is not a book promoting expert philosophy, therefore the opinions of the characters do not have to measure up to that level. These are flawed characters written by a real trans person who has, no doubt, felt spite and jealousy just like the rest of us. Just because that spite reaches new territory (of motherhood), does not mean that spite is any less valid. There are infertile people that will forever try to convince pregnant people not to abort their babies because they were given a 'gift'. Is this not the same thing? Is this rhetoric not rooted in the same logic...that one party has something the other one wants and will, by any means, make themselves a part of it (even if it pains the other)? Let's think critically about the HUMAN EXPERIENCE. We are allowed to write flawed, vulnerable, selfish and jealous characters because we all embody that. So before you get UP IN ARMS about a trans woman feeling slighted or upset about how cis women approach or feel about womanhood, you might want to consider how other peoples opinions and approaches might be different from yours...how those approaches might also (most certainly do) affect you because you've never gotten the chance to experience it yourself.

As for the criticism that this story is very white, I can say wholeheartedly as a black woman that I do not want white people writing for me. I do not want their interpretation of black womanhood through a symbolic black woman with a lot to say about blackness. I would actually take much more offense to this, in that it would almost certainly silence real black voices and books from black people about their own experiences...in the same way a cis person could never write this book. This is also why Katrina's character, specifically her identity as a person of color, did not work for me. It felt that the author was desperately trying to make counter arguments using Katrina, only to circle back to the ultimate point, that Reese's grief and pain is the most unbearable and thus, all the most accurate rhetoric surrounding motherhood is coming from her. While I am extremely empathetic for Reese (arguably more than any other character), I was desperate for some actual thoughtful discussion that didn't involve Katrina backing down... because after all, being an aging divorcee who's miscarried and is now having a baby with an employee, is very hard all on its own.

Let me know what you think. Or don't.
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Que livro foda. O tipo de coisa que todo mundo deveria ler em algum momento da vida pra ver se consegue se livrar de certos cabrestos sociais. É uma história que não só envolve o leitor, como também discute com honestidade não só a heteronormatividade compulsória, mas um monte de questões genuínas sobre afeto, relacionamento e família. Que obra prima. Tanta coisa embalada nessa história sobre uma gravidez indesejada que, nossa, vale cada minuto da sua atenção.
My opinion is divided against itself because on the one hand this is a really thought provoking novel about gender and the experience of being trans, and on the other hand I couldn’t believe the major plot line for even a New York minute and so I didn’t really care how the plot developed, which made for some reluctance to return to the book. 5 stars for characterization, 1 star for plot.

I appreciated learning things such as “flagrantly gay brands such as Delta Airlines and Hyundai” (who knew?), or more seriously, this arresting description of a trans character experiencing sex as their birth gender prior to transitioning:
It took her a while to understand the cyclical loneliness of disappearing in dissociation during sex. That
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people have sex for a shared joy that keeps an existential loneliness at bay, so when she disappeared inside of herself, her more experienced partners sensed that absence and her disappearance hurt them. Since she dreaded hurting those she most wanted to connect with, she grew to dread and avoid sex with specifically those most-liked people. And of course, clearly dreading having to have sex with a person only hurt that person more and drove them away—concluding in a final angst in which the loneliness that had made her want to connect with someone in the first place returned upon her tenfold with every attempt to have sex.


Sometimes the authorial attempt to teach readers something made it seem more like I was reading a long form essay, which was fine, though it interrupted the narrative momentum. Sometimes it was highly unnecessary: yes, anyone reading this novel surely knows about the anti-trans bathroom bills, and is highly likely to be opposed to such laws already. Other times it was with a tinge of humor:
Thalia was a former drag queen turned transsexual, one of the earliest converts in the Great Drag Enlightenment, when a significant quorum of Brooklyn’s queens came out as trans, began to inject estrogen, and renounced their gay past, the consequences of which miffed them into misandry, as the desperately cute twinks who used to sleep with them no longer would.


And then there’s the main plot. I cannot, cannot, imagine a pregnant woman behaving like Katrina does. Being willing to “co-mom” when her lover reveals to her that, surprise, he used to be a trans woman and would like his trans ex-girlfriend to be the baby’s mother too? To the extent that she’s willing to send her infant away to this previously unknown other woman’s home for half the time? If it’s a failure of imagination on my part, then so be it, but, I can’t.

The most sense the novel made on this point was Reese’s first reaction: “Yes, go ask this other woman, Katrina, to split her unborn child with a transsexual. I fully expect that she will murder you for the suggestion...” Yes, that would have made more sense. The second most sense the novel made on this point was when Ames recognized “he had always been scared of Reese’s men”, such as the one who assaulted him and broke his nose. So why would you invite Reese’s expected future violent relationship interests into your child’s life?

The plot’s a big failure for me, which is a shame because the two main characters of Reese and Amy/Ames are well drawn. If only they’d been the center of a different novel. The writing, as can be expected of a debut novel, is uneven, but often quite good.
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Canonical title
Detransition, Baby
Original publication date
2021-01-12
Important places
New York, New York, USA
Dedication
To divorced cis women, who, like me, had to face starting their life over without either reinvesting in the illusions from the past, or growing bitter about the future.
First words
The question, for Reese: Were married men just desperately attractive to her?
Quotations
Would that all difficult women be loved so deeply.
That's who he is now, he reminds himself, someone who makes decisions, who doesn't let life just act upon him. Wasn't that the big lesson of transition, of detransition? That you'll never know all the angles, that delay is ju... (show all)st a form of hiding from reality. That you just figure out what you want and do it? And maybe, if you don't know what you want, you just do something anyway, and everything will change, and then maybe that will reveal what you really want.
So do something.
Once, Reese's friend Catherine was walking home drunk with her boyfriend when he tried to flirt with her by pushing her into a bush. She bounced back out of that bush like an enraged wolverine: spitting, scratching, fighting.... (show all) For the rest of her relationship with him, he would say, "Careful, Catherine is aggressive," and Catherine would wince, understanding her womanhood was on the line every time. A good woman, she heard in the subtext, would have stayed in the bush and cried.
Last words
(Click to show. Warning: May contain spoilers.)They are together, and miles from each other, their thoughts turning to themselves, then turning to the baby, each in her own way contemplating how her tenuous rendition of womanhood has become dependent upon the existence of this little person, who is not yet, and yet may not be.
Publisher's editor
Matsui, Victory; McKenna, Caitlin
Blurbers
Lawlor, Andrea; Lombardo, Claire; Rosenberg, Jordy; Phillips, Helen; Batuman, Elif; Kraus, Chris
Canonical DDC/MDS
813.6
Canonical LCC
PS3616.E84257

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813.6Literature & rhetoricAmerican literature in EnglishAmerican fiction in English2000-
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PS3616 .E84257Language and LiteratureAmerican literature
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