When I Forgot
by Elina Hirvonen
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"Alone in a Helsinki cafe?, Anna, a young journalist, spends a day drinking coffee and reading a novel about three women on a single day in different time periods. The book, a gift from her professor and now lover, an American named Ian, becomes a lens through which Anna can view her own life. The story intertwines the splintered childhood of Anna and her mentally ill brother with the troubled past of Ian and his father, a Vietnam vet. Finnish protests against the invasion of Iraq provide show more the contemporary backdrop and portray the post-September 11, anti-American perspective"--From publisher description. show lessTags
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Elina Hirvonen’s novel When I Forgot, is a striking portrayal of two adults dealing with the mental illness of close family members. The reader is drawn into the lives of Ian and Anna, two Finnish writers. Hirvonen explores the scars left by each character’s experience with mental illness. She demonstrates the difficulty of living one’s own life successfully while dealing with a kind of survivor’s guilt at leaving behind the ill family member. We learn early on that Anna’s brother, Joona, is a paranoid schizophrenic, though the author never explicitly names his illness. Anna’s boyfriend and professor, Ian, struggles with his father’s Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Alcoholism, as well. Ultimately, Hirvonen leaves the show more reader with hopefulness that Ian and Anna will be able to live their live healthfully and happily despite their brushes with illness. Overall the novel is well written and engaging. However, Hirvonen’s sub-story surrounding the 9/11 terrorist attacks seems out of place. I think it detracts from the main conflict and is not thoroughly developed enough to bring any great meaning to the novel or to the event itself. show less
An eye-opening generational viewpoint from the children of the baby-boomers. Deals with precise clarity and incisive insight with the awfulness of ordinary, everyday lives, the hurt and damage that so many live through. it offers a particular insight into the experience of being close (too close) to someone whose reality is just slightly skewiff of everyone else's, and shows how that is rational, in its own terms, as well as self-destructive and unbearably painful to watch from outside. And yet this book is wonderfully uplifting in places. i don't know how the author did that and I look foward to reading more from her.
'memory is one of life's burdens that we can do nothing about'
By sally tarbox on 8 April 2012
Format: Paperback
I read this in one sitting; it's the terribly sad story of Elena and her brother, Joona, who is in a Helsinki mental hospital. The accounts of his life are punctuated by happy family recollections - and darker ones. Did their father's brutality cause his son's emotional state?
Elena intersperses her narrative with memories of her own lonely childhood; her partner, American lecturer Ian, has his own demons too as a bullied youth with a father damaged by Vietnam.
A deeply moving book, to which the little flashes of happy memory give added poignancy.
By sally tarbox on 8 April 2012
Format: Paperback
I read this in one sitting; it's the terribly sad story of Elena and her brother, Joona, who is in a Helsinki mental hospital. The accounts of his life are punctuated by happy family recollections - and darker ones. Did their father's brutality cause his son's emotional state?
Elena intersperses her narrative with memories of her own lonely childhood; her partner, American lecturer Ian, has his own demons too as a bullied youth with a father damaged by Vietnam.
A deeply moving book, to which the little flashes of happy memory give added poignancy.
Beautifully written: the feelings of a child and the whole atmosphere of childhood became back to me as I was living it again, even though my childhood was "normal". Hirvonen clearly has ability to catch the universality of childhood traumas: how small they might be, everyone carries them through their lives.
Connections to a certain time (911 and other clues) seems stiff at times, although I could see the point in it. Also the "litterature-student-falling-in-love-and-what-problems-it-causes" -theme is just overly-used in Finnish 21st century litterature (by around 30-year-old writers at least) and feels like an easy way to deliver the main message.
Connections to a certain time (911 and other clues) seems stiff at times, although I could see the point in it. Also the "litterature-student-falling-in-love-and-what-problems-it-causes" -theme is just overly-used in Finnish 21st century litterature (by around 30-year-old writers at least) and feels like an easy way to deliver the main message.
Easy to forget "When I Forgot." It's about a woman's fear of confronting her brother in a hospital, but that imaginative absence is not imagined in an especially painful or affecting way.
When I forgot is a story about a young journalist living around the time of the world trade center attacks. Throughout the story she retells events of her past involving her family and her mentally ill brother while also reaching out to her professor Ian and allowing him to open up and share the hard truth about his past involving his father. I found myself drawn to this book from the first page all the way to the last page and once I started reading it I was unable to put it down. I feel that Elina Hirvonen did an amazing job telling Anna’s story. It was a little bit confusing trying to differentiate between Ian’s life and Anna’s life but after the first few chapters it became easier. I feel that even with the sadness that the show more story revolves around Elina did a good job of keeping the book from getting too depressing. I felt it was a very good book and I will be sure to recommend it to all my friends. show less
3.5
I liked this book, it was a really good look into the past and how it affects us, the memories which stay with us.
I liked the way the story was told, weaving together different stories all from one narrator.
Full review on my blog http://www.thebooktower.webs.com
I liked this book, it was a really good look into the past and how it affects us, the memories which stay with us.
I liked the way the story was told, weaving together different stories all from one narrator.
Full review on my blog http://www.thebooktower.webs.com
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What is most remarkable about this novel, aside from its honest, simple prose and compelling storyline (it's difficult to stop reading), is that Hirvonen maintains a real sense of optimism throughout this meditation on love and war.
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Potent, fragile and tender, “When I Forgot” is really the story of “When I Remembered,” of a woman summoning the courage to unlock her memories and share them, and feeling the relief of exhaling a breath held too long.
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Finlandia Prize Nominee
262 works; 3 members
Author Information
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Common Knowledge
- Original title
- Että hän muistaisi saman
- Original publication date
- 2005
- People/Characters
- Anna Louhinniitty; Joona Louhinniitty; Ian Brown
- Epigraph
- Canst thou, O cruel! say I love thee not,
When I against myself with thee partake?
Do I not think on thee, when I forgot
Am of myself, all tyrant, for thy sake?
Who hateth thee that I do call my friend?
On whom... (show all) frown'st thou that I do fawn upon?
Nay, if thou lour'st on me, do I not spend
Revenge upon myself with present moan?
What merit do I in myself respect,
That is so proud thy service to despise,
When all my best doth worship thy defect,
Commanded by the motion of thine eyes?
But, love, hate on, for now I know thy mind;
Those that can see thou lov'st, and I am blind.
William Shakespeare, Sonnet 149
To the end I felt pity that he was a child.
He should have been a cloud.
The kind birds hide in
when they're afraid.
Miltos Sachtouris - First words
- I'm happy because I have a steam engine (that works).
- Last words
- (Click to show. Warning: May contain spoilers.)I'm waiting for the pain to start. From somewhere the thought comes to me: what if it doesn't come? Maybe it won't come tonight. Your brother, Joona
- Original language
- Finnish
Classifications
- Genres
- General Fiction, Fiction and Literature
- DDC/MDS
- 894.54134 — Literature & rhetoric Literatures of other languages Literatures of Altaic, Uralic, Hyperborean, Dravidian languages; literatures of miscellaneous languages of south Asia Finno-Ugric languages Finnic languages Finnish Finnish fiction 2000–
- LCC
- PH356 .H578 .E8813 — Language and Literature Uralic languages. Basque language Uralic. Basque Finnish
- BISAC
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- Reviews
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- Rating
- (3.60)
- Languages
- 8 — English, Estonian, Finnish, German, Hungarian, Italian, Polish, Swedish
- Media
- Paper, Ebook
- ISBNs
- 14
- ASINs
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