Anyone read any Anti Climate Change stuff recently

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Anyone read any Anti Climate Change stuff recently

1maggie1944
Aug 4, 2011, 10:32 am

I know the scientists are not publically stating that the heat in the US of A is linked to the feared, and debated, Climate Change; but, I am curious if there are any left who say "what global warming"?

2pgmcc
Aug 4, 2011, 10:38 am

This could be a very exciting thread. I think I will sit comfortably in my seat overlooking arena and observe the proceedings.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

3drneutron
Aug 4, 2011, 11:13 am

I'm convinced that climate change exists and that a large part of what we're seeing is due to human activity. But I also think there are other reasons for taking action that are just as good. For instance, moving to renewable energy generation like solar and wind makes sense for reducing our dependence on a resource that will eventually run out, will help our economy, and will make us less dependent on other nations that don't always have our best interests at heart - in addition to the impact on reducing climate change. It seems like these changes are mostly win-win, unless you're a big oil company trying to preserve your market (although, why they haven't jumped into the renewable market is beyond my simple mind).

Interestingly, NPR had a short blurb on Morning Edition on my way to work. They interviewed a scientist (who's name I don't recall) that said the weather pattern is due to the La Nina event of last year, but that the severity is 'most certainly' related to climate change. No evidence was offered in the very short story. I believe that the first statement is consistent with previous patterns like this and that there's both theory and measurements to support this. The second statement is pretty squishy and isn't verifiable since it's opinion offered without support. As a counter, we have about 150 years of good temperature data in the US, and it's well known that weather cycles happen in time scales greater than that time. The fact that we're setting records this summer may just simply be that we're at the peak of a cycle with timescale longer than we've been taking data. Not saying either is true, just that attributing cause to any particular weather event is a tough problem.

4maggie1944
Aug 4, 2011, 7:23 pm

Oh, Dr Newt, you are just so careful, scientific, and rational! No fun, at all. I want someone to offer proof that we are not to blame, that we can drive our little gas guzzlers for as long as we want... Oh, no, I don't. I actually want someone to say, "we told you so! Get off your duff and reduce your carbon footprint as soon as you can." Tough duty while surviving our local, not pleasant, on going recession! But it must be done.

5drneutron
Aug 4, 2011, 8:02 pm

Sorry, I'll try to stir the pot better next time! :)

6maggie1944
Aug 4, 2011, 8:49 pm

"More shall be revealed....

7pgmcc
Aug 5, 2011, 3:35 am

At dinner last evening my eldest son said that China was refusing to sign any international agreements on carbon emissions until Western countries agree to sign an agreement restricting the number of children people can have.

It's always nice to get a different perspective on the world.

8maggie1944
Aug 5, 2011, 7:48 am

Ah, is the birth rate in the "western countries" high? My knowledge is probably very dated but I thought birth rates were more a problem in China, India, and their neighbors. But maybe Western populations could pledge to have fewer automobiles. We could try one car per family again.