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2tiffin
It sure was...couldn't see the last comment(s) as the thread kept jumping as it loaded pics! Glad you started a new one.
3qebo
O...M...G... LOOK WHAT'S ON MY MILKWEED! It's a baby Monarch!


ETA: Monarch life cycle: http://www.monarchbutterflyusa.com/Cycle.htm
My caterpillar obviously did not spontaneously generate at an inch plus; apparently I've been unobservant. I'll look for others later.
Original post: 1 August 2012
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ETA: Monarch life cycle: http://www.monarchbutterflyusa.com/Cycle.htm
My caterpillar obviously did not spontaneously generate at an inch plus; apparently I've been unobservant. I'll look for others later.
Original post: 1 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
5qebo
On the butterfly bush at the same time: Monarch, Painted Lady, Silver Spotted Skipper, two Red Admirals.
And fluttering around the yard a few minutes later: a female Black Swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes), which landed on the anise, appropriately, because its host plants are in the parsley family.

qebo = 12
SqueakyChu = 5
Original post: 1 August 2012
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And fluttering around the yard a few minutes later: a female Black Swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes), which landed on the anise, appropriately, because its host plants are in the parsley family.

qebo = 12
SqueakyChu = 5
Original post: 1 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
6tardis
So jealous of all the butterflies that both you and SqueakyChu are showcasing. We don't have nearly the variety.
7qebo
I would've sworn that I didn't have the variety either. Maybe I didn't before this year? I hadn't paid much attention. I have the advantage of working at home, so I can step into the yard for a few minutes any time, and it's seeming that mid day is when the butterflies are around. The butterfly bush is doing its part, but there's also lots of activity around the milkweeds: along with butterflies checking out the flowers, all sorts of bees and wasps and flies are wallowing in and buzzing around, mostly too small to photograph. This morning a line of ants was marching up a milkweed stem and carrying down tiny white dots into the mulch outside the circle.
8tiffin
Were they stealing monarch eggs (doesn't know much about monarchs)(even though I have loads of them here).
9SqueakyChu
Wow, Katherine! I am truly impressed.
I think both you and I have made the point that, "if you build it, they will come". It's in this way that we each are helping our own local area to improve it's ecosystem by changing our garden to include more native plants.
Sadly, in the area where I live, I think more of our ecosystem is being destroyed rather than being built up. In my own garden, though, I can help improve it.
I think both you and I have made the point that, "if you build it, they will come". It's in this way that we each are helping our own local area to improve it's ecosystem by changing our garden to include more native plants.
Sadly, in the area where I live, I think more of our ecosystem is being destroyed rather than being built up. In my own garden, though, I can help improve it.
10qebo
I am amazed. I keep going outside to check on my caterpillar. It's been roaming onto different leaves, and is still there this morning. The monarch has been around several times, most recently yesterday. I've checked the milkweeds for other caterpillars, and I'm seeing nothing, but this may not mean much.
12NorthernStar
Wow, it's quite spectacular! How big is it? I've never seen a monarch caterpillar in real life. I was fortunate enough to see some of the butterflies hibernating in California once.
14qebo
It's about an inch and a half long. I think not full size. It's voracious. The leaf disappears as I watch. 5th instar I think, from this description: http://www.mymonarchguide.com/2008/08/life-stages-determining-instars.html. It's really getting around. Took awhile to find it this evening.
16SqueakyChu
I don't think I'll go out in my garden. I'll just sit here and watch the parade of your butterfly pictures. They're marvelous!!
Well you have your baby, and I have mine. One baby wren poked his head out of the birdhouse this morning. It was so cute! I have a feeling that within a day or two all of the babies in there will be gone.
Love the pic of the monarch butterfly!
Well you have your baby, and I have mine. One baby wren poked his head out of the birdhouse this morning. It was so cute! I have a feeling that within a day or two all of the babies in there will be gone.
Love the pic of the monarch butterfly!
17qebo
Aw, sweet! Yeah, you better stay put. They grow up quickly, and I gather the last bunch slipped out of the nest without saying goodbye.
18janemarieprice
Frequent lurker in this group, but I wanted to pop up to say how cool the baby monarch is!
19qebo
Where is my baby? Last seen around 7pm yesterday...
Sez the internet: "Your caterpillars, if they were really big (as in over 1" long) probably are ready to pupate! When caterpillars are ready to pupate, they will often leave their host plant (the plant that they eat) to find a nice, peaceful spot. Many times, that spot may be WAY far away from where they were eating! Check around about up to 30-feet away."
That would be my entire back yard...
Sez the internet: "Your caterpillars, if they were really big (as in over 1" long) probably are ready to pupate! When caterpillars are ready to pupate, they will often leave their host plant (the plant that they eat) to find a nice, peaceful spot. Many times, that spot may be WAY far away from where they were eating! Check around about up to 30-feet away."
That would be my entire back yard...
20SqueakyChu
Next time, put him in a jar!
21qebo
I don't know what counts as "a nice, peaceful spot" in the mind of a caterpillar. Does it pick a direction at random and keep going until it hits something? How far can a caterpillar see? I am encouraged that the / a monarch has been flitting about on the milkweeds for several days straight, so maybe there will be more caterpillars.
22fuzzi
(15) qebo, I've only posted four butterfly pictures, but could you include me in the butterfly count? :)
23SqueakyChu
Katherine, weren't you going to start a separate thread for the butterfly count?
25qebo
OK, I've set up a butterfly competition thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/140576. I'll post mine later.
26qebo
More about where the caterpillars go: http://monarchwatch.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=265
I'm still looking...
I'm still looking...
27qebo
The monarch that has been visiting recently is a boy. :-( Photo from this morning, also have another from a few days ago.
How to tell: http://www.monarchwatch.org/biology/sexing.htm

Original post: 4 August 2012
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How to tell: http://www.monarchwatch.org/biology/sexing.htm

Original post: 4 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
29qebo
I walked along the fence peering under the top and middle horizontal strips, especially near the posts, then went inside to get a tool for peering under the bottom strip (OK, yes, I have been rather obsessed about this all day).

On my way across the deck to the yard, I tested the mirror by peering under the interior of the railing, yup, works as expected, walked down the steps, glanced across the exterior of the railing, and there I FOUND MY BABY! This is indeed about 30 feet from the milkweed.

Don’t see it? Here.

Seems vulnerable.
Original post: 4 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.

On my way across the deck to the yard, I tested the mirror by peering under the interior of the railing, yup, works as expected, walked down the steps, glanced across the exterior of the railing, and there I FOUND MY BABY! This is indeed about 30 feet from the milkweed.

Don’t see it? Here.

Seems vulnerable.
Original post: 4 August 2012
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30SqueakyChu
I can't believe you found him! It looks as if he's hanging to form his chrysalis!
31qebo
30: Yup. It did exactly what it's supposed to do, leave the host plant and find a sheltered spot. I'm amazed that it ended up all the way over here. Did it see posts from afar? Did it choose a direction at random, which happened to be the one direction that wouldn't hit the fence in a quarter or half the distance? I so wish I'd seen it traveling across the yard.
33SqueakyChu
Keep taking pictures of it. How long until it turns into a butterfly?
34qebo
About two weeks, and toward the end the case becomes transparent. I'm figuring on a photo each morning and evening.
36SqueakyChu
Fun!! Thanks!
41SqueakyChu
That is amazing!!
I didn't know that the chrysalis was "inside" the caterpillar. I always thought that the chrysalis was somehow formed "around" the caterpillar. So I see that the only protective covering formed on the "outside" of some caterpillars is a cocoon which would cover the chrysalis.
I didn't know that the chrysalis was "inside" the caterpillar. I always thought that the chrysalis was somehow formed "around" the caterpillar. So I see that the only protective covering formed on the "outside" of some caterpillars is a cocoon which would cover the chrysalis.
43SqueakyChu
Even more fascinating! I want some in my yard!!
44streamsong
Wow! I've always imagined it to be like SqueakyChu did.
This is wonderful--thanks so much for posting. I also think it's amazing that you found your small friend!
This is wonderful--thanks so much for posting. I also think it's amazing that you found your small friend!
46SqueakyChu
you can buy caterpillars
Isn't that cheating? :)
Isn't that cheating? :)
47qebo
46: Maybe you have to teach a generation where the milkweed is. But then you are obligated to provide an adequate supply. So yes, troubling, because if monarchs aren't finding your milkweed, then maybe there's not enough in the vicinity to support a population.
48SqueakyChu
So yes, troubling, because if monarchs aren't finding your milkweed, then maybe there's not enough in the vicinity to support a population.
I'm sure that's the case.
My native plant idea is to buy lots of varieties, not mainly milkweed. I more interested in seeing what native plants arttracts which species.
I'm sure that's the case.
My native plant idea is to buy lots of varieties, not mainly milkweed. I more interested in seeing what native plants arttracts which species.
49qebo
Sat on the deck steps today watching this Variegated Fritillary caterpillar munch on violet leaves. I saw one awhile back in the side yard, once and never again. Lots of violets in the back yard, in a fairly contained area, but I’ve ruffled through a few times and found nothing but pill bugs and millipedes. Now on the alert for a Variegated Fritillary chrysalis.


ETA: Now I see two of them.
Original post: 5 August 2012
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ETA: Now I see two of them.
Original post: 5 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
50qebo
48: My native plant idea is to buy lots of varieties, not mainly milkweed.
Sensible. I've only focused on the milkweed because it has yielded results. The community garden a few blocks from my house is in a field with large patches of milkweed, so the monarchs are already in the vicinity.
Sensible. I've only focused on the milkweed because it has yielded results. The community garden a few blocks from my house is in a field with large patches of milkweed, so the monarchs are already in the vicinity.
51SqueakyChu
I've never seen a caterplillar that looks like that. I wouldn't even know where to start looking in my yard for a chrysalis. I guess the first thing I'd have to do is identify what a tiger swallowtail chrysalis looks like as that seems to be my most abundant butterfly. Well, I guess the very first thing I'd have to do is be sure there was at least one of those caterpillars in my yard.
This was an anise swallowtail caterpillar I found on my parsley plant back in 2008.
This was an anise swallowtail caterpillar I found on my parsley plant back in 2008.
52qebo
I've been checking my anise and parsley since I saw a swallowtail on the anise, but so far no sign. I have an extra dense crop of violets this year. I began a policy of removing not-violets from the patch near the compost bin in the spring, and the violets happily responded with population growth and expansion.
54SqueakyChu
It looks a little wet, though! :)
56SqueakyChu
They have pretty tough glue! :)
58qebo
For the record, photographed the monarch chrysalis this morning, but there’s no discernible change, except it's drier, so I won’t clutter my thread.
While I was out there, I happened to catch a skipper bouncing around on the deck. Tentatively identifying it as a male Zabulon Skipper (Poanes zabulon).
ETA: Or a male Hobomok Skipper?

qebo = 14
Original post: 6 August 2012
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While I was out there, I happened to catch a skipper bouncing around on the deck. Tentatively identifying it as a male Zabulon Skipper (Poanes zabulon).
ETA: Or a male Hobomok Skipper?

qebo = 14
Original post: 6 August 2012
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59qebo
Awhile later, I watched the black swallowtail make the rounds of parsley and anise, beating wings too quickly for photos. I turned around, and there on the butterfly bush was a Question Mark (Polygonia interrogationis). The photo is blurry because the wind was blowing and the butterfly opened its wings only a few times briefly.


qebo = 15
Original post: 6 August 2012
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qebo = 15
Original post: 6 August 2012
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60qebo
Today on the violets, a Variegated Fritillary caterpillar, possibly one that I saw yesterday, about 1-1/2" long, and two small VF caterpillars, about 1/2" long.
61SqueakyChu
I still can't photograph a cabbage white. They always land with their wings parallel to where I'm standing and keep them closed the whole time! :(
62fuzzi
They're stinkers, SqueakyChu!
The butterflies I've photographed just won't settle down in one place...I have literally chased them all over the yard until they got tired (I guess) and stopped just long enough for me to get a picture.
The butterflies I've photographed just won't settle down in one place...I have literally chased them all over the yard until they got tired (I guess) and stopped just long enough for me to get a picture.
63SqueakyChu
.I have literally chased them all over the yard until they got tired (I guess)
Now that's an idea!
Now that's an idea!
66SqueakyChu
> 64
We're going to rename your garden "Caterpillar Haven". See how much fun it is to have native plants?! :)
We're going to rename your garden "Caterpillar Haven". See how much fun it is to have native plants?! :)
67qebo
66: See how much fun it is to have native plants?!
I'm already considering what to plant next year for more caterpillars.
Another Variegated Fritillary caterpillar on the violets this morning, about 3/4".
No discernible change in the chrysalis.
I'm already considering what to plant next year for more caterpillars.
Another Variegated Fritillary caterpillar on the violets this morning, about 3/4".
No discernible change in the chrysalis.
68SqueakyChu
No discernible change in the chrysalis.
Thanks for the update. Even if I had a chrysalis in my yard, I'm sure I'd never be able to find it!
Your garden is a veritable caterpillary nursery! :)
Thanks for the update. Even if I had a chrysalis in my yard, I'm sure I'd never be able to find it!
Your garden is a veritable caterpillary nursery! :)
69tiffin
I just love that you hunted around with a mirror until you found "your baby"! We're hanging on its every move now.
70fuzzi
How's baby doing today? Inquiring minds want to know...
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
71qebo
70: Baby looks the same, so far as I can tell. I check throughout the day. I'll report as soon as I see a change.
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
Credit goes to SqueakyChu, who whose review of Bringing Nature Home last year inspired me to buy it, so it was on hand as gardening season approached this year.
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
Credit goes to SqueakyChu, who whose review of Bringing Nature Home last year inspired me to buy it, so it was on hand as gardening season approached this year.
72SqueakyChu
> 70
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
Hooray!
If you haven't read Tallamy's book (see message #71), read it now. In fact, bring it to the beach in case fishing is slow! :)
I think I want to own a copy of that book. It's very thought-provoking and aslo has a wealth of great information related to why native species are so important.
You've inspired me, I think I'm going to look into more of a butterfly friendly garden next year.
Hooray!
If you haven't read Tallamy's book (see message #71), read it now. In fact, bring it to the beach in case fishing is slow! :)
I think I want to own a copy of that book. It's very thought-provoking and aslo has a wealth of great information related to why native species are so important.
73fuzzi
I put it on my wishlist.
I just did a search on our public library website, and all I could find, aside from a couple fieldguides was juvenile picture books.
Either their search stinks or their selection does...
I just did a search on our public library website, and all I could find, aside from a couple fieldguides was juvenile picture books.
Either their search stinks or their selection does...
74qebo
Status quo for the monarch chrysalis. Saw two small Variegated Fritillary caterpillars today, I'd suppose the same ones as before. Did not see the two large ones. Found what may be swallowtail eggs on the dill. Have photos of two unidentified small moths and a skipper. Also of plants. Remember the plants? Will post photos soonish.
75qebo
I’m way behind here... have plant and critter photos to organize and post, but for now, monarch news. 1) My baby is still hanging in there. And 2) maybe more on the way! Today TWO female monarchs were flitting around at the same time. The male I’d seen a bunch of times had been landing on milkweed flowers. The females land lower, on milkweed leaves. I got photos of both to verify female, and happened to catch one in the act of laying eggs.

So I looked for eggs. They’re not easy to find, with leaves overlapping and sunlight and shadows. I found about a half dozen, never more than one egg per leaf, zoomed in to compare them to internet photos of monarch eggs.


Original post: 10 August 2012
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So I looked for eggs. They’re not easy to find, with leaves overlapping and sunlight and shadows. I found about a half dozen, never more than one egg per leaf, zoomed in to compare them to internet photos of monarch eggs.


Original post: 10 August 2012
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76SqueakyChu
A nursery!
(No pun intended!)
(No pun intended!)
78fuzzi
(76) And appropriately enough, the eggs will hatch on the MILKweed plant, where they will imbibe proper nouishment for baby Monarchs...
79SqueakyChu
> 77
Now that is one interesting-looking insect!
*still chasing the cabbage white butterfly with my camera*
Now that is one interesting-looking insect!
*still chasing the cabbage white butterfly with my camera*
80qebo
Found a bunch more Monarch eggs this morning in cloudy daylight. For example:

Ever since the visit from the Black Swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes), who appeared to be laying eggs on the anise, I’ve been looking for caterpillars. Several days ago I saw eggs on the dill (one at the center of this photo).

Yesterday the eggs were gone. Washed away by rain? Hatched and the caterpillars are tiny? Remaining optimistic, I looked around again this morning, and found a caterpillar!

The anise is Pimpinella anisum. The dill is Anethum graveolen. Both are native to the Mediterranean region, but what the Black Swallowtail cares about is Apiaceae family. The plants are rather pathetic. I neglected the raised beds while I was constructing the circle, not much sprouted, and I haven’t been tending. The dill is a volunteer from seeds produced by the substantial crop last year.

I see a few Variegated Fritillary caterpillars each time I check closely. I haven’t seen the two largest recently, so I suppose they’ve gone off to pupate. The violet patch is next to the deck with a vast crawl space and the fence with a gap at the bottom, so chances of finding them are low.
Original post: 11 August 2012
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Ever since the visit from the Black Swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes), who appeared to be laying eggs on the anise, I’ve been looking for caterpillars. Several days ago I saw eggs on the dill (one at the center of this photo).

Yesterday the eggs were gone. Washed away by rain? Hatched and the caterpillars are tiny? Remaining optimistic, I looked around again this morning, and found a caterpillar!

The anise is Pimpinella anisum. The dill is Anethum graveolen. Both are native to the Mediterranean region, but what the Black Swallowtail cares about is Apiaceae family. The plants are rather pathetic. I neglected the raised beds while I was constructing the circle, not much sprouted, and I haven’t been tending. The dill is a volunteer from seeds produced by the substantial crop last year.

I see a few Variegated Fritillary caterpillars each time I check closely. I haven’t seen the two largest recently, so I suppose they’ve gone off to pupate. The violet patch is next to the deck with a vast crawl space and the fence with a gap at the bottom, so chances of finding them are low.
Original post: 11 August 2012
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81SqueakyChu
Hey, Katherine. Pretty soon you'll be able to start charging an admission fee to your wildlife sanctuary! It's really fun to follow along with all of your discoveries...and learn about these critters as well.
82qebo
Better photos of a Cabbage White (Pieris rapae) female from a few days ago:


The plant is Creeping Woodsorrel (Oxalis corniculata) native to Europe. I’ve been letting it proliferate as ground cover because I like it and don’t have anything better.
Original post: 11 August 2012
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The plant is Creeping Woodsorrel (Oxalis corniculata) native to Europe. I’ve been letting it proliferate as ground cover because I like it and don’t have anything better.
Original post: 11 August 2012
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83qebo
I was wondering what the deal is with the Black Swallowtail, which is a native American butterfly, and the frequently noted host plants of anise, dill, parsley, which are not native. Well, someone else had the same question, and researched the answer: http://www.ecosystemgardening.com/what-did-black-swallowtails-eat-before-we-brou....
84SqueakyChu
The last time I (maybe?) had a Black wallowtail caterpillar in my garden was in 2008. It had been on a parsley plant. This is my photograph of that critter. That was before my "native plant frenzy" began. :)

I was told that this was an anise swallowtail caterpillar. Was it really a black swallowtail caterpillar?

I was told that this was an anise swallowtail caterpillar. Was it really a black swallowtail caterpillar?
85tiffin
I can't tell any of the caterpillars apart, wouldn't recognise an egg if it bit me and think you guys are a heady combination of loopy and wonderful. For butterflies, I at least have a reference book!
86qebo
84: Internet images for Anise Swallowtail and Black Swallowtail caterpillars look similar. I actually observed a Black Swallowtail laying eggs on my anise, so I'm supposing that's what it is.
87qebo
More Black Swallowtail hosts: http://melanys.tripod.com/black_swallowtail.htm .
Apparently native to Pennsylvania:
Spotted Water Hemlock (Cicuta maculata) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicuta_maculata), but it is toxic, was also known as Suicide Root by the Iroquois.
Mock Bishopsweed or Herbwilliam (Ptilimnium capillaceum) (http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/bfly/bfly2/eastern_black_swallowtail13.htm , http://www.regionalconservation.org/beta/nfyn/plantdetail.asp?tx=Ptilcapi), but it wants continuously moist soil.
Golden Alexander (Zizia aurea) (http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ZIAU , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizia_aurea) may be the best bet, prefers moist but can survive dry.
Apparently native to Pennsylvania:
Spotted Water Hemlock (Cicuta maculata) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cicuta_maculata), but it is toxic, was also known as Suicide Root by the Iroquois.
Mock Bishopsweed or Herbwilliam (Ptilimnium capillaceum) (http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/bfly/bfly2/eastern_black_swallowtail13.htm , http://www.regionalconservation.org/beta/nfyn/plantdetail.asp?tx=Ptilcapi), but it wants continuously moist soil.
Golden Alexander (Zizia aurea) (http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=ZIAU , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zizia_aurea) may be the best bet, prefers moist but can survive dry.
88fuzzi
I also read about the Golden Alexanders (Zizea aurea), and they sound like a possible addition next year.
89qebo
Bunch of butterflies today: Cabage White, Red Admiral, Variegated Fritillary, Eastern Tailed-Blue, all seen before. Then a new one, a little dark thing, seeming rather focused on the false indigo, which doesn’t have any flowers. Hmm, in my vast experience of a week or so, that’s egg laying behavior. It wasn’t staying put, so I directed the camera toward the plant and snapped, hoping that one shot or another would catch it. Yes! Not only the butterfly, but an egg. Wild Indigo Duskywing (Erynnis baptisiae) female.

qebo = 17
Original post: 12 August 2012
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qebo = 17
Original post: 12 August 2012
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90fuzzi
17????
:throws in the towel:
Good picture.
I'm afraid I can't catch up to you, but I'll keep posting my butterfly pictures as I take and identify them.
:throws in the towel:
Good picture.
I'm afraid I can't catch up to you, but I'll keep posting my butterfly pictures as I take and identify them.
91qebo
Things are happening... I noticed a darkish patch on the chrysalis late this afternoon, took a photo but it didn’t look different enough to be sure. Figured I should check again before dark. Taking into account dusk and shadows and flash, now I’m sure.

Original post: 12 August 2012
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Original post: 12 August 2012
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92qebo
90: 17???? :throws in the towel:
And three more as yet unidentified, a skipper and two moths. :-)
No towel throwing! You got started later.
Today in caterpillars: saw the Black Swallowtail caterpillar on the anise again, and three sizes of Variegated Fritillary caterpillar.
And three more as yet unidentified, a skipper and two moths. :-)
No towel throwing! You got started later.
Today in caterpillars: saw the Black Swallowtail caterpillar on the anise again, and three sizes of Variegated Fritillary caterpillar.
93fuzzi
(91) That's a great picture! I can see the wing pattern through the 'skin' of the chrysalis!
Still more rain here, too wet for butterflies. However, I saw a Sleepy Orange flitting around the parking lot at church this afternoon, and identified it for my dh.
He was patient with me... ;)
Still more rain here, too wet for butterflies. However, I saw a Sleepy Orange flitting around the parking lot at church this afternoon, and identified it for my dh.
He was patient with me... ;)
95lauralkeet
Checking in, joining Team Qebo Butterfly Watch. This is an amazing thread, now starred for future reference!
98qebo
Well, that was quick. I finished a small task for work, checked around 9:30, chrysalis looked the same. I finished another small task for work, checked again around 10:30, and the butterfly was out, hanging onto the chrysalis, occasionally testing its wings, but they were floppy. I had a conference call at 11:00, so I got a clipboard and pen, set up a chair six feet away from the chrysalis, and multitasked. Fortunately, not much happened while I was on the phone, but shortly afterward, around noon, the butterfly began flapping its wings, walked away from the chrysalis onto the railing, glided onto the deck, stumbled around. I went inside for a few minutes, returned, and the butterfly was gone. It's a girl.




Original post: 13 August 2012
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Original post: 13 August 2012
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99qebo
Checked some of the eggs on the milkweed, hmm, not seeing them... Hatched? Yes! Here’s a 1st instar caterpillar, blurry because I was holding the leaf with one hand and operating the camera with the other while the wind was blowing. I’ll try for a better shot later.

Original post: 13 August 2012
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Original post: 13 August 2012
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100rebeccanyc
Cool about the butterfly, and I'll bite! How do you know it's a girl?
101lauralkeet
Oh my, it's like a miracle. I mean, I know it happens all the time, but it's amazing every time. How lucky that you were there to capture the moment!
Ditto Rebecca's question.
Ditto Rebecca's question.
102qebo
100,101: See post 27.
I mean, I know it happens all the time, but it's amazing every time.
Yeah. Butterflies have been doing this for awhile, but I've felt responsible for this one, so I've been worrying about it for the two weeks since I noticed it on a milkweed leaf.
I mean, I know it happens all the time, but it's amazing every time.
Yeah. Butterflies have been doing this for awhile, but I've felt responsible for this one, so I've been worrying about it for the two weeks since I noticed it on a milkweed leaf.
103labfs39
Congratulations! Katie and I have been following the exciting developments. She thinks you are amazing. Her hero!
104qebo
I saw this skipper several days ago, and around the same time saw the one I’d identified as a Zabulon Skipper. Took a bunch of photos of each, and I'm sure they're different. This one sure seems to be a Fiery Skipper (Hylephila phyleus) male. I’m not seeing any other skipper with similar wing pattern. But, the Hobomok and Zabulon Skippers are very similar, and I’m not sure which mine was, so I've changed the identification on the butterfly thread accordingly.


qebo = 18
Original post: 13 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.


qebo = 18
Original post: 13 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
106rebeccanyc
#102 and 27. Wow! The things I never knew!
110lauralkeet
>27 qebo:: aha! very cool!
113qebo
112: Ah, yes. They live in the compost bin, flutter out when I open the lid. Thanks! (You do realize this increases the count...)
118qebo
117: I have put no effort whatsoever into identifying the moths, figured if I put them directly in front of my eyes I'd get motivated. No need for others to do my work.
119qebo
Rain this morning. Wandered into the yard after it stopped, and there were eight! Variegated Fritillary caterpillars out on the violets. Various sizes. Photos later...
120qebo
I’ve seen this one around, a little orange thing that wouldn’t stay put, but today I happened to catch it lounging. Surprisingly, didn’t take long to identify. I’ve added a useful link to the first post: the Bug Guide moth identification begins with silhouettes of the various families, and googling “orange geometrid moth” got matching images. It is a Chickweed Geometer Haematopis grataria.

qebo = 19
Original post: 15 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.

qebo = 19
Original post: 15 August 2012
Edited to change photo source.
121qebo
I haven't disappeared... I got myself into a major photo reorganization. One consequence is that I'm moving the photos I'd linked on my garden threads, to Flickr (where I've had an account for several years) from Photobucket (where I set up an account recently specifically for this group, but which has become troublesome to maintain -- no fault of Photobucket, but I've been posting far more than I'd anticipated, and there's too much stuff in too many places to keep straight in my mind). I could leave the thread links as is, but the mess would irritate me.
122fuzzi
@qebo, I load most of my pictures to be shared here in my LT member gallery.
For my family, I use a Shutterfly account.
For my family, I use a Shutterfly account.
123qebo
122: Yeah, I'd started doing that, but the LT gallery is awkward in comparison to a dedicated photo sharing site. I tried Photobucket partly out of curiosity, and partly to keep LT stuff separate, but it's turning out that I want to get organized, and it's easier to get organized where I already am.
124SqueakyChu
> 90
17????
:throws in the towel:
LOL!!
What was funny was that, at the beach, I only saw one kind of yellow butterfly. I saw it everywhere. Do you think even one of them would land so I could take a picture? Of course not! :)
17????
:throws in the towel:
LOL!!
What was funny was that, at the beach, I only saw one kind of yellow butterfly. I saw it everywhere. Do you think even one of them would land so I could take a picture? Of course not! :)
125SqueakyChu
> 98
Wow!
Thanks for sharing those *amazing* pictures.
Wow!
Thanks for sharing those *amazing* pictures.
126SqueakyChu
> 99
1st instar caterpillar
I'm not sure I'd even be able to identify a 1st instar caterpillar! LOL!!
1st instar caterpillar
I'm not sure I'd even be able to identify a 1st instar caterpillar! LOL!!
127SqueakyChu
> 121
I really like using Flickr (and take special advantage of the Creative Commons license for using photos of others for various porjects). I do have a paid membership there which I feel is well worth the money.
I really like using Flickr (and take special advantage of the Creative Commons license for using photos of others for various porjects). I do have a paid membership there which I feel is well worth the money.
128SqueakyChu
> 122
My older son made a very nice wedding photo album for his brother using the photo upload on Shutterfly from his photos on Flickr. Photography is one of his hobbies.
My older son made a very nice wedding photo album for his brother using the photo upload on Shutterfly from his photos on Flickr. Photography is one of his hobbies.
129qebo
Catching up here...
The day I was sitting in the yard watching the monarch emerge from the chrysalis, I saw a Variegated Fritillary butterfly laying eggs on the violets.

After rain the next morning, I saw 8! Variegated Fritillary caterpillars at the same time. Here are three. With so many caterpillars, I’m hopeful of one day finding a chrysalis, but so far no luck. I suspect they go under the deck.

Here is the vast field of violets . For scale, the square blocks are 12”x12”.

The day I was sitting in the yard watching the monarch emerge from the chrysalis, I saw a Variegated Fritillary butterfly laying eggs on the violets.

After rain the next morning, I saw 8! Variegated Fritillary caterpillars at the same time. Here are three. With so many caterpillars, I’m hopeful of one day finding a chrysalis, but so far no luck. I suspect they go under the deck.

Here is the vast field of violets . For scale, the square blocks are 12”x12”.

130qebo
I’m finding monarch caterpillars on the milkweeds, though not every day, and not necessarily the same ones each day. Initially I’d look for small holes in the leaves and find tiny caterpillars underneath. This doesn’t seem an effective strategy once they’re older and wander around more. Here are three of increasing size, with my index finger for scale.






131qebo
I thought these were the same thing until I zoomed in (click through to Flickr).
This is apparently a batch of ladybug eggs.

This is a group of Oleander Aphids (Aphis nerii), apparently not critters that should be tolerated: http://www.mymonarchguide.com/2007/08/there-are-these-little-orange-things.html .

This is apparently a batch of ladybug eggs.

This is a group of Oleander Aphids (Aphis nerii), apparently not critters that should be tolerated: http://www.mymonarchguide.com/2007/08/there-are-these-little-orange-things.html .

132SqueakyChu
The only thing I have on my milkweeds are those aphids.
*grumble*
So how do I get rid of them?!
ETA: It seems that a hard spray of water should do the trick. I'll have to do that at the end of the week as I'm back off to work tomorrow.
*grumble*
So how do I get rid of them?!
ETA: It seems that a hard spray of water should do the trick. I'll have to do that at the end of the week as I'm back off to work tomorrow.
134SqueakyChu
That link above (in msg # 131) says *not* to use soapy water.
"Using soap, insecticidal soap, sprays, etc. will only coat the Milkweed with chemicals that can be potentially harmful to any Monarch caterpillar that might eat the leaves."
135qebo
I’ve seen this bug several times on the Joe Pye, and with my newly organized photos I was able to dedicate attention to it. I googled “bug orange head black wings” and images included Ctenucha virginica, which looked promising. I googled this specifically. Close but the wings are too wide. Another Ctenucha? No, other species are worse matches. I googled “Ctenucha virginica similar”, and got the Yellow Collared Scape moth (Cisseps fulvicollis). Yup, that’s the one. I had not expected it to be a moth. Its association with Joe Pye is recognized: http://pollinators.blogspot.com/2012/02/cisseps-fulvicolis-better-known-moth.htm... .

qebo = 20

qebo = 20
136SqueakyChu
Your garden has the most interesting assortment of moths and butterflies, many of which I've never seen.
Which have been your most sucessful native plants (other than the milkweeds) in attracting these lepidoptera?
Which have been your most sucessful native plants (other than the milkweeds) in attracting these lepidoptera?
137qebo
The butterfly bush is where I see most varieties, partly because it’s larger than anything else so they stick around for awhile, and partly because it’s right next to the deck for easy viewing. They’ll do the rounds of other plants too, but aside from the milkweed and Joe Pye, I have only one each of the native flowers, as experiments. I want to replace the butterfly bush with something native that will have the same effect plus host caterpillars, but I’m not yet sure what. This isn’t so much a matter of purging non-natives as of making room; the butterfly bush is occupying the only spot in the yard where a bush of its size can fit.
I am amazed at the variety, and wish I had kept track in previous years for comparison.
I am amazed at the variety, and wish I had kept track in previous years for comparison.
138tiffin
I think it helps that you are remarkably observant. Lots of folks might have some of this fauna but you SEE it.
139qebo
Monarchs in the local news:
http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/717720_Local-scientist-unravels-mysteri...

http://lancasteronline.com/article/local/717720_Local-scientist-unravels-mysteri...

140qebo
138: I work at home and work is driving me crazy, so I go outside with the camera for mental health breaks.
141qebo
Hanging out on the milkweed this morning.

Growing babies. The only Monarch and Black Swallowtail caterpillars I found today.


Still have lots of Variegated Fritillary. This one was walking back and forth at the edge of the deck, and I was hoping to see where it went. Alas, I had to go inside and work, and when I returned it was gone.

Hmm, what's this? I found three, all under bin rims.


Growing babies. The only Monarch and Black Swallowtail caterpillars I found today.


Still have lots of Variegated Fritillary. This one was walking back and forth at the edge of the deck, and I was hoping to see where it went. Alas, I had to go inside and work, and when I returned it was gone.

Hmm, what's this? I found three, all under bin rims.

142Morphidae
>141 qebo: What's the critter in the first pic?
145sibylline
I love the sound of the cicadas. This has been a relatively quiet year in Vermont and on the Cape too where some years they are deafening on a hot August day.
On the Cape the cabbage moths constantly fluttered around a juniper bush by the house which I thought was interesting.
On the Cape the cabbage moths constantly fluttered around a juniper bush by the house which I thought was interesting.
146qebo
Last week there were four Black Swallowtail caterpillars. This week I've seen only one. Today zero. Last week there were several Monarch caterpillars. In recent days only one. This morning it was on the same leaf as yesterday's photo. This afternoon the leaf had been partially chewed away, but I couldn't find the caterpillar. :-( Yesterday I watched a documentary film about butterflies that said only 1% of eggs make it to adulthood.
147NorthernStar
but maybe they've just made cocoons or chrysalis and are going to emerge as lovely butterflies :)
148SqueakyChu
> 146
1% of eggs make it to adulthood.
:(
> 147
but maybe they've just made cocoons or chrysalis and are going to emerge as lovely butterflies
Probably. But Katherine wants to know where they all are at all times! :)
1% of eggs make it to adulthood.
:(
> 147
but maybe they've just made cocoons or chrysalis and are going to emerge as lovely butterflies
Probably. But Katherine wants to know where they all are at all times! :)
149qebo
Another Black Swallowtail caterpillar disappeared when it was about the same size, an inch or so. Seems too small, but I should look this up. The recent Monarch caterpillar is about 5/8"-3/4", and the one that became a chrysalis was about 1-1/2". The larger Variegated Fritillary caterpillars are about 1-1/2".
150SqueakyChu
Birds could be eating them.
152SqueakyChu
*pictures a bird being poisoned to death*
So I've learned now that many insects (stink bugs, wasps, ambush bugs, for example) can eat monarchs without being poisoned.
So I've learned now that many insects (stink bugs, wasps, ambush bugs, for example) can eat monarchs without being poisoned.
153SqueakyChu
I thought my monarch caterpillar was dead because it wasn't moving (even when touched) this morning. This evening, however, he (or she) seems just fine!
154qebo
My Variegated Fritillary caterpillars sometimes stop moving for no apparent reason, like halfway across a paving stone, when I'd expect them to want to reach shelter. They can move a quite a clip when they want to though. The original Monarch caterpillar would remain in the same place for hours, and then next time I checked it'd be on the other side of the plant.
155sibylline
The Wild Snail writer, Eliz. Bailey was astonished by how fast her snail could hoof it (or should that be.... slime it....) when she wasn't looking.
156qebo
152: Ladybugs eat the eggs and the little caterpillars, I've read. I've seen lots of ladybugs, several varieties, on the milkweed. Also wasps. It's a dangerous world. :-(
155: I watched a VF caterpillar stroll for a couple of feet before it U-turned, and figured my Monarch could've gotten across the yard in half an hour, but I don't think of caterpillars and snails as linearly inclined.
155: I watched a VF caterpillar stroll for a couple of feet before it U-turned, and figured my Monarch could've gotten across the yard in half an hour, but I don't think of caterpillars and snails as linearly inclined.
157qebo
Monarch caterpillar still missing this morning but showed up this afternoon. Yay! Probably been there all along, but well hidden. It's about an inch long now. Still no sign of Black Swallowtail caterpillar.
158SqueakyChu
My monarch caterpillar is still around and moving very well. I'll be sad when he (she?) leaves.
159qebo
Mine is on the smallest milkweed plant, only a foot high, never bloomed. I hope it has enough leaves to feed the caterpillar to maturity. The larger milkweeds had more eggs, but maybe they also have more predators? This milkweed is so small, nobody bothers with it.
161lauralkeet
>160 fuzzi:: LOL!
162qebo
Here, have a squirrel, with a convenient package of sunflower seeds.

The decaying sunflowers.

And returning to our regularly scheduled program, the Black Swallowtail caterpillar reappeared this morning. Doesn’t say much for my powers of observation that it’s been lost for two days. It’s about 1-1/4” long now.

The decaying sunflowers.

And returning to our regularly scheduled program, the Black Swallowtail caterpillar reappeared this morning. Doesn’t say much for my powers of observation that it’s been lost for two days. It’s about 1-1/4” long now.
171Morphidae
>169 qebo: LOL!
172sibylline
Gettin' a bit racy around here. 169 - I immediately thought of a truly awful pun...... just give it a sec. and it'll come to you.
173qebo
Yesterday I weeded the front and side yards, with no remarkable discoveries. Of the native plants I put there a couple months ago, seems that most have survived but they’ve done their thing for the year and I’ll have to wait until next year for flowers. The white wood asters though are thriving and blooming, and are surrounded by a cloud of small bees, which I couldn’t get to pose for a photo.

There’s a tiny iridescent orange fly that I’ve been trying to photograph for awhile, and managed to get this morning while the bugs were waiting for warmth and sunshine. Its body is about 1/8”. It is maybe in the Dolichopodidae family.

The Monarch caterpillar has gone missing again, but there are several eggs, and two female Monarch butterflies were hanging around the milkweed.
The Black Swallowtail caterpillar has gone missing again too, but a half dozen more have appeared, and a female Black Swallowtail butterfly was around for several hours.


The Common Buckeye was back this morning.

Another visitor this morning, a mourning dove, which I haven’t seen in my yard before.

The wood sorrel is getting out of control, but the butterflies like the flowers, so I’m keeping it.

There’s a tiny iridescent orange fly that I’ve been trying to photograph for awhile, and managed to get this morning while the bugs were waiting for warmth and sunshine. Its body is about 1/8”. It is maybe in the Dolichopodidae family.

The Monarch caterpillar has gone missing again, but there are several eggs, and two female Monarch butterflies were hanging around the milkweed.
The Black Swallowtail caterpillar has gone missing again too, but a half dozen more have appeared, and a female Black Swallowtail butterfly was around for several hours.


The Common Buckeye was back this morning.

Another visitor this morning, a mourning dove, which I haven’t seen in my yard before.

The wood sorrel is getting out of control, but the butterflies like the flowers, so I’m keeping it.
174lauralkeet
I was outside for a while today and found myself paying much more attention to the butterflies, thanks to you!
175fuzzi
@lindsacl, I've started noticing butterflies everywhere I go...and it's all @qebo's fault! ;)
177SqueakyChu
I did?!
182SqueakyChu
> 179
I know. I was just kidding. Me and my ideas, eh?
Don't you just love identifying skippers?
What's been good about this adventure for me is that it finally prompted me to learn more about how to use my camera.
I know. I was just kidding. Me and my ideas, eh?
Don't you just love identifying skippers?
What's been good about this adventure for me is that it finally prompted me to learn more about how to use my camera.
183qebo
182: I know you know, but you sound so innocent that other people may need evidence.
It prompted me to get a better camera.
It prompted me to get a better camera.
186SqueakyChu
What happened?
189SqueakyChu
Now that's great news!
191qebo
Well here’s a new one for me. Possibly the Familiar Bluet damselfly (Enallagma civile). On the mountain mint, which is becoming quite the center of activity lately, since the nearby milkweed and Joe Pye are going to seed.

However, it is not benignly resting. It is a carnivorous predator.

I think what it has is one of these.

However, it is not benignly resting. It is a carnivorous predator.

I think what it has is one of these.
193fuzzi
Love seeing your progress, visitors, etc!
I'm inspired by the rest of you. I told my sister (who called me this evening on the phone) that I'm thinking of laying down a bunch of that landscaping plastic in the backyard, and going native next Spring, planting for butterflies and others. It would also mean less mowing, woo!
:thinkingthinkingthinking:
I'm inspired by the rest of you. I told my sister (who called me this evening on the phone) that I'm thinking of laying down a bunch of that landscaping plastic in the backyard, and going native next Spring, planting for butterflies and others. It would also mean less mowing, woo!
:thinkingthinkingthinking:
195qebo
I counted nine Black Swallowtail caterpillars again this morning. The two from two days ago have morphed into another instar phase. It's these two on one plant and seven on another.

And a new butterfly! The bright yellow caught my eye when I was in the kitchen making coffee. It’s a Clouded Sulphur (Colias philodice) male.

qebo = 26

And a new butterfly! The bright yellow caught my eye when I was in the kitchen making coffee. It’s a Clouded Sulphur (Colias philodice) male.

qebo = 26
196SqueakyChu
I just noticed today that two neighbors had pesticide applications put on their lawns this week. I wonder if that's affecting my wildlife. :(
198fuzzi
It probably would, @SqueakyChu. The stuff kills indiscriminately.
200SqueakyChu
Not really. They're not going to stop using pesticides because I don't like them. They use lawn services so they don't have to care for their own lawns. I see the little signs on the lawns whenever a pesticide application is made.
201qebo
Hah. One of the gazillion Variegated Fritillary caterpillars chrysalized in a convenient (to me) location. I don’t know how long it’s been there.


One of the Variegated Fritillary caterpillars was murdered yesterday.

The two Black Swallowtail caterpillars on the small dill were there this morning. A few hours later, one was gone. A few hours after that, the other was gone. Here they are yesterday morning.

Of the seven Black Swallowtail caterpillars on the large dill, one was murdered, and six remain.


One of the Variegated Fritillary caterpillars was murdered yesterday.

The two Black Swallowtail caterpillars on the small dill were there this morning. A few hours later, one was gone. A few hours after that, the other was gone. Here they are yesterday morning.

Of the seven Black Swallowtail caterpillars on the large dill, one was murdered, and six remain.
202SqueakyChu
What a cool chrysallis! Sorry about the murders, though. :(
204SqueakyChu
Wow, Katherine! Your garden has turned into a most amazing wildlife habitat!!
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