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1RitaFaye
. . . what other books would you suggest I give him as a gift? My sister is getting the kid the last 3 books from the Temeraire series, and I would like to start him on something else.
4suitable1
If you are okay with used books, I will suggest The Dragon and the George series by Gordon R. Dickson
5amysisson
Another suggestion if you're OK with used books (although you might be able to get them as new remainders from a place like Book Outlet? formerly bookcloseouts.com):
Midshipwizard Halcyon Blithe and Dragonfrigate Wizard Halcyon Blithe, both by James M. Ward.
Midshipwizard Halcyon Blithe and Dragonfrigate Wizard Halcyon Blithe, both by James M. Ward.
6tottman
Anne McCaffrey and the Dragonriders of Pern might be good too.
7zjakkelien
Do you know what he likes about the Temeraire books? It is the dragons? The bond between Temeraire and Laurence? The time period? The historicalness?
8RitaFaye
Came to the right place--thanks everyone. Used books are fine, and he's already read the Pern books (I have them).
#7--All of the above, plus battles, strategy, and war. He is almost as fond of the Temeraire series as he is Star Wars.
Further hints while I check out the above suggestions:
Past loved series include Redwall, Ranger's Apprentice, and the Covenanters series. Also seriously enjoyed Harry Potter, but the enthusiasm was not quite as high for it as these. He says Tom Clancy is too concerned with technical details to enjoy reading long, but the plots are good. Science fiction is great, he was reading something called The Risen Empire, which we both ended up finding rather dark. But the writing is excellent.
World War II and the Revolution, excepting those dealing with the political issues, have been popular non-fiction reading, especially books on the planes, tanks, and other armaments of WWII. Also histories of England's wars, and especially the Scottish clan. His dad's family thinks they can be traced to the MacGregor clan, so he read up on Rob Roy after our trip, which also led to the Covenanters series. He's also shown an interest in the Industrial Revolution.
Women as heroines or co-leads are fine, but emphatically does NOT like stories where all the men are dumber, meaner, and of less worth than the female. Princess Leia is fine in his mind--she works with the two men, and can wield a blaster with the best of them. I like her myself. :D He seems to enjoy books with multiple heroes, and a strong friendship bond. He liked the LOTR movies, but found Tolkien's writing slow going. Edited to add: Major Doctor Who fan--time travel is definitely acceptable.
#7--All of the above, plus battles, strategy, and war. He is almost as fond of the Temeraire series as he is Star Wars.
Further hints while I check out the above suggestions:
Past loved series include Redwall, Ranger's Apprentice, and the Covenanters series. Also seriously enjoyed Harry Potter, but the enthusiasm was not quite as high for it as these. He says Tom Clancy is too concerned with technical details to enjoy reading long, but the plots are good. Science fiction is great, he was reading something called The Risen Empire, which we both ended up finding rather dark. But the writing is excellent.
World War II and the Revolution, excepting those dealing with the political issues, have been popular non-fiction reading, especially books on the planes, tanks, and other armaments of WWII. Also histories of England's wars, and especially the Scottish clan. His dad's family thinks they can be traced to the MacGregor clan, so he read up on Rob Roy after our trip, which also led to the Covenanters series. He's also shown an interest in the Industrial Revolution.
Women as heroines or co-leads are fine, but emphatically does NOT like stories where all the men are dumber, meaner, and of less worth than the female. Princess Leia is fine in his mind--she works with the two men, and can wield a blaster with the best of them. I like her myself. :D He seems to enjoy books with multiple heroes, and a strong friendship bond. He liked the LOTR movies, but found Tolkien's writing slow going. Edited to add: Major Doctor Who fan--time travel is definitely acceptable.
9RitaFaye
Oh, and I forgot . . .
#3 The series is not over, but we haven't purchased the last 3 books. One of them I checked out from the library, but he really wants to own this series.
#3 The series is not over, but we haven't purchased the last 3 books. One of them I checked out from the library, but he really wants to own this series.
10suitable1
I didn't think it was over, but I haven't read the last one I have. The one where they go to South America.
11RitaFaye
There's one more after that one--Blood of Tyrants.
12allan.hird
I would defintely go for Robin Hobb and Farseers trilogy to start.
13Morphidae
I'd recommend the Honor Harrington series by David Weber starting with On Basilisk Station.
14tottman
I recommend everyone read Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein, but he might enjoy it. Lot of talk about WW II airplanes, a Scottish heroine and great story.
The Honor Harrington series by David Weber might be good, starts with On Basilisk Station. Military space battles. (Morphidae beat me to that recommendation while I was typing:) )
There's a couple series by Harry Turtledove he might enjoy. The WorldWar series is set during WW II with an alien invasion that unites the warring sides against the aliens. First book is In the Balance There is also a World at War series which I haven't read, but is basically a World War II series, but in a fantasy setting (dragons instead of airplanes, etc). First book in that series is Into the Darkness.
The Belgariad and The Mallorean by David Eddings are fun. Epic fantasy with a young boy growing up. A major quest story.
The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold is also good and there are a couple omnibus editions of the first few books in the series that would be a good starting point. Young Miles and Cordelia's Honor. Young boy who is not a typical hero but uses his wits to outsmart everyone. Sort of military sci-fi but a little more character development.
The Honor Harrington series by David Weber might be good, starts with On Basilisk Station. Military space battles. (Morphidae beat me to that recommendation while I was typing:) )
There's a couple series by Harry Turtledove he might enjoy. The WorldWar series is set during WW II with an alien invasion that unites the warring sides against the aliens. First book is In the Balance There is also a World at War series which I haven't read, but is basically a World War II series, but in a fantasy setting (dragons instead of airplanes, etc). First book in that series is Into the Darkness.
The Belgariad and The Mallorean by David Eddings are fun. Epic fantasy with a young boy growing up. A major quest story.
The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold is also good and there are a couple omnibus editions of the first few books in the series that would be a good starting point. Young Miles and Cordelia's Honor. Young boy who is not a typical hero but uses his wits to outsmart everyone. Sort of military sci-fi but a little more character development.
15Mareofthesea
Hmm... How about the Dream of Eagles series by jack whyte? It's a bit fantasy, but historical, bit military strategy. I found them fascinating. Starts with The skystone
17reconditereader
I recommend Stormdancer by Jay Kristoff. Similar in some ways to the Temeraire series, but in a very different setting! Pretty butt-kicking.
18.Monkey.
If he likes Clancy but finds the excess detail a bit much (I can understand that, they can sometimes take quite a bit before he really gets to the meat of the story), he might enjoy Alistair MacLean. Old Scottish(!) author who did a ton of stories of a similar kind of nature, and also with the witty banter between characters that Clancy is prone to, but they're all action at around just 200-250pgs or so.
19hfglen
Another who fits into the same "mental pigeonhole"as Alistair MacLean is Geoffrey Jenkins. He might be hard to find, as he lived in Pretoria, where I had the pleasure of meeting him twice. (His wife was Eve Palmer, a name still revered by tree lovers, and her plant press is now in the Glen family, still very much in use.)
20RitaFaye
Oh wow, more to add to the Amazon wish list. I have settled on Master and Commander, after using Amazon's look inside to compare the writing styles of O'Brian and Forester. I think the kid will take to O'Brian better, which may lead to Forester's work after. I'd already purchased the final book (hurrah) in the Star Wars series he's been collecting for the last 2 years, and by random chance I ran across One Summer: America, 1927 by Bill Bryson. The kid is also a fan of Bryson's work.
I think eclectic describes our reading choices. :D
And thank you for all the suggestions--I've saved them to Amazon's wishlist for future reference and purchase. I do love LT and the Green Dragon--most helpful.
I think eclectic describes our reading choices. :D
And thank you for all the suggestions--I've saved them to Amazon's wishlist for future reference and purchase. I do love LT and the Green Dragon--most helpful.
21Morphidae
I'd second the Eddings because of the friendships and The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold because of the military adventure.
Some other suggestions (all have received 8 or more stars):
Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart (fantasy, ancient China, humorous)
Joust by Mercedes Lackey (fantasy, alternate ancient Egypt, slave boy makes good, dragons)
Magician: Apprentice by Raymond Feist (fantasy, epic/quest, friendship)
The Curse of Chalion by Lois McMaster Bujold (fantasy, a little dark but has a HEA, middle aged man, friendships)
Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan (the first book isn't that great, but the rest are fun, might skew a little young)
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon (not fantasy, but I think he'd be interested)
The Many Colored Land by Julian May (fantasy, people in the future get exiled to our far past millions of years ago and discover other people already living there)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein (classic SF)
Can anyone tell me how Tamora Pierce is about males? I'd like to recommend the Immortals Quartet. It has a female lead but I can't remember if she's down on males on not.
Some other suggestions (all have received 8 or more stars):
Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart (fantasy, ancient China, humorous)
Joust by Mercedes Lackey (fantasy, alternate ancient Egypt, slave boy makes good, dragons)
Magician: Apprentice by Raymond Feist (fantasy, epic/quest, friendship)
The Curse of Chalion by Lois McMaster Bujold (fantasy, a little dark but has a HEA, middle aged man, friendships)
Percy Jackson series by Rick Riordan (the first book isn't that great, but the rest are fun, might skew a little young)
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon (not fantasy, but I think he'd be interested)
The Many Colored Land by Julian May (fantasy, people in the future get exiled to our far past millions of years ago and discover other people already living there)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein (classic SF)
Can anyone tell me how Tamora Pierce is about males? I'd like to recommend the Immortals Quartet. It has a female lead but I can't remember if she's down on males on not.
22Mareofthesea
21: That's a good question. In the Alana quartet, George and Jon are strong supporting characters, but seem to stick in the supporting role. It's odd to note that they are both older than Alana
In the Immortals Quartet, Numair is another older male in a supporting role.
Perhaps The Circle of Magic series, starting with Sandry's Book. This is a bit younger of a series, but does include a book from a male lead. Briar is a bit of a funny character who isn't really taken seriously all the time, but does show strength too. This quartet leads into another quartet, and a few more books as well. http://www.librarything.com/series/Emelan+Universe+-+chronological+order
In the Immortals Quartet, Numair is another older male in a supporting role.
Perhaps The Circle of Magic series, starting with Sandry's Book. This is a bit younger of a series, but does include a book from a male lead. Briar is a bit of a funny character who isn't really taken seriously all the time, but does show strength too. This quartet leads into another quartet, and a few more books as well. http://www.librarything.com/series/Emelan+Universe+-+chronological+order
23Morphidae
I really wasn't impressed with the Circle of Magic series even though I like many other of Pierce's books. I didn't get past the first couple of chapters of Sandry's Book whereas I rated most of the Immortal series 8 out of 10 stars or more. I don't think males in supporting roles is a bad thing as long as it fits "does NOT like stories where all the men are dumber, meaner, and of less worth than the female."
24mamzel
Has he read the Ender series? The Bartimaeus series by Jonathon Stroud is not everyone's cup of tea but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
It sounds like he might enjoy some of the steampunk genre. Kenneth Oppel's series starting with Airborn would be a good introduction.
It sounds like he might enjoy some of the steampunk genre. Kenneth Oppel's series starting with Airborn would be a good introduction.
25reconditereader
Oooh, second the recommendation of Airborn.
26zjakkelien
And second Ender's game and Joust! He should like those. Perhaps also Pathfinder by OSC. He might also like Eragon.
27RitaFaye
Thanks everyone. He's read the Ender series and Eragon. Bartimaeus was a summer reading book--he thought it was okay. Well, now I'm bookmarking this page for the next time he complains of "nothing to read."
#23 You nailed it. Female leads are fine, as long as any males are not portrayed as idiot cavemen. He was singularly underwhelmed by the "girl stories" he was forced to read in grade school.
#23 You nailed it. Female leads are fine, as long as any males are not portrayed as idiot cavemen. He was singularly underwhelmed by the "girl stories" he was forced to read in grade school.
28Jasper
Sci-fi + WWII? He will love John Birmingham's Weapons of Choice series. Possible caution on the language tho. I would also recommend Cory Doctrow's Little Brother

