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Jul 27, 2007, 5:13pm

Well, I've decided I really need to ask some questions, no matter how stupid I appear. I would be grateful for directions to any texts that might help me find the answers to these specific questions.

So, to start with: elements. I realise that the most common in use are the four: earth; air; wind; and fire. But these originated from the east or middle east. I have heard references to three elements in local trads, those being: land; sky; and sea. See this article: http://www.imbas.org/articles/elements_duile.html

I have encountered the idea these three can be can be further broken down into nine elements. Is this the case in the so-called "celtic" traditions and, if so, which texts will help me to learn more.

Any assistance by way of recommended texts will be greatly appreciated.

Aug 24, 2007, 12:41am

The four classic elements of Western Esoterica are not quite the same as the three realms/worlds of Druidry.

Air, earth, fire and water are conceptulized as the building blocks of everything else. When the Four Elements are called upon in Neopagan ritual, fer instance, they symbolize the presence of All that Is, at least in terms of our world (not the Gods' world).

Land, sea and sky are worlds of organic being. Think of them as horizontal, juxtaposed with three vertical realms, underworld, middle realm and celestial realm. Multiply worlds and realms, and you've got nine, but they're not really elements.

A great source for further reading is my husband's book cough, cough Bonewits' Essential Guide to Druidism. We also discuss the topic in the book we wrote together, Real Energy: Systems, Spirits, And Substances to Heal, Change, And Grow.