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TalkBook Discussion : Natural Causes by James Oswald

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1Andrew-theQM
Feb 24, 2017, 6:47 pm

Having met Gavin Spenser in more detail, do you have any further thoughts on him?

2bhabeck
Feb 24, 2017, 7:17 pm

I am beginning to think the assumption that he's McLean's biological grandfather is probably correct. He's a cagey one tho - he's obviously done his research on Tony and what he's up to at work, etc. I think Tony needs to be careful around him

3Sergeirocks
Feb 24, 2017, 8:01 pm

Still convinced he's Tony's biological grandfather, but wonder what the facial scarring is all about?

4bhabeck
Feb 24, 2017, 8:10 pm

>3 Sergeirocks: I thought he might have been injured in the war. Esther thought he was dead and married Tony's "grandfather" - I can't remember right now if that works with everyone's ages or not.

5Olivermagnus
Feb 24, 2017, 8:15 pm

I was wondering if he could have been in the plane crash that killed Tony's parents and grandfather. I even toyed with the idea that he could be Tony's grandfather but then realized that was pretty far out there.

6Sergeirocks
Feb 24, 2017, 8:32 pm

I wondered about the plane crash too...

7sushicat
Feb 25, 2017, 1:30 am

I'm very vary of Gavin Spenser after that weird offer to come work for him. It seems as though he wants him off the investigation.

8EadieB
Feb 25, 2017, 7:29 am

I think Gavin Spenser is the sixth killer and he wants McLean off the case because McLean is getting closer to figuring it out. I still think the Carstairs is the biological grandfather and I wouldn't want it to be Gavin Spenser if he is one of the killers.

9Carol420
Edited: Feb 25, 2017, 8:08 am

>8 EadieB: I agree with you that Gavin Spencer is the 6th man and I think the chauffeur...can't remember his name... could be doing the killing for Spencer. I think Spencer wants McLean off the investigation and the offer of the job is a way to try and get McLean under his control. Chloe seemed a sideline investigation but I wonder if Spencer is planning another ritual killing and Chloe is to be the sacrifice. It seems he believes that the previous sacrifice gave the 6 of them health and wealth.

10Andrew-theQM
Edited: Feb 25, 2017, 12:42 pm

>8 EadieB: Don't think it matters whether the grandfather is Spenser or Carstairs, they were both involved in the killings in my opinion. Although I do think Spenser is the grandfather and possibly the one driving the killings. He definitely offered him the job to get him out of the way.

>9 Carol420: I think Chloe has been kidnapped to re-enact the ritual.

11bluebird_
Feb 25, 2017, 6:13 pm

I still think he's the 6th killer and he's Tony's biological grandfather.
I too thought about him being in the plane crash but don't give that much weight.

Another theory in the back of my head is that he's actually Bertie--he didn't die in that car crash. He somehow got away and started over. He is now back because he knew the house was being re-developed and knew the 1940's body would be disturbed and found. He's behind the new murders and is planning another ritual.

12bhabeck
Feb 25, 2017, 7:03 pm

>11 bluebird_: that's an interesting theory about Bertie. Hadn't thought of that