military fantasy

any good military fantasy.i've read glen cook's Black company loved it.

Feist Serpent war(except the last book cleaned up the destruction to soon) & Empire loved them.

Martin's game of thrones loving it.

Stackpole dragon war series enjoyed it (except the ending kind of lame).

Various Warhammer fantasy (pretty good).

What i would like to know is there any more Military fantasy books out there that are gritty and good.

if this topic was already brought up i couldn't find it so please just redirect me.

There's Naomi Novik's His Majesty's Dragon and its sequels, which take place during the Napoleonic Wars and use dragons in combat.

The Deed of Paksenarrion, by Elizabeth Moon

But bishoplogan, I would strongly reccomend using proper spacing in your posts, because the way you type them now is very difficult to read.

bishoplogan you should really try out the David Gemmell books.

i really love them because they are really gritty and just fill of battles. im also reading the George R.R. Martin books at the moment and i love them XD.

I've read a few of the warhammer books as well and some of them are pretty good so it looks like we have similar tastes...any books you can recommend to me if you find any?

but seriously check out david gemmell...maybe legend to start with

>2 veevoxvoom: thanks but no,i like my fantasy w/little to no gun powder

>3 lohengrin: ok

>4 maxsumillion: i'll check out gemmell you should try Glen Cook: the Black Company series its about a merc company,just gritty and life is fast and deadly for all.simalur to Martin

Inda by Sherwood Smith --features military academy life

Seconding Deed of Paksenarrion: 100 pages in boot camp, few magic healings because "it's cheaper to train a new recruit", aching arms from drill - that's gritty military realism for fantasy.

If you enjoyed Glen Cook, you'll love Steven Erikson's Malazan book of the fallen series.
Loads and loads of battles and war and gritty warrior perspectives.
Awesome series.

Chris Bunch isn't bad either. Both fantasy and sci-fi depending on your flavour.

You might like In the Company of Ogres -- really tongue in cheek, but if you're in the mood for dark humor...

Military fantasy/history/fiction has a great series called casca which covers 2000 years of the story of an immortal Roman soldier having to go down the ages fighting in all sorts of conflicts and having to come to terms with his condition. For the complete list of the 26 novels published so far (and there are more coming) see http://www.casca.net

I thought Talyn by Holly Lisle was excellent, and it's what I would call military fantasy.

David Gunn
A new author; has only two, I think.
Really like the first one.

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Ender series by Orson Scott Card

Re #13: the Ender series is sci-fi, not fantasy. No magic, but aliens and space ships.

You might like the trilogy that starts with There Will Be Dragons, by John Ringo. Granted it is SF, but the SF part is so far out there it might as well be Fantasy. Hell, you've got dragons, elves, kraken, talking orcas and "magic" swords. And also some sort of super-duper high-tech suppression of firearms. The first book was decent, the second less so, but I found myself interested enough to keep turning the pages.

FWIW, I read the first Malazan book and found it far too frenetic to continue. Different strokes for different folks.

You might like An Oblique Approch by Eric Flint and David Drake. Granted, it is sci-fi, but the science aspect is a little out there.
http://www.amazon.com/Oblique-Approach-Eric-Flint/dp/0671878654

Also, I second Inda by Sherwood Smith. It has a miltary acadmy and the second one, The Fox, has sea battles. Politics are in it, too.

If you're a fan of Glen Cook, then you should definitely try the superb Malazan Book of the Fallen series (I know it's not everyone's cup of tea--for what it's worth I think the first book is the weakest of the series).

Other suggestions

Heather Gladney's Song of Naga Teot (out of print and hard to find but that's what abebooks.com is for right?)
R.Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing series
either series from John Marco

I enjoyed the first book of The Deed of Paksenarrion, but wasn't crazy about where the trilogy ended up.

John Marco's Tyrants and Kings series is definitely a must-read if you're into military fantasy!

Also check out The Corean Chronicles by L.E. Modesitt, Jr. , though I've only read the first one, it really was a good read and the author focused greatly on the military side of it all, so this series will also suit your needs I think :)

L.E. Modesitt, Jr. - The Spellsong Cycle or Novels of Recluce series.

I second MarcoGaidin's recommendation of the Malazan series. It's heavy on military and on fantasy. It's almost like reading a historical account of a war, only with magic. Lots of magic.

If you love A Game of Thrones, I cannot possibly think of a reason that you won't like the Malazan books. I actually love these books more than Martin's, and for me, that's saying something.

Gardens of the Moon is the first in the series!

Edited to add: The Prince of Nothing trilogy by R. Scott Bakker. First is The Darkness That Comes Before.

Try David Gunn.
Only has two books out, but I really liked them.
Death's Head and Death's Head Maximum Exposure

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David Weber's Bahzell series - it's not _exactly_ military (more knights-errant), but gritty, solid, realistic fantasy. Oath of Swords is the first.

17> I liked where the trilogy _ended_, for Paksenarrion, but truly hated the end of the second book. Way beyond gritty and into seriously grim. But the third one more-or-less redeemed it for me.

chris bunch, dragonmaster triology is a must read, if you like military-fantasy

Doesn't Feist write military fantasy? I remember enjoying Magician, and the first two sequels to a lesser extent, but can't speak for the rest of the series.

I haven't read any of the above. But when you say military fantasy, the Dragonlance series come to mind.

For starters, the whole Chronicles series all the way up to War of the Twins are about one faction declaring war on the other. There's knights on horses, knights on flying dragons, magic users and clerics amongst the soldiers etc.

In a book about the Majere twins, both Raistlin and Caramon learn about warfare. Raistlin learned how to cast combative spells and Caramon learned combat skills a soldier would need in battle. There's some talk about the role of magic users on the battlefield and all that.

More Sci Fi than Fantasy but the Emberverse series has a lot well written battle scenes. The basis of the story is that something causes a change in the fundamental laws in physics that basically renders all modern day technology unusable. No gunpowder, dynamite, electricity, steampower... the world is dumped back to using swords and bows as their primary weapons.

Like I said not exactly fantasy, but the one character is pretty Tolkien obsessed ^_^, even goes on to name her group of scouts the "Dunedain Rangers"

I'll second/third Elizabeth Moon's Deed of Paksenarrion. Malazan is somewhat divisive among fans. It's got good parts and bad.

I'll suggest Paul Kearney's The Ten Thousand and his Monarchies of God series starting with Hawkwood's Voyage.

Although not strictly Military fantasy, there are some very good military scenes/battles in Cursor's Fury and Captain's Fury, books three and four of Jim Butcher's Codex Alera series.