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‘War doesn’t determine who’s right. Only who’s left.’ Any thoughts on this?

War doesn’t prove who is right or wrong. It only shows the victors are left. And the victors may not be right.

I think that has been historically proven true. As history looks back on war, it's a lot easier to see the flaws.

The combatants always think they are right, but history has usually always told us a different story.

The old saying rings true. " the victors get to write the history" and it always makes them the good guys.

In a just world, the victors would always been on the side of right. But that’s not the case. I think the quote is accurate. However, the last man (group) standing can justify their actions however they choose and it is challenging for historians to suss out the ‘true’ facts.

>5 JohnDBurke: The same saying that came to my mind John. Never proved more than the way Richard III was maligned when he lost the throne to Henry Tudor. He was written as a humpback and killer of the princes in the Tower. In his bones that were recently discovered no signs of a humpback and quite a lot of proof that he didn’t kill the princes.

If only the righteous always won!!! However in a war there is usually wrong on both sides in what they undertake as part of the war.

“To the victor, the spoils.” ‘Twas ever thus…

>7 Andrew-theQM: Great analogy.
Just finished reading the 7 books in the Shardlake Series by Sansom your comment added to my understanding of the time

>9 JohnDBurke: An excellent series, and I’m sure I heard recently an eighth book is on its way.

That’s a very complex time in British History and the Tudor Period, especially decisions made by Henry VIII to get rid of a wife, still have major ramifications for life today. My favourite in the Series was Sovereign.

>10 Andrew-theQM: That was a great one with the great progress to the north and the Tudor line Legitimacy. Tombland with the Ketts rebellion was a great read for me. I am now reading the Seeker Series by S G Maclean. The Commonwealth Period under Oliver Cromwell I find interesting.

>9 JohnDBurke: and >10 Andrew-theQM: i’ve read the first two Shardlake mysteries. Sovereign is next up. Hoping to get back to the series soon. I just found out that Disney + is making a tv series. I hope they do it justice!

Absolutely agree with this quote. And the more mechanized the war, the more "who's left" becomes the finale.