FEBRUARY thread on the Grand European Tour : Nordic Countries

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FEBRUARY thread on the Grand European Tour : Nordic Countries

1PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 6:12 am

3PaulCranswick
Feb 1, 2025, 4:47 am

I will try to read something from each location :

Iceland : The Darkness Knows by Indridason
Denmark : Alphabet by Inger Christensen
Norway : In the Land of the Cyclops by Knausgaard
Sweden : A Man Called Ove by Backman
Finland : Dog Park by Oksanen

4PaulCranswick
Feb 1, 2025, 4:48 am



The Northern Lights in Finland

5Ameise1
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 6:06 am

Gorgeous, thanks so much. I'll join this month 😀
My reading plans for this challenge

Sweden: Der rote Raum by Roman Voosen The authors are originally from Germany. However, they now live in Sweden.
Sweden: So tödlich nah by Jonas Moström By chance, last year I came across the third volume of the Nathalie Svensson series last year. Now I'm starting with the first volume.
Iceland: Duell by Arnaldur Indridason 🎧

...and if there is still time
Sweden: Neid by Arne Dahl 🎧

6Kristelh
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 6:01 am

Iceland
Halldor Laxness READ
Arnaldur Indridason
Yrsa Sigurdardottir
Ragnar Jonasson
Jon Kalman Stefanson
Tomas Gudmundsson
Sjon

Denmark
Hans Christian Andersen READ
Henrik Pontoppidan
Peter Hoeg READ
Tove Ditlevsen
Karen Blixen READ
Dorthe Nors
Jussi Adler-Olsen

Norway
Knut Hamsun READ
Karl-Ove Knausgaard; Autumn
Roy Jacobsen
Jon Fosse READ
Sigrid Undset READ
Henrik Ibsen READ
Maja Lunde
Tarjei Vesaas READ

Sweden
Astrid Lindgren READ
Henning Mankell READ
Selma Lagerlof READ
August Strindberg REAd
Fredrik Backman READ
PĂ€r Lagerkvist READ
Kerstin Ekman
Tomas Transtromer
John Ajvide Lindqvist; Let the Right One In

Finland
Frans Eemil Sillanpaa
Sofi Oksanen
Vaino Linna
Arto Paasillina READ
Antti Tuomainen
Tove Janssen READ
Pajtim Statovci

7PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 5:52 am

>2 PaulCranswick: Ha! I’d argue that February is actually the month when the temperatures start to climb a bit after the freezing hell that (usually) is January, days are becoming noticeably longer and it’s one of the months of the year when people spend a lot of time outside because it’s often perfect weather for wintertime activities like skiing, ice skating and snowmobiling.

I still have to finish some January reads but am probably going to try my hands at an August Strindberg as I’ve only read him once - when I was forced to at school. If time permits I’ll see about some Norwegians.

8PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 5:55 am

Oh, and I’d just like to point out (again?) that this is not Scandinavia - it’s the Nordic countries/the Nordics. Do not mix them up. It’s not quite as bad as saying Northern Ireland is in Great Britain, but it’s not good.

9PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 6:13 am

>7 PawsforThought: You would know better than me, Paws, but it is definitely colder there than here!

>8 PawsforThought: I take your point which is why I was careful to say "Greater Scandinavia" but I obviously should have said "Greater Nordic Region". I have edited where I am able to correct this but I don't know how to do the thread title.

10PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 6:45 am

>9 PaulCranswick: It certainly isn’t as warm as other places.
I mostly just find it amusing that people from elsewhere say it’s so dark and cold right when we start talking about how it’s getting warmer and lighter.
Fun fact: around this time of year we get about 6-7 minutes more daylight every day, meaning that the beginning of February has 1,5 hours more sunlight than the beginning of January.

Thanks for changing the text where you can. Once a reply has been made to a post, only LT staff can change it. Don’t worry about it, though, it’s not that gig a deal.

11Tess_W
Feb 1, 2025, 6:45 am

I'm going to begin with a NF Caroline Matilda, Queen of Denmark, 1751-75 by Hester Chapman which I bought used from a garage sale somewhere in 2016! I then hope to move on to Smilla's Sense of Snow which takes place in Greenland/Denmark and A Man Called Ove (Sweden).

12Kristelh
Feb 1, 2025, 6:49 am

>10 PawsforThought:. I may not be from the Nordic region but the same is true of Minnesota. We get dark and darker until December and then it begins to get lighter and lighter. This has always been a time of happiness to me. Minnesota will surpass Florida in hours of daylight.

13PaulCranswick
Feb 1, 2025, 6:51 am

>10 PawsforThought: Thanks for pointing that out to me, Paws. Ignorance may be bliss but it is still ignorance!

14PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 6:53 am

>10 PawsforThought: I’m not surprised. The similarities between Minnesota and the Nordics is a reason why so many Swedes settled there! (I, like many people I know, have distant relatives in Minnesota.)

>13 PaulCranswick: But it’s also an opportunity to learn! How boring it would be if we knew everything.

15PaulCranswick
Feb 1, 2025, 6:56 am

>14 PawsforThought: Indeed. As in the UK, I guess that the shortest day is 21 December and thereafter the days get progressively longer until the summer solstice on 21 June.

I miss the seasons a lot!

16Matke
Feb 1, 2025, 7:07 am

Very glad to see the thread set up and hoping to learn more about Nordic literature here.

I’ll be reading The Royal Physician’s Visit by Per Olov Enquist.

If I can squeeze it in, I’d like to read My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She’s Sorry by Fredrick Backman.

Both authors are from Sweden.

17mnleona
Feb 1, 2025, 7:44 am

>12 Kristelh: I am also in Minnesota and happy for it to have more daylight.

18mnleona
Feb 1, 2025, 7:48 am

I will join. I am also finished with Fehu by Malene Solvsten and translated by Adrienne Alair I won on LT. Danish book.
I will be going on a Baltic cruise this year and will go to some of these countries.

19PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 8:03 am

>16 Matke: Ooh, I don’t often see people from outside Sweden reading P O Enquist! He’s from the same region as me (up in the north), and was - still is - much beloved.

>18 mnleona: Do you know which places exactly you’ll be stopping by?

20mnleona
Feb 1, 2025, 8:23 am

>19 PawsforThought: Yes. We fly into Berlin from Minnesota. MSC cruise begins in Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Sweden, Denmark. We will not do Norway this time. I have been to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Germany so others are new to me. My husband was Scandinavian; Swedish and Norwegian so our kids will see these places. I also do genealogy and found Scandinavia genealogy is different from my Italian genealogy I can trace my mother's side back to the 1400s with the same name but Scandinavian names changed.
Sorry, I did not mean to make this so long.

21booksaplenty1949
Feb 1, 2025, 8:37 am

>11 Tess_W: I recall reading Miss Smilla’s Feeling for Snow with some enjoyment so I was alarmed, when I looked at the book’s main page just now, to see the stinging review by yarb, an LT friend whose insights I value, who gave it one-and-half stars. That’s what makes the “social” part of LT interesting to me. You’re talking about the same book, and yet you come to see that it’s not the same book because you’re not the same person.

22booksaplenty1949
Feb 1, 2025, 8:44 am

Boyhood Island will be coming off the shelf after ten long years. I see I even had the wrong cover image displayed on my book page. Sorry, My Struggle: Book 3. Some time in the—-daily increasing—-sun for you at last.

23alcottacre
Feb 1, 2025, 8:58 am

As I have remarked elsewhere, I have already started Sigrid Undset's Kristin Lavrandsdatter, which I am very much enjoying. I have already finished Part 1 of the trilogy and am now several chapters into Part 2.

24PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 10:03 am

>20 mnleona: We sometimes have big cruise ships docking at the tiny harbour of the town I live in.
I’m not surprised that the Scandinavian names changed, we still had the patronymicon system until only a bit over 100 years ago (both my grandfathers had their fathers first name become their own last name).
You can still trace your family genealogy though, Swedish records are very well kept (I’ve traced my roots back to the 1400s, too.)

>21 booksaplenty1949: I read Miss Smilla’s Sense of Snow ages and ages ago and wasn’t a fan. But I was much younger so don’t know what I’d think of it now.

>23 alcottacre: Everyone I know who’s read Kristin Lavrandsdatter has loved it. Someday I’ll get to it myself.

25mnleona
Feb 1, 2025, 10:14 am

>24 PawsforThought: You are so right about the names of the sons. It took me some time to figure why one son, the oldest, had a different last name. My mother-in-law's family name became Haagenson for the son of Haagen Hermanson and the others in his family were Hermanson because the father was the son of Herman. I also found Swedish has o in son and Norwegian has e in sen. I hope no one is confused because I confuse myself.

26PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 10:22 am

>25 mnleona: Most of the time, Swedish actually has -sson rather than -son (the extra s is genitive, just like in English). My own las name is just like that.
If you have any questions about this kind of stuff you’re more than welcome to ask me - I love this kind of thing. Feel free to drop by my thread whenever.

27mnleona
Feb 1, 2025, 10:32 am

28amanda4242
Feb 1, 2025, 10:32 am

>9 PaulCranswick: Group admins can change thread titles, so shoot @drneutron a message.

29labfs39
Feb 1, 2025, 12:10 pm

I am hoping to get to one or more of the following for February:

The Hills Reply by Tarjei Versaas
The Unseen by Roy Jacobsen
Unknown Soldiers by Vaino Linna

All have been sitting on my shelves for the last year or two.

30EllaTim
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 12:16 pm

I tried to look it up, what countries belong to Scandinavia and why? The answer is: it depends

"Which countries belong to Scandinavia depends on how you define Scandinavia:

Geographically, Scandinavia only involves Sweden and Norway. Scandinavia stands for the peninsula in the north of Europe.
Politically, Scandinavia is made up of Denmark, Norway and Sweden.
Finally, there is the historical and cultural aspect. On the basis of these factors, Scandinavia consists of the member states of the Nordic Council. The Council includes Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden."


Isn't that confusing? For me, of course Finland is part of Scandinavia. But part of the landmass Finland is on, belongs to Russia!

>18 mnleona: I'd love a tour on the Baltic. Your tour sounds great.

I've started reading The Summer Book by Tove Jansson. I used to love her Moomins. This book has the same feel.
Ideally I'd like to read one book from each country. Considering Roy Jacobsen, and Enquist.
I would love to read a book from Greenland, but I can't find one.

31PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 1:07 pm

>30 EllaTim: If you ask any Nordic person, really anyone at all, they will tell you that Norway, Denmark and Sweden are Scandinavia and if you add Finland and Iceland you get the Nordic countries.

Where did you get your info? Because that’s not true. I don’t see how anyone could claim that Scandinavia is all five nations because those are the nations of the Nordic council - the Nordic council is called that because it’s the Nordic regions working together. And the Scandinavian peninsula is called just that and is not the same as Scandinavia.
The reason it’s called Scandinavia is because of the Scandinavian mountain chain (on the border between Norway and Sweden). Denmark used to rule Norway hence why it’s part of Scandinavia too. The reason why some people (from other countries) mix Finland into it is because Sweden ruled Finland for a long time. But genuinely no one in the Nordics agrees with that.
Now, I’m not Finnish, but I think they’d feel similar about this as Irish people do about getting mixed up in the UK.

32PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 1:09 pm

>29 labfs39: Nice choices! I really should get around to reading VÀinö Linna one of these days.

33EllaTim
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 2:43 pm

>31 PawsforThought: It was a translators office. Paws, I just wanted to know more!

35m.belljackson
Feb 1, 2025, 2:50 pm

>23 alcottacre: Kristin and Erlend - what memorable fun!

36booksaplenty1949
Feb 1, 2025, 2:54 pm

Discussion yet another example of the meaninglessness of “national” identity.

37PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 3:57 pm

>33 EllaTim: I completely get wanting to know. Bad work from the translators though.

>36 booksaplenty1949: It’s not about national identity at all. It’s about factual correctness regarding geographical regions. You wouldn’t say France was a Benelux country.

38EllaTim
Feb 1, 2025, 4:31 pm

>34 booksaplenty1949: Thanks!

>37 PawsforThought: The Benelux has at one (short) time been conquered by Napoleon. Never the other way round. But I think political and cultural borders are more flexible than geographic ones.

39alcottacre
Feb 1, 2025, 4:38 pm

>24 PawsforThought: Good to know, Paws! I am still enjoying the ride with Kristin, that is for sure.

>35 m.belljackson: Yay, Marianne!

40booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 1, 2025, 7:15 pm

>37 PawsforThought: No. Indeed “Benelux country” is probably not a phrase I’ve ever used. Yet if someone decides to read a Maigret mystery in August for the Benelux stage of the challenge this will be entirely justified, because Simenon was born and raised in Belgium, remained a Belgian citizen all his life, and is by far Belgium’s best-selling author. But they probably won’t learn anything about Belgium, unless they select the one or two mysteries set there, out of a total of 75. They will learn a lot about Paris, however.

41PawsforThought
Feb 1, 2025, 7:14 pm

>38 EllaTim: I know. My point was simply that Benelux does not include France. And no one would claim it did.

>40 booksaplenty1949: Sure.

42avatiakh
Feb 1, 2025, 8:19 pm

My chosen read is The Emperor of Lies by Steve Sem-Sandberg who is Swedish. The book is set in Poland's Lodz ghetto. I attended a talk a few years back that Sem-Sandberg gave at Auckland Writers' Festival about his The Chosen Ones and I've been meaning to read his work since then.
I also have Maja Lunde's The Last Wild Horses (Norwegian) which I've been wanting to pick up for the past couple of years as well as Stolen by Ann-Helén Laestadius (Swedish Sami) which I stalled on after reading the first part. Just not sure I can get to every book this month as I have other reads I'm keen on.

43PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 12:52 am

I didn't intend any controversy with my clumsy description of Greater Scandinavia. I will message to Jim and see if he can help amend the title of this thread for accuracy sake.

44PawsforThought
Feb 2, 2025, 3:33 am

>43 PaulCranswick: Don’t feel bad, Paul.

I didn’t mean to take over the thread with this discussion, I just wanted to point out the correct name.

45PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 8:26 am

>44 PawsforThought: No I am very glad you pointed it out, Paws, as I would be mortified to continue to use terminology that is plainly wrong.

I am pleased to announce that the brilliant Jim (drneutron) has come to the rescue and amended the thread title page at my request.

46booksaplenty1949
Feb 2, 2025, 8:47 am

Names come and go. “Warsaw Pact” and “Iron Curtain” mean something real to most of the people here but will eventually require a paragraph of explanation. I was looking up what constituted the “White Dominions” in the British Empire and discovered that there is an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to “Names of the Irish State.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Irish_state#:~:text=Hence%2C%20the%20.... I’m still confused.

47PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 10:13 am

>46 booksaplenty1949: I don't think that the Warsaw Pact countries is in too much doubt. There were eight signatories to the Warsaw Pact signed on 14 May 1955. Apart from the Soviet Union they were : Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Romania and Poland. I will be looking for writers from the geographic confines of those then signatories. Therefore since the Soviet Union is no more Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic states, Belarus and Moldova count. (The other Soviet states are not within Europe). Czech Republic and Slovakia count as would writers from the Eastern part of Germany which was then East Germany.

48mnleona
Feb 2, 2025, 10:25 am

Reading about the ports we will visit on the Baltic cruise, I read there is a statue of Joseph Conrad in Gdynia, Poland who wrote Heart of Darkness.

49PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 10:54 am

>48 mnleona: To think that that novella is prized as one of the greatest works of English literature in the last 150 years and Conrad considered English his third language!

50mnleona
Feb 2, 2025, 11:11 am

>48 mnleona: I found the book, Heart of Darkness
on: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/526

51mnleona
Feb 2, 2025, 11:13 am

>49 PaulCranswick: I am reading more about him. Some say the book is boring on some reviews but i will read it.

52PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 11:30 am

>51 mnleona: He is a difficult author, I find, Leona, but eventually a rewarding one.

53PawsforThought
Feb 2, 2025, 12:07 pm

>51 mnleona: I had a fairly hard time reading that one and ultimately wasn’t a big fan. He what s great way with words, though. I really relied on the footnotes which explained a lot that wasn’t immediately obvious to me, so that could be something to keep in mind.

54mnleona
Feb 2, 2025, 12:21 pm

55booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 2, 2025, 4:21 pm

>47 PaulCranswick: I’m not saying the term doesn’t have an objective meaning. I’m saying that it is no longer a designation familiar to the average person. Many of the countries covered by the Pact have different names now than they did then, adding to the problem.

56Tess_W
Edited: Feb 2, 2025, 3:25 pm

>55 booksaplenty1949: Because that term is no longer taught...it's not in the history textbooks and it's not a State History Standard in most States. Add to that: Archduke Francis Ferdinand, The Black Glove Society (Hand), The Zimmerman Telegram, Navajo Code Talkers, The Tulsa Race Massacre of 1921, ANY Geography past the 6th grade (in Ohio), The Armenian Genocide, The Acadian Expulsion, The Tuskegee Airmen, The Atlantic Charter, accounts of Native American cultures before colonization, NO current events, Any Eastern history (Mongols, etc.), The Bolshevik Revolution, The Bay of Pigs, etc. The point: we are losing knowledge and vocabulary.

57booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 2, 2025, 4:13 pm

>53 PawsforThought: “And this also
has been one of the dark places of the earth.” Where is the speaker? On a boat at the mouth of the Thames. A fascinating exploration of “colonialism”; reminding us that once Britain was a colony of the Romans, the Vikings, the Normans, before becoming itself a coloniser. The “civilising” motives are stripped away and the unchanging psychology of conquest laid bare.

58booksaplenty1949
Feb 2, 2025, 4:17 pm

>56 Tess_W: I am specifically interested in place names and “national” designations.

59PaulCranswick
Feb 2, 2025, 5:52 pm

>55 booksaplenty1949: Doesn't that add interest if there is a smidgeon of educational value thrown in for good measure?

60Tess_W
Feb 2, 2025, 7:50 pm

>58 booksaplenty1949: becoming even more obsolete. "Modern" education is all about ideas, not about names or designations.

61booksaplenty1949
Feb 3, 2025, 9:12 am

>59 PaulCranswick: I sense that most of us here were around in 1991, so the term is still meaningful for us.

62kac522
Feb 4, 2025, 12:39 pm

I'll be reading short stories by
Karen Blixen
Selma Lagerlof
Tove Jansson

63booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 5, 2025, 9:24 pm

Have begun Boyhood Island.
Cont’d. Like the earlier books in the series, an apparently random accumulation of tiny details takes a while to assume meaningful shape.

64Tess_W
Feb 6, 2025, 9:38 am

I completed Caroline Matilda, Queen of Denmark by Hester Chapman A biography about the English princess (King George III's sister) who married Christian, heir to the throne of Denmark, at the age of 15. Matilda was raised in seclusion and was the youngest of nine children. She was a child when it became political expedient for Britain to have an alliance with Denmark and Matilda was to effect that. By age 16, Christian of Denmark was a severe alcoholic and mentally ill. His mental condition deteriorated throughout the years and he was barely lucid. This is the story of Matilda's marriage, Danish politics, Matilda's adultery with the royal physician, Johann Friedrich Struensee, and her untimely death. Quite a good read! I will look for more from Ms. Chapman. I bought this for 20 cents at a Friends of the Library sale. 221 pages 5 stars

65booksaplenty1949
Feb 6, 2025, 10:15 am

>64 Tess_W: A very interesting story. About a Nordic country rather than by a Nordic writer, but perhaps you have more things up your sleeve for February.

66Tess_W
Feb 6, 2025, 12:14 pm

>65 booksaplenty1949: Maybe, maybe not. I didn't see where it said Nordic writers? Smilla's Sense of Snow is 4-6 weeks from the library......

67booksaplenty1949
Feb 6, 2025, 4:28 pm

>66 Tess_W: https://www.librarything.com/topic/365885#n8708282 “A Wider Scandinavia (Books by authors from Iceland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland).” I think every month specifies authors FROM the area in question or writing in a specific European language, except September, which is for books ABOUT Europe.

68alcottacre
Feb 6, 2025, 5:12 pm

I have finished the first part of Kristin Lavransdatter, The Wreath, which I enjoyed quite a bit. I am now well into the second part and I am not liking it nearly as well, but that may change.

69avatiakh
Feb 6, 2025, 7:47 pm

>64 Tess_W: That sounds like an interesting read. My library has eight Chapman books though not that one.

70labfs39
Feb 7, 2025, 7:29 am

I read the first chapter of The Hills Reply by Tarjei Vesaas, but decided it was not the book for the moment. The Unseen by Roy Jacobsen, however, is proving to be wonderful.

71Kristelh
Feb 7, 2025, 12:23 pm

I am in process of reading Let the Right One In by John Ajvide Lindqvist, Swedish author. This is one of NPR top 100 Horror story.

72Matke
Feb 7, 2025, 8:14 pm

>64 Tess_W: By sheerest coincidence, I’m reading a novel about this same subject, called The Royal Physician’s Visit. I’d never heard of this king and his queen before. It sad yet fascinating. I might look for the Chapman book.

73PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 7, 2025, 8:45 pm

>66 Tess_W: Don't worry about it Tess. It meets the spirit of the Challenge and that will suffice for me. Maybe not the letter of it but the spirit. I am an easy going landlord of the challenge.

74Tess_W
Feb 7, 2025, 9:09 pm

>73 PaulCranswick: LOL I did not go back and read the original post, only the one for this month. However, I always try to read two for this topic, when I can......so hope the other comes in before the end of the month!

75PaulCranswick
Feb 7, 2025, 9:14 pm

76amanda4242
Feb 7, 2025, 9:29 pm

>72 Matke: And in another coincidence, I just downloaded a movie on the same subject, A Royal Affair.

77booksaplenty1949
Feb 7, 2025, 11:51 pm

>76 amanda4242: Movie was made by a Danish director, in Danish, so definitely counts.

78booksaplenty1949
Feb 8, 2025, 5:18 am

About a hundred pages into Boyhood Island. As the tiny daily details pile up, despite their great difference from those of my own childhood, analogous memories from that time of life come flooding back to me. An interesting reading experience.

79Matke
Feb 8, 2025, 8:58 am

>76 amanda4242: Please let me know if the movie is worth a watch, Amanda. The sad events involved seem to be having a moment!

80amanda4242
Feb 8, 2025, 10:48 am

>79 Matke: Will do!

81EllaTim
Feb 8, 2025, 10:59 am

>70 labfs39: I finished The Unseen. Very interesting. It made me look up the background of the writer, wondering about the book. I looked at the map, trying to find the location of the island where it is set. And discovered how far Norway is when it comes to modernity, sea tunnels more than a 100meters under sea level!

82PawsforThought
Feb 8, 2025, 12:10 pm

>81 EllaTim: Tunnels are very convenient when it means not having to drive around hundreds of mountains to get to your destination. (They’re also a major pain when it comes to mobile phone usage.)

83EllaTim
Feb 8, 2025, 12:42 pm

>82 PawsforThought: It must mean the more northern parts of the country will be a lot faster to reach. They will be less isolated, and that means changes. But I’m also just fascinated by the sheer technical difficulty of this whole project. I watched a YouTube video just now.

84Matke
Feb 8, 2025, 12:50 pm

Finished My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She’s Sorry.

My feelings are a bit conflicted. On the one hand, I loved the fairy tale elements of the quest story, and how they were interwoven with “real life.” The characters are rounded and their backstories are both interesting and poignant. The ending was a little convenient but certainly fit in with the whole classic fairy tale ambience. All of that is great.

But I was uncomfortable almost to the point of annoyance with the rather preachy tone in some parts of the book, especially toward the end. It seemed to me that the characters’ arcs made all the moral points very clearly, without the need for explicit statements by the author. Maybe this book is aimed at young adult readers. But even if that is so, the message delivery became really heavy-handed in places.

I have Beartown by the same author and I’ll surely give it a read.

Overall, I’d recommend the book, but with a bit of a caveat. 3.5 *s

85PawsforThought
Feb 8, 2025, 2:21 pm

>83 EllaTim: Yes and no. Faster, sure but still not fast. And don’t get me started on the lack of infrastructure in the north.
Not really less isolated, though. Plenty of people do live in these regions, even if it’s less than the big cities.

86ctpress
Feb 9, 2025, 4:47 am

I'm on home field this month. I finished Jon Fosse's Septology two days ago - it has a unique haunting atmosphere as I listened to the audiobooks. Deeply spiritual, stream of consciousness, but very repetitive, but I guess there's a deeper point to that also - that we always in out thinking come back to the same thinks that occupies us.

Reading now The Wild Duck by Ibsen and For Self-Examination by SĂžren Kierkegaard.

I have also lately listened to a lot of H. C. Andersen's Fairy Tales - but I will not likely finish it anytime soon as I'm reading the complete collection, and it is well over 1.000 pages.

87ctpress
Feb 9, 2025, 4:50 am

>68 alcottacre: I read The Wreath some years ago, but never got any further although I also like it.

88PawsforThought
Feb 9, 2025, 5:01 am

Those of you thinking about reading Tove Jansson this month - the first book about the Moomins was published in 1945 so this year is the 80th anniversary.

89SirThomas
Feb 10, 2025, 5:48 am

Just finished I Remember You by Yrsa Sigurdardottir, a ghost story from Iceland.
Exciting and well written

90vancouverdeb
Edited: Feb 12, 2025, 5:39 am

I finished Night Shadows by Eva Bjorg Aegisdottir, an Icelandic thriller / mystery. Really enjoyed it.

91alcottacre
Edited: Feb 25, 2025, 5:21 pm

I finally finished part 2 of Kristin Lavransdatter and have started part 3, The Cross. I did not like part 2 as much as I did part 1.

92kac522
Edited: Feb 17, 2025, 1:00 am

I've finished the following short stories:

Denmark: The Dreaming Child and Other Stories by Isak Dinesen (Karen Blixen). This mini Penguin60s booklet contains 3 stories from Blixen's Winter Tales (1942): "The Dreaming Child", "The Sailor-boy's Tale" and "Peter and Rosa." All 3 are melancholy fantasy tales, featuring young people caught up in their own imagined worlds. Beautifully written and ethereal.

Sweden: "The Eclipse" by Selma Lagerlof, a short story, originally published in English in 1922 in the American-Scandinavian Review, about a group of peasant women who gather to celebrate an April eclipse. Lovingly written, short and hopeful.

Finland: I read the first 6 stories (of 18 stories) in The Listener by Tove Jansson (1971), translated by Thomas Teal. I loved Jansson's The Summer Book, but I found these stories impersonal and distant. Many of the stories only identify the characters as "he" or "she" without names or context. I felt like the stories had no arc or point or meaning--as if I had opened a book to a random page and read until another random page. I decided not to finish the collection. I have Jansson's novel The True Deceiver on my shelf, which I may pick up at a later time.

93PaulCranswick
Feb 17, 2025, 1:14 am

I finished my third book for the challenge yesterday and it was Karl-Ove Knausgaard's In the Land of the Cyclops which is his first collection of essays in English. His writing is well suited to the form.

I have so far covered Iceland, Denmark and Norway and will visit Sweden next.

94booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 17, 2025, 11:11 am

Finished Boyhood Island. Read the first two instalments of My Struggle with enjoyment a few years ago (oh, all right, ten years ago) but Book 3 has been on my shelf for a while. Glad that this Challenge got me re-started. This instalment, as the title suggests, goes back to the author’s early childhood, and despite the many unfamiliar details—-and Knausgaard is all about details—-despite the Norwegian names and the rock groups from after my time and the narrator’s toxic father, I found myself regularly reliving my own childhood memories as I read the book. His closing observation, that in moving away he left everything behind and yet left nothing behind, rang completely true. Have ordered Book 4.

95alcottacre
Feb 17, 2025, 11:12 am

I am hoping to finish Book 3 of Kristin Lavransdatter either today or tomorrow. I am glad to have finally read it thanks to this challenge!

96booksaplenty1949
Feb 18, 2025, 9:15 am

>91 alcottacre: Your “touchstone” here goes to a (non-existent) author named Kristin Lavransdatter. Perhaps you accidentally used two sets of brackets and created her.

97EllaTim
Feb 18, 2025, 5:39 pm

I started Growth of the Soil by Knut Hamsun, but put it aside. Didn’t like it.

98Kristelh
Feb 19, 2025, 7:24 am

>97 EllaTim:, I liked Growth of the Soil when I read it. Hunger, if I remember right, I liked less.

99Kristelh
Feb 19, 2025, 3:00 pm

Finished Autumn by Karl Ove Knausgard. Nonfiction, autobiographical, essays. It was good.

100Donna828
Feb 20, 2025, 3:46 pm

I struggled a bit through Under the Glacier by Halldor Laxness, an Icelandic author. I loved both Independent People and The Fish Can Sing by him. Too bad I got confused/overwhelmed with the mysticism in "Glacier", although I enjoyed some of the droll humor and earnestness of the young protagonist who seemed as confused as I was!

101ctpress
Feb 20, 2025, 3:52 pm

Til SelvprĂžvelse (For Self-Examination) by SĂžren Kierkegaard.

A short, but condensed work by Kierkegaard. I often find him very hard to read, but this Christian classic is not that difficult to understand. It consists of three sermons - the main theme is how we examine ourselves when we come to the Bible as God's Word.

102EllaTim
Feb 20, 2025, 5:25 pm

I finished Comet in Moominland by Tove Jansson, which was a delight to read. Colourful, and filled with fantasy and imagination. I’m still reading her Summer Book that has the same feel to it.

103PaulCranswick
Feb 20, 2025, 7:26 pm

>97 EllaTim: & >98 Kristelh: To be fair I also quite enjoyed Growth of the Soil and liked it more than Hunger.

104bell7
Feb 23, 2025, 8:22 am

I had not anticipated joining in this month, but a few days ago one of my library patrons recommended The Employees by Olga Ravn. She's a Danish author and it's a short book, so I'll try to read it this week.

105booksaplenty1949
Feb 23, 2025, 9:37 am

>101 ctpress: I own four unread books by Kierkegaard, three of which I bought because they have covers by Edward Gorey. Not sure why Anchor Books was so keen on Kierkegaard. I see that Wikipedia notes he has been described as the “Father of Existentialism” so I suppose that was a draw in the 60s.

106alcottacre
Feb 25, 2025, 5:22 pm

>96 booksaplenty1949: Fixed. Thanks!

107Kristelh
Feb 27, 2025, 7:18 am

Finishing up today Snow Angels by Finnish Author James Thompson. Police procedural, #1 in series. I liked it and would read more. While I am not Finnish this one held a lot of memories for me growing up in Northern Minnesota with saunas, Finnish food, etc.

108booksaplenty1949
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 7:24 am

>107 Kristelh: Somehow “Finnish food” does not summon up a festival of flavour but I am sure those more knowledgeable can provide better insight.

109Kristelh
Feb 27, 2025, 7:37 am

>108 booksaplenty1949: Finnish food is not as Scandinavian as Norwegian or Swedish. It’s more “from the land”. Lots of fish and game. My father had a Finish friend and they hunted and fished together. My mother learned to cook many dishes. I wouldn’t say it was my favorite but not bad.

110PawsforThought
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 8:27 am

>109 Kristelh: I beg to disagree - a whole lot of food is shared between Sweden (and Norway) and Finland (as you'd expect, we were the same country for 600 years).

And there's lots of great food from Finland - my favourite being Karelian pierogi.

111Kristelh
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 9:10 am

>110 PawsforThought: Well, I agree but maybe in my area of the US, it seemed a bit different. I've never been to the actual Scandinavian countries. I made Cardomon Bread which the instructor said was Finnish. My mother would salt fish and pickle fish (tasted like herring). And she made fish head soup (Kalamojakka) and a type of scalloped potatoe with the salted fish (lohilaatikko). And I don't recall any similar recipes from my Swedish or Norwegian relatives.

112booksaplenty1949
Feb 27, 2025, 9:34 am

>111 Kristelh: Yes, somehow I see it all in various shades of white. This confirms my impression.

113Kristelh
Feb 27, 2025, 9:36 am

>112 booksaplenty1949:, absolutely true for Scandinavian Food. Shades of white.

114PawsforThought
Feb 27, 2025, 9:45 am

>111 Kristelh: Everything except but the fish head soup are typical for Sweden and Norway too.

>112 booksaplenty1949: and >113 Kristelh: Don't let the colours scare you off. Nordic food is (for obvious reasons) very focused on meat, fish and root vegetables. They're not always that colourful.

115Kristelh
Feb 27, 2025, 10:06 am

>114 PawsforThought:. I liked the scalloped potatoes with fish. I think I will try to remember to make this. In checking on line it says you can use left over smoked salmon to make this. But any left over salmon can be used.

116booksaplenty1949
Feb 27, 2025, 10:08 am

>115 Kristelh: That might add a discrepant note of pink, however.

117Kristelh
Feb 27, 2025, 10:18 am

>116 booksaplenty1949: yes it might, but the on line stuff says they use Salmon. My mother used mostly Northern when she made salted fish and herring type fish. I think Salmon might be a very tasty substitute.

118Tess_W
Feb 27, 2025, 5:09 pm

My library informed me today that Smilla's Sense of Snow will be delayed for another 2-4 weeks. I won't get to it this month. But will read it when I get it!

119avatiakh
Feb 27, 2025, 7:57 pm

I'm gonig to carry my book, The Emperor of Lies, over into March as I was late getting to it and February is a short month.

120PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 9:03 pm

I love the food talk - it being one of my passions (although I like books more, I think).

Icelandic food can be a little leftfield for the more conservative palettes. Includes

Hakarl which is fermented shark
Svio which is sheep's head, and
Harofiskur which is dried fish



https://www.icelandcars.is/blogs/unusual-icelandic-food#:~:text=Har%C3%B0fiskur%....

121PaulCranswick
Feb 27, 2025, 9:09 pm

Denmark (Carsten comments welcome!) is famous for its open rye sandwich smorrebrod. Danes apparently voted stegt flaesk a crispy pork dish as their favourite national dish. Denmark is renowned for its dairy products, pastries and beers in addition.



https://www.visitdenmark.com/denmark/things-do/danish-food/traditional-danish-fo...

122PaulCranswick
Feb 27, 2025, 9:26 pm

>122 PaulCranswick: Sweden or Greece would be the country I haven't yet visited that is top of my bucket list. Paws is obviously more qualified to comment of Swedish cuisine but the first things I think of with Swedish food is the extensive use of lingonberries, the wonderful meatballs ( kottbullar ), pickled herrings, gravad lax, and toast skagen pea soups and pancakes are traditionally eaten by the Swedish military on Thursday's apparently.

For those with a sweet tooth there are cinnamon rolls and the famous green Princess Cake.



https://www.cozymeal.com/magazine/swedish-food

123amanda4242
Feb 27, 2025, 9:28 pm

>120 PaulCranswick: Well, it wouldn't be my first choice, but I'm willing to try most things once.

124PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 10:08 pm

My eldest daughter lived and worked in Norway for almost two years and loved the place.

I suppose that the first thing one thinks about is salmon when one thinks of Norway and in addition they have a number of dishes which are a Norwegian take on dishes popular throughout the Nordic region.



https://www.celebritycruises.com/blog/norwegian-food

125PaulCranswick
Feb 27, 2025, 9:55 pm

>123 amanda4242: I would probably balk at that one, Amanda, to be honest.

126PaulCranswick
Edited: Feb 27, 2025, 10:08 pm

And Finland. I have a number of Finnish friends largely due to my work as the elevator company, Kone, is from Finland and I have had dealings with them on a number of projects, including my latest one.

Paws is obviously right that there is a lot of commonality across the region in dishes with slight local twists. But there seem to be a number of dishes which are also distinct to each place. Fried vendace for example is a small fish fried and Karelian pasties look distinctive and are usually filled with rice porridge.

Kalakukko is a fish pie often served with bacon. Reindeer is fried in fat and then cooked in beer until tender. And of course they have their meatball, pea soup and other variations.

https://www.finnstyle.com/ft-10-finnish-foods.html?srsltid=AfmBOoob8dM_UyTJUeyfO...

127kac522
Feb 28, 2025, 1:18 am

>122 PaulCranswick: I live in a neighborhood with Swedish roots and we have a lovely little Scandinavian restaurant down the street, where we can get Swedish meatballs, cardamon bread and during the holidays take part in a Juleborg (Christmas dinner feast). All good. although I do take a pass on the lutefisk.

128kac522
Edited: Feb 28, 2025, 10:56 am

I finished my tour tonight by watching old BBC productions of two Henrik Ibsen plays:

--Hedda Gabler (aired 1962), starring Ingrid Bergman, Michael Redgrave, Ralph Richardson and Trevor Howard--outstanding acting, despite the tragic trajectory ~and~
--The Lady from the Sea (aired 1973), starring a young Eileen Atkins and Denholm Elliott, which was a little stranger, but has a more hopeful ending. Recently I've seen Denholm Elliott in several old BBC dramas, and he's become one of my favorite actors from that era.

129PawsforThought
Feb 28, 2025, 5:16 am

>122 PaulCranswick: You did a good job, Paul!
Personally, I refuse to go near pea soup or princess cake, but to each their own. As I'm a northerner I also want to put forth renskav (reindeer stew) which is served with boiled potatoes and of course lingonberry jam. And the multiple varieties of palt/kroppkaka/kams (flour and potato based dumplings). I prefer pitepalt and blodpalt (made with blood).

By the way, if anyone is on Instagram, look up the creator called olafurw. He did a great skit about Nordic food and "jam on the side". Very funny, and completely true.

>126 PaulCranswick: Yes, karelian pierogi are filled with rice porridge (the dough is made from rye flour) and is served with melted butter and chopped hardboiled eggs. It sounds odd but it's delicious. I live i an area that has a fair amount of Finnish culture in it so it's sometimes served at fairs or sold in supermarkets.

>127 kac522: Lutfisk is so good though! The fish itself doesn't actually taste of much but the combination of the fish, bechamel sauce, potatoes, peas and allspice (that's how we eat it in my neck of the woods) is amazing. It wouldn't be Christmas without lutfisk.

130PaulCranswick
Feb 28, 2025, 6:14 am

>129 PawsforThought: Thanks for the comments, Paws.

I figured that Reindeer would be part of your diet in Northern Sweden given the close proximity to Northern Finland which featured reindeer in the websites I saw. The pierogi I have it on good authority also is delicious and I would like to try them one day.

131Kristelh
Edited: Feb 28, 2025, 6:49 am

I would gladly eat reindeer. I like venison and have eaten deer, moose and elk.

And I like Lingonberry jam.

132mnleona
Feb 28, 2025, 6:55 am

We used to have Lutfisk on Christmas Eve but not any more. Not a fish for everyone.
My husband had a father who was Swedish and his mother was Norwegian. Christmas Eve we have Swedish Meatballs and other Scandinavian food. There is a meat store in Minneapolis that sells the Scandinavian food for Christmas like the Swedish Meatball mix.
>117 Kristelh: When I saw Northern, I thought you might be from Minnesota as they catch them here.
Our cruise this year will go to Sweden, Finland, and Denmark among other countries. I have never been to Finland so looking forward to visiting there.

133Kristelh
Feb 28, 2025, 7:02 am

> 132. Yes, Leona, I am from Minnesota. After I typed Northern and posted. I thought maybe I should have called it Northern Pike. My husband’s family is Norwegian and we always had Scandinavian Christmas Eve. I am sure you’ll enjoy your cruise. Sounds great.

134PawsforThought
Feb 28, 2025, 8:10 am

>131 Kristelh: Reindeer has a somewhat stronger flavour than moose, and much stronger than deer.

And lingonberry jam is used here in a similar way that sweet and sours sauces are used in certain Asian cuisines (as it too is both sweet and sour). Hence why it works well with savoury foods.

>132 mnleona: Do you know the precise towns/cities you'll be stopping on your cruise?

135mnleona
Mar 1, 2025, 8:05 am

>134 PawsforThought:. It is a Baltic cruise on MSC Cruise Line. I have cruised with them many times.
We begin in Germany then we will go to Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland. Not in that order. Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Poland are countries I have not visited. You Tube (free channel) has videos and these ports.
> 131 My daughter always gets the lingonberry jam at Christmas.

136kac522
Mar 1, 2025, 2:40 pm

We may be done with the Nordic tour for February, but don't forget--next week is Shrove Tuesday, aka Fat Tuesday, Mardi Gras and the beginning of Lent. Be sure to enjoy a semla, a traditional Swedish pastry for Lent:

137PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 4:53 pm

>136 kac522: That does look great!

138alcottacre
Mar 1, 2025, 4:55 pm

>128 kac522: I watched that video of Hedda Gabler recently too, Kathy. What a topnotch cast it had!

Evidently if you are vegetarian or vegan in Nordic countries you are just out of luck. I would be starving, lol. Maybe I should move there and never eat. I might lose those last 20 pounds!

139Matke
Mar 1, 2025, 4:56 pm

Mmm
semla. Looks yummy!

I didn’t get to my other book for this month’s leg of the tour.

I expect my reading numbers to be low next month, since I’ll be reading that choice (The Royal Physician’s Visit, The Makioka Sisters,and something from the next leg of the tour.

I really need to stop fiddling away my time.

140PawsforThought
Mar 1, 2025, 5:12 pm

>137 PaulCranswick: Aside from the sweet wheat buns and whipped cream obvious from the picture, semlor (that’s the plural form) are filled with almond paste (which is why I generally don’t eat them).

>138 alcottacre: Au contraire, Stasia. While the traditional foods are very heavy on meat and fish, there are loads of vegetarians and vegans in the Nordics and plenty of restaurants cater specifically to that. I don’t think I’ve been to a single restaurant in the past decade that didn’t have at least two vegetarian dishes, and they can usually be adjusted for vegans if asked.

141PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 5:16 pm

The Grand European Tour thread is up for March and we are joining the long queues in the Warsaw Pact!

https://www.librarything.com/topic/368897

142PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 5:17 pm

>140 PawsforThought: Depending on strength and consistency, Paws, I actually like almond paste so I would go for it.

143PawsforThought
Mar 1, 2025, 5:21 pm

>142 PaulCranswick: Most people I know love it but while I love almonds, I find that the bitter almond flavour always breaks through in almond paste and I find that gag-inducing so steer clear.

144PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 5:55 pm

>143 PawsforThought: Sort of at the intersection of almond flavour and marzipan? I wouldn't want the flavour to be too strong.

145kac522
Mar 1, 2025, 6:29 pm

>143 PawsforThought:, >144 PaulCranswick: Where we get our semlor, the cream has a light almond flavor, and only a small amount of very light almond paste inside the bun. It is not the heavy taste of marzipan at all.

146PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 6:38 pm

>145 kac522: Order me a batch, Kathy!!

147kac522
Mar 1, 2025, 6:41 pm

>146 PaulCranswick: They wouldn't be the same by the time they got half-way round the world, Paul....you'll just have to come to Chicago (or Sweden).

148kac522
Mar 1, 2025, 6:45 pm

>138 alcottacre: The Hedda Gabler DVD I borrowed from the library had the The Lady from the Sea as a bonus, which I didn't discover until I put it in the machine! Both plays focus on a married woman haunted by a past relationship, but Ibsen has two completely different outcomes. Interestingly, they were written only 2 years apart: The Lady from the Sea in 1888 and Hedda Gabler in 1890.

149PaulCranswick
Mar 1, 2025, 6:48 pm

>147 kac522: Well I have plans to do just that!

150PawsforThought
Mar 1, 2025, 7:33 pm

>144 PaulCranswick: Marzipan has a bit more sugar (and is dyed, obviously), otherwise it’s the same thing.

>145 kac522: Then you have different types of semlor than we do! The whipped cream is plain (or possibly with a touch of vanilla sugar in it, no almond anything) and the almond filling is either dense (bakery style) or mixed with some of the bun innards and a tiny bit of cream to make it possible to combine the two (homemade style).

>149 PaulCranswick: Make sure you come at the right time of year. While there are some places that do year-round semlor, most only serve them from around mid-January (or later) to about mid-March.

151alcottacre
Mar 1, 2025, 7:42 pm

>140 PawsforThought: That is good to know, Paws, in case I am ever in the neighborhood :)

>148 kac522: I have never even heard of The Lady from the Sea. I will have to see if I can locate a copy.

152kac522
Edited: Mar 1, 2025, 10:27 pm

>150 PawsforThought: I'm not surprised, as traditional foods from all over the world are often slightly adapted to appeal to the tastes of Americans. And even adapted locally, so our Chicago semla may be different from a Minnesota semla. Don't get me started on pizza.....

153PaulCranswick
Mar 2, 2025, 12:37 am

>150 PawsforThought: Thanks for that Paws. Sweden will be our first destination when I am back in the UK.

154PawsforThought
Mar 2, 2025, 3:51 am

And for the Nordiphiles out there, as today is the first Sunday in March Vasaloppet is being held today. Vasaloppet is the oldest ski race in the world (101 years) and has the highest number of participants. The course runs 90 km between the towns of SĂ€len and Mora in Dalarna. The inspiration for the race was a (possibly apocryphal) journey made by (then future) King Gustav Vasa trying to escape the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Danes back in the early 1520s.
Millions of people in Sweden are following the race and if you want to join in the festivities, the most appropriate thing to do is drink a cup of blueberry soup (the skiers are all offered blueberry soup along the route).

155mnleona
Mar 2, 2025, 7:33 am

>154 PawsforThought: I found some Vasaloppet videos on YouTube (free channel) and also found:
"Vasaloppet USA
YouTube · Vasaloppet USA
80+ followers
Official channel for Vasaloppet USA Nordic (Cross Country) ski race held annually in Mora, Minnesota USA."
Mora, Minnesota is near me.

156PawsforThought
Mar 2, 2025, 10:49 am

>155 mnleona: Planning on participating in the race? ;)

157mnleona
Mar 2, 2025, 2:00 pm

>156 PawsforThought: No but I will watch the news about it.

158PawsforThought
Mar 18, 2025, 2:23 pm

Well, it’s not February but I read a work for the theme of the month.

Jeppe pÄ berget (Jeppe on the Hill) is a satirical play from the early 1700s by Danish write Ludwig Holberg.