2026 GROUP READ - F. Paul Wilson's Secret History of the World
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1blackdogbooks
Welcome to the 2026 Group Read for F. Paul Wilson’s series The Secret History of the World.
I will be your 'guide' for this adventure, but I've had quite a bit of help another 75’er, amanda4242. She very kindly helped me to put together the reading list below. You may also refer to Wilson’s website for a reading list here: https://repairmanjack.com/books/the-secret-history-of-the-world/
This is not a very structured group read – no specific goals like titles per month or anything like that. Everyone should just read at their own pace, and post at their own pace. And, please, post your thoughts and reviews and progress as you go along, always minding the SPOILER for those not reading at your pace. My personal goal is to read at a pace so as to use the whole year to read the series.
The Past
Demonsong (Prehistory)
This short story/novella can be found in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World. There is an original stand-alone publication available at some used book sites, but it’s quite collectible and the prices I’ve seen are above $100. Another option is to find it electronically – one option is Smashwords. Here’s a link: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23892
It’s also available on Kindle and Nook. Thanks to amanda 4242 for the link and suggestions for availability.
The Compendium of Srem (1498)
This short story/novella is a bit hard to find, as I can’t find any collections in which it was included. I was able to find an inexpensive copy at Otto Penzler’s bookstore in NYC, The Mysterious Bookshop. But it may be available elsewhere.
Wardenclyffe (1903-1906)
Aryans and Absinthe (1923-1924)
This short story can be found in a couple of collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities. The latter is an interesting collection in its own right, as it has lengthy interludes from Wilson about his life in chronological context with the writings.
Black Wind (1926-1945)
The Keep (1941) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Reborn (February-March 1968) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Dat Tay Vao (March 1968) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel The Touch, which falls much later in the chronology. So, I’m going to be reading the short story here. It can be found in a couple of different collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and Soft and Others: 16 Stories of Wonder and Dread. The latter is actually Wilson’s first published collection, and may have been reprinted to include as many as 21 collected stories.
Jack: Secret Histories (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
This one and the two following were nominally published as YA titles, as they cover Repairman Jack’s young life.
Jack: Secret Circles (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
Jack: Secret Vengeance (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
Faces (1988)
This short story can be found in a couple of collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
Cold City (1990) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Dark City (1991) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Fear City (1993) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Fix (2006)
This novella was a mash-up/meet-up story with a female assassin, Codename: Chandler, that has her own series as written by J.A. Konrath and Ann Voss Peterson. The novella is the first one in a collection of three, Fix, Rescue, Free: Three Complete Thriller Novellas (Codename: Chandler)
Year Zero Minus Three
Sibs (February)
The Tomb (summer) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle and Repairman Jack
The Barrens(ends in September)
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
A Day in the Life (October)
Short story collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack and The Barrens and Others.
The Long Way Home
Short story collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Legacies (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero Minus Two
Interlude at Duane’s (April)
Short story collected in Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities and Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Home Repairs – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel Conspiracies. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Conspiracies (April) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Last Rakosh – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel All the Rage. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
All the Rage (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Hosts (June) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Haunted Air (August) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Upwelling (August) – Subseries: The Hidden
F. Paul Wilson’s Repairman Jack: Scar-Lip Redux (August) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This is a graphic novel.
Lexie (August) – Subseries: The Hidden
Gateways (September) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Crisscross (November) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Infernal (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero Minus One
Harbingers (January) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Infernal Night (with Heather Graham) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Another mash-up, this time Repairman Jack goes up against Michael Quinn of Heather Graham’s Cafferty and Quinn series. It can be found in a collection entitled Faceoff ed. by David Baldacci.
Bloodline (April) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Fifth Harmonic (April)
Panacea (April) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
By the Sword (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The God Gene (May) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
Ground Zero (July) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Touch (ends in August) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
The Void Protocol (September) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
The Peabody-Ozymandias Traveling Circus & Oddity Emporium (ends in September)
Tenants
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
The Last Christmas (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero
Pelts
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
Reprisal (ends in February) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
The Wringer – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel Fatal Error. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Fatal Error (February) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Double Threat (February-March) – Subseries: Duad
Double Dose (March) – Subseries: Duad
The Dark at the End (March) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Signalz (May) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Nightworld (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack and Adversary Cycle
There are alternate versions of this novel; you’ll want the more recent expended version, Nightworld {Revised} (Adversary Cycle). Or you can choose your poison; or read both.
One title you saw several times is a collection, Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities. While the other oddities are not specifically part of the series, there are fairly long interludes dropped in by Wilson to discuss his work in the context of his life. They are quite interesting, and I read that book in December as an appetizer. If you're interested in some of the tidbits from that book, you can go to our PREP THREAD from 2025 to see the things I pulled out.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/375083#n9046380
Looking forward to seeing a bunch of you nerd out with us!!!!
I will be your 'guide' for this adventure, but I've had quite a bit of help another 75’er, amanda4242. She very kindly helped me to put together the reading list below. You may also refer to Wilson’s website for a reading list here: https://repairmanjack.com/books/the-secret-history-of-the-world/
This is not a very structured group read – no specific goals like titles per month or anything like that. Everyone should just read at their own pace, and post at their own pace. And, please, post your thoughts and reviews and progress as you go along, always minding the SPOILER for those not reading at your pace. My personal goal is to read at a pace so as to use the whole year to read the series.
The Past
Demonsong (Prehistory)
This short story/novella can be found in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World. There is an original stand-alone publication available at some used book sites, but it’s quite collectible and the prices I’ve seen are above $100. Another option is to find it electronically – one option is Smashwords. Here’s a link: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/23892
It’s also available on Kindle and Nook. Thanks to amanda 4242 for the link and suggestions for availability.
The Compendium of Srem (1498)
This short story/novella is a bit hard to find, as I can’t find any collections in which it was included. I was able to find an inexpensive copy at Otto Penzler’s bookstore in NYC, The Mysterious Bookshop. But it may be available elsewhere.
Wardenclyffe (1903-1906)
Aryans and Absinthe (1923-1924)
This short story can be found in a couple of collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities. The latter is an interesting collection in its own right, as it has lengthy interludes from Wilson about his life in chronological context with the writings.
Black Wind (1926-1945)
The Keep (1941) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Reborn (February-March 1968) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Dat Tay Vao (March 1968) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel The Touch, which falls much later in the chronology. So, I’m going to be reading the short story here. It can be found in a couple of different collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and Soft and Others: 16 Stories of Wonder and Dread. The latter is actually Wilson’s first published collection, and may have been reprinted to include as many as 21 collected stories.
Jack: Secret Histories (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
This one and the two following were nominally published as YA titles, as they cover Repairman Jack’s young life.
Jack: Secret Circles (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
Jack: Secret Vengeance (1983) – Subseries: Repairman Jack YA
Faces (1988)
This short story can be found in a couple of collections – Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
Cold City (1990) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Dark City (1991) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Fear City (1993) – Subseries: Repairman Jack Early Years
Fix (2006)
This novella was a mash-up/meet-up story with a female assassin, Codename: Chandler, that has her own series as written by J.A. Konrath and Ann Voss Peterson. The novella is the first one in a collection of three, Fix, Rescue, Free: Three Complete Thriller Novellas (Codename: Chandler)
Year Zero Minus Three
Sibs (February)
The Tomb (summer) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle and Repairman Jack
The Barrens(ends in September)
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
A Day in the Life (October)
Short story collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack and The Barrens and Others.
The Long Way Home
Short story collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Legacies (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero Minus Two
Interlude at Duane’s (April)
Short story collected in Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities and Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Home Repairs – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel Conspiracies. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Conspiracies (April) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Last Rakosh – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel All the Rage. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
All the Rage (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Hosts (June) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Haunted Air (August) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Upwelling (August) – Subseries: The Hidden
F. Paul Wilson’s Repairman Jack: Scar-Lip Redux (August) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This is a graphic novel.
Lexie (August) – Subseries: The Hidden
Gateways (September) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Crisscross (November) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Infernal (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero Minus One
Harbingers (January) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Infernal Night (with Heather Graham) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Another mash-up, this time Repairman Jack goes up against Michael Quinn of Heather Graham’s Cafferty and Quinn series. It can be found in a collection entitled Faceoff ed. by David Baldacci.
Bloodline (April) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Fifth Harmonic (April)
Panacea (April) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
By the Sword (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The God Gene (May) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
Ground Zero (July) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
The Touch (ends in August) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
The Void Protocol (September) – Subseries: ICE Sequence
The Peabody-Ozymandias Traveling Circus & Oddity Emporium (ends in September)
Tenants
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
The Last Christmas (December) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Year Zero
Pelts
Short story collected in Secret Stories: Tales from the Secret History of the World and The Barrens and Others.
Reprisal (ends in February) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
The Wringer – Subseries: Repairman Jack
This short story was later expanded to compose the novel Fatal Error. So, I’ll be reading the short story first – it’s collected in Quick Fixes: Tales of Repairman Jack.
Fatal Error (February) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Double Threat (February-March) – Subseries: Duad
Double Dose (March) – Subseries: Duad
The Dark at the End (March) – Subseries: Repairman Jack
Signalz (May) – Subseries: Adversary Cycle
Nightworld (May) – Subseries: Repairman Jack and Adversary Cycle
There are alternate versions of this novel; you’ll want the more recent expended version, Nightworld {Revised} (Adversary Cycle). Or you can choose your poison; or read both.
One title you saw several times is a collection, Aftershock & Others: 19 Oddities. While the other oddities are not specifically part of the series, there are fairly long interludes dropped in by Wilson to discuss his work in the context of his life. They are quite interesting, and I read that book in December as an appetizer. If you're interested in some of the tidbits from that book, you can go to our PREP THREAD from 2025 to see the things I pulled out.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/375083#n9046380
Looking forward to seeing a bunch of you nerd out with us!!!!
3absurdeist
Lurker w/much interest in following The Secret History of the World read along. What an accomplishment just to obtain all these books, dawg!
The Keep is all-time favorite read. I'll reread that one along w/you guys when you get to it.
Will also want to reread Reborn w/you. Confession: I like the Dark Harvest dust jacket! Minority opinion, I know. It reminds me of the menacing Born Again (LP) album cover by Black Sabbath. Got a handful of other novels by Wilson I haven't yet read—will also read those when you get to them.
The Keep is all-time favorite read. I'll reread that one along w/you guys when you get to it.
Will also want to reread Reborn w/you. Confession: I like the Dark Harvest dust jacket! Minority opinion, I know. It reminds me of the menacing Born Again (LP) album cover by Black Sabbath. Got a handful of other novels by Wilson I haven't yet read—will also read those when you get to them.
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>3 absurdeist: glad to see you here, pal!
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Gearing up for the initiation of the read - the first handful all are fairly short form stuff, up through Black Wind. Hoping to get through at least Black Wind, but would ideally like, to get through The Keep, as well, so that I've read a lot of the pre-history and the WWII stuff in January. That way I get to some Jack stuff in February.
7amanda4242
I've got the first couple of short stories and Wardenclyffe loaded to my e-reader, so I'm ready and raring to go!
8blackdogbooks
Happy New Year!
First up, Demonsong, a short story first published in 1979. I got this from a little digging, and form information in the collection from which I read the story, Secret Stories. Wilson seems quite open to providing this backroom stuff, and it's quite fun.
Anyway, Wilson says that he was inspired to write a little sword and sorcery stuff because he'd read all of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories by the id-1970's. He initially planned to publish the story in a magazine that went bust, so he offered it to Gerald Page for a collection titled Heroic Fantasy that was published by Daw books in 1979. {That one was only published in paperback, and there are a few copies for the interested on ThriftBooks for between $12 and $25.}
Wilson said he wants do something new by writing the story without the typical swordplay. The result is a fun and short read. I'm not particularly partial to sword and sorcery, but this was not a hardboiled attempt, as most are.
Wilson also says that this cornerstone story to the Secret History of the World is important because the main characters have a connection to a later work, The Keep.
1 down.
First up, Demonsong, a short story first published in 1979. I got this from a little digging, and form information in the collection from which I read the story, Secret Stories. Wilson seems quite open to providing this backroom stuff, and it's quite fun.
Anyway, Wilson says that he was inspired to write a little sword and sorcery stuff because he'd read all of Robert E. Howard's Conan stories by the id-1970's. He initially planned to publish the story in a magazine that went bust, so he offered it to Gerald Page for a collection titled Heroic Fantasy that was published by Daw books in 1979. {That one was only published in paperback, and there are a few copies for the interested on ThriftBooks for between $12 and $25.}
Wilson said he wants do something new by writing the story without the typical swordplay. The result is a fun and short read. I'm not particularly partial to sword and sorcery, but this was not a hardboiled attempt, as most are.
Wilson also says that this cornerstone story to the Secret History of the World is important because the main characters have a connection to a later work, The Keep.
1 down.
9blackdogbooks
The Compendium of Srem was a neat, if diminutive, contribution to the Secret History of the World - hereinafter referred to as SHW. It involves a book like no other book, one that falls into the hands of the Inquisitors in Avila, Spain. Wilson dates the story in the SHW at 1498. There are some ominous implications in the resolution of the book that seem clearly intended to see the reemergence of the book at some other point during the SHW - we'll have to keeper eyes peeled.
I'm unsure of the original publication of the novella, or when Wilson wrote it. None of the searches I made turned up any information.
After a couple of short form works, and having read some other short form from Wilson along with one novel, he impresses me with his ability to shape shift into any genre without seeing a reduction in the quality of the work. In this one he wrote confidently and interestingly about the Spanish Inquisition, without taking the bait other writers might to assume a voice to convince the reader. he just writes good readable stories and can mimic any of the important bits from the genre without losing his own voice. The other writers I've found who can do that are Margaret Atwood and Robert Heinlein.
Next up, Wardenclyffe.
I'm unsure of the original publication of the novella, or when Wilson wrote it. None of the searches I made turned up any information.
After a couple of short form works, and having read some other short form from Wilson along with one novel, he impresses me with his ability to shape shift into any genre without seeing a reduction in the quality of the work. In this one he wrote confidently and interestingly about the Spanish Inquisition, without taking the bait other writers might to assume a voice to convince the reader. he just writes good readable stories and can mimic any of the important bits from the genre without losing his own voice. The other writers I've found who can do that are Margaret Atwood and Robert Heinlein.
Next up, Wardenclyffe.
10amanda4242
>9 blackdogbooks: Wikipedia and ISFDB both give the publication date as 2018.
11blackdogbooks
>10 amanda4242: that’s what the copyright is on the published version I read, but I seemed to remember a reference somewhere that he wrote it earlier. Though I might have a faulty memory on that.
Isn’t ISFDB the coolest!?!?!
Isn’t ISFDB the coolest!?!?!
12amanda4242
>11 blackdogbooks: It's such a great site! It's where I found the publication histories for all the short stories.
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>10 amanda4242: I surfed the forum on repairmanjack.com and there was talk of Srem as early as 2013, but no one could figure out where to find it at that point. So, it's at least written a little earlier. To be fair, I may be conflating the sidebar from Wilson on Demon Song, where he talks about writing that one toward the end of the 70s. But I'm gonna keep looking through the forums to see if I can locate some additional intel on written dates for it.
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>10 amanda4242: I found an entry on the forums from FPW that says The Compendium of Srem was published as an eBook on 9/23/2014. I think that's the earliest publication, and I think it must have been written close in time to that.
15amanda4242
>14 blackdogbooks: Well, I feel silly: 2014 is the date in my e-book. I don't know why I went to outside sources instead of just looking at the copyright page to begin with!
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That always leaves me soooo curious.
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Wardenclyffe owes a lot to H. P. Lovecraft, and admits it toward the end of the novella when the narrator haas a conversation with Nikolai Tesla about a young man, recently deceased, who published stories in nature similar to the events they'd experienced - they bemoan it as another reason for regretting their actions.
The story covers Tesla's attempts to use a tower, now referred to by the name of the place where it was erected, to bring wireless power to the world. FPW uses these real world events to highlight the secret history of what happened there and how it relates to the larger secret history of the world. There's a plot twist in the story (no spoilers) that obviously dates the writing of the novella to our times now, but it fits in quite beautifully while also being a political/social comment.
Again, I loved reading FPW slip into another time and place effortlessly. There's stated connections to The Compendium of Srem that you won't be able to miss at some point, and this story seems to set up the larger battle in the secret history quite nicely.
Up next: Aryans and Absinthe.
The story covers Tesla's attempts to use a tower, now referred to by the name of the place where it was erected, to bring wireless power to the world. FPW uses these real world events to highlight the secret history of what happened there and how it relates to the larger secret history of the world. There's a plot twist in the story (no spoilers) that obviously dates the writing of the novella to our times now, but it fits in quite beautifully while also being a political/social comment.
Again, I loved reading FPW slip into another time and place effortlessly. There's stated connections to The Compendium of Srem that you won't be able to miss at some point, and this story seems to set up the larger battle in the secret history quite nicely.
Up next: Aryans and Absinthe.
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Amanda, i saw your comments about Srem, have you tackled Wardenclyffe yet? I’m about 2/3 through Black Wind - I don’t know if you have that one?
And Doc says he’s gonna join with The Keep.
And Doc says he’s gonna join with The Keep.
20amanda4242
>19 blackdogbooks: I hope to get to Wardenclyffe this weekend, and Black Wind before the end of the month.
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I carved out a bit of time and have now read through Aryans and Absinthe!
Demonsong: It's better than I remember. Reminds me of the better class of 1980s' sword and sorcery movies.
The Compendium of Srem: This one reads kind of like a filler, but Wilson manages to balance the historical setting with the needs of his series pretty well.
Wardenclyffe: A very good horror novella. As @blackdogbooks said, the Lovecraft influence is strong, but it works perfectly with Wilson's Secret History.
I'm really glad that this was not the first book I'd ever read in the series. As someone who already has knowledge of later events it was great to see the Lady, the Order of Septimus, and even the chew wasps; however, if I didn't already know their roles, I could easily see myself dismissing this as tantalizing, but incomplete.
Aryans and Absinthe: This one isn't as important to the lore of the series, but in a way I find it one of the most terrifying entries. The way Drexler just plays with the fate of the world is chilling.
I should be able to start Black Wind in a day or two.
Demonsong: It's better than I remember. Reminds me of the better class of 1980s' sword and sorcery movies.
The Compendium of Srem: This one reads kind of like a filler, but Wilson manages to balance the historical setting with the needs of his series pretty well.
Wardenclyffe: A very good horror novella. As @blackdogbooks said, the Lovecraft influence is strong, but it works perfectly with Wilson's Secret History.
I'm really glad that this was not the first book I'd ever read in the series. As someone who already has knowledge of later events it was great to see the Lady, the Order of Septimus, and even the chew wasps; however, if I didn't already know their roles, I could easily see myself dismissing this as tantalizing, but incomplete.
Aryans and Absinthe: This one isn't as important to the lore of the series, but in a way I find it one of the most terrifying entries. The way Drexler just plays with the fate of the world is chilling.
I should be able to start Black Wind in a day or two.
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>21 amanda4242: This is pretty interesting to me - because I have to admit, this is my first time reading most of these books. Years and years ago, I read Legacies and was deeply hooked. But I'm a completist, a term I learned from Doc, and had to have it all before I started reading any further. It's been a long road to collecting up all of these books.
So, I think that's why I didn't read Srem as filler, because it's all pretty new to me. And reading Wardenclyffe as a newbie didn't feel incomplete at all - to be fair, though, I loved the Lovecraft feel. I think, knowing the set up of a larger history, I suspected that much of what I was reading would connect and recur, as well.
Agreed, on Drexler in the short - that's especially true for me because I read several histories WWII and Nazi histories last year. The dream sequences were especially grim, the stylized version of the horrors of the holocaust pre-visioned.
So, I think that's why I didn't read Srem as filler, because it's all pretty new to me. And reading Wardenclyffe as a newbie didn't feel incomplete at all - to be fair, though, I loved the Lovecraft feel. I think, knowing the set up of a larger history, I suspected that much of what I was reading would connect and recur, as well.
Agreed, on Drexler in the short - that's especially true for me because I read several histories WWII and Nazi histories last year. The dream sequences were especially grim, the stylized version of the horrors of the holocaust pre-visioned.
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Completed Black Wind late on Friday. I can see some folks who are reading it for the first time without reference to the larger history might get a little bogged down, as it's a very epic, sweeping history of three people's interconnectedness through the build up to WW II. But I found it gripping, if only a little tiresome in the back and forth with the love angles. Again, that push/pull might seem a little contrived to a reader who doesn't understand the larger forces at work in the SHW. But I absolutely loved the take on the build up to hostilities between Japan and the USA so refreshing. That might be because my own reading never includes histories about the angle of things, but this was a great introduction on the historical side - I found FPW's research quite impressive, folding historical events into the narrative.
Looking forward to hearing your take on this one Amanda, as I suspect you've already read it??? I'm wondering if the secret society in this one connects up to Septimus in any way? And if it survives in some way rather than being consumed in the ages with the ending.
Gonna read a couple other things but probably will get to The Keep soon and try to finish it before the end of the month.
Looking forward to hearing your take on this one Amanda, as I suspect you've already read it??? I'm wondering if the secret society in this one connects up to Septimus in any way? And if it survives in some way rather than being consumed in the ages with the ending.
Gonna read a couple other things but probably will get to The Keep soon and try to finish it before the end of the month.
24amanda4242
>22 blackdogbooks: I'm a completist, too, but one who prefers to read in publication order for the first time. When I read in chronological order I often feel like I'm getting answers to questions that haven't been asked yet, which I find frustrating.
>23 blackdogbooks: I've never read Black Wind, but will be rectifying that within the week.
>23 blackdogbooks: I've never read Black Wind, but will be rectifying that within the week.
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Been thinking more about Wardenclyffe - in addition to HPL, there's a similarity to some of Uncle Stevie's stories, particularly The Dark Tower series. I suspect that's because Uncle Stevie was also referencing HPL with his stories. But he has similar monsters tear through what he calls a "thinny." The monsters are very Lovecraftian, and the idea of tearing into this world from another is classic HPL and, by reference, FPW. The Uncle Stevie stories I'm thinking of in the series or related to the series are The Mist and The Wastelands and The Talisman, but there's a lot of it throughout the series.
Been thinking about it because I want to do a similar read through in some chronological order of the series and all related works next year, so I've been reading some reference books and doing some research.
I think Doc is also a fan of The Dark Tower; what about you Amanda???
Been thinking about it because I want to do a similar read through in some chronological order of the series and all related works next year, so I've been reading some reference books and doing some research.
I think Doc is also a fan of The Dark Tower; what about you Amanda???
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>25 blackdogbooks: I never got around to reading all of The Dark Tower books—I got interrupted at the beginning of book four—but I liked what I'd read. I'd been down for a group read next year.
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>26 amanda4242: That's great, even if you only wanted to join in on the basic series. But I am planning another epic reading of the basic series and all the related works. I may start a planning thread next month to give people a glimpse of what it would entail and then everyone can decide what path they want to take.d
Interesting, that you got interrupted on Book 4 - that one has a significant circle back in time, and a lot of folks get hung up there.
Interesting, that you got interrupted on Book 4 - that one has a significant circle back in time, and a lot of folks get hung up there.
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>27 blackdogbooks: People kept interrupting me while I was trying to read, and when I got back to it I realized that too much time had passed for me to pick up where I'd left off.
I'll definitely join for the main series, but I want to know how many door-stoppers are included in the related works before I commit to them.
I'll definitely join for the main series, but I want to know how many door-stoppers are included in the related works before I commit to them.
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>28 amanda4242: Biblios Interruptus, a species we must deal with.
Yeah, there’s some door-stoppers, indeed. But also some short stuff. So you can pick your poison.
More later when I finish my current research related read The Road to the Dark Tower.
Yeah, there’s some door-stoppers, indeed. But also some short stuff. So you can pick your poison.
More later when I finish my current research related read The Road to the Dark Tower.
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Fellow readers - I'm taking a short break but will pick up The Keep this weekend!
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>30 blackdogbooks: Maybe I'll be through Black Wind by then!
32absurdeist
I should be working out here by the pool this sunny afternoon in southern Cali, but instead I've started The Keep.
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Yay!! I’m starting tomorrow. Screw working.
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>33 blackdogbooks: Ha—easy for a retired man to say!
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>34 absurdeist: Books are more important!!!!
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>32 absurdeist: You have sun?! No fair! I'm in central California and am fogged in.
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>35 blackdogbooks: true, you got me.
>36 amanda4242: oh no! Yep, sunny and 80. I'd prefer fog and rain, actually. Where in central Cali are you?
The Keep opens w/the Nazis. This is one of those rare horror novels in which I can't help but root for the ancient monster against the Nazis.
>36 amanda4242: oh no! Yep, sunny and 80. I'd prefer fog and rain, actually. Where in central Cali are you?
The Keep opens w/the Nazis. This is one of those rare horror novels in which I can't help but root for the ancient monster against the Nazis.
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>37 absurdeist: I'm near Fresno, and trust me you do not want tule fog.
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I’ve got a couple of things to finish this weekend, then will start The Keep. Fortunately, it’s snowing, so I won’t be busy with things like taking the Christmas decorations down outside!
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I think we are all about to launch or just launched The Keep - I made a new vampire bookmark to use for the read! Looking forward to it, probably this afternoon.
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What a great and anxiety filled beginning to the book. FPW unleashes evil at the end of the second chapter with the wonderful line, “The horror had begun.” Interesting that what looses the horror is greed.
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Struck by FPW’s voice for the lone female character. For the time it’s written, the female has a strong feminist inner life. Rare for the time of writing. I felt the same way when I read The Select. He’s ahead of his time fleshing out that stuff. And he doesn’t do it in an anachronistic way that doesn’t fit with the time setting of the narrative.
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Just hit the end of Chapter 2, saw your quote. It reminded me of LOTR when Tolkien writes “Rohan had come at last”. Even though Tolkien’s scene was one of hope and Wilson’s is the opposite, it’s that dramatic shift with a single short sentence that caught me.
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>43 drneutron: That's a good association!
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As the narrative continues, I'm less enamored of the choices for the female character.
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Finished up The Keep yesterday afternoon - I'm gonna hold my comments for now because I'd like to hear what you guys thought about the ending when you get to it.
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>46 blackdogbooks: I'm about a quarter of the way through, so I'll be done in a couple of days.
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>47 amanda4242: It's no rush, I'm just pretty curious how it lands for you and the others. I really, really liked the book overall.
I may start Reborn before the month is out.
I may start Reborn before the month is out.
49drneutron
It's a reread for me, so can't be spoiled. I'm about halfway through, but stopped reading for the last several days to handle some big events at work. I'll almost certainly finish it this weekend.
Like you, I wasn't so impressed with how Wilson wrote the female character. I think he did better as he matured as a writer in later books, though.
Like you, I wasn't so impressed with how Wilson wrote the female character. I think he did better as he matured as a writer in later books, though.
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>49 drneutron: Agreed, Doc - there were elements here in the early part of the book making her a quite strong female character, but it petered out, especially when she meets up with her guy.
and now I'm wondering if it's a re-read for everyone but me. I'm pretty sure that my pal absurdiest has already read it. And Amanda's read quite a bit of the series. Though she hadn't read Black Wind before.
and now I'm wondering if it's a re-read for everyone but me. I'm pretty sure that my pal absurdiest has already read it. And Amanda's read quite a bit of the series. Though she hadn't read Black Wind before.
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>50 blackdogbooks: I hadn't read The Keep either. But now I have!
Black Wind: This one had me itching to revise it. I liked it, but I really wanted it to have a stronger connection to the mythology of the series: like, where did the sword come from? Did the instructions for the Black Wind originate in the Compendium of Srem? Did the cult have any connection to the Order of Septimus?
The Keep: One heck of a horror novel! The mounting fear, the ethical dilemmas, and the epic showdown were all grand. The only thing I *really* didn't like was how Magda was little more than a sex object for most of the book; she had all the traits necessary to be an interesting character, but barring the end where she's whacking zombie Nazis with the hilt, she's mostly there to either be nearly raped or say "yes, Papa."
Black Wind: This one had me itching to revise it. I liked it, but I really wanted it to have a stronger connection to the mythology of the series: like, where did the sword come from? Did the instructions for the Black Wind originate in the Compendium of Srem? Did the cult have any connection to the Order of Septimus?
The Keep: One heck of a horror novel! The mounting fear, the ethical dilemmas, and the epic showdown were all grand. The only thing I *really* didn't like was how Magda was little more than a sex object for most of the book; she had all the traits necessary to be an interesting character, but barring the end where she's whacking zombie Nazis with the hilt, she's mostly there to either be nearly raped or say "yes, Papa."
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>51 amanda4242:
RE: Black Wind - I totally had the same questions, Amanda, though I was less inclined toward editing, since I haven't read a lot of the later work, which would give me the urge to assimilate. I sorta liked the vague allusion to those connections. Did you like the book otherwise?
RE: The Keep - you nailed it, there was so much potential for Magda, so much he laid the groundwork for in the early third of the book, only to cast it aside and make her a sex object - I didn't like the bodice-ripper passages between Glaeken and her. AND I hated the two page tack-on happy ending!!!! Maybe that was necessary {because I've started Reborn, though I'm too early in it to know for sure} but I rather thought Magda walking off alone was a much, much, much better place to end that book. The tack-on ending totally deflated the epic feel of the battle just ended.
FPW did better with a female heroine in another early work, unconnected to SHW, The Select.
Have you read Reborn, Amanda?
RE: Black Wind - I totally had the same questions, Amanda, though I was less inclined toward editing, since I haven't read a lot of the later work, which would give me the urge to assimilate. I sorta liked the vague allusion to those connections. Did you like the book otherwise?
RE: The Keep - you nailed it, there was so much potential for Magda, so much he laid the groundwork for in the early third of the book, only to cast it aside and make her a sex object - I didn't like the bodice-ripper passages between Glaeken and her. AND I hated the two page tack-on happy ending!!!! Maybe that was necessary {because I've started Reborn, though I'm too early in it to know for sure} but I rather thought Magda walking off alone was a much, much, much better place to end that book. The tack-on ending totally deflated the epic feel of the battle just ended.
FPW did better with a female heroine in another early work, unconnected to SHW, The Select.
Have you read Reborn, Amanda?
53amanda4242
>52 blackdogbooks: I did like Black Wind, although I think it lost some of its momentum in the lead up to Pearl Harbor—hard to build suspense when everyone knows what's going to happen!
I'm with you on the happy ending in The Keep. Wilson could have kept Glaeken's fate unknown, and dealt with it in another book.
I haven't read Reborn yet. The only book in The Adversary Cycle I've read before is Nightworld.
I'm with you on the happy ending in The Keep. Wilson could have kept Glaeken's fate unknown, and dealt with it in another book.
I haven't read Reborn yet. The only book in The Adversary Cycle I've read before is Nightworld.
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>52 blackdogbooks:, >53 amanda4242: Reborn is new for me too. Looks like I can get a copy on Kindle pretty reasonably.
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>54 drneutron: I, of course, recommend you do - the prologue calls back to the ending of The Keep
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>51 amanda4242: Did the cult have any connection to the Order of Septimus?
While not an answer to the question, there is at least a reference to the Japanese cult in the early pages of chapter nine from Reborn.
While not an answer to the question, there is at least a reference to the Japanese cult in the early pages of chapter nine from Reborn.
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Okay, I finished up Reborn - not sure where you guys are, so I won't spoil anything, but FPW writes a great climax! Still struck by how slow the book was building to the final confrontation, but the final confrontation was over the top great, and bloody, and disturbing. Liked the tagged on couple of pages this time much more than the last one.
Next up: Dat Tay Vao the short story.
Next up: Dat Tay Vao the short story.
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>60 drneutron: what did you think of the ‘happy ending’ FPW closed on?
Looking forward to your comments on Reborn.
Looking forward to your comments on Reborn.
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>60 drneutron: Not a fan - it neutralized the horror. I feel like he included it to make the book more movie-appealing.
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>62 drneutron: I feel like he included it to make the book more movie-appealing.
The movie actually changed the ending; it's the only improvement it made!
The movie actually changed the ending; it's the only improvement it made!
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>63 amanda4242: that’s hysterical, Amanda.
Started Secret Histories and less than 100 pages in but it reads fast. Interesting tie ins to the Order and Jack. I’ll be interested in what you all think about the writing style as these next three were specifically marketed as YA.
Started Secret Histories and less than 100 pages in but it reads fast. Interesting tie ins to the Order and Jack. I’ll be interested in what you all think about the writing style as these next three were specifically marketed as YA.
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Finished Jack: Secret Histories last night, quick reading compared to a couple of the others we've had in the read-thru so far.
Think you guys will be happy to see a pretty strong and interesting female character here, though a younger one. Probably because these there 'YA' titles were penned much later in the histories. Also, Very direct connections to Septimus, Jack's first encounter with them, as an early teen. On balance, a good read, with only minor quibbles from me.
Next up: Jack: Secret Vengeance.
Think you guys will be happy to see a pretty strong and interesting female character here, though a younger one. Probably because these there 'YA' titles were penned much later in the histories. Also, Very direct connections to Septimus, Jack's first encounter with them, as an early teen. On balance, a good read, with only minor quibbles from me.
Next up: Jack: Secret Vengeance.
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Got the next up wrong - but I finished Secret Circles and now Secret Vengeance is up next.
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Okay, folks, I've finished the 'YA' Repairman Jack novels. I came to FPW's series by way of one of the later Jack's, Legacies, and that one hooked me to start collecting. So, it's fun tot read about a boy Jack. The stories from all three of the books tie directly into the series, with a Septimus lodge in his hometown, where he eventually ends up doing lawn work. And his best friend, a girl he has a crush on but won't let himself admit its, is obsessed with the SHW. Her name is Weezy, short for Louise, and I hope we see her again. She's a great character.
The first of the books, Secret Histories feels like FPW is trying a bit too hard to write YA, with an over abundance of cultural references and schtick. The second Secret Circles is the best of the trio. And the third, while good, just doesn't have as much connection to the larger series narrative. On balance, I enjoyed them a great deal but they aren't FPW's best work.
I also read the short story Faces, which details a serial killer investigation. The killer is a female, rare in itself. But she's also a monster. She was born in 1968, in Monroe, where we visited in Reborn, and was part of a group of children born monstrously deformed, probably to do with Rasalom's activity too take over the life of an unborn child.
Next up: Cold City - Jack as a young man.
The first of the books, Secret Histories feels like FPW is trying a bit too hard to write YA, with an over abundance of cultural references and schtick. The second Secret Circles is the best of the trio. And the third, while good, just doesn't have as much connection to the larger series narrative. On balance, I enjoyed them a great deal but they aren't FPW's best work.
I also read the short story Faces, which details a serial killer investigation. The killer is a female, rare in itself. But she's also a monster. She was born in 1968, in Monroe, where we visited in Reborn, and was part of a group of children born monstrously deformed, probably to do with Rasalom's activity too take over the life of an unborn child.
Next up: Cold City - Jack as a young man.
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I'm still inching along and have finished a couple more.
Reborn: For a book where most of the action takes place at the end, it's a surprisingly effective thriller.I thought the "abort the antichrist" scene was both horrifying to read and an eminently practical solution to how to stop evil from entering the world. I'm left wondering if the creators of South Park read this book before writing "Woodland Critter Christmas."
Dat-tay-vao: I can see why Wilson kept trying to fit this into a longer work: it reads very much like a prologue.
Secret Histories: And I'm finally to Jack! From a technical standpoint, I think Jack is written too much like a shorter version of his older self, but that doesn't stop me from liking the book. And Weezy is there to remind me that Wilson did get better at writing female characters.
Reborn: For a book where most of the action takes place at the end, it's a surprisingly effective thriller.
Dat-tay-vao: I can see why Wilson kept trying to fit this into a longer work: it reads very much like a prologue.
Secret Histories: And I'm finally to Jack! From a technical standpoint, I think Jack is written too much like a shorter version of his older self, but that doesn't stop me from liking the book. And Weezy is there to remind me that Wilson did get better at writing female characters.
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>68 amanda4242: i think Dat-tay-vao was my least favorite of the short stuff so far. Prologue, maybe, because it felt thin, too rough. But I was glad for a little explanation.
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Have moved into Dark City. Interestingly, it looks like these three Jack as a young man books are written as a running narrative, like three volumes of one book. At least, that's how it seems right now. The Jack as a teen books each had more of a singular story to tell. Its became clear about 100 pages from the end of Cold City that there was now way to tie up all the plot lines. I don't hate it - gives him time to really get deep in each of the plots and characters, and gives Jack a lot of time to grow.
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I’m starting Reborn today. Looks like Amazon’s got pretty much the whole shebang for Kindle except maybe the short fiction.
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You're in for a slow burn, and then a fever dream of transgressive horror explodes near the end. Enjoy!
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So I’m having breakfast with mrsdrneutron, and was mentioning I picked up Reborn. Started talking about Repairman Jack, she let me know he shows up in one of the Joe Ledger books. Turns out Maberry and Wilson linked the Ledger series into the Secret History. Now I need to add those to the list…
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Holy Books, doc!
With a little surfing, I found the talk about it on a Jack forum. Jack shows up in Cave 13. The talk was that you didn't have to read Nightworld to read the Joe Ledger books - so it looks like they would find their place chronologically at the end of our read through list.
With a little surfing, I found the talk about it on a Jack forum. Jack shows up in Cave 13. The talk was that you didn't have to read Nightworld to read the Joe Ledger books - so it looks like they would find their place chronologically at the end of our read through list.
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I finished Fear City, the end of the Jack Young Years. Interestingly, in a note at the back, Wilson says it will be his last, or for a long time, Jack novel. Indeed, save The Last Christmas, it appears most of what he's written since 2014, though part of the SHW, doesn't specifically feature Jack.
This one folds some real life events into the plot, if you've read to this point, it's no surprise that the real life events relate to some terrorist activity. Dubus III tried to do this in The Garden of Last Days and I found it irritating, seeing things from the terrorist perspective. But FPW does it wonderfully, showing their bent perspective without generating too much empathy.
I'm glad I went back to the beginning to read the Jack's in particular in their story order. Nice to see how Jack becomes Jack. FPW isn't shy about battering him about a bit.
Gonna read Fix in Codename: Chandler book. Then, slow down a little bit on the pace of reading these.....if I can?!?!?
This one folds some real life events into the plot, if you've read to this point, it's no surprise that the real life events relate to some terrorist activity. Dubus III tried to do this in The Garden of Last Days and I found it irritating, seeing things from the terrorist perspective. But FPW does it wonderfully, showing their bent perspective without generating too much empathy.
I'm glad I went back to the beginning to read the Jack's in particular in their story order. Nice to see how Jack becomes Jack. FPW isn't shy about battering him about a bit.
Gonna read Fix in Codename: Chandler book. Then, slow down a little bit on the pace of reading these.....if I can?!?!?
76drneutron
About halfway through Reborn. Nice connections with The Keep, not as slow a burner as all that!
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Finished Fix in the Codename: Chandler/Hammett book - Jack is still Jack, even in someone else's hand; I know that FPW wrote most of the Jack sections, but there are a lot of sections where Jack is featured that the other author wrote, and she did a good job of writing him. I wasn't all that impressed with the Chandler character, certainly not enough to seek out that series. But I'll finish the book and see about these two female spies.
Probably going to wait until March before I pick up Sibs.
Probably going to wait until March before I pick up Sibs.
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>76 drneutron: Well, I guess it seemed a slow burn so soon after The Keep. You've got a great horror section ahead!
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Ugh - I decided to finish the Codename: Chandler book, the second novella is awful.
80drneutron
Finished Reborn this evening. Wow, really enjoyed it!
Loved the meta playing with Rosemary’s Baby, both the characters talking about it and the inverted plot. Nicely done.
Loved the meta playing with Rosemary’s Baby, both the characters talking about it and the inverted plot. Nicely done.
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That aborted abortion scene and the scene in the church are some of the best horror I've read - how close to repelling the reader can he go. Chilling - and given the time it was written, I imagine pretty controversial in certain communities.
ETA - I’m surprised this didn’t make the Papebacks From Hell, while The Keep did. It has a lot of the stuff that would have recommended it to that group of books.
ETA - I’m surprised this didn’t make the Papebacks From Hell, while The Keep did. It has a lot of the stuff that would have recommended it to that group of books.
82drneutron
Yeah, I agree it was probably pretty controversial. And yeah, I would have put Reborn instead of The Keep in PFH. The Keep was solid monster horror, but nowhere near as pushing the envelope as Reborn.
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>82 drneutron: What's next for you, Doc?
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>83 blackdogbooks: Jack: Secret History, but not immediately. I've got a couple stacked up I need to finish.
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>84 drneutron: Those Teen Jacks are very quick reads, but I found them a lot of fun.
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The other Codename: Chandler novellas were horrible and stupid - FPW elevated his novella in the grouping by a couple of stratosphere. How do those other ones get published?!?!?!?
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Finished Sibs last night - I'm not sure how this one fits into the SHW series??? I have a couple of possible theories, but there is not anything very clearly connected in the narrative.
The book is definitely a return to a more horror type narrative than the thriller type. It centers around a set of twins, females, both of who appear to be afflicted with Multiple Personality Disorder - but there's something else lurking just under that explanation for their behavior. There are a few seriously creepy scenes. And the main female character is quite well written/realized, in my opinion, even if FPW tries to get some easy credibility for the character by making her an author who wants to write a feminist book - it's a little on the nose. Also, an NYPD detective that is not the complete stereotype that a lot of detectives end up in other thrillers.
Only quibble, some of the plot twists are a little too telegraphed, and so expected when they happen.
Next up: The Tomb.
The book is definitely a return to a more horror type narrative than the thriller type. It centers around a set of twins, females, both of who appear to be afflicted with Multiple Personality Disorder - but there's something else lurking just under that explanation for their behavior. There are a few seriously creepy scenes. And the main female character is quite well written/realized, in my opinion, even if FPW tries to get some easy credibility for the character by making her an author who wants to write a feminist book - it's a little on the nose. Also, an NYPD detective that is not the complete stereotype that a lot of detectives end up in other thrillers.
Only quibble, some of the plot twists are a little too telegraphed, and so expected when they happen.
Next up: The Tomb.
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Okay - I've finished The Tomb, and it was really great - chronologically (real-world chronology), this was the first Repairman Jack novel. So, I read the original text in a 1984 paperback. It was jarring to read the inconsistencies of Jack's age and some other stuff that got rewritten to jive with the now prequel books of Jacks teen and early years - but I'm glad I read the original text.
The book introduces the rakoshi, monsters whom have a deeply buried DNA with early men, but have been bred back to their most violent and instinctive selves. They are controlled by a brother and sister from India, though control is overstating the case. Jack is helping to locate a relative of his current girlfriend, though they are estranged because she's found out what he does for a living. Anyway, it sets up a showdown between Jack and the monsters. It's no spoiler to say that the rakoshi will be back, as there are books on the list that reference them specifically, and subtly in other cases.
Also readThe Barrens - a cosmic horror short with much Lovecraftian vibes. A return to Jack's home, but no Jack in this one. Just an obsessed guy who wants to get a peak at what's behind the veil, and he follows some pine lights to find the right place too lift up the veil - do you think it goes well? Fun to have this return to the Barrens, even without Jack.
Also A Day in the Life - Jack on a short clock, fixing several problems, his own and others', and he's at his creative best getting all the pieces together to let the chips fall where they may.
And The Long Way Home - Jack gets nabbed! Quite the predicament, and quite the trick for him to escape the long arm of the law. Interestingly, he gets caught because he does something noble, but that noble act also saves his bacon in the end.
On to Legacies.
Where's everyone else at?
The book introduces the rakoshi, monsters whom have a deeply buried DNA with early men, but have been bred back to their most violent and instinctive selves. They are controlled by a brother and sister from India, though control is overstating the case. Jack is helping to locate a relative of his current girlfriend, though they are estranged because she's found out what he does for a living. Anyway, it sets up a showdown between Jack and the monsters. It's no spoiler to say that the rakoshi will be back, as there are books on the list that reference them specifically, and subtly in other cases.
Also readThe Barrens - a cosmic horror short with much Lovecraftian vibes. A return to Jack's home, but no Jack in this one. Just an obsessed guy who wants to get a peak at what's behind the veil, and he follows some pine lights to find the right place too lift up the veil - do you think it goes well? Fun to have this return to the Barrens, even without Jack.
Also A Day in the Life - Jack on a short clock, fixing several problems, his own and others', and he's at his creative best getting all the pieces together to let the chips fall where they may.
And The Long Way Home - Jack gets nabbed! Quite the predicament, and quite the trick for him to escape the long arm of the law. Interestingly, he gets caught because he does something noble, but that noble act also saves his bacon in the end.
On to Legacies.
Where's everyone else at?
90drneutron
I’m halfway through Secret Histories. Definitely YA, but good. I’m enjoying the relationship with Louise in this one.
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>90 drneutron: Weezy is so great - I keep hoping she shows back up.
92drneutron
Finished it while at a conference this week. Update coming, but I really enjoyed a look at younger Jack and friends. She does show up in one of the later Repairman Jack books, but I don't remember much about it - hence the reread!
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I'm hoping to get to Secret Vengeance next week.
>91 blackdogbooks: Weezy does show up in one of the later Repairman Jack books.
>91 blackdogbooks: Weezy does show up in one of the later Repairman Jack books.
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>93 amanda4242: I'm very glad to hear that I have some Weezy to look forward too reading.
Finished Legacies last night - this was the book that got me started on Jack many years ago; I stopped reading any of it until I could collect it all up, and the task grew with the years as FPW continued adding to the series. But I've recently learned that FPW is essentially retired because he suffered a stroke and is dealing with aphasia resulting from the event. I'm deeply sorry to hear it.
Anyway, I remembered the 'fix' that starts the book, a caper where a bunch of Christmas toys are stoled from sick kids - Jack outdoes himself with the fix. The larger plot line deals with a murky technology that more than one government/corporate organization is trying to secure from a doctor who's inherited a house where the key to the technology may exist. The doctor is another strong female character, one dealing with a pretty large childhood trauma, which FPW deals with quite well. Haven't said enough about Abe, the character that both helps to ground and to arm Jack in every book. He's a real mensch, and has a discovery here that exhibits his undervalued intelligence.
Onto Interlude at Duane's
Looking forward to hearing what you guys think about the young Jack's when you finish them up.
Finished Legacies last night - this was the book that got me started on Jack many years ago; I stopped reading any of it until I could collect it all up, and the task grew with the years as FPW continued adding to the series. But I've recently learned that FPW is essentially retired because he suffered a stroke and is dealing with aphasia resulting from the event. I'm deeply sorry to hear it.
Anyway, I remembered the 'fix' that starts the book, a caper where a bunch of Christmas toys are stoled from sick kids - Jack outdoes himself with the fix. The larger plot line deals with a murky technology that more than one government/corporate organization is trying to secure from a doctor who's inherited a house where the key to the technology may exist. The doctor is another strong female character, one dealing with a pretty large childhood trauma, which FPW deals with quite well. Haven't said enough about Abe, the character that both helps to ground and to arm Jack in every book. He's a real mensch, and has a discovery here that exhibits his undervalued intelligence.
Onto Interlude at Duane's
Looking forward to hearing what you guys think about the young Jack's when you finish them up.
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Okay - I finished a bunch of the short stuff Interlude at Duane's - Jack caught in an armed robbery, and without any weapons on him. Home Repairs - Jack caught in a domestic dispute gone terribly wrong, which ended up folded into Conspiracies. And The Last Rakosh a Rakosh is found in a freak show by little Vicky as she goes to get cotton candy - Jack vs. Rakosh Part Duex. That one is folded into All the Rage.
Also, finished Conspiracies and what a banger. This connects up to The Keep, Reborn, The Tomb, and the short story Faces. Best way to describer this one without a bunch of spoilers is that Jack gets sucked into a missing person investigation that he must conduct in the midst of a Conspiracy Theory convention. It's a wonderful set-up because so much of the stuff that happens around Jack as it relates to the One and the Secret Order smacks of conspiracy theories. So, Jack begins to doubt his own sanity a little bit, especially in the climatic ending - so cool!
Onto All the Rage.
Also, finished Conspiracies and what a banger. This connects up to The Keep, Reborn, The Tomb, and the short story Faces. Best way to describer this one without a bunch of spoilers is that Jack gets sucked into a missing person investigation that he must conduct in the midst of a Conspiracy Theory convention. It's a wonderful set-up because so much of the stuff that happens around Jack as it relates to the One and the Secret Order smacks of conspiracy theories. So, Jack begins to doubt his own sanity a little bit, especially in the climatic ending - so cool!
Onto All the Rage.
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>96 blackdogbooks: Wow, you're zipping through the series!
I finally started Secret Vengeance last night and may get to finish it today.
I finally started Secret Vengeance last night and may get to finish it today.
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>97 amanda4242: it’s hard to not keep going when I finish a book. I’m trying to force myself to read some other things. But Jack…
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I've enjoyed reading the short stories that were eventually folded into these larger novels - it's cool seeing FPW's mind at work rerouting the stories and changing them up where necessary.
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About halfway through Jack: Secret Circles, enjoying Jack and Weezy’s next adventure.
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>102 drneutron: They are quite enjoyable - the middle one you’re reading now was my favorite.
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Finished All the Rage - an interesting set-up, tried into the Rakoshi narrative from the early books/stories. Without a spoiler, suffice to say that Jack is faced with a street drug that is causing people to lash out in extreme violence. He also helps another female doctor who is worried her mentor is being manipulated by a gangster. As always, everything seems to fold together in the end. And Jack gets face-to-face with Scar-Lip, ending in a quite surprising way this time.
Already into Hosts.
Already into Hosts.
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Finished Secret Circles yesterday. Jumped into Jaws reread, then will hit the third Young Jack.
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Since Conspiracies, all the following Jack's have been related to The Otherness or The Adversary. Hosts is no different, though it comes at it in a bit of a different way. This one is concerned with a virus that is trying to take over the world by using humans as...hosts. We also see the return of Jack's sister, Kate, which is refreshing. There is a character that appears, in a rather supernatural way, as a sort of harbinger, or spirit guide, for Jack - essentially tells him that he is a soldier, the soldier, in the ongoing battle with The Adversary. I have a suspicion who this is, or represents, but I'm not sure yet. We'll have to see if she continues to pop up.
Started The Haunted Air.
Started The Haunted Air.
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>105 drneutron: Never read Jaws myself, doc - though it's on my radar because of its inclusion in Paperbacks From Hell.
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MidWorld Press is publishing a signed, limited edition of The Keep. Wish I had a spare $175.
https://www.midworldpress.com/store/p/the-keep
https://www.midworldpress.com/store/p/the-keep
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>108 amanda4242: Wow, I love the artwork!
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Finished The Haunted Air, which pushes Jack into more supernatural and classic horror territory. There's a cool connection back to The Keep in there. The set-up has Jack working a 'fix' for a couple of con-artist mediums, but their house ends up haunted by the real thing. And it's also clear that Jack is solidly in the fight against the Adversary/Otherness. I keep wondering how far the story-line for Gia, the girlfriend, can go before FPW smacks Jack with some additional pain.
Onto what looks like a non-Jack: The Upwelling.
Onto what looks like a non-Jack: The Upwelling.
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Took a little longer to get started and took my time with The Upwelling. I think that I was hesitating because I knew that this one was not a Jack novel, and I knew I'd miss Jack in the series. But FPW gave me quite a banger with this one - it starts with the news that Atlantic City has been wiped from the face of the earth, and no one has any clue as to what's happened - no one, of course, except those who are attune to the Secret goings on of the Other and it's kind. It's kind because there are indications that there are more than just a couple of cosmic forces at play. The heroes of this one are an FBI agent and a casino employe - friends - who've lost about 10 hours during which the cataclysm took place. They are desperate to regain their memory and learn the cause of the tragic event. There are child abductions and body thefts and corpses that cannot be consumed by fire, along with the Order's resurfacing as a major player. Did I miss Jack? Only for a couple of pages and then I was hooked.
Next up: Scar-Lip Redux.
Next up: Scar-Lip Redux.
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Interesting! I’m looking forward to this one. I’m finishing a mystery, then will pick up the third young Jack.
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I finished Scar-Lip Redux - a graphic novel featuring Jack and the return of the Rakoshi with whom Jack has a complicated relationship. This one is hard to talk about without a spoiler. Suffice to say that the graphic covers Jack's history with Scar-Lip and the return of both Scar-Lip and Oz' freak show. I'm not sure how I felt about the foray into graphics here - a thing that some classic authors seem to do....because of marketing maybe....I'm not sure. Anyway, though I don't have the experience to say, I liked the visuals mostly, particularly of Scar-Lip. Seems like they tried a little too hard to show Jack while not showing Jack - I'm sure that was an FPW requirement - the result is a little messy. Interestingly, Gia ended up looking nothing like I pictured her.
I also finished Lexie, the follow-up to The Upwelling. While it follows our heroes, Chan and Danielle (the FBI agent), it also focuses on one of the children from 'the Family' who is an enhanced child with powers. One of the primary set pieces is a 1940's U-boat discovered in the Antarctic Ice with all the crew, preserved, and murdered. This one, while without jack, is all about The Other and The Ally and the Order. It's another corker with multiple dimensions and conspiracy gurus from the NSA and an extinction level threat. What's interesting to me is that the Jack novels so far seem to shy away from the Order while the corresponding novels dive into the Order. That has to be a choice FPW made.
Up next: Gateways and back to Jack.
I also finished Lexie, the follow-up to The Upwelling. While it follows our heroes, Chan and Danielle (the FBI agent), it also focuses on one of the children from 'the Family' who is an enhanced child with powers. One of the primary set pieces is a 1940's U-boat discovered in the Antarctic Ice with all the crew, preserved, and murdered. This one, while without jack, is all about The Other and The Ally and the Order. It's another corker with multiple dimensions and conspiracy gurus from the NSA and an extinction level threat. What's interesting to me is that the Jack novels so far seem to shy away from the Order while the corresponding novels dive into the Order. That has to be a choice FPW made.
Up next: Gateways and back to Jack.
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>113 blackdogbooks: You liked how Scar-Lip is drawn? I remember him looking like a giant newt.
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>114 amanda4242: Well, I think I liked the overall images, not necessarily his features. Like how he was placed in the scenes.
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I finished Jack: Secret Vengeance today. Really cool to see Jack getting the idea for being out of the system, forming who he'll become.
On to Cold City !
On to Cold City !
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>116 drneutron: the next three for you are like crack!
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Well, since the last week in April, I've finished 4 more of these books.
Gateways is a nice fish outta water tale, with Jack having to take his first plane ride, first trip through TSA, since he dropped out. he is on his way to Florida to see his dad who is in a coma after a hit-and-run accident. Turns out there's a lot more to the accident than just a fender-bender, including a horned monster alligator. jack runs up against a crew of disfigured people who run a little like Dickens' street mob. But they've been living next to a gateway to the other side and it's had some effects. There are some pretty close connections to the larger Other story here. And it's a nice return for a family member, as Jack gets to know his dad and fight along side him.
Crisscross finds Jack up against an international cult as he is enlisted to track down a man missing in the fold of the cult's robe somewhere. So, Jack joins a cult - this is every bit as fun as Jack going to a conspiracy theory convention. Jack teams up with a reporter again, and they dig deep into the beginnings and current operation of the cult - until Jack starts to realize there really are no more coincidences for him. The curtain is parted further than in previous books as to the plans of the Other.
Infernal starts with a devastating death that cripples Jack - no spoilers on the victim. But the event ends up sending Jack on a boat trip to the Bahamas - and he digs up some buried treasure....sorry, ancient evil item. The item threatens jacks life an loves, sending Jack to dig up the Compendium! Had a bit of a nit to pick this one - the ending, though meant as a twist, didn't twist for me. You could pretty much see where this was all going to end up. Another nit, FPW doesn't tell us what Jack does with the Compendium after he uses it. C'mon.
Harbingers - harder and harder not to spoil things, but Jack ends up approached by the MV, the Ally's militia. He goes on a mission with them to save the city from some bombings, and it doesn't go like it would if a loner handled it, so bad taste in Jack's mouth. Then, Jack gets a far peek behind the Ally and the Other's war, one that shakes his view of things to the core. There's lots of danger to Jack's family in this one, and Jack's fix requires some 'sorta' one-on-one time with the Ally. Jack is at his mercenary best in this one because the stakes are so high. And it's no spoiler to say, at this point, that ladies-with-dogs characters are pretty cool, and pretty powerful, if a bit vague in their exposition.
Bit of a break before I more on to Infernal Nights - a short story mash up with another writer.
Gateways is a nice fish outta water tale, with Jack having to take his first plane ride, first trip through TSA, since he dropped out. he is on his way to Florida to see his dad who is in a coma after a hit-and-run accident. Turns out there's a lot more to the accident than just a fender-bender, including a horned monster alligator. jack runs up against a crew of disfigured people who run a little like Dickens' street mob. But they've been living next to a gateway to the other side and it's had some effects. There are some pretty close connections to the larger Other story here. And it's a nice return for a family member, as Jack gets to know his dad and fight along side him.
Crisscross finds Jack up against an international cult as he is enlisted to track down a man missing in the fold of the cult's robe somewhere. So, Jack joins a cult - this is every bit as fun as Jack going to a conspiracy theory convention. Jack teams up with a reporter again, and they dig deep into the beginnings and current operation of the cult - until Jack starts to realize there really are no more coincidences for him. The curtain is parted further than in previous books as to the plans of the Other.
Infernal starts with a devastating death that cripples Jack - no spoilers on the victim. But the event ends up sending Jack on a boat trip to the Bahamas - and he digs up some buried treasure....sorry, ancient evil item. The item threatens jacks life an loves, sending Jack to dig up the Compendium! Had a bit of a nit to pick this one - the ending, though meant as a twist, didn't twist for me. You could pretty much see where this was all going to end up. Another nit, FPW doesn't tell us what Jack does with the Compendium after he uses it. C'mon.
Harbingers - harder and harder not to spoil things, but Jack ends up approached by the MV, the Ally's militia. He goes on a mission with them to save the city from some bombings, and it doesn't go like it would if a loner handled it, so bad taste in Jack's mouth. Then, Jack gets a far peek behind the Ally and the Other's war, one that shakes his view of things to the core. There's lots of danger to Jack's family in this one, and Jack's fix requires some 'sorta' one-on-one time with the Ally. Jack is at his mercenary best in this one because the stakes are so high. And it's no spoiler to say, at this point, that ladies-with-dogs characters are pretty cool, and pretty powerful, if a bit vague in their exposition.
Bit of a break before I more on to Infernal Nights - a short story mash up with another writer.
119drneutron
Heading to Cold City as soon as I finish up the latest Nowhere Man book - midweek, I’m guessing.
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Started Cold City and was a bit surprised at the reference to his mom's murder and the fix-it with Ed . Did I miss something in the sequence? Did a quick search on line, didn't find something that seemed to cover that storyline.
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>120 drneutron: you didn't miss anything - FPW takes what will be the seminal moment in Jack's life and drips it out a little at a time but not in a chronological sequence. There's a big gap in the timeline for Jack's college stint, which would have been interesting. I wonder if he thought he'd do more prequels at some point. But you'll get a lot of references as FPW and Jack return to those events a lot over the books.
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Yeah, I'm following the story, was just curious since it seemed like the was recapping a previous story. I'll bet your right - he intended to do more prequels.
I'm only into the first day of Cold City, but I'm not sure how I feel about early Jack yet. Starting off with the immediate confrontation was interesting choice. Given the seminal event, though, I can understand how he could be quick to violence, but damn...
I't'll be interesting to see how Wilson grows Jack into the more mature person of the later books.
I'm only into the first day of Cold City, but I'm not sure how I feel about early Jack yet. Starting off with the immediate confrontation was interesting choice. Given the seminal event, though, I can understand how he could be quick to violence, but damn...
I't'll be interesting to see how Wilson grows Jack into the more mature person of the later books.
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>122 drneutron: that ‘event’ unlocks a peculiar violence in Jack. It reads different after reading the prequels now because it was only a faint hint in the prequels. But Jack can rock’n’roll in a hot second. Lots of references in the later books to seeing him ‘switch’.
I suspect it’s part of the reason he was chosen.
I suspect it’s part of the reason he was chosen.
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>123 blackdogbooks: Yeah, it'll put later Jack in a whole new light.
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Well, I finally did it - after scouring and patiently waiting on a couple used sites, I finally purchased a copy of Double Dose from Gauntlet Press - thank you a bunch, Amanda, for finding it for me. I was getting too close to that section of the reading list and didn't want to not have the book ready when I needed it.
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I'm back in the game with Jack.
Read the short story Infernal Nights pairing, more than facing-off, with Quinn from a Heather Graham series I'm unfamiliar with. It was great - Jack in New Orleans, suspicious, with good reason, of the person who's lured him there. And there's an Infernal involved, which is right on the heels of a devastating encounter with a separate Infernal in a previous book. It was a good fix for Jack, all taking place in a creepy New Orleans cemetery. It even gave me some interest in Graham's series, as I'm a big fan of narratives set in Nola.
By the way, the anthology where the story appeared is pretty cool, with pairings like Connelly and Lehane or Stine vs. Preston/Child. Lots of familiar characters in Face-Offs.
And I've started Bloodline, which picks up where Harbingers left off, everyone recovering from a pretty intense battle with the Adversary and the Ally's minions.
Read the short story Infernal Nights pairing, more than facing-off, with Quinn from a Heather Graham series I'm unfamiliar with. It was great - Jack in New Orleans, suspicious, with good reason, of the person who's lured him there. And there's an Infernal involved, which is right on the heels of a devastating encounter with a separate Infernal in a previous book. It was a good fix for Jack, all taking place in a creepy New Orleans cemetery. It even gave me some interest in Graham's series, as I'm a big fan of narratives set in Nola.
By the way, the anthology where the story appeared is pretty cool, with pairings like Connelly and Lehane or Stine vs. Preston/Child. Lots of familiar characters in Face-Offs.
And I've started Bloodline, which picks up where Harbingers left off, everyone recovering from a pretty intense battle with the Adversary and the Ally's minions.
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>128 blackdogbooks: That does sound like a fun anthology! I'll add it to my TBR.
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>126 amanda4242: I owe a bigger thank you to Amanda than I thought - got my Double Dose book today; turns out my $60 got me a numbered (5/500) and signed publication from a tiny limited edition press in Colorado Springs. Really well put together edition - I can't even find any copies of this particular edition in the ether to help me evaluate its collectibility.
So, really, thanks, Amanda.
So, really, thanks, Amanda.
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Finished Bloodline - There's a definite feel that FPW is setting up another of his internal trilogies with this one; that the plot lines are going to carry over into the next Jack books. The set-up here is that Gia encourages Jack to get back to work after the devastating end to the last book. Jack picks up an interesting one, a woman wants him to investigate her 18-year-old daughters age-inappropriate boyfriend. Jack is also briefly dispossessed of the Compendium (I was hoping PW would get back to that). Dispossessed by a new-age, nihilistic author who's building what feels like a cult. Of course, it's not a spoiler to say that those two threads will overlap, because, as Jack says now all the time, there are no more coincidences. Interesting twist at the end of this one I won't spoil about Jack and his new mantle. And the end, as I said, is not neatly tied-up.
On to The Fifth Harmonic - a non-Jack title, but those have been really good, too. And it's a slimmer offering.
On to The Fifth Harmonic - a non-Jack title, but those have been really good, too. And it's a slimmer offering.
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Finished Fear City this afternoon. And with that, the Early Jack series. Nice set up for his transition to Repairman Jack!
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>130 blackdogbooks: Glad to be of service!
I've finished Sibs and am really surprised to see you praising its female characters.The entire book is about a man stealing women's bodies for sex. I thought Kara was Wilson's most poorly written female character: despite saying she's a feminist who is literally writing a book on the subject, she does pretty much whatever men tell her to do. Some random guy comes up to her and says he knows her sister? She takes him to lunch and then lets him handle legal matters for her. A sketchy doctor suddenly decides to break confidentiality to say her sister had an incredibly rare disorder and she has it too? She uproots her life to start taking thrice-weekly sessions with him. And then when all her poor decisions catch up with her, men figure out the problem and a man—the only one she should have trusted, but, of course, didn't—has to rescue her.
I'm also kind of pissed that almost every sexual encounter depicted in the book is actually rape and it's never addressed!
Since I read Sibs right after the Repairman Jack: The Early Years subseries, I can't help but compare Kara to Cristin and I find Kara coming up short. Despite Cristin's profession and that we see her mostly when she's meeting Jack for a date, I found her to be a much more rounded character who isn't treated as a mere sex object. She's smart and driven, she has dreams and is working hard towards her goals.
Sorry for the long rant!
I've finished Sibs and am really surprised to see you praising its female characters.
I'm also kind of pissed that almost every sexual encounter depicted in the book is actually rape and it's never addressed!
Since I read Sibs right after the Repairman Jack: The Early Years subseries, I can't help but compare Kara to Cristin and I find Kara coming up short. Despite Cristin's profession and that we see her mostly when she's meeting Jack for a date, I found her to be a much more rounded character who isn't treated as a mere sex object. She's smart and driven, she has dreams and is working hard towards her goals.
Sorry for the long rant!
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>133 amanda4242: You rant all you want, Amanda. But I think you might have over-labeled my comments at 'praise'. In the bit above, I simply said that the main female character, and only her, was 'well written and realized. Not very high praise, but I'd agree that it could be a bit too ambiguous. I suppose I was comparing her to the female in The Keep who seemed written only to serve, only for sex, and had little agency in the narrative of her own. In Sibs, I felt like FPW, at least, wrote a more full character, even though she was still used quite often. I also suppose that I was giving some grace to FPW and the book for the time in which it was written, and the time in which it portrayed. Sure we've come a long way in the females are portrayed and in the way females fit into our culture - with millions of miles to go. But I tried not to bring my current sensibilities to the evaluation of the narrative and the main female character. I guess, on balance, I felt like the Sibs character was a significant improvement on the character from The Keep.
And your point about the female in the young Jack novels is a good one - highlighting that Sibs was written more than a decade earlier than the first of those books.
I don't think we are that far apart on our views, but I enjoyed Sibs more for what it was than did you, and that's just fine.
And your point about the female in the young Jack novels is a good one - highlighting that Sibs was written more than a decade earlier than the first of those books.
I don't think we are that far apart on our views, but I enjoyed Sibs more for what it was than did you, and that's just fine.
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>134 blackdogbooks: As much as I was annoyed at how little Magda had to do in The Keep, she at least had the excuse that she was a prisoner and surrounded by Nazis. Kara had the opportunity for agency, but continually deferred to men.
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>135 amanda4242: Sure, she was surrounded by Nazis at that point, but she'd relinquished her entire life to her father for a long time before that. And I thought Kara showed more will getting out of NYC in the first place and staying away - bad decision to stick around so long when she came back, started her patterns in a bad direction.
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Finished The Fifth Harmonic and I thought this was one of the weaker entries in the SHW. A small town doctor gets cancer and then decides to approach a holistic healer, even though he's skeptical. Maintaining his skepticism, he embarks on a Meso-american tour to collect items of harmonic significance to heal himself, with the healer's help. Found the balance of his skepticism and belief hard to swallow given his actions, and his attraction to the healer relegated her to a rather stereotypical role from which it was hard to recover. The book overall didn't feel well fleshed out.
On to Panacea.
On to Panacea.
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>136 blackdogbooks: I wouldn't say she relinquished her *entire* life. When we first meet her, Magda is collecting folksongs for her field of study; her career is put on hold by a combination of Nazis and the necessity of caring for a father with a terminal illness. She doesn't have much to do in the story beyond be threatened, but she, unlike Kara, is not constantly making stupid choices.
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>122 drneutron: there is another explanation about Jack’s quick violent streak that you will learn about when you get to Bloodline and By the Sword.
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>140 drneutron: Amanda and I have had quite the debate on that one.
Finished Panacea, a much better book than the previous one, told along the same general lines. It's as if FPW realized he'd whiffed and tried again. Here a medical examiner has a couple of bodies that are burned near beyond recognition, but the cause of death is a mystery. Then, another body comes in of a boy who miraculously was cured before a traffic accident. The medical examiner, our hero, is skeptical, but embarks on a quest to find the miracle cure behind all these mysteries. There is, of course, a cultish Catholic/CIA cabal working against her, and a druid-like group protecting the panacea. She is also paired up with a shadowy body guard with his own demons. The ending feels like this one was the start of another of those internal trilogies featuring the same characters and story lines.
I'm hoping that when Amanda gets to this one, she'll agree with me that this medical examiner overcomes our debates about previous female characters. Personally, I fell like FPW has been getting better all along the way, even if he misses the mark pretty far in the early going, save for Weezy. The one nit I'll pick in this book is that ever frequent urge in writers to pair off their male and female heroes. It doesn't exactly happen in Panacea but it feels like it is set up to happen.
Started By the Sword.
Finished Panacea, a much better book than the previous one, told along the same general lines. It's as if FPW realized he'd whiffed and tried again. Here a medical examiner has a couple of bodies that are burned near beyond recognition, but the cause of death is a mystery. Then, another body comes in of a boy who miraculously was cured before a traffic accident. The medical examiner, our hero, is skeptical, but embarks on a quest to find the miracle cure behind all these mysteries. There is, of course, a cultish Catholic/CIA cabal working against her, and a druid-like group protecting the panacea. She is also paired up with a shadowy body guard with his own demons. The ending feels like this one was the start of another of those internal trilogies featuring the same characters and story lines.
I'm hoping that when Amanda gets to this one, she'll agree with me that this medical examiner overcomes our debates about previous female characters. Personally, I fell like FPW has been getting better all along the way, even if he misses the mark pretty far in the early going, save for Weezy. The one nit I'll pick in this book is that ever frequent urge in writers to pair off their male and female heroes. It doesn't exactly happen in Panacea but it feels like it is set up to happen.
Started By the Sword.
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>141 blackdogbooks: I agree he definitely got better at writing female characters. Reading the series in chronological order rather than publication order really highlights how much he improved because you frequently see the contrast.
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Finished By the Sword - you can fee FPW pulling the threads, cinching all of them closer and closer together as the end approaches. It's an end for which I am a complete virgin, and I'm glad I gathered the collection before I read anything except Legacies.
In a rare foreword for a novel, FPW warns the reader that the books will not be as stand alone at this point, that they are all apiece and will start and end in places where he chooses but might not always be completely satisfying. This one is a continuation of Bloodline, so picks up on a nihilist, chaos-driven cult called Kickers and a teenage girl who Rasalom abducted at the end of that book - both connected to fixes Jack worked on. BUT - FPW brings back the Japanese mutilation cult from Black Wind and a certain katana that Amanda wanted answers about (you're gonna get 'em, Amanda). AND - FPW brings back a Japanese corporation from Legacies, an employee of which has a grudge to settle with Jack; AND MORE - FPW brings us all the way back to The Keep and Reborn with a narrative thread I'd rather not spoil. Jack sets up a fix that is quite epic to deal, at least partially, with all these competing interests.
On to The God Gene, which is not Jack, but still quite good, even if it has a budding romance that pisses me off.
In a rare foreword for a novel, FPW warns the reader that the books will not be as stand alone at this point, that they are all apiece and will start and end in places where he chooses but might not always be completely satisfying. This one is a continuation of Bloodline, so picks up on a nihilist, chaos-driven cult called Kickers and a teenage girl who Rasalom abducted at the end of that book - both connected to fixes Jack worked on. BUT - FPW brings back the Japanese mutilation cult from Black Wind and a certain katana that Amanda wanted answers about (you're gonna get 'em, Amanda). AND - FPW brings back a Japanese corporation from Legacies, an employee of which has a grudge to settle with Jack; AND MORE - FPW brings us all the way back to The Keep and Reborn with a narrative thread I'd rather not spoil. Jack sets up a fix that is quite epic to deal, at least partially, with all these competing interests.
On to The God Gene, which is not Jack, but still quite good, even if it has a budding romance that pisses me off.
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Two items:
- I started Sibs last night!
- I've been listening to a podcast "radio show" called The Lovecraft Investigations that's based on some of HPL's stories. I finished season 3 this morning on the way to work (A Shadow over Innsmouth!) and at the end of the episode, the narrator referred to discovering the secret history of the world. Naturally, I jumped on that! 😀 Theirs is not directly Jack related, but one could see it as similar to the Joe Ledger intersection with FPW's universe.
- I started Sibs last night!
- I've been listening to a podcast "radio show" called The Lovecraft Investigations that's based on some of HPL's stories. I finished season 3 this morning on the way to work (A Shadow over Innsmouth!) and at the end of the episode, the narrator referred to discovering the secret history of the world. Naturally, I jumped on that! 😀 Theirs is not directly Jack related, but one could see it as similar to the Joe Ledger intersection with FPW's universe.
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I finished The God Gene a couple days ago. Put a short review on my thread the the book - I really like the team Laura and Rick in the book, but was really upset that FPW makes a romantic pairing of the two of them. There's a fair bit of evolutionary and scientific theory in this one, and some pretty interesting primates. Save the love story, unsentimental crab that I am, I really like the book.
Started Ground Zero.
Started Ground Zero.
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>144 drneutron: That podcast sounds interesting - A pal of mine here on LT sent me a podcast interview with FPW, I'll see if I can find it and link it here.
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Weezy is back!!!
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>147 blackdogbooks: Don't get too attached.
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>148 amanda4242: oh, I’m prepared.
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>148 amanda4242: Finished Ground Zero and it was quite a treat to have Weezy back in the story. This one looks back on 9/11 with an eye toward how the tragedy might have been a part of the SHW; was the Order and the Other involved in some way. Jack continues his undercover affiliation with the Kickers, keeping an eye on what's going on there and begins to see more clearly the connections between them and the Other. Indeed, the Other and the Order are manipulating them to create a being that will strike one of the final blows to bring about the cataclysm - which sets up a sort of epic battle between Jack and....something. This one felt a lot like Empire Strikes Back throughout, the bad guys growing stronger and more...inevitable. But Jack's not done, by a long shot. Weezy learns something truly horrifying about her brother along the way.
Also, finished The Touch, which is another of my less favorites. This one was written by FPW quite early, as compared to the other books at this point in the chronology - so it's a tough fit into the timeline here, and it's no where near as good as The Keep or Reborn or Black Wind which were its contemporaries. The book focuses back on Dat Tay Tao, that healing touch we encountered in a short story in the beginning of the SHW and had a little dealing with in the Teen Jack books. In this case, the Vietnam vet who haunts Monroe, half-mad, gives over the power to a local doctor. This book fleshes out the powers nature and dangers a bunch more, as the doc can't stop using it. It was a little slow, and a little meandering. The stuff where FPW works through the medical proofs of the healings is quite good, and there's a great Vietnamese refugee character that I wish got more time on the page. There's a female character in here, and I'm not sure about her - she's better than some from the time period it was written but I can't decide, probably because there's far too much time spent on pairing her up with the miraculous doc.....I don't know.
Started The Void Protocol.
Also, finished The Touch, which is another of my less favorites. This one was written by FPW quite early, as compared to the other books at this point in the chronology - so it's a tough fit into the timeline here, and it's no where near as good as The Keep or Reborn or Black Wind which were its contemporaries. The book focuses back on Dat Tay Tao, that healing touch we encountered in a short story in the beginning of the SHW and had a little dealing with in the Teen Jack books. In this case, the Vietnam vet who haunts Monroe, half-mad, gives over the power to a local doctor. This book fleshes out the powers nature and dangers a bunch more, as the doc can't stop using it. It was a little slow, and a little meandering. The stuff where FPW works through the medical proofs of the healings is quite good, and there's a great Vietnamese refugee character that I wish got more time on the page. There's a female character in here, and I'm not sure about her - she's better than some from the time period it was written but I can't decide, probably because there's far too much time spent on pairing her up with the miraculous doc.....I don't know.
Started The Void Protocol.
