1Robertgreaves
Now that author nationalities have been added to authors' CK pages, is there any way I can add that information as a column in the style settings for my catalogue display?
2Aquila
Unlikely, since the Common Knowledge that is currently available for catalogue display is from the book's common knowledge, not from the author's common knowledge.
3Robertgreaves
OK, thank you
4MarthaJeanne
We've had author nationalities as long as I can remember.
5Robertgreaves
>4 MarthaJeanne: Have we? I've never noticed them before, and the newsletter was talking about them as an innovation
6MarthaJeanne
>5 Robertgreaves: see https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?f=18&item=59&...
Mark Twain's nationality was first set in 2007 by a certain Tim Spalding.
Mark Twain's nationality was first set in 2007 by a certain Tim Spalding.
7SandraArdnas
>5 Robertgreaves: The new part is having US authors split by state in the graph. Similar subdivisions are being entered for other countries and the accompanying graph will presumably follow
9jjwilson61
>7 SandraArdnas: The new part isn't about nationality either, it's about birth state. See the announcement thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/384122#
10SandraArdnas
>9 jjwilson61: Birth place is just one of the things that comes into it, not the only one. It's very much a subdivision of nationality, or more precisely of Map Location. It can now be mapped not just to a country, but to lower regional levels. Someone who just happened to be born in some place, but hasn't spent any significant time there will not be mapped to their place of birth. It's just more common for people to spend at least their formative years where they were born.
11jjwilson61
>10 SandraArdnas: Yes, I understand that. But Nationality and Birth Place are two separate CK fields. And it's birth place that got the new map, not nationality.
12SandraArdnas
>11 jjwilson61: Map Location field was there before, it's not new. It was just mapped to entire countries before, so that is what people entered. It can now map to lower levels, so instead of just USA, you can now enter California, USA. THAT is the difference.
I wonder whether we're talking past each other because of different interpretations of what constitutes nationality. Either way, for modern authors, Map Location will always correspond to their nationality, but it will not always correspond to their place of birth. Case in point Kazuo Ishiguro does not map to his place of birth
I wonder whether we're talking past each other because of different interpretations of what constitutes nationality. Either way, for modern authors, Map Location will always correspond to their nationality, but it will not always correspond to their place of birth. Case in point Kazuo Ishiguro does not map to his place of birth
13Nevov
>11 jjwilson61:
Tim explains the calculation in post #90: https://www.librarything.com/topic/384122#9191110
It does include Nationality in the calculation:
>Each CK place value (Nationality, Birthplace, Place of residence, Place of death, Burial location) ...
>(paragraph explaining the calculation)
>Special Rules:
>*If the user filled in map Location, that wins outright.
Tim explains the calculation in post #90: https://www.librarything.com/topic/384122#9191110
It does include Nationality in the calculation:
>Each CK place value (Nationality, Birthplace, Place of residence, Place of death, Burial location) ...
>(paragraph explaining the calculation)
>Special Rules:
>*If the user filled in map Location, that wins outright.

