Defunct venues

I've added support for "defunct" venues. I'm leaving the term open, at least for now, but it's intended for bookshops and libraries that meant something to members—who want to favorite them—but have passed from the scene.

Examples:

I can finally favorite Avenue Victor Hugo, the great Newberry Street bookshop that closed in 2004
http://www.librarything.com/venue/35352/Avenue-Victor-Hugo

NY ComicCon 2008 doesn't need to be deleted:
http://www.librarything.com/venue/6436/New-York-Comic-Con-2008

Incidentally, I'd really like to keep the Library of Alexandria and so forth off the list. As the only LT member who's favorited Callimachus—that is to say, the only person with taste—I have more reason than most to add it, but I think it would just cheapen the whole thing.

Also, at present defunct venues still appear everywhere. If enough get entered, we can remove them from the map display. But, for now, I think quite a few Bostonians at least will appreciate seeing Avenue Victor Hugo, so they can favorite it.

Thanks, Tim. This will help prevent people from trying to visit venues no longer open to the public.

Wah! Someone already deleted World Fantasy Con from the Calgary listings. I really wanted to try this out, but I'm not going to the trouble of adding it back in.

Thank you Tim!

I'm updating a bunch of entries as we speak.

Oh, I found an Edmonton bookstore that was closed and did it. Amazing what small things give me pleasure :).

... yaay! The Stars Our Destination! Mama Bears!

So, for this to work we have to add the venue anew and mark it as defunct? Am I right in thinking that this doesn't work with venues already deleted?

I think I can undelete venues. Most "deleting" is really setting a flag, not removing every bit from the database, which leaves holes. Can I get a list of venues to un-delete for defunctitude?

Dutton's Brentwood (Los Angeles, 90049)

Can there be some kind of flag that a venue is defunct if it shows up in the left-hand column of the main local page as one of the nearest venues to your location? A little icon of some sort perhaps so you can see at a glance that it's not there anymore. Or maybe defunct status should stop it showing up there at all?

>8 timspalding:

The Black Orchid Bookshop, New York, NY
Closed 2006 I think.

Cody's Books, on Fourth Street or on Shattuck in Berkeley, CA. (They were on Fourth Street for many years, moved to Shattuck and closed within a month.) :-(

> 12: Well, actually they were on Shattuck for many years; then they opened up a Fourth Street branch, and one in San Francisco; then the Shattuck branch closed; then the others.

Tim, can you check to see if a "Barnes & Noble Booksellers - Bayside" (or Bay Terrace) exists among the dearly deleted? I just added it, but I vaguely remember it being in the system at the some point. The location has not closed, bn.com is still listing events for them.

Address is:
23-80 Bell Blvd
Bayside, NY 11360

Are we naming ones that have actually been deleted or just defunct venues?

> 13: I think you mean Telegraph, not Shattuck; that was the main store. (It's still empty; no one has rented it, so it still says Cody's on the front.) Shattuck was the last gasp in the East Bay.

In my case, I'm asking if a location (Barnes & Noble Bayside) *was* present in the system and then deleted for whatever reason.

And Cody's Books was definitely deleted.

I was responding to your request in 8, for names of venues to un-delete. So Dutton's was deleted.

If you could undelete the World Fantasy Convention (Calgary) I'd appreciate it, but if not, it isn't a big deal.

thanks

Who determines that a venue is defunct? For example, two bookstores in the Philadelphia region have announced that they are going out of business and will sell off all their stock at ever-increasing discounts. However, the date when the last book will be carried out by the last customer is not yet known.

I would say if they are still in business they are not defunct, whether they have announced "end-of-business" (lord, lord, i'm comin' soon) or not. Or even if they've announced nothing, but their imminent demise is obvious to all.

Stuff happens, so "defunct" means "no longer functioning" (present tense), not "will be no longer functioning some definite or indefinite time in the future" (future perfect) ...

Agreed.

Quite.

BTW, the announcement from Robin's Bookstore is worth a read:

After 73 years Robin's Book Store, Philadelphia's oldest independent book seller, is about to: expire, perish, pass away, be taken, resign our being, end our days, breathe our last, depart this life, be no more, pop off, give up the ghost, pay our debt to nature, shuffle off this mortal coil, go the way of all flesh, hand in our chips, come to dust, cross the Stygian ferry, go to Davy Jones' locker, go out like the snuff of a candle, come to an untimely end, catch our death, go off the hooks, kick the bucket, buy the farm, hop the twig, turn up our toes. Operating a book store was always a better hobby than a way to make a living, but now it is impossible. Blame it on the Economy. Blame it on the Chain Stores. Blame it on the Internet. Blame it on Reading Habits. In the meantime, on November 24 all new books and calendars in stock will go on sale at 20% off, and the sale discount will increase 5% each week until January 5 when it will reach 50%. The discount will remain at 50% until we close on January 31, 2009. RESURRECTION I know a world of words and books still exists, so I am creating a social center for poetry and literature, a center city salon where people can meet, listen to interesting presentations, purchase interesting books, have interesting conversations and generally maintain their cultural health. This will exist on a renovated second floor at 110A S.13th Street. Exactly what it will be is up to you. I will still supply books for your events, service your meetings and arrange authors for your organizations. You can still get any book published or out of print from us delivered to your home. Paul Hogan will continue to purchase and trade used books and libraries at 110A S. 13th Street. He can still be reached at 215-567-2615. I plan on increasing our web presence and continuing to arrange author events at other venues: African-American authors at the African American Museum of Philadelphia; Asian-American authors at the Asian Arts Initiative; authors of books on history at The Historical Society of Pennsylvania; etc. If you have a book club or an organization that is interested in author presentations, please contact me. I have established a Crime Fiction Club with a Sunday brunch at an area restaurant and am working on other "club" type book events. If you have ideas for book and author events, clubs, or other programs you would like to present with us, contact me. In the meantime enjoy our sale and save on books for the holidays, they make great gifts. Thanks for keeping us in business for 73 years, Larry Robin