frames on library?

I don't know where to ask this -- has something happened to the library view? It appears to show as a frame, with headings at the top staying still. This is extremely annoying because I cannot view much of the list at all, only one item or part of an item at a time (prefer it to be full screen and to scroll down to show more). Due to text being larger than most people have it, the frames make it very difficult to view multiple items at a time.

You're using LibraryThing at a very large text size and so the new fixed header is a problem, right?

Definitely a problem. I'd prefer you took the fixed header off, I hate when sites that do that. :( I stopped using another site because of it. I'm not going to stop using LT of course! But it really makes it hard to view the library (only a bit at a time) and hence makes it difficult to edit fields in the library view. It only takes up the bottom half of the screen, rather than my being able to scroll down and have it show in the whole screen.

Another problem with the fixed header is it obscures (for me) some of the tabs at the top. The top of the header stops just under Home and the other tabs alongside that, so it obscures part of the Home (and other) buttons too (you notice there is a gap before the "button" border and the word, well it cuts off the gap).

bookel, are you using Firefox by any chance? If you are, there is an extension (Configuration Mania) you can add to your browser that will let you resize any frame. That's how I hide the static header to maximize my library view.

isn't css more accessible than frames, for fixed headers?

>6 lquilter:

That's dogma, but in this case, maybe not. The problem isn't the frame—indeed the ability to see the frame minus its container is a positive benefit for someone who needs to look at the page very large. The problem is using CSS to mimic frames.

Bookel: Can you confirm what I said in message 2. I want to understand this.

timspalding as I confirmed in 3, yes it's a problem with the text size being larger and having a fixed header (because the header size increases the larger the text size is). My DPI is 200% of normal (192 pixels per inch) with menus etc. bold and larger text size modified via the browser settings too and settings via Control Panel advanced settings, so as well as the bar below where I type being bigger, the menus + tabs at the top are bigger, which reduces the space where the webpage displays. It might be a bit hard for you to replicate what I've done as I haven't gone into great detail. Then when I view Library, only the bottom half of the viewing space is taken up by the library, the rest is the header, tabs and logo. If I make the font any bigger (Control + mouse scroll) as an example (even though I don't need it that big), the library view takes up even less of the bottom of the screen. I would imagine having a fixed header would be even more difficult for those who use screen magnification programs? Let me know if this helps.

Cool. I'm forwarding this to Chris, the author of the fixed header—which is, I think, otherwise quite nice.

Edit: It is only showing for me 4 lines (and now 3 lines, grinding my teeth here...) of text in the library and just fits the cover image -- when I do a keyword search of my library, which is most of the time. Just showing my library only shows 7 or 8 lines, but it is still too little.

Most the screen is taken up by the immovable header and area above it, argh. Is it really needed? It was always quick enough to get up to the top using a keyboard shortcut.

Another problem resulting from the fixed header: I'm trying to select the text from a field using the mouse to copy the information, but the fixed header prevents the automatic scrolling upwards in order to select the whole thing. Also because the whole field is not showing in my window. Does it downward but that's irritating and I still can't see the whole field at once. You have no idea how frustrating all these things are.

Is there a programming ability for users to turn the fixed header off, do you think?

Chris?

I was thinking we could use the Zen-garden thing, right?

Tim, to give a visual representation of what I usually have on my screen for the Library view; I often use keyword searches so it looks like this: screen. In the example shown, from "Ken Beck" and below is the library view, above it is the header and other things. That's all that will show, and due to the fixed header I cannot make that view any bigger, at all. The fixed header is a real pain as it and the stuff above is taking up most the screen. I can't change my settings as I need the fonts that size. I'd love to be able to see the library view in the whole screen again.

Even with only title, author and date added showing I can only view one entry at a time. Very annoying when there's so many per page and I have to move the mouse scroll wheel slowly or it bypasses... (anyone listening???)

I'll take a look at giving you a fix for this. Feel free to remind me in a couple of days if you haven't heard anything. Collections is our priority right now, but I need side projects to keep me sane.

Another problem with the header for me: In covers view it does not show the whole cover, in a single row.

This problem of fixed header making the library view too narrow is not going away... What is being done to 'fix' it? Thanks.

Too vertically narrow?

Ah. Sorry. Yes, that's what you mean. Chris is looking at it.

Horizontally narrow as shown in the pic.