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1spacmann
Meyer has stated that her inspiration for naming her main male character "Edward" came from characters by the same name in two favorite novels - Edward Ferrars from Jane Austen's "Sense and Sensibility" and Edward Rochester from Charlotte Bronte's "Jane Eyre".
If anyone is familiar with these novels and these two characters in particular it would be interesting to hear viewpoints on how their personalities are reflected in Edward Cullen's personality.
Both Edward Ferrars and Edward Rochester are similar and different.
Edward Ferrars is a first born son of an aristocratic English family. He is shy and strives to marry for love rather than for money. He prefers a quiet country life.
Edward Rochester is also from an aristocratic family but moody. He falls in love with Jane because she is plain and simple but yet highly intelligent and a sharp contrast to society women.
Just a start - I realize that Meyer probably didn't think this in depth about the characters - but it is interesting.
If anyone is familiar with these novels and these two characters in particular it would be interesting to hear viewpoints on how their personalities are reflected in Edward Cullen's personality.
Both Edward Ferrars and Edward Rochester are similar and different.
Edward Ferrars is a first born son of an aristocratic English family. He is shy and strives to marry for love rather than for money. He prefers a quiet country life.
Edward Rochester is also from an aristocratic family but moody. He falls in love with Jane because she is plain and simple but yet highly intelligent and a sharp contrast to society women.
Just a start - I realize that Meyer probably didn't think this in depth about the characters - but it is interesting.
2penguin711
I love EDWARD!!
I wonder who she named jacob after... probably after some smelly old bum, who tries to steal someone elses love, and passion
I HATE jacob
I wonder who she named jacob after... probably after some smelly old bum, who tries to steal someone elses love, and passion
I HATE jacob
4bombardalicious2
Lol a smelly old bum, which turns out to be her sons name. Jacob Hater here too!
5penguin711
OMG! I feel so bad that I said that...about my favorite author's son. Oh well, I still hate jacob no matter who he was named after
6G.A.B.E
LOL! And Seth in the werewolf pack is both her son's and brother's name. And Emily is her sister's name. And Heidi in the Volturi is her sister's name. She just used her family's names alot!
7bombardalicious2
Lol, did you guys know that Dakota Fanning was offered the role of Jane in New Moon????
9bombardalicious2
No uhhh no way! NO WAY!!!!!!!! PLEASE TELL ME YOUR LYING OR KIDDING OR THATS JUST A RUMOR!!!!!!!!??????????? DEMI LOVATO WOULD BE A HORRIBLE JANE AND DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTER AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12bombardalicious2
I won't!! Don't Worry! It's ok. I'm just shocked!
13G.A.B.E
This guy called Gaspard is being considered for the role of Alec. I actually think that Demi and him would look good together. Bebe, PLEASE DON'T KILL ME!
14bombardalicious2
I won't, don't worry I am not a killer. I just have strong feelings. Does this Gaspard guy have a last name?
16Hermee
Ick. He looks so ... so ... so ... evil. Perfect then considering that and I can imagine him with blond hair. He's not my idea of beautiful though. His left dimple and the shape of his lips give him a bizarre look instead. Can picture (Gaspard Ulliel) more as Demetri.
Found this link yesterday that shows four contenders and none seem beautiful to me: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20254479,00.html. What do you all think?
Tom Felton would have been perfect years ago in his cute phase, but his face is too mature now. Other than that he would be well suited for the role given his ability to play an evil character.
Don't know what they're thinking regarding Freddie Highmore. He's not even remotely beautiful and roles I've seen him in up until now have been more laid back characters. Nothing to stretch him as an actor.
Out of the four, Lucas Grabeel has the best look to me, but I've not seen him in anything so am not familiar with his acting ability.
Found this link yesterday that shows four contenders and none seem beautiful to me: http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20254479,00.html. What do you all think?
Tom Felton would have been perfect years ago in his cute phase, but his face is too mature now. Other than that he would be well suited for the role given his ability to play an evil character.
Don't know what they're thinking regarding Freddie Highmore. He's not even remotely beautiful and roles I've seen him in up until now have been more laid back characters. Nothing to stretch him as an actor.
Out of the four, Lucas Grabeel has the best look to me, but I've not seen him in anything so am not familiar with his acting ability.
17bombardalicious2
Gaspard Ulliel does look like a Demetri.
19bombardalicious2
I know right
20jasperlover43
if demi lavato is jane...i will FREAKIN BOYCOT TWILIGHT...(well...not really)...:-P
22G.A.B.E
I agree she's not the best choice but she's got that sexy, dark look going on, she could be evil, I think.
24G.A.B.E
If you want to see someone retarded, get a mirror, CC.
(anyone reading this know that Athina and I are best buddies in real life :))
(anyone reading this know that Athina and I are best buddies in real life :))
26G.A.B.E
Pretty much .. but we never pass the carefully set line of sisterhood - lol :) No, we know when stuff gets past a joke and we apologize but mostly we stay safely behind the line.
27All.Time.Lunatic.xX
unless you talk bout whales.. then you pole-vault over into hong-kong
just saying :)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
no one has posted something on here since feb. 4 so yeah just thought i would do my bit for the environment (wth)
just saying :)
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no one has posted something on here since feb. 4 so yeah just thought i would do my bit for the environment (wth)
29bombardalicious2
how do u post pics?
30angelinedwardseyes
hey ppls
31All.Time.Lunatic.xX
hey Athina!! *waves vigorously(sp?)* :D
37bombardalicious2
Wow, those eyes on Jackson
38Muse_Freak1312
Hiiiiiiiiiii everybody!!!! *waves hand so fast its a blur*
41G.A.B.E
Jackson looks awesome in that pic!
Hello, hello, hello, Casey, cupcake :D How you doin'? *imagine in Italian accent* :P
Hello, hello, hello, Casey, cupcake :D How you doin'? *imagine in Italian accent* :P
42All.Time.Lunatic.xX
haha lol she's not cupcake, she's bumblebee! :)
43Muse_Freak1312
bzz... thats right.
44All.Time.Lunatic.xX
hehe bzzzzz..
45guamgirl99
32> Nice pics! :D
35> Jackson looks so good!
35> Jackson looks so good!
46ibetonalice2
I KNOW RIGHT :)
47guamgirl99
TOTALLY :
48angelinedwardseyes
omg Jackson/Jasper looks so cute
49kara1560
(off topic)
I posted on a group that was asking ramdom questions about books, poems, short stories, etc. So I answered these ones:
What was your LEAST favourite book you have read in the past year: (forgot my answer)
What was the best book you have read in the past year? (my answer: Eclispe)
What is your favourite charater in a book/play? (my answer: jasper hale/ Edward Cullen)
What is your LEAST favourite character in a book/play? (my answer: Harry potter)
^I'm sorry Hermee
And the next person who posted, post this to those same questions:
Their answer to the first: Whole Twilight Saga
Answer to the 2nd: harry potter
Answer to the 3rd:Harry potter
Answer to the 4th: Edward cullen
Ironic HUH?
I posted on a group that was asking ramdom questions about books, poems, short stories, etc. So I answered these ones:
What was your LEAST favourite book you have read in the past year: (forgot my answer)
What was the best book you have read in the past year? (my answer: Eclispe)
What is your favourite charater in a book/play? (my answer: jasper hale/ Edward Cullen)
What is your LEAST favourite character in a book/play? (my answer: Harry potter)
^I'm sorry Hermee
And the next person who posted, post this to those same questions:
Their answer to the first: Whole Twilight Saga
Answer to the 2nd: harry potter
Answer to the 3rd:Harry potter
Answer to the 4th: Edward cullen
Ironic HUH?
50guamgirl99
Ironic indeed..
52guamgirl99
^ why do you keep commenting me? ^
54guamgirl99
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55All.Time.Lunatic.xX
WOW.
I haven't been on here in a while.
I have nooo idea what is going on!
:)
I haven't been on here in a while.
I have nooo idea what is going on!
:)
57guamgirl99
Lol, it's funny how we always get off topic & the conversations we get in to.
58leperdbunny
"Edward Rochester is also from an aristocratic family but moody. He falls in love with Jane because she is plain and simple but yet highly intelligent and a sharp contrast to society women."
Next time I get a comment about Edward being unhealthy I'll ask if the person realizes who his character is originally based on. . .Maybe that will shut them up.
Next time I get a comment about Edward being unhealthy I'll ask if the person realizes who his character is originally based on. . .Maybe that will shut them up.
59guamgirl99
leperdbunny: True.
60angelinedwardseyes
Agreed
I think. I haven't read the books Edward is based on.
I think. I haven't read the books Edward is based on.
61guamgirl99
^ Ya should :)
62All.Time.Lunatic.xX
I didn't even know he was really based on anything.
Hmm, I guess you learn something new everyday!
:)
Hmm, I guess you learn something new everyday!
:)
63guamgirl99
^Yup, even if you don't know it :o
OMG why does Taylor Lautner have to be so hot?!?!
OMG why does Taylor Lautner have to be so hot?!?!
64Muse_Freak1312
ah, what a curse to have. :D
65guamgirl99
64: What do you mean? A curse that I think a celebrity is hot? :)
66ibetonalice2
The curse of being hot is what she meant.
67Muse_Freak1312
thank you alice. that is exactly what i meant. you are so helpful. :D
69ibetonalice2
You are very welcome Casey :)
70All.Time.Lunatic.xX
Didn't you mean like sarcasm.. sort of.
Like it's not a curse at all..??
I dunno.
But I get what you mean.. unlike some people....
:)
Like it's not a curse at all..??
I dunno.
But I get what you mean.. unlike some people....
:)
71Muse_Freak1312
yes i meant it as sarcasm. Im very sarcastic. :D
73All.Time.Lunatic.xX
LOL.
71:"sarcasm is the lowest form of witt"
As you would say missy!
71:"sarcasm is the lowest form of witt"
As you would say missy!
74G.A.B.E
Okay, you seem to be full of sayings. :) Like in English today, reading them off posters to me. :)
75All.Time.Lunatic.xX
LOL.
Yeah.
But like a month ago I said that exact same saying "Im very sarcastic." And Casey replied with
"sarcasm is the lowest form of witt"
So I was just turning her words back around on her.
:)
Yeah.
But like a month ago I said that exact same saying "Im very sarcastic." And Casey replied with
"sarcasm is the lowest form of witt"
So I was just turning her words back around on her.
:)
76G.A.B.E
Oh, haha! Oh, actually, I think I remember her saying that and I was like, "Alrighty then.." :)
77All.Time.Lunatic.xX
LOL.
Yes.
I have a good memoery when it comes to some things.
And that, my friend, was one of those things.
:)
Yes.
I have a good memoery when it comes to some things.
And that, my friend, was one of those things.
:)
78guamgirl99
I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not. It sounded more sarcastic than serious.
79txladyjane
Wow Pretty sad when only like 2 people responded to this post actual QUESTION.
First also remember Edward Ferrars was not well liked it took awhile for us to like him, but once he showed his natural personality then his actions were better understood and made him even more likable. Much like Edward in the Book he didn't know how to act around Bella and once she understood why he did what he did it made her love him. What do you think?
Edward Rochester was passionate, but concealed things, like Edward Cullen had too. Meaning that he had a wife, and EC was a vampire. I could even call ER cold, and that is the way EC was at first.
So spacmann at least you got a little dialogue back on your original question.
First also remember Edward Ferrars was not well liked it took awhile for us to like him, but once he showed his natural personality then his actions were better understood and made him even more likable. Much like Edward in the Book he didn't know how to act around Bella and once she understood why he did what he did it made her love him. What do you think?
Edward Rochester was passionate, but concealed things, like Edward Cullen had too. Meaning that he had a wife, and EC was a vampire. I could even call ER cold, and that is the way EC was at first.
So spacmann at least you got a little dialogue back on your original question.
80leperdbunny
Thanks for bringing this up, I have a much deeper appreciation of these literary nuances/references/whatever we want to call them.
I was thinking about this thread and I wonder if any of the other names have significance. Cull is to pick out or select something. . . Bella Swan is just cutesy, unless I am missing another reference.
I was thinking about this thread and I wonder if any of the other names have significance. Cull is to pick out or select something. . . Bella Swan is just cutesy, unless I am missing another reference.
81ibetonalice2
Doesn't Bella mean beautiful in like italian or something?
And when I think of a swan I also think of beautiful.
I don't know..just a thought.
And when I think of a swan I also think of beautiful.
I don't know..just a thought.
82Muse_Freak1312
yeah, thats one of the things that the haters complain about, cause Bella Swan means Beautiful Swan.
I think its a bit of an intentional contradiction, cause Bella certainly doesnt think she is beautiful, and swans are meant to represent gracefulness, something Bella is not.
I think its a bit of an intentional contradiction, cause Bella certainly doesnt think she is beautiful, and swans are meant to represent gracefulness, something Bella is not.
83guamgirl99
81: Yeah, Bella means beautiful in Italian. 99% sure.
84Muse_Freak1312
Yeah, I do Italian lessons, so bella does mean beautiful.
85G.A.B.E
82: Yup! That's a good point, Casey. LOVE YOU! x
And yeah, bella is the male word for beautiful, isn't the female one different?
And yeah, bella is the male word for beautiful, isn't the female one different?
86All.Time.Lunatic.xX
OME!
It annoys me when people just randomly post and answer the post question.
I realise that's the point but we just talk randomly.
GRRRRR.
Anyhooo...
It annoys me when people just randomly post and answer the post question.
I realise that's the point but we just talk randomly.
GRRRRR.
Anyhooo...
87Muse_Freak1312
Love you too Narlene. ♥
haha aww, dont worry leah. we can always count on you for a bit of randomosity. :D
haha aww, dont worry leah. we can always count on you for a bit of randomosity. :D
88leperdbunny
>81 ibetonalice2:&82, yuppers you are correct. I do like the irony of the name. In the last book, it doesn't appear to be ironic anymore, because as a vampire Bella is truly beautiful and graceful for the first time in her (undead) life. Aw, I love it!!!
I feel Meyer did a beautiful job with many aspects of the book series that people don't take the time to appreciate/learn.
I feel Meyer did a beautiful job with many aspects of the book series that people don't take the time to appreciate/learn.
89Muse_Freak1312
yeah thats pretty cool that she found the one place she belongs.
90All.Time.Lunatic.xX
SERIUOSLY!!
If you want to answer the post question, then start a new post.
We are over the inpiration for Edward.
We all know already!!!!
Okay.
I'm good now.
If you want to answer the post question, then start a new post.
We are over the inpiration for Edward.
We all know already!!!!
Okay.
I'm good now.
91Muse_Freak1312
*phew* :D
92leperdbunny
>90 All.Time.Lunatic.xX: are you referring to what I said?
93angelinedwardseyes
Yes I believe she is.
94leperdbunny
>90 All.Time.Lunatic.xX: & 93
Wow, really? I thought my discussion was in the spirit of the original posters question/discussion (i.e related).
I agree, we should all post new threads when we are talking about things unrelated to the original post, but seeing as how you all obviously know eachother, you do talk within posts a lot about things not related to the original post. (Just look at this one for an example).
So, I'm sorry if I got the wrong impression about that.
Also, I enjoy discussions like this about etymology, metaphors, and references etc etc etc, so I can get carried away very quickly! :D I don't normally post in this group at all, and there doesn't seem to be any guidelines regarding posting etiquette within this group.
Wow, really? I thought my discussion was in the spirit of the original posters question/discussion (i.e related).
I agree, we should all post new threads when we are talking about things unrelated to the original post, but seeing as how you all obviously know eachother, you do talk within posts a lot about things not related to the original post. (Just look at this one for an example).
So, I'm sorry if I got the wrong impression about that.
Also, I enjoy discussions like this about etymology, metaphors, and references etc etc etc, so I can get carried away very quickly! :D I don't normally post in this group at all, and there doesn't seem to be any guidelines regarding posting etiquette within this group.
95CCCarnes
Jacob is sweet!
A pitiful kind of wanna-be sweet.
No way near hot sexy Edward... but he's still sweet!
A pitiful kind of wanna-be sweet.
No way near hot sexy Edward... but he's still sweet!
97angelinedwardseyes
94: We have all been on this for a while so after the question is answered we just talk about other stuff.
99kara1560
EWWWW! I'm whatching this cooking show, and they just practically beheaded an aligator!!! EWWWWWW!
poor wittle aligator.... :(
poor wittle aligator.... :(
100Muse_Freak1312
bleurgh! gruesome.
101guamgirl99
99: Beheading an alligator? EWW, really disturbing!!! Is the alligator alive or dead when they are doing that? I would suspect it to end terribly if the alligator was alive...






