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libraries Banning books

1nele95
Apr 16, 2009, 10:16 am

Okay i was reading this book called Boy meets boy. By the tittle you can probaly tell what it is about. I recomended it to my friend and she went to her librarn to recomnd it and the libraran told her it was baned
What do you think is this fair or unfair?

2Tevety
Apr 23, 2009, 2:20 pm

I think it is really up to the Library. If your friend really wants to read the book, she could buy it from a store. So, my answer is that I think it is fair.

3nele95
Apr 24, 2009, 9:37 am

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4VetaTorres
Apr 26, 2009, 8:22 pm

i disagree, i don't think books should be banned based on what only a certain group of people think about the book.

5nele95
May 1, 2009, 10:08 am

My opion is that when books are banned the libaries are babing us from these types of topics. So my answer is unfair

6Tevety
May 1, 2009, 2:22 pm

Well, it's the library's property, and they are the ones spending the money to run it. So I guess it's only fair that they choose the books that get to be a part of it.

7lilithcat
May 1, 2009, 2:47 pm

> 6

That's not necessarily true. If it is a public library, as opposed to a private one, it is the taxpayers' money.

However, it is certainly true that, on a limited budget, choices must be made. But they should be made on the basis of what serves the needs of the community, rather than on a political or religious agenda.

8smiley24
May 2, 2009, 9:18 pm

Was it a school library?

9ragulto101
Jul 20, 2009, 2:34 pm

I think it's unfair too.

10nele95
Jul 24, 2009, 2:50 pm

I mean come on it's the real world stop protaceting us

11ragulto101
Jul 24, 2009, 5:49 pm

exactly.
and what ever book it is we'll read it eventually.

12nele95
Jul 25, 2009, 7:26 am

It's a good book
everyone should read it.

13Tevety
Aug 6, 2009, 1:58 pm

Okay this is my opinion, so no offense or hard feelings.

>11 ragulto101: You cannot possible think that is true. You will not read every book in the world, this is what I am implying from your statement.

>10 nele95: You need protection-again my opinion- the world is a vile place and it is seething with sin and wrongness. And if you listen to its lies, you will eventually follow its ways also. What was "weird" will become "normal" to you. So beware.

Small note: SPELLING

14VetaTorres
Edited: Aug 11, 2009, 3:33 pm

i get what u mean Tevety but to ban a book, especially if its a public library, is a little bit over the top. i mean if they choose not to purchase it that's one thing, but to refuse to get it because of its homosexual content is wrong to me. i mean it could be a very good book even if it's against ur morals or religion. and to ban it would be putting ur beliefs on others who should be able to think and believe for themselves. that's my opinion anyways

15VetaTorres
Aug 11, 2009, 3:36 am

"The books that the world calls immoral are books that show the world its own shame." ~Oscar Wilde

16nele95
Aug 11, 2009, 10:14 am

yueah i mean you can choose not to read it

17jettblack28
Oct 15, 2009, 5:29 pm

i think its unfair. i would understand if it was elementary, but at the middle and high scool age i think we can handle that.

18iwams6
Oct 15, 2009, 5:39 pm

i work at a library and when one of our books is being banned it is b/c the board (which is made up of regular citizens and taxpayers) decided that they dont want to pay for that and they dont think it's appropiate material for others to be reading. So if you think it's unfair for certain books to be banned, find out who exactly makes the decision and then if you can do something about it, then why not do it. I'm just saying.

19jettblack28
Oct 15, 2009, 6:06 pm

u say good words. but i havent found ny banned books yet so cant do nything

20nele95
Oct 19, 2009, 11:07 am

we already went to the higher peroson and protesteed agaisnt it but it didn't work :(

21jettblack28
Oct 19, 2009, 8:21 pm

mm.... id protest to...

22iwams6
Oct 20, 2009, 12:52 pm

you can check the book out through another library. have you heard of interlibrary loan?? sign up for that and you can check out books that your library doesnt have.

23nele95
Oct 20, 2009, 2:57 pm

no never heard of that

24iwams6
Oct 20, 2009, 5:50 pm

Just ask your library and they'll give you further information.

25nele95
Oct 21, 2009, 9:23 am

kay i will thanks

26smiley24
Oct 23, 2009, 9:37 am

Couldn't you just go to another library?

27Tevety
Oct 23, 2009, 3:48 pm

You could totally go to Library-R-us!

(That was just to be funny, I don't mean to be offensive)

28MmeRose
Oct 27, 2009, 12:07 pm

You can go here:
http://www.ala.org/ala/issuesadvocacy/banned/bannedbooksweek/index.cfm
to read about the American Library Association's Banned Books Week. Also this should be reported to them! They estimate that less than 25% of bans/challenges are reported, so it's not a small problem.

29nele95
Oct 27, 2009, 7:42 pm

Wow

30rolandperkins
Oct 27, 2009, 8:23 pm

To just say "it is banned" implies that there is some authority other than the library, and superior to the library, which has banned it. And I canʻt conceive of such an authority.

"Itʻs banned" is misleading --probably false, though I donʻt know the details of this case. Tevetyʻs argument "itʻs the libraryʻs property and they are the ones spending the money...." is irrelevant, because since theyʻre NOT acquiring it, it of course is NOT their property, and they have NOT spent any money on it. What is probably meant by that argument is that the DECISION -- buy it or donʻt buy it -- is their RESPONSIBILITY.
As a librarian I would never give a requester the argument, "you can always BUY it". We have enough trouble about how to spend our own (usually inadequate) funds without telling others how to spend theirs.

To most libraries, the most important factor is DEMAND. And most libraries will not regard one personʻs recommendation as adequate demand. But they should be giving the requester the answer that they donʻt CHOOSE to acquire it, not that it is "banned".

To answer the question "fair or unfair" my answer is "UNfair", assuming that this is a typical acquisition case with no unusual qualifying factors about it.

31nele95
Oct 28, 2009, 3:00 pm

WOW nice suporting your answer!

32VetaTorres
Oct 28, 2009, 4:50 pm

nice Mr. Perkins :)

33rolandperkins
Oct 28, 2009, 4:54 pm

Thanks,
nele and VetaTorres

34MmeRose
Oct 28, 2009, 8:57 pm

To clarify, the ALA considers a book "banned" when it has actually been removed from a library, school curriculum or bookstore because some person or group objects to it. A book is "challenged" when a person or group makes the complaint but the book is not removed (or has not yet been removed).
So in that first post, the questions are:
Did the library have the book and remove it because of complaints? It's banned.
Did the library decide not to buy it because they knew it was controversial and they didn't want the hassle? Sad.
Did the library decide not to buy the book because some books just become casualties of budget limits? That's the real world, no one can buy every book.

35jettblack28
Oct 29, 2009, 12:44 pm

well put.

36smiley24
Nov 2, 2009, 8:57 pm

Was is a public or school library?? Really there are so many places to go and find that book. Maybe the library did spend money on it. Isn't it their choice to include a book in the library. I ask again, what type of library was it?

37Tevety
Nov 3, 2009, 3:51 pm

you tell 'em Tubbles,

38smiley24
Nov 3, 2009, 4:11 pm

Wait! What? Where's Tubbles!

39Tevety
Nov 3, 2009, 4:12 pm

Don't stick him up your booty-hoo. and you stick it down you're pants and it won't come out ... little *****r

sry. that was inappropriate.

but funny

40smiley24
Nov 3, 2009, 4:13 pm

Bahaha!!

41nele95
Nov 5, 2009, 3:37 pm

It was in a school.

42smiley24
Nov 10, 2009, 3:43 pm

It is different if it was a school library then if it was a public library. It might have been the school's choice to not include that book in the library and if there is a public library then you could check it out from there.

43VetaTorres
Edited: Nov 10, 2009, 4:57 pm

there was a jr high school in Southern California that wanted to ban a book by Maya Angelou because it contained a scene where an 8 yr old girl was raped, obviously it is not something young people need to read about. The district did not ban the book but instead made it that for a student to check out the book they had to have parent consent. personally i think this ruling it fair since parents should know what their kids are reading, it should be their decsion to allow their student to read the book or not.

44nele95
Nov 11, 2009, 3:06 pm

yeah that is still a good compermise. but still don't we have the right to read whatever we want. For example right now in my college prepatory class we are The Freedom Writers. We had to get parent permisson to read it becasuse of mature content. I can understand that because we are kind of force (don't think that's the right word but beare with me)to read it. But if we want to read it why can't we be able to go to a library to go and cheak it out.

45jettblack28
Edited: Nov 11, 2009, 3:07 pm

43. yea, thats a good idea.

46smiley24
Nov 12, 2009, 9:39 am

I am agreeing with VetaTorres. The library or school should have the right to do so.