Richard III

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Richard III

1BartGr.
Dec 19, 2009, 3:34 am

The new Columbia blockgame Richard III has got me interested in the Wars of the Roses. I'm reading The Wars of the Roses: Politics and the Constitution in England, c.1437-1509 by Christine Carpenter, but it's a bit of a dissapointment. Has any of you suggestions for further reading?

3AlexBr
Dec 19, 2009, 5:07 pm

I've just started Warwick the Kingmaker by Paul Murray Kendall, also because I bought the boardgame Richard III. And I want to keep up with my usual gaming partner. Can't tell you much about it yet, but a well informed Wars of the Roses mother recommended this book te me.

4BartGr.
Dec 20, 2009, 9:12 am

That's an interesting collection of books on the wars of the Roses, Donogh. I think Lancaster and York: Wars of the Roses is the kind of general overview I'm looking for. Thanks.

Have you played the game yourself?

5Donogh
Dec 23, 2009, 4:46 am

Haven't played it. Is it a remapping of Hammer of the Scots or are there significant changes?

6BartGr.
Dec 23, 2009, 1:19 pm

The basic mechanisms are the same, but the changes in comparison to HotS are significant enough to make it more than just a remapping. The game is more brutal, I think, than its predecessor, less strategic maybe (supply is only a minor worry for example) , and playing time is shorter (+/- 2 hours when played at a reasonable speed).

7Ammianus
Dec 23, 2009, 2:59 pm

Goodness, brings back memories of hours of playing KINGMAKER.

8AlexBr
Dec 24, 2009, 4:28 am

Ah Kingmaker was great fun. Richard III is also very good, but it doesn't beat Kingmaker with 4 or 5 people.

9Macbeth
Sep 3, 2025, 12:50 am

No Doubt you are all aware that Kingmaker was re-released last year - with changes, but the game also allows you to play the classic version

Cheers