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Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing, and Dying (2011)

by Sönke Neitzel, Harald Welzer (Author)

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Though initially recorded by British intelligence with the intention of gaining information that might be useful for the Allied war effort, the matters discussed in these conversations ultimately proved to be limited in that regard. But they would supply a unique and profoundly important window into the mentality of the soldiers in the Wehrmacht, the Luftwaffe, the German navy, and the military in general, almost all of whom had insisted on their own honorable behavior during the war. It is a myth these transcripts unequivocally debunk.… (more)
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Very thought-provoking and gruesome read. Almost all of us surrender ourselves to a worldview generated by a job. What is the result?
  wbell539 | Dec 22, 2021 |
Transcribed secret recordings were made of the conversations between German PoWs in British and US control during the war. Neitzel found them in 2001 and used them for the basis of his doctoral thesis This book is the outgrowth of his educational efforts.

The first 2-3 chapters are discussions of psychological theory and was rather turgid. The next few chapters seem to be picking up my interest better.

I gave up on this one about 40% into it. It got worse as it went along and was so boring I had to say "uncle" and move on to something else. ( )
  Slipdigit | Nov 24, 2021 |
Great insight into the minds of POWs from landsers all the way up to Generals. Shows how ingrained NS culture was in the armed forces and opens a window into what these men thought about the Nazis, the conduct of the war and its ultimate conclusion. ( )
  Jonathan.McNeice | Feb 18, 2019 |
I had to abandon this book after reading about 20% of it,

I read some of the German prisoners' remarks about killing sorties and decided I didn't want to read more of their philosphical views about those they killed. Their opinions seem to be a result of a culture of bigotry and bias, much of it through military and cultural brain washing. Sometimes I just cannot read about the filth and evil in this world, past or present. I wanted to try to better understand the mindsets of those murderous Nazis recorded in prison, but cannot proceed as what I read angered me too much.

Congratulations to the writers & editors of this book which I hope will provide a permanent record of how extreme power can corrupt.
  Patbilly | Apr 29, 2014 |
I had to abandon this book after reading about 20% of it,

I read some of the German prisoners' remarks about killing sorties and decided I didn't want to read more of their philosphical views about those they killed. Their opinions seem to be a result of a culture of bigotry and bias, much of it through military and cultural brain washing. Sometimes I just cannot read about the filth and evil in this world, past or present. I wanted to try to better understand the mindsets of those murderous Nazis recorded in prison, but cannot proceed as what I read angered me too much.

Congratulations to the writers & editors of this book which I hope will provide a permanent record of how extreme power can corrupt.
  Patbilly | Apr 29, 2014 |
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Neitzel, SönkeAuthorprimary authorall editionsconfirmed
Welzer, HaraldAuthormain authorall editionsconfirmed
Mannoni, OlivierTraductionsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Sullam, SaraTranslatorsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
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Though initially recorded by British intelligence with the intention of gaining information that might be useful for the Allied war effort, the matters discussed in these conversations ultimately proved to be limited in that regard. But they would supply a unique and profoundly important window into the mentality of the soldiers in the Wehrmacht, the Luftwaffe, the German navy, and the military in general, almost all of whom had insisted on their own honorable behavior during the war. It is a myth these transcripts unequivocally debunk.

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