Ernest Thompson Seton (1860–1946)
Author of Wild Animals I Have Known
About the Author
Ernest Thompson Seton was an artist and author. He was born in South Shields, England on August 14, 1860. Seton studied art at the Royal Academy of Painting and Sculpture in London. His 1898 collection of stories, Wild Animals I Have Known, led to the publication of more than forty other books. show more Seton lectured widely and established a youth group called the Woodcraft Indians that combined his love of the outdoors and his artistic talent. The activities of the Woodcraft Indians directly led to the formation of the Boy Scouts of America, which Seton co-founded in 1910. He was the author of the first Scout Manual. The Canadian Broadcasting Company has produced two film tributes of Seton, Keeper of the Wind in 1974 and Seton's Manitoba in 1984. Seton died on October 23, 1946. (Bowker Author Biography) show less
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Works by Ernest Thompson Seton
Woodcraft and Indian Lore: A Classic Guide from a Founding Father of the Boy Scouts of America (1912) 122 copies, 1 review
The Arctic Prairies: A Canoe-Journey of 2,000 Miles in Search of the Caribou (1911) 46 copies, 1 review
Life Histories of Northern Animals an Account of the Mammals of Manitoba (Natural sciences in America) (1974) 10 copies
Raggylug The Cottontail Rabbit And Other Animal Stories. With Pictures By The Author (2011) 5 copies
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Rolf zálesák 4 copies
動物記. 3 4 copies
動物記. 5 3 copies
Sign Talk: A Universal Signal Code, Without Apparatus, For Use In The Army, The Navy, Camping, Hunting, And Daily Life (2008) 3 copies
動物記. 4 3 copies
動物記. 7 3 copies
動物記. 6 3 copies
動物記. 8 3 copies
動物記. 9 3 copies
動物記. 2 3 copies
THE NATURE LIBRARY ANIMAL 2 copies
The Animal Story Book, Young Folks' Library, Volume VI (Volume SIX), 1902 Edition (Volume VI) 2 copies
Чинк и другие рассказы 1 copy
King of the Grizzlies 1 copy
Kolm kangelast : [jutud] 1 copy
Loomkangelased. [jutud] / II 1 copy
Loomkangelased. [jutud] / I 1 copy
Whab: The Story of a Grizzly 1 copy
Gia Đình Thỏ Đuôi Bông 1 copy
Gà Gô Ở Thung Lũng Don 1 copy
Con Cáo Ở Springfield 1 copy
Chúa Tể Vùng Currumpaw 1 copy
Ga Go O Thung Lung Don 1 copy
Con Cao O Springfield 1 copy
Gia Dinh Tho Duoi Bong 1 copy
Chua Te Vung Currumpaw 1 copy
Арно (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Бинго (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Лобо (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Вулли (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Домино (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Приключения Рольфа 1 copy
Чинк (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Kreg - Kuteneiskii baran. 1 copy
Vargkungen 1 copy
Črni kljusač in druge zgodbe 1 copy
Rolf gozdovnik 1 copy
The Animal Story Book: Young Folks' Library Volume VI, Third Edition (fables, inc. Aesop) [missing dustjacket] (1902) 1 copy
Снап (Рассказы о животных) 1 copy
Truyen Loai Vat 1 copy
The legend of the white reindeer ;: Arnaux ; The boy and the lynx (The Thompson Seton readers) (1915) 1 copy
The buffalo wind. 1 copy
Kalliovuorten kuningas 1 copy
Book of Woodcraft 1 copy
The Scout Law 1 copy
Povídky od táborového ohně 1 copy
Povídky od táborového ohně 1 copy
Two Little Savages Vol III 1 copy
Wild Animal Ways Vol II 1 copy
Katug, dítě sněhu 1 copy
Tier Der Wildnis 1 copy
Autobiography of John Macoun, M.A.: Canadian Explorer and Naturalist, Assistant Director and Natura (2022) 1 copy
Divoké děti lesů 1 copy
ANIMALS, The Nature Library 1 copy
Due piccoli selvaggi 1 copy
Král vlků 1 copy
Medvezhonok Dzhonni 1 copy
Associated Works
The Big Book of Favorite Horse Stories: Twenty-Five Outstanding Stories by Distinguished Authors (1965) — Contributor — 168 copies, 1 review
Wild animals of North America, intimate studies of big and little creatures of the mammal kingdom (1918) — Illustrator — 34 copies
Stories for girls — Contributor — 1 copy
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- Other names
- Thompson, Ernest Evan (born as)
- Birthdate
- 1860-08-14
- Date of death
- 1946-10-23
- Gender
- male
- Education
- Royal Academy of Arts, London, England, UK
- Occupations
- author
wildlife artist
naturalist - Organizations
- American Academy of Arts and Letters (Literature, 1905)
Woodcraft Indians (founder, 1902)
Boy Scouts of America (co-founder and first Chief Scout) - Awards and honors
- Silver Buffalo Award (1926)
Daniel Giraud Elliot Medal (1928) - Relationships
- Seton, Anya (daughter)
Seton-Thompson, Grace Gallatin (wife) - Short biography
- Naturalist to the government of Manitoba.
- Nationality
- UK (birth)
USA (naturalized, 1931) - Birthplace
- South Shields, County Durham, England, UK
- Places of residence
- South Shields, County Durham, England, UK
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
London, Middlesex, England, UK
New York, New York, USA
Cos Cob, Connecticut, USA
Seton Village, New Mexico, USA - Place of death
- Seton Village, New Mexico, USA
- Burial location
- cremated (ashes scattered over Seton Village, New Mexico, USA)
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A collection of animal stories that sparked a nationwide literary controversy, which had to be resolved by the President of the United States? It is wonderfully ironic to look back at the insults traded, and the accusations of "anthropomorphism", and "sentimentalism" - I conclude (as a 21st century zoologist), that the criticisms were totally bogus, and this work is actually a fantastic perspective on nature and wildlife, as well as an enchanting read and a wonderful advocate of show more environmentalism.
All this fuss (known as the "nature fakers controversy") seems to have been a reaction against a sympathetic portrayal of animals and nature at the beginning of the 20th century. Not that the stories in this book are particularly fluffy and cuddly. Virtually every short story ends with the violent death of the protagonist; often at the hands of humans. It could be, in fact, a rather distressing collection of stories, and I wouldn't necessarily recommend reading them to your children at bedtime. But the point is that the animals are portrayed as individuals, with character, personality, and emotional drives; and that seemed to annoy much of "society" at the time, including President Teddy Roosevelt.
But enough of the politics. The book itself is highly evocative, extremely convincing, and clearly stems from the author's genuine and extensive experience studying animals in the wild. The first story tells of a wolf, hunted down by the author himself - yet there is no doubt with whom the reader identifies; and it isn't with the author. He then tells of the antics of a crow leading his flock, a cottontail rabbit, dogs, foxes, a mustang, and finally, a humble partridge. But even in those stories that I began to read without much empathy for the protagonists, by the end of each one you feel you've got to know them intimately, and that their lives are immensely rich and complex. How much understanding of nature we must inevitably be missing no matter how carefully we look! In the end, this is an important and powerful book. In the best naturalist tradition, very much real and enlightening: maybe not science, but not sentimentalism either. show less
All this fuss (known as the "nature fakers controversy") seems to have been a reaction against a sympathetic portrayal of animals and nature at the beginning of the 20th century. Not that the stories in this book are particularly fluffy and cuddly. Virtually every short story ends with the violent death of the protagonist; often at the hands of humans. It could be, in fact, a rather distressing collection of stories, and I wouldn't necessarily recommend reading them to your children at bedtime. But the point is that the animals are portrayed as individuals, with character, personality, and emotional drives; and that seemed to annoy much of "society" at the time, including President Teddy Roosevelt.
But enough of the politics. The book itself is highly evocative, extremely convincing, and clearly stems from the author's genuine and extensive experience studying animals in the wild. The first story tells of a wolf, hunted down by the author himself - yet there is no doubt with whom the reader identifies; and it isn't with the author. He then tells of the antics of a crow leading his flock, a cottontail rabbit, dogs, foxes, a mustang, and finally, a humble partridge. But even in those stories that I began to read without much empathy for the protagonists, by the end of each one you feel you've got to know them intimately, and that their lives are immensely rich and complex. How much understanding of nature we must inevitably be missing no matter how carefully we look! In the end, this is an important and powerful book. In the best naturalist tradition, very much real and enlightening: maybe not science, but not sentimentalism either. show less
An amazing mish-mash of information about "woodland" creatures and plants, fairy stories (of the "brownies in the wood" type), "origin" stories of various creatures and plants, activities to do and learn from, rampant sexism, and cultural appropriation. Some of the info and activities were actually interesting, and possibly even useful (edible plants, dangerous plants and creatures), but the style was so cutesy it was hard to extract the useful stuff. The sexism didn't relate to people, but show more to the woodland creatures - he describes raising a monarch butterfly from a caterpillar, and gives, without any explanation, a description of the butterfly which fits the male and not the female. At that point I realized that none of his descriptions (except one - he does talk about female sparrows as well as male) include sexual dimorphism - he describes one form of each creature, without even suggesting that there might be variations. The cultural appropriation is another mish-mash - he "admires" "Indians" and "the Red Man", and shows it by telling origin stories which...may have had roots in one or another tribe's beliefs, but feel more like they're entirely made up. He also lays out activities like a Council Fire, with again parts drawn from many different peoples - sand painting, a song in...maybe an actual Native American language, maybe just gibberish he made up, I can't tell. It's a pity, because he seems to actually be a good observer of the life around him, but this book is essentially unreadable now (and probably wasn't too hot when it was new). show less
Fair warning: there are a lot of SPOILERS in this post. I tell what happens because I think many readers would like to know ahead of time that A LOT OF ANIMALS DIE in these tales. Akin to Jack London's writings, there's plenty of fighting and mistreatment. Seton claims that his animal stories are based on fact, however I assume they are embellished with detail. Not quite sure how all the animal protagonists qualify as 'heroes' yet they are compelling stories.
"The Slum Cat"- life of an alley show more cat, with remarkably pretty markings. At first the story is just about the cat's life, how it grows up, daily search for food, avoiding bigger meaner cats, etc. Then the cat starts hanging around what sounds like a disreputable shop that sells pet birds. The seller comes up with an idea to fob off the alley cat as a rare pedigreed import at a local fancy cat show. Everyone is taken in, and the cat gets sold to a wealthy family, who do some remarkable mental gymnastics to excuse every ill-mannered and anti-social behavior the cat exhibits in their nice home. The cat is well-fed and pampered but hates it all and longs to return to its alley. Eventually it escapes and makes its way back home. Story doesn't quite end there, though!
"Arnaux" is about a homing pigeon. The bird lives in a loft that appears to have multiple owners- and the story describes how the pigeons are kept and flown. Different from nowadays... The birds must have excellent navigational skills, endurance and smarts, to make it home again. There's one bit where a pigeon takes a message to get help for a ship stranded at sea, but most of it is about regular homing pigeon races. One bird is less attractive and smaller than the rest, but the fastest racer in the loft. In part of the story this bird gets captured and shut into a different loft on his way home- by a fancier who doesn't intend to actually steal him, but to breed him and then let him go again. He ends up staying in the strange loft for years before escaping and heading straight on home again. But then the pigeon meets a sudden and cruel end. I'm sure Seton just means to show how life is not always kind and fair, but still, you might not want to read this story to a sensitive child.
"Badlands Billy: the Wolf That Won" is about a large wolf that preys on cattle so hunters are always after him. The first part of the story tells how he grows up as a pup, looses his mother and is raised by another wolf, his foster-siblings die from poisoning so then he gets all the milk and grows larger than most. Looses his foster mother at the hand of man as well but is old enough to fend for himself. Soon gains the attention of men from killing cattle- the second half of the story is mostly from human viewpoint, how they hunt down the wolf with dog packs. In this one the wolf is victor, but still it's unsettling to read how all the dogs are killed by the wolf (the author warns you ahead of time this is coming, in case you want to stop reading!) Not one of my favorites.
"The Boy and the Lynx"- there's a boy visiting some friends (a young man and his two sisters) who live in a small cabin in northern Canada. Out in the middle of the forest. Kid has gone there to recuperate his health, and is having a fine time until they all get ill. (The description of the fever and chills they suffered reminded me instantly of a scene in Little House on the Prairie). Completely debilitated by the illness, they're all mostly bedridden and start to run out of food. At the same time there's a lynx living nearby, has a den with two kittens. The lynx is near starving because rabbit population has crashed. Lynx starts coming to the cabin to steal chickens, and then gets bolder. The boy has seen the lynx a few times in the forest, but now weak and sick he has a hard time recognizing the fierce animal that comes into the cabin to eat the food off their table at night. There's a final confrontation, and even though it escapes alive, the lynx gets the worst of it in the end. The final scene in this story is very grim, and probably also very realistic. I couldn't stop picturing it.
"Little Warhorse"- When I first glanced through the table of contents, thought this was about a wild horse. Nope, it's a jackrabbit. One larger, faster, smarter than all the rest. The rabbit has his speed and hiding places and quick maneuvers to evade dogs and coyotes that chase it. But then humans hold a rabbit drive. The whole town gathers to beat the shrubbery and drive all the wild rabbits into a kind of corral. Hundreds are simply slaughtered, but those that catch people's eye are set aside and taken to use in greyhound coursing. Which usually means the dogs kill the rabbits, while people on the sidelines are betting on the dogs. Our jackrabbit excels here, too- outrunning the dogs time and time again, gaining admiration from the crowd who dub him Warhorse. The rabbit man (whose job is to take care of jackrabbits that haven't been used yet) argues that Warhorse has earned his freedom. The dog people all want to pit their greyhounds against him, so they agree on a set number of matches after which if the jackrabbit is still alive, it can be set free. The rabbit gets holes punched in his ears to mark each race won. But then they argue for more races, because other people are now eager to pit their dogs against this rabbit too. Rabbit man gets into a fight over it. So in this one the main animal character survives in the end, but a ton of his fellow rabbits died for sport.
"Snap: the Story of a Bull-Terrier"- man owns a fierce little bull-terrier dog that is vicious to everyone. It took him a week to earn the dog's trust. He's the only one who can handle it safely, and the dog is always super eager to fight any other dog it meets. Man visits a cattle ranch on business and goes along on some wolf hunts; the ranchers are no longer allowed to poison wolves so track them down to mitigate livestock losses, but their dogs won't actually grapple with the wolf. They have foxhounds to trail the scent, greyhounds to chase, and great danes and wolfhounds to close in the fight- these dogs working together can get coyotes but not the wolf. So the main character brings his bull-terrier along. It is slower than the other dogs (having shorter legs) but once upon the wolf, dives into the fight without hesitation. The men are glad to finally kill a wolf, and admire the bull-terrier's bravery, but the dog takes serious injuries. Sorry to say this is another one where the animal dies.
"The Winnipeg Wolf" is about a wolf that's taken from its den when its mother and littermates are all killed for bounty. The young wolf is chained up outside a saloon where people amuse themselves by setting their dogs on him and poking him with sticks. A bratty child flees his irate father into the wolf's shelter, and instead of attacking the animal defends him. Soon the boy and the wolf are stout companions, even though the wolf is always tied up. Eventually it gets free, is harrassed by people and chased by dogs, but never caught again. When the kid gets sick and dies from a fever, the lonely wolf hangs around town, never leaving into the wilderness. It continues to hate men and dogs but never will harm children. However the townsmen enjoy pitting their dogs against the wolf, over and over until there's a final fight with a whole scrum of dogs against the one wolf. Guess how it ends.
"Legend of the White Reindeer"- I don't quite know what to say about this one. It's set in Norway, about a white reindeer which is born in a herd that is annually inspected by men to pick animals out for training to pull sleds. The white reindeer is big and strong (it fought off a wolverine as a yearling, with the help of its mother), so of course attracts attention. It is taken into captivity and trained, but retains its fierceness and will turn on any man that mistreats it. A lot of this story was a jumble to me though- there were so many unfamiliar place names and foreign terms I had trouble following it. At one point there are races, of reindeer and horses respectively, and the white reindeer does so well it is put in a race against the fastest horse. Then there's a lot of doings among men it seems there was a misunderstanding and someone was going to turn traitor- the white reindeer was harnessed to take him carrying a message but instead of going where he was supposed to the reindeer ran off into the wilderness up a steep trail he'd often followed as a young free animal, and they were both lost in a storm, never heard of again. Which was beneficial to the country. I didn't get it.
Well, in spite of all the dismal treatment animals get in these stories, and the brutal fights, nevertheless I found them engaging and lively, with wonderful descriptions. Seton just is a darn good storyteller. Except for the last about the reindeer, they all stuck in my head vividly. Really like the illustrations, too. I think my favorite was probably "Slum Cat."
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"The Slum Cat"- life of an alley show more cat, with remarkably pretty markings. At first the story is just about the cat's life, how it grows up, daily search for food, avoiding bigger meaner cats, etc. Then the cat starts hanging around what sounds like a disreputable shop that sells pet birds. The seller comes up with an idea to fob off the alley cat as a rare pedigreed import at a local fancy cat show. Everyone is taken in, and the cat gets sold to a wealthy family, who do some remarkable mental gymnastics to excuse every ill-mannered and anti-social behavior the cat exhibits in their nice home. The cat is well-fed and pampered but hates it all and longs to return to its alley. Eventually it escapes and makes its way back home. Story doesn't quite end there, though!
"Arnaux" is about a homing pigeon. The bird lives in a loft that appears to have multiple owners- and the story describes how the pigeons are kept and flown. Different from nowadays... The birds must have excellent navigational skills, endurance and smarts, to make it home again. There's one bit where a pigeon takes a message to get help for a ship stranded at sea, but most of it is about regular homing pigeon races. One bird is less attractive and smaller than the rest, but the fastest racer in the loft. In part of the story this bird gets captured and shut into a different loft on his way home- by a fancier who doesn't intend to actually steal him, but to breed him and then let him go again. He ends up staying in the strange loft for years before escaping and heading straight on home again. But then the pigeon meets a sudden and cruel end. I'm sure Seton just means to show how life is not always kind and fair, but still, you might not want to read this story to a sensitive child.
"Badlands Billy: the Wolf That Won" is about a large wolf that preys on cattle so hunters are always after him. The first part of the story tells how he grows up as a pup, looses his mother and is raised by another wolf, his foster-siblings die from poisoning so then he gets all the milk and grows larger than most. Looses his foster mother at the hand of man as well but is old enough to fend for himself. Soon gains the attention of men from killing cattle- the second half of the story is mostly from human viewpoint, how they hunt down the wolf with dog packs. In this one the wolf is victor, but still it's unsettling to read how all the dogs are killed by the wolf (the author warns you ahead of time this is coming, in case you want to stop reading!) Not one of my favorites.
"The Boy and the Lynx"- there's a boy visiting some friends (a young man and his two sisters) who live in a small cabin in northern Canada. Out in the middle of the forest. Kid has gone there to recuperate his health, and is having a fine time until they all get ill. (The description of the fever and chills they suffered reminded me instantly of a scene in Little House on the Prairie). Completely debilitated by the illness, they're all mostly bedridden and start to run out of food. At the same time there's a lynx living nearby, has a den with two kittens. The lynx is near starving because rabbit population has crashed. Lynx starts coming to the cabin to steal chickens, and then gets bolder. The boy has seen the lynx a few times in the forest, but now weak and sick he has a hard time recognizing the fierce animal that comes into the cabin to eat the food off their table at night. There's a final confrontation, and even though it escapes alive, the lynx gets the worst of it in the end. The final scene in this story is very grim, and probably also very realistic. I couldn't stop picturing it.
"Little Warhorse"- When I first glanced through the table of contents, thought this was about a wild horse. Nope, it's a jackrabbit. One larger, faster, smarter than all the rest. The rabbit has his speed and hiding places and quick maneuvers to evade dogs and coyotes that chase it. But then humans hold a rabbit drive. The whole town gathers to beat the shrubbery and drive all the wild rabbits into a kind of corral. Hundreds are simply slaughtered, but those that catch people's eye are set aside and taken to use in greyhound coursing. Which usually means the dogs kill the rabbits, while people on the sidelines are betting on the dogs. Our jackrabbit excels here, too- outrunning the dogs time and time again, gaining admiration from the crowd who dub him Warhorse. The rabbit man (whose job is to take care of jackrabbits that haven't been used yet) argues that Warhorse has earned his freedom. The dog people all want to pit their greyhounds against him, so they agree on a set number of matches after which if the jackrabbit is still alive, it can be set free. The rabbit gets holes punched in his ears to mark each race won. But then they argue for more races, because other people are now eager to pit their dogs against this rabbit too. Rabbit man gets into a fight over it. So in this one the main animal character survives in the end, but a ton of his fellow rabbits died for sport.
"Snap: the Story of a Bull-Terrier"- man owns a fierce little bull-terrier dog that is vicious to everyone. It took him a week to earn the dog's trust. He's the only one who can handle it safely, and the dog is always super eager to fight any other dog it meets. Man visits a cattle ranch on business and goes along on some wolf hunts; the ranchers are no longer allowed to poison wolves so track them down to mitigate livestock losses, but their dogs won't actually grapple with the wolf. They have foxhounds to trail the scent, greyhounds to chase, and great danes and wolfhounds to close in the fight- these dogs working together can get coyotes but not the wolf. So the main character brings his bull-terrier along. It is slower than the other dogs (having shorter legs) but once upon the wolf, dives into the fight without hesitation. The men are glad to finally kill a wolf, and admire the bull-terrier's bravery, but the dog takes serious injuries. Sorry to say this is another one where the animal dies.
"The Winnipeg Wolf" is about a wolf that's taken from its den when its mother and littermates are all killed for bounty. The young wolf is chained up outside a saloon where people amuse themselves by setting their dogs on him and poking him with sticks. A bratty child flees his irate father into the wolf's shelter, and instead of attacking the animal defends him. Soon the boy and the wolf are stout companions, even though the wolf is always tied up. Eventually it gets free, is harrassed by people and chased by dogs, but never caught again. When the kid gets sick and dies from a fever, the lonely wolf hangs around town, never leaving into the wilderness. It continues to hate men and dogs but never will harm children. However the townsmen enjoy pitting their dogs against the wolf, over and over until there's a final fight with a whole scrum of dogs against the one wolf. Guess how it ends.
"Legend of the White Reindeer"- I don't quite know what to say about this one. It's set in Norway, about a white reindeer which is born in a herd that is annually inspected by men to pick animals out for training to pull sleds. The white reindeer is big and strong (it fought off a wolverine as a yearling, with the help of its mother), so of course attracts attention. It is taken into captivity and trained, but retains its fierceness and will turn on any man that mistreats it. A lot of this story was a jumble to me though- there were so many unfamiliar place names and foreign terms I had trouble following it. At one point there are races, of reindeer and horses respectively, and the white reindeer does so well it is put in a race against the fastest horse. Then there's a lot of doings among men it seems there was a misunderstanding and someone was going to turn traitor- the white reindeer was harnessed to take him carrying a message but instead of going where he was supposed to the reindeer ran off into the wilderness up a steep trail he'd often followed as a young free animal, and they were both lost in a storm, never heard of again. Which was beneficial to the country. I didn't get it.
Well, in spite of all the dismal treatment animals get in these stories, and the brutal fights, nevertheless I found them engaging and lively, with wonderful descriptions. Seton just is a darn good storyteller. Except for the last about the reindeer, they all stuck in my head vividly. Really like the illustrations, too. I think my favorite was probably "Slum Cat."
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Wild Animals I Have Known by Ernest Thompson Seton was selected for me by another LibraryThing member as a part of the 2008 SantaThing. My Santa selected it for me because of my love for James Herriot and other animal-type stories, and it turned out to be a wise choice indeed. Unlike Herriot's work, though, these stories don't all have happy endings — the introduction warned me of this, though, so I was prepared. My edition also came with Seton's original sketches and drawings distributed show more liberally throughout, which I found to be a really nice addition to the stories. The stories themselves are mostly true [I say 'mostly' because Seton admits in the introduction to that a couple of the animal characters are composites of several he observed] and based on his experiences while working and living in Canada.
The stories are both brutal and sweet — Seton's portrayal of the creatures is charming and wonderful, but being that these are wild creatures, the tales often come to a bittersweet end. show less
The stories are both brutal and sweet — Seton's portrayal of the creatures is charming and wonderful, but being that these are wild creatures, the tales often come to a bittersweet end. show less
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