Is God Irish?

http://philosophynow.org/issues/92/Is_God_Irish

“Logic, like whiskey, loses its beneficial effect when taken in too large quantities.” Lord Dunsany (Edward Plunkett)

The author shows, using logic, that the answer is "Yes".

The definition of an Irish atheist is someone who does not believe in God, but believes that Mary is his mother.

Typical misuse of Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem, which speaks purely of mathematical structures. It does not apply to the physical world in any way, except in that that world is defined by mathematics.

You would think that a Professor of Mathematics would know that wouldn't you. Mathematics applying to things in the real world, whatever next.

#4: It's amazing, a physicist tells you that the laws of physics exclude God, you ignore him, but a mathematician tells you what you want to hear, and you lap it up.

Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem barely applies to working mathematicians, much less applied mathematicians. People toss out ideas that certain mathematical theories are Gödel-incomplete, but that's considered wild speculation. Talking about "God exists" being Gödel-incomplete when nobody has remotely formalized an interesting system where that can be stated doesn't approach that level. And Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem is all about unprovability in a given system; speculating that something is unprovable before the system we're talking about is putting the horse before the cart.

If God is Irish, what's his excuse for Bono?

#5 It's true, I have some respect for mathematicians, their subject is far less subjective and opinion based than science. I think you missed two things. One is the light tone of the article. Two is the author's explicit challenge.

Whatever your response to this question ("Is God Irish"), I challenge you to prove it logically.

Oh, and for any physicist you can find who tells us that the laws of physics exclude God, I can find one that says the opposite.

#4: It's amazing, a physicist tells you that the laws of physics exclude God, you ignore him, but a mathematician tells you what you want to hear, and you lap it up.

Come now. Rrp has repeatedly assured us that he doesn't advocate for religious belief.

8: Well, the answer to prosfiles dilemma in #5 is simple: rrp is able to twist the statements of mathematicians to suit his agenda much more easily than he is able to twist the statements of physicists.

#7: their subject is far less subjective and opinion based than science.

Their subject is far more limited then science, too. And they're probably less competent outside their fields then scientists. The scientists that are most likely to speak garbage outside their domain are physicists who have the handicap that physics is unsubjective and subject to simple mathematical analysis; they don't appreciate the problems of other disciplines.

Whatever your response to this question ("Is God Irish"), I challenge you to prove it logically.

Then he abuses logic for his answer. Why is that a good thing?

for any physicist you can find who tells us that the laws of physics exclude God, I can find one that says the opposite.

For any mathematician you can find that tells you that Gödel's Incompleteness Theorem applies to God, you will find two loudly objecting.

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Their subject is far more limited then science, too.

This is a matter of opinion which you have not substantiated.

And they're probably less competent outside their fields then scientists.

This is a slur on mathematicians and again an unsubstantiated opinion. How does one go about quantifying a statement like that?

Then he abuses logic for his answer.

Bald and false assertion. Prove it. Logically.

Does this mean that rrp is about to abandon the pretense that he doesn't advocate religious belief?