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1Michael_Welch
I haven't been around for a couple weeks but now that I'm back for today I thought I may as well offer a perception recently lurking in my maybe limited mind, i. e., that Obama has hit the second term wall as per Reagan re Iran contra and W re the Iraq war unmission accomplished.
Obama's chicken around the neck or dead skunk in the middle of the road ("smellin' to HIGH heaven!") is Obamacare and its yet tepid "rollout" and the idea that O is now par with the Romney course as "untrustworthy."
Now prezes tend to recover from these big lumps in the mashed potatoes -- FDR surely did after the court packing fiasco and so did Reagan and even W, to a degree, but nothing is ever exactly the same following significant disillusionment.
It reminds me of a proposal by none other than John Connelly, once the wounded accompanist to the Jack Kennedy tragedy we've been talking of lately and later Dick Nixon's favorite Democrat and sec'y of the treasury. Well in 1980 Connelly actually ran for president and spent oh I dunno a million bucks or so and got hisself ONE, count 'em ONE, delegate to the Repub National convention that year.
But he had a thought I rather liked at the time and since -- that presidential terms ought to be six years with no "renewal." ("Mexico" you say and NOT a sterling example? Okay granted but maybe we're "not Mexico" is the justification?)
Connelly's argument however was fairly historical in that he noted that presidents do their "best" in the first two years usually and then the rest of it is spent "defending" their programs and they hope institutionalizing them. By the fifth year especially they hit the bumps and then in the sixth the public can't wait for them to go and garner the excitement of the "new" guy.
That does seem apt now as I myself can only perceive something "effective" given the current stasis of "polarization" as say Chris Christie getting elected but with a DEMOCRATIC congress; that's SEEMS to me one way "out." I'd even allow "repeal" of Obamacare as part and parcel IF the substitute and there will need to be one is serious discussion of single payer et. al.
Not much going on here at the moment so I offer this maybe with the result that I get as many confirments as Connelly delegates? (At least it didn't cost me but in time, albeit entertainingly spent, for me...)
Obama's chicken around the neck or dead skunk in the middle of the road ("smellin' to HIGH heaven!") is Obamacare and its yet tepid "rollout" and the idea that O is now par with the Romney course as "untrustworthy."
Now prezes tend to recover from these big lumps in the mashed potatoes -- FDR surely did after the court packing fiasco and so did Reagan and even W, to a degree, but nothing is ever exactly the same following significant disillusionment.
It reminds me of a proposal by none other than John Connelly, once the wounded accompanist to the Jack Kennedy tragedy we've been talking of lately and later Dick Nixon's favorite Democrat and sec'y of the treasury. Well in 1980 Connelly actually ran for president and spent oh I dunno a million bucks or so and got hisself ONE, count 'em ONE, delegate to the Repub National convention that year.
But he had a thought I rather liked at the time and since -- that presidential terms ought to be six years with no "renewal." ("Mexico" you say and NOT a sterling example? Okay granted but maybe we're "not Mexico" is the justification?)
Connelly's argument however was fairly historical in that he noted that presidents do their "best" in the first two years usually and then the rest of it is spent "defending" their programs and they hope institutionalizing them. By the fifth year especially they hit the bumps and then in the sixth the public can't wait for them to go and garner the excitement of the "new" guy.
That does seem apt now as I myself can only perceive something "effective" given the current stasis of "polarization" as say Chris Christie getting elected but with a DEMOCRATIC congress; that's SEEMS to me one way "out." I'd even allow "repeal" of Obamacare as part and parcel IF the substitute and there will need to be one is serious discussion of single payer et. al.
Not much going on here at the moment so I offer this maybe with the result that I get as many confirments as Connelly delegates? (At least it didn't cost me but in time, albeit entertainingly spent, for me...)
2JGL53
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I haven't followed the Obamascare stuff that closely for a couple of weeks. But today I see on the front page of the Huffingtonpost the lead article is all about how Obamacare had a good November, is on tract now and everything is coming up roses.
So which pundit can I trust - Arianna Huffington or Michael Welch?
I think I will wait until March 31 to see who the genius is here.
I think everyone should wait and see, especially those mendacious supercilious robotic parrots at fox noise channel.
I haven't followed the Obamascare stuff that closely for a couple of weeks. But today I see on the front page of the Huffingtonpost the lead article is all about how Obamacare had a good November, is on tract now and everything is coming up roses.
So which pundit can I trust - Arianna Huffington or Michael Welch?
I think I will wait until March 31 to see who the genius is here.
I think everyone should wait and see, especially those mendacious supercilious robotic parrots at fox noise channel.
3JGL53
The headline on Huffpost today is "OBAMACARE SIGNUPS SURGE'"
Hopefully it will not be the John McCain Iraq type of surge. Those are mega-lame.
Hopefully it will not be the John McCain Iraq type of surge. Those are mega-lame.
4southernbooklady
After a failed attempt to sign up when it opened (I hit the same technical issues everyone else did) I tried again the middle of last month, and it went off without a hitch. I was also shocked at how much lower my monthly costs were going to be for the same coverage.
5JGL53
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As one of the 47 per cent of our citizens who are takers rather than makers I welcome you to our socialist health care utopia.
As one of the 47 per cent of our citizens who are takers rather than makers I welcome you to our socialist health care utopia.
6Michael_Welch
I hope that the difficulties with Obamacare eventually lead to something better as per a single payer plan and a truly "socialistic" national health care!
If Obama recovers from this current lapse (and he will to some degree as all prezes usually do) the REAL "test" will be what happens to Democratic candidates next November.
If "Arianna" has a "guess" per that I'd like to hear it!...
If Obama recovers from this current lapse (and he will to some degree as all prezes usually do) the REAL "test" will be what happens to Democratic candidates next November.
If "Arianna" has a "guess" per that I'd like to hear it!...
7JGL53
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Since her guess will not be any better than mine it is of no interest to me.
I would think it all depends on voter turnout (and who can predict that?).
I.e., if the democratic base turns out to vote like their asses are on fire, as they have been doing in the very recent past, AND the repugnantican party fails across the board in its various and sundry attempts at voter suppression, then god will be in his heaven and all will be right with the world, and peace and love will reign.
Otherwise SA-TAN and his repugnantican party minions here on earth will rule supreme. Something like that.
Since her guess will not be any better than mine it is of no interest to me.
I would think it all depends on voter turnout (and who can predict that?).
I.e., if the democratic base turns out to vote like their asses are on fire, as they have been doing in the very recent past, AND the repugnantican party fails across the board in its various and sundry attempts at voter suppression, then god will be in his heaven and all will be right with the world, and peace and love will reign.
Otherwise SA-TAN and his repugnantican party minions here on earth will rule supreme. Something like that.
