The plan of Pas

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The plan of Pas

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1LamontCranston
May 6, 2014, 1:29 am

I've read Book of the New Sun, Book of the Long Sun, and now I'm reading Book of the Short Sun, and I have to say the plan for the generation ship doesn't make a whole lot of sense:

>build generation ship
>wipe inhabitants minds of knowledge of their home, and that they are on a generation ship
>why? I dunno because lol
>set course for hundreds of years
>arrive at chosen system
>nobody knows how to depart thanks to memory wipes
>nobody knows how to use the landing craft thanks to the memory wipes
>much of the generation ship is breaking down and nobody can repair it thanks to the memory wipes
>nobody knows how to make the landers work thanks to memory wipes and ignorantly using their circuit boards as currency
>nobody knows how to return the landers thanks to the memory wipes, having ignorantly stripped them of usable parts when they arrived
>all grains are hybrids that are sterile imperilling the colonists
>they could bring no high technology on the landers quickly regressing them back to pre-industrial times
>oh and nobody checked out the system in advance cause if they had they would have known about the predatory inhabitants of another planet in the system that are capable of crossing to the colonised planet which the inhabitants have no means of defending against thanks to lack of technology

What was the point? It's on the verge of total break down.

2DugsBooks
May 6, 2014, 11:14 am

#1 I am sorry you don't understand the books. I think I get the point even though I have not read them. They are obviously a metaphor for a government program - probably military. ;-)

3LamontCranston
Edited: May 6, 2014, 11:39 am

Oh I understand many of the subtleties going on, but the overarching plot for the colonisation stretches credulity

What do you think it is a metaphor about a government and military?

4DugsBooks
May 6, 2014, 5:20 pm

Just my attempt to be humorous, the long list you provided reminded me of cliche complaints about some military exploits. The obstacles seem to be insurmountable, how was there a second book?

5rshart3
May 6, 2014, 10:08 pm

I'm an admirer of Wolfe, but that set was the exception. The whole series felt flat and wooden, as well as the implausibility you pointed out. He should have let the sun set with the first quartet, which was brilliant, magical, and profound.

6lorax
May 7, 2014, 10:00 am

Remember that Typhon was entirely insane, and that Typhon became Pas. Figuring out the motives when it's not entirely clear what state he was in at the time isn't exactly easy, at least not for me.

7LamontCranston
May 7, 2014, 6:16 pm

His family sure was, but his uploaded mind in long sun and the revived body in new sun both acted rationally

8lorax
May 7, 2014, 8:45 pm

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Sure, but when did he formulate The Plan? Most of the problems listed in the OP all stem from the mind-wipe, and it seems that getting the colonists to forget Typhon and remember only Pas would be rather high on his list of priorities.

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