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1Michael_Welch
Edited: Oct 22, 2014, 2:46 pm

I was just having more fun making copies of Jean Harlow photos -- someone with immense joi d'vivre who ended so sadly and so painfully -- but then that reminded me that "life" isn't always a trip down memory lane but "It's real! It's earnest!" which meant it was "time" I guess to discuss Obama (sigh!) again.

Republicans are riding this coming election not so much on ONE Obaman but on the Jimmy Carterish configuration (or conflagration?) of snake bitten presidency rivaling that of his supposed hapless predecessor the W that walks like "Walk! Walk! Walk!"? ("Walk Don't Run"?)

Here's this guy, the first semi black prez, who wipes out upteen "terrorists" (collaterals uh notwithstanding huh) INCLUDING Oswami Ben Lawton hisself and not with thousands of "boots" but with unassuming albeit "sinister" drones while gradually relieving the American people of responsibility for a) Iraq and b) the rest of the world. (We're ready now for self absorption! The American way! 1930s redux and Jean Harlow eh!)

Then what Bunkie? Icy ISILISISIS ruins all our fun by making "US" guilty again re Iraq and who knew ANYTHING about "Yazidis" until "they" started killing them for believing in um uh whatever "devils" it seems and not the Great And Powerful Oz known as "Allah" or "Al" for short. (I think Rex Ingram played him in Korda's "Thief of Bagdad"?)

I mean "Obamacare" and dead vets were bad enough but then they were losing their "juice" except for those terminally ill at ease with government programs NOT sending THEM a DIRECT check. But then geez these NEW maniacs (making Saddam look uh "moderate") chopping off heads even if General George Crook in 1872 ordered his Apache scouts to "bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia" er Apaches who "jumped the reservation" like in the movies. But that was yesterday -- and yesterday's gone! As they say.

So do we weasel our way out of Iraq as we did re Syria? Or do we "save" as did W's dad the shi'ites on the mountain (now transformed into Yazidis who believe WHAT doc?) waaaay back in the last century huh. Can Obama do LESS than GHWB? No lads and lassies he (sort of) rides to the rescue and now the US is (sort of) helping the Kurds hold Kurdishville by convincing the Turks to let said Kurds cross from Turkey into Syria where hehheh they might have "some terrible accident"?

But look if Uncle Sugar isn't going in (but for Bombs Away!) SOMEBODY has to and I guess it ain't the Turks. (Why IS Istanbul not "Constantinople" -- 'cuz YOU lost Christian Bunkie!)

And on top of the whole mess is EBOLA! An obviously Obaman imported disease designed to devastate what Rick Perry's Texas?! And Dallas jus' can't catch a break even as a LIBERAL Democratic town! Start by walling off the MEXICAN border (say wha'?) and THEN west Africa (WHEREVER that is!) and maybe Gaza and Tehran (naw that's the Jews' problems!) and if we elect a bunch of REPUBLICANS to the senate that'll show that Obama ya shure you betcha!

I understand there was some mass "walk out" from a speech he was making today and gee they never did that to Carter even! And you could resign you know and make Joe take over except his kid got kicked out of the navy for being "coked up! ready to go!" and shit man! TWO MORE FUCKING YEARS OF THIS!

And W's Dallas neighborhood don't worry about EBOLA dad! No way! And what's THAT guy doing? Threatening to send his baby brother after ya -- JEB YOU be prez for a while; make 'em "like me" again like in Catch 22 when the colonels tell Yossarian he CAN go back to the states! "What do I have to do?" "Like us!" (On Facebook?)

Hey the guy's hair IS turning pardon the expression "white" -- no wonder why...

2RickHarsch
Oct 20, 2014, 6:15 pm

You're right, Obama can't win. But every president is the revenge of his predecessor. Can you imagine the pain they felt during Clinton's reign? And of course it was the pain of Reagan that got me over here, though I didn't manage until a second Bush had been more or less voted into office. But things are definitely changing over time. The right is further to the right. The moderate in general would make a good Nazi German functionary. The few avowed Republicans here on LT are a truly vicious yet cold crew, bloodless and lusting for blood--I suppose it makes sense...

3Michael_Welch
Oct 20, 2014, 6:24 pm

Maybe that's why I sometimes think it'd be "better" if JEB actually got elected -- he'd likely be more "moderate" (I don't think "moderates" are nazis but that's a matter of perception I guess) so Repubs daren't pull this shit on HIM as they do Obama.

I think there's more "lust" for "office," i. e., for power than for "blood" per se -- and anyway presidents haven't the "power" usually ascribed to them, not even Reagan!, which is the power to make "it" ALL better and in four years bubbie (or else)!...

4rolandperkins
Edited: Oct 20, 2014, 8:01 pm

". . .Imagine the pain they felt during
(Bill) Clinton's reign . . ."

The "pain" shouldn't have been as great as now
given that Clinton was "half a Republican".

They did force Bill to withdraw his nomination
of GOP (!) Gov. William Weld (R, MA) as
ambassador to Mexico by calling Bill's
vote-counting skills into play and making him
realize that Weld couldn't be confirmed.
Oh, come to think of it, the Republican
House even impeached him! But the GOP
were smart enough not to convict. (They
presumably didn't want an INCUMBENT
Al Gore running in 2000.)

A local observer here believes that
the GOP animosity toward Obama is
explainable because he's Black (and proves
how bigoted they are). I answered that
all the Democrat presidents I can
remember (and I remember back to FDR)
have been treated the same. (I'm a
Democrat b t w, and consequently have
more often voted on the losing side for
president.) The GOP have proved
themselves "Equal Opportunity Bigots."

5JGL53
Edited: Oct 20, 2014, 9:07 pm

> 4

As an aide and just for accuracy sake - in the 21 Presidential elections from FDR's first win in 1932 to Obama's reelection in 2012 a democrat won twelve times and a republican only nine. So 57 per cent of something is not "the losing side."

But I digress.

6DugsBooks
Oct 20, 2014, 9:56 pm

The mess left in Iraq by "Mission Accomplished" Bush is a horrid affair. I find it difficult to believe that idiot Maliki could not read their own native tea leaves and reach a stable agreement between the two differing religious factions. It looks like the only kind of government the Iraq leaders are good at is a police state where they brutally rule their own people. Pumped up despots unwilling to defend their own country unless they are hiding behind a foreign power is my unstudied perception of the situation - probably superficial but there it is.

Obama's low popularity ratings confuse me when you consider the progress he has made with healthcare and bringing back soldiers from foreign countries.

7Michael_Welch
Oct 22, 2014, 2:19 pm

Re the impeachment and trial of William Jefferson Clinton over an "affair" with a young woman that was really a rather "sad" and embarrassing one (for both of them) I think BC ought to have resigned (it was 1999 after all and he'd been prez for six years, usually the "limit" for presidential effectiveness anyway) so that Gore could have run as an incumbent in 2000 -- "party" before the "personal" but that hardly ever happens in a non parliamentary system. (See Maggie Thatcher eh.)

That nascent and potential "dictators" exist in political systems which have never acclimated to what "we" call the "peaceful transferal of power" (often taken so much for granted by "US") cannot be surprising really but as I said before "we" broke it (Iraq) so we "bought it" in a way.

Right now some sort of "zone" along the Turkish-Syrian-Iraqi border is being discussed which the Turks don't object to because they believe it will bring "Uncle" into the Syrian civil war (at last!). Obama and Kerry I imagine are contemplating this "future" with a certain resigned grimness?

(When historians "start on" the O they will have quite a RICH subject with which to "mine" -- they'll have to conflate the Bush and Obama presidencies and later maybe even another Bush -- or Clinton? -- presidency? It's been an interesting century already -- uh maybe just as was the last?...)

8DugsBooks
Oct 22, 2014, 10:25 pm

Yeah Pres Clinton had a rather distracting imbroglio while in office which affected neither national security,order or welfare. It earned tens {hundreds?} of millions of dollars for the media and what about compared to those European leaders - like France .....yadda yadda yadda.

9Michael_Welch
Oct 27, 2014, 2:16 pm

What the "imbroglio" did also was help to elect George W. Bush...