Combination Issues: Who Should Fix?
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2MarthaJeanne
Any message you send telling people to do something is going to piss them off. If it bothers you, fix it yourself. If it doesn't bother you that much either post it to be fixed or leave it for the next person who sees it.
3lorax
If they didn't fix it when they broke it, they aren't likely to respond well to being asked, however politely, to fix it later.
5aulsmith
Frankly, I have a lot of trouble with the Combination Issues. I try to do them when I notice that I've created them, but sometimes it requires information I don't have or judgments about the best way to list things in CK which are something I'm not good at and don't really care about.
So I'd just as soon leave it for someone who cares.
So I'd just as soon leave it for someone who cares.
6AnnieMod
I try to fix these issues when I see them (or when I cause them) but... not everyone has the time to finish something or the desire to go and chase some obscure piece of information so they can do a good job with the CK editing. Not to mention multi-language CKs -- if you cannot even recognize the letters (Cyrillic, Japanese and so on), chances of getting them moved correctly and to the correct place are not very high. I'd rather have the splitter leave it like that (or post here so someone else can look) then make a decision without checking which leads to bad data.
Sending a message is a bad idea if you ask me - everyone volunteers their time - sending them a message to tell them - well, you helped but come and clean your mess - can cause offense.
Sending a message is a bad idea if you ask me - everyone volunteers their time - sending them a message to tell them - well, you helped but come and clean your mess - can cause offense.
11smcwl
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The CK information was transferred to the author Jan Wagner (1), and the old CK information on the split author then deleted.
(I don't know how to "strike through" the URL to indicate "done", though.)
The CK information was transferred to the author Jan Wagner (1), and the old CK information on the split author then deleted.
(I don't know how to "strike through" the URL to indicate "done", though.)
14MarthaJeanne
>11 smcwl: You can't someone else's message.
15smcwl
>14 MarthaJeanne: MarthaJeanne
I'm sorry, I didn't understand your message (14). Could you please explain? Thank you
I'm sorry, I didn't understand your message (14). Could you please explain? Thank you
16MarthaJeanne
If someone else has written a message, only that person can change it. you can't strike through things on someone else's message.
25smcwl
>23 MsMaryAnn: Done
26MsMaryAnn
>25 smcwl: Thank you!
That author writes under 3 names: Claire North, Catherine Webb and Kate Griffin. The last has issues too!
http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinkate
That author writes under 3 names: Claire North, Catherine Webb and Kate Griffin. The last has issues too!
http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinkate
29smcwl
>27 Collectorator:
I have done this, but I think that the personal and family names are reversed on the disambiguation page for Molnár Gábor :
https://www.librarything.com/author/molnrgbor
Could someone familiar with Hungarian convention check/change? Thanks
I have done this, but I think that the personal and family names are reversed on the disambiguation page for Molnár Gábor :
https://www.librarything.com/author/molnrgbor
Could someone familiar with Hungarian convention check/change? Thanks
312wonderY
>30 Collectorator: done.
322wonderY
I don't know how to alias authors.
Jennifer Dawson (2) also writes under the pseudonym Julia Devlin:
http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia-1
Jennifer Dawson (2) also writes under the pseudonym Julia Devlin:
http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia-1
33AnnieMod
>32 2wonderY:
Click on the Edit division link on the main author page (http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia)
There is a tab saying "Alias divisions to other authors" which will lead you here: http://www.librarything.com/author_split.php?author=devlinjulia&page=alias
Post back if you would rather have someone else do the aliasing :)
Click on the Edit division link on the main author page (http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia)
There is a tab saying "Alias divisions to other authors" which will lead you here: http://www.librarything.com/author_split.php?author=devlinjulia&page=alias
Post back if you would rather have someone else do the aliasing :)
342wonderY
Ah! I never noticed those tabs.
It says: "You can only alias to the "top level" of an author (eg., "adamsjohn" not "adamsjohn-1")."
There are two Jennifer Dawsons. Is aliasing going to make the web even more complex?
It says: "You can only alias to the "top level" of an author (eg., "adamsjohn" not "adamsjohn-1")."
There are two Jennifer Dawsons. Is aliasing going to make the web even more complex?
35AnnieMod
>34 2wonderY:
Oh yes - it will....
You can always alias to the full author and then assign the works to the correct one. (I just aliased - not sure which work goes where so if you know, feel free to fix it). Never found a better way for these.
Alternatively if she has a third name that is just her own, it can alias into it. I wish we could alias division into division but it is not possible.
Oh yes - it will....
You can always alias to the full author and then assign the works to the correct one. (I just aliased - not sure which work goes where so if you know, feel free to fix it). Never found a better way for these.
Alternatively if she has a third name that is just her own, it can alias into it. I wish we could alias division into division but it is not possible.
372wonderY
>35 AnnieMod: Thanks for the tutorial!
382wonderY
>36 Collectorator: All those titles belong to the same author. Once they are collected, does the disambiguation page go away?
45smcwl
>40 Collectorator:
Monica Byrne - Done
Monica Byrne - Done
64tjsjohanna
#62 and 63 done
65tjsjohanna
#58-60 done - also, it looks like #61 is taken care of as well.
682wonderY
>49 Collectorator: Seems to be done.
>54 Collectorator: I did as much as possible there.
>58 Collectorator: Same.
>54 Collectorator: I did as much as possible there.
>58 Collectorator: Same.
71tjsjohanna
#47 & #48 done
74tjsjohanna
#50 is done
802wonderY
>79 Collectorator: Done. Quite a couple of talented guys, eh?
812wonderY
>73 Collectorator: Done.
822wonderY
>70 Collectorator: Done.
852wonderY
>84 Collectorator: Neil Hanson (1) wrote a book about the Great Fire of London, but it's title is The Dreadful Judgement. Any idea if that second title is perhaps a different edition?
872wonderY
Neither of the Neil Hansons I found offered much in the way of biographic or bibliographic detail. Oh well, we did our best.
91tjsjohanna
#51 & #52 are done
93tjsjohanna
#69 is done
962wonderY
>92 Collectorator: I was able to find information on Erik (1), but not Erik (2).
972wonderY
>94 Collectorator: Done, except I can't get the Combination issues notice to go away.
982wonderY
>95 Collectorator: Done. Unhappy not to find a picture of de Bury (2)
105tjsjohanna
Numbers 72, 75, 83 & 84 all done
109tjsjohanna
#88 done
1112wonderY
>106 Collectorator: Done, but I separated a third author out, and since the work is a 1929 brochure, I didn't look very hard for the author information. Too many other projects with better prospects.
117tjsjohanna
#89 done
120bergs47
I think this needs some splitting but I am terrified to do it because I will get shouted at.
http://www.librarything.com/author/matthewsjason
http://www.librarything.com/author/matthewsjason
1212wonderY
>120 bergs47:
Who's going to shout at you? I split it three ways and moved the biographic CK to the right place, but staff will have to re-direct the LT author link. I'll ask Loranne to do so.
Who's going to shout at you? I split it three ways and moved the biographic CK to the right place, but staff will have to re-direct the LT author link. I'll ask Loranne to do so.
1222wonderY
>116 Collectorator: I researched and tucked the Harlaam Legend back into the main author. Der Linde published his examination in Dutch in the 1870, and Hessels translated to English in 1871.
https://archive.org/details/haarlemlegendin00lindgoog
https://archive.org/details/haarlemlegendin00lindgoog
123JerryMmm
@2wonderY his family name includes 'van'.
Cool find, with some interesting names mentioned in the translation introduction. Joh. Enschedé is probably related to the famous printers in .nl, currently printing money and stamps among other security related stuff.
Cool find, with some interesting names mentioned in the translation introduction. Joh. Enschedé is probably related to the famous printers in .nl, currently printing money and stamps among other security related stuff.
1272wonderY
I don't have time this evening, but I'll do the work tomorrow unless someone wants to do it.
135bergs47
Could 2wonderY try Brad Smith for me... You did #120 so nicely.
https://www.librarything.com/author/smithbrad
https://www.librarything.com/author/smithbrad
1372wonderY
>106 Collectorator: is done. I think I did it previous to today and forgot to report it.
1422wonderY
Everyone is on the internet in some way or another, eh?
Well, maybe not. But many authors have been interviewed, even by local press, and most of that is now online.
Well, maybe not. But many authors have been interviewed, even by local press, and most of that is now online.
1582wonderY
>156 Collectorator: See >122 2wonderY:. There was no need to seperate the author.
162smcwl
>160 Collectorator:
Done - (David Lewis)
Done - (David Lewis)
163smcwl
>150 Collectorator: Julie Watson is done.
167henkl
>161 Collectorator: Done.
179AnnaClaire
>178 Collectorator: I read that author name phonetically as "Car-pool" rather than as "Carr, Paul." Am I weird or something? :-p
185leselotte
>182 Collectorator: Done.
Weird, though. I was the one who combined and split, and after fixing one gender issue, no other combination issues showed up when I left ...
Weird, though. I was the one who combined and split, and after fixing one gender issue, no other combination issues showed up when I left ...
186leselotte
>183 Collectorator: This was weird, too.
This page didn't need splitting after all, because one of the authors wasn't, in fact, Heinz Kähler, but Heinz Köhler - and this is what was set as primary author. No idea why he showed up with Kähler.
I changed the primary author to Kohler, Heinz and combined this book where it belonged.
The Kohler page needs splitting now, though. And for some works, it should be spelled Köhler. I'll see what I can do (have to go to work in a few minutes, so please don't mind if it doesn't get finished till tonight or so!)
This page didn't need splitting after all, because one of the authors wasn't, in fact, Heinz Kähler, but Heinz Köhler - and this is what was set as primary author. No idea why he showed up with Kähler.
I changed the primary author to Kohler, Heinz and combined this book where it belonged.
The Kohler page needs splitting now, though. And for some works, it should be spelled Köhler. I'll see what I can do (have to go to work in a few minutes, so please don't mind if it doesn't get finished till tonight or so!)
191Jarandel
>186 leselotte: There are several versions of how some accented characters end up being rendered to author urls on LT:
• Closest-looking non accented, but I think that one usually wins out only when a large enough amount of users rendered them as such in their entries to begin with
• Long html description ("eacute" for é) which mean a name with several such characters can of course often end up truncated to what is effectively a very short (and sometime not very distinctive) part of the whole due to character limit
• Omission
Heinz Kähler and Heinz Köhler apparently suffered the later one, resulting in an identical khlerheinz
• Closest-looking non accented, but I think that one usually wins out only when a large enough amount of users rendered them as such in their entries to begin with
• Long html description ("eacute" for é) which mean a name with several such characters can of course often end up truncated to what is effectively a very short (and sometime not very distinctive) part of the whole due to character limit
• Omission
Heinz Kähler and Heinz Köhler apparently suffered the later one, resulting in an identical khlerheinz
198leselotte
>191 Jarandel: Thanks for the info :)
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