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1Collectorator
Mar 19, 2015, 12:52 pm

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2MarthaJeanne
Mar 19, 2015, 12:58 pm

Any message you send telling people to do something is going to piss them off. If it bothers you, fix it yourself. If it doesn't bother you that much either post it to be fixed or leave it for the next person who sees it.

3lorax
Mar 19, 2015, 1:02 pm

If they didn't fix it when they broke it, they aren't likely to respond well to being asked, however politely, to fix it later.

4Collectorator
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5aulsmith
Mar 19, 2015, 9:21 pm

Frankly, I have a lot of trouble with the Combination Issues. I try to do them when I notice that I've created them, but sometimes it requires information I don't have or judgments about the best way to list things in CK which are something I'm not good at and don't really care about.

So I'd just as soon leave it for someone who cares.

6AnnieMod
Mar 19, 2015, 9:28 pm

I try to fix these issues when I see them (or when I cause them) but... not everyone has the time to finish something or the desire to go and chase some obscure piece of information so they can do a good job with the CK editing. Not to mention multi-language CKs -- if you cannot even recognize the letters (Cyrillic, Japanese and so on), chances of getting them moved correctly and to the correct place are not very high. I'd rather have the splitter leave it like that (or post here so someone else can look) then make a decision without checking which leads to bad data.

Sending a message is a bad idea if you ask me - everyone volunteers their time - sending them a message to tell them - well, you helped but come and clean your mess - can cause offense.

7bernsad
Mar 19, 2015, 10:34 pm

If it bothers you, fix it.

8Collectorator
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9Collectorator
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11smcwl
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4>

The CK information was transferred to the author Jan Wagner (1), and the old CK information on the split author then deleted.

(I don't know how to "strike through" the URL to indicate "done", though.)

12Collectorator
Mar 21, 2015, 5:01 am

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13TheoClarke
Mar 21, 2015, 3:56 pm

14MarthaJeanne
Mar 21, 2015, 4:35 pm

>11 smcwl: You can't someone else's message.

15smcwl
Mar 21, 2015, 6:11 pm

>14 MarthaJeanne: MarthaJeanne

I'm sorry, I didn't understand your message (14). Could you please explain? Thank you

16MarthaJeanne
Mar 21, 2015, 6:16 pm

If someone else has written a message, only that person can change it. you can't strike through things on someone else's message.

17smcwl
Mar 21, 2015, 6:26 pm

Thanks for clarifying! Of course, --that makes sense.

18Collectorator
Mar 21, 2015, 9:01 pm

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19Collectorator
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20AnnieMod
Mar 25, 2015, 1:05 am

21Collectorator
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22Collectorator
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24TheoClarke
Mar 28, 2015, 8:25 am

25smcwl
Mar 29, 2015, 4:08 am

26MsMaryAnn
Mar 29, 2015, 12:44 pm

>25 smcwl: Thank you!

That author writes under 3 names: Claire North, Catherine Webb and Kate Griffin. The last has issues too!

http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinkate

27Collectorator
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28smcwl
Apr 1, 2015, 12:02 am

Done, for English and Norwegian.

29smcwl
Edited: Apr 1, 2015, 1:33 am

>27 Collectorator:

I have done this, but I think that the personal and family names are reversed on the disambiguation page for Molnár Gábor :

https://www.librarything.com/author/molnrgbor

Could someone familiar with Hungarian convention check/change? Thanks

30Collectorator
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312wonderY
Apr 14, 2015, 7:19 am

322wonderY
Apr 14, 2015, 7:29 am

I don't know how to alias authors.

Jennifer Dawson (2) also writes under the pseudonym Julia Devlin:
http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia-1

33AnnieMod
Apr 14, 2015, 2:14 pm

>32 2wonderY:

Click on the Edit division link on the main author page (http://www.librarything.com/author/devlinjulia)
There is a tab saying "Alias divisions to other authors" which will lead you here: http://www.librarything.com/author_split.php?author=devlinjulia&page=alias

Post back if you would rather have someone else do the aliasing :)

342wonderY
Apr 14, 2015, 2:22 pm

Ah! I never noticed those tabs.

It says: "You can only alias to the "top level" of an author (eg., "adamsjohn" not "adamsjohn-1")."

There are two Jennifer Dawsons. Is aliasing going to make the web even more complex?

35AnnieMod
Apr 14, 2015, 6:04 pm

>34 2wonderY:

Oh yes - it will....
You can always alias to the full author and then assign the works to the correct one. (I just aliased - not sure which work goes where so if you know, feel free to fix it). Never found a better way for these.

Alternatively if she has a third name that is just her own, it can alias into it. I wish we could alias division into division but it is not possible.

36Collectorator
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372wonderY
Apr 15, 2015, 7:41 am

>35 AnnieMod: Thanks for the tutorial!

382wonderY
Apr 15, 2015, 7:48 am

>36 Collectorator: All those titles belong to the same author. Once they are collected, does the disambiguation page go away?

39Collectorator
Apr 15, 2015, 10:04 am

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40Collectorator
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41Collectorator
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42Collectorator
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43Collectorator
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44smcwl
Apr 19, 2015, 11:23 pm

>41 Collectorator:
Graham Greene is done

45smcwl
Apr 20, 2015, 7:10 pm

>40 Collectorator:
Monica Byrne - Done

46smcwl
Apr 22, 2015, 12:41 am

>42 Collectorator:

Brian Bates is done.

47Collectorator
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50Collectorator
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51Collectorator
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55Collectorator
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56Collectorator
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57Collectorator
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58Collectorator
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60Collectorator
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61Collectorator
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62Collectorator
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63Collectorator
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64tjsjohanna
Edited: May 14, 2015, 12:57 pm

#62 and 63 done

65tjsjohanna
May 15, 2015, 4:26 pm

#58-60 done - also, it looks like #61 is taken care of as well.

66Collectorator
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672wonderY
Edited: May 19, 2015, 8:39 am

>66 Collectorator: working on it.

Done.

682wonderY
Edited: May 19, 2015, 4:34 pm

>49 Collectorator: Seems to be done.

>54 Collectorator: I did as much as possible there.

>58 Collectorator: Same.

69Collectorator
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70Collectorator
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71tjsjohanna
May 22, 2015, 10:52 am

#47 & #48 done

72Collectorator
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73Collectorator
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74tjsjohanna
May 27, 2015, 10:27 am

#50 is done

75Collectorator
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76smcwl
Jun 5, 2015, 7:26 pm

77smcwl
Jun 5, 2015, 7:36 pm

78smcwl
Jun 5, 2015, 7:39 pm

79Collectorator
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802wonderY
Edited: Jun 8, 2015, 10:34 am

>79 Collectorator: Done. Quite a couple of talented guys, eh?

812wonderY
Jun 8, 2015, 5:13 pm

822wonderY
Jun 8, 2015, 5:31 pm

83Collectorator
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84Collectorator
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852wonderY
Edited: Jun 9, 2015, 3:54 pm

>84 Collectorator: Neil Hanson (1) wrote a book about the Great Fire of London, but it's title is The Dreadful Judgement. Any idea if that second title is perhaps a different edition?

86Collectorator
Jun 10, 2015, 3:25 am

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872wonderY
Jun 10, 2015, 9:23 am

Neither of the Neil Hansons I found offered much in the way of biographic or bibliographic detail. Oh well, we did our best.

88Collectorator
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90Collectorator
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91tjsjohanna
Jun 11, 2015, 10:02 pm

#51 & #52 are done

92Collectorator
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93tjsjohanna
Jun 13, 2015, 11:09 pm

#69 is done

94Collectorator
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95Collectorator
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962wonderY
Jun 15, 2015, 7:40 am

>92 Collectorator: I was able to find information on Erik (1), but not Erik (2).

972wonderY
Jun 15, 2015, 8:10 am

>94 Collectorator: Done, except I can't get the Combination issues notice to go away.

982wonderY
Jun 15, 2015, 8:32 am

>95 Collectorator: Done. Unhappy not to find a picture of de Bury (2)

99Collectorator
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101Collectorator
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102lilithcat
Jun 18, 2015, 9:05 am

103Collectorator
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105tjsjohanna
Jun 20, 2015, 8:14 pm

Numbers 72, 75, 83 & 84 all done

106Collectorator
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107Collectorator
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108Collectorator
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109tjsjohanna
Jun 23, 2015, 2:59 pm

#88 done

110Collectorator
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1112wonderY
Jun 30, 2015, 9:29 am

>106 Collectorator: Done, but I separated a third author out, and since the work is a 1929 brochure, I didn't look very hard for the author information. Too many other projects with better prospects.

1122wonderY
Jun 30, 2015, 12:06 pm

113Collectorator
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115Collectorator
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116Collectorator
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117tjsjohanna
Jul 2, 2015, 2:45 pm

#89 done

118Collectorator
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119Collectorator
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120bergs47
Jul 7, 2015, 6:30 am

I think this needs some splitting but I am terrified to do it because I will get shouted at.

http://www.librarything.com/author/matthewsjason

1212wonderY
Jul 7, 2015, 9:25 am

>120 bergs47:
Who's going to shout at you? I split it three ways and moved the biographic CK to the right place, but staff will have to re-direct the LT author link. I'll ask Loranne to do so.

1222wonderY
Edited: Jul 7, 2015, 10:07 am

>116 Collectorator: I researched and tucked the Harlaam Legend back into the main author. Der Linde published his examination in Dutch in the 1870, and Hessels translated to English in 1871.

https://archive.org/details/haarlemlegendin00lindgoog

123JerryMmm
Jul 7, 2015, 10:54 am

@2wonderY his family name includes 'van'.

Cool find, with some interesting names mentioned in the translation introduction. Joh. Enschedé is probably related to the famous printers in .nl, currently printing money and stamps among other security related stuff.

1242wonderY
Jul 7, 2015, 10:59 am

Ah, yes of course. Sorry.

1252wonderY
Jul 7, 2015, 11:55 am

126Collectorator
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1272wonderY
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http://www.librarything.com/author/slocumjoshua

I don't have time this evening, but I'll do the work tomorrow unless someone wants to do it.

128Collectorator
Jul 7, 2015, 10:22 pm

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1292wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 8:00 am

#23 and #26 are done as well.

1302wonderY
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1312wonderY
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1322wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 10:20 am

1332wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 10:54 am

1342wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 11:13 am

Quiet day for me.

>104 Collectorator: done.

135bergs47
Edited: Jul 8, 2015, 11:19 am

Could 2wonderY try Brad Smith for me... You did #120 so nicely.

https://www.librarything.com/author/smithbrad

1362wonderY
Edited: Jul 8, 2015, 1:09 pm

>135 bergs47: You would give me a Smith! Working on it.

I think I'm done with it. Happy now?

1372wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 2:14 pm

>106 Collectorator: is done. I think I did it previous to today and forgot to report it.

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1402wonderY
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141bergs47
Jul 8, 2015, 4:40 pm

Thanx 2wonderY How did u get the authors pics done?

1422wonderY
Jul 8, 2015, 4:55 pm

Everyone is on the internet in some way or another, eh?

Well, maybe not. But many authors have been interviewed, even by local press, and most of that is now online.

143bergs47
Jul 9, 2015, 3:45 am

I thought you needed permission to post a pic?

144Collectorator
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146bergs47
Jul 23, 2015, 3:55 am

This author needs splitting ... badly

http://www.librarything.com/author/reedphilip

1472wonderY
Jul 23, 2015, 1:28 pm

148Collectorator
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150Collectorator
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152Collectorator
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154Collectorator
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1582wonderY
Jul 27, 2015, 12:29 pm

>156 Collectorator: See >122 2wonderY:. There was no need to seperate the author.

159Collectorator
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160Collectorator
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161Collectorator
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162smcwl
Jul 30, 2015, 1:47 pm

>160 Collectorator:
Done - (David Lewis)

163smcwl
Jul 30, 2015, 1:56 pm

>150 Collectorator: Julie Watson is done.

164smcwl
Jul 30, 2015, 2:01 pm

>151 Collectorator:

Paul Levy - done.

165smcwl
Jul 30, 2015, 2:15 pm

>152 Collectorator:

Stu Campbell - Done.

166smcwl
Jul 30, 2015, 3:10 pm

>153 Collectorator:

Hans Kuhn - done.

167henkl
Jul 30, 2015, 4:21 pm

168Collectorator
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175Collectorator
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176Collectorator
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179AnnaClaire
Aug 5, 2015, 11:14 pm

>178 Collectorator: I read that author name phonetically as "Car-pool" rather than as "Carr, Paul." Am I weird or something? :-p

180Collectorator
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182Collectorator
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185leselotte
Aug 7, 2015, 1:00 am

>182 Collectorator: Done.

Weird, though. I was the one who combined and split, and after fixing one gender issue, no other combination issues showed up when I left ...

186leselotte
Aug 7, 2015, 1:14 am

>183 Collectorator: This was weird, too.

This page didn't need splitting after all, because one of the authors wasn't, in fact, Heinz Kähler, but Heinz Köhler - and this is what was set as primary author. No idea why he showed up with Kähler.
I changed the primary author to Kohler, Heinz and combined this book where it belonged.

The Kohler page needs splitting now, though. And for some works, it should be spelled Köhler. I'll see what I can do (have to go to work in a few minutes, so please don't mind if it doesn't get finished till tonight or so!)

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191Jarandel
Edited: Aug 9, 2015, 5:02 pm

>186 leselotte: There are several versions of how some accented characters end up being rendered to author urls on LT:

• Closest-looking non accented, but I think that one usually wins out only when a large enough amount of users rendered them as such in their entries to begin with
• Long html description ("eacute" for é) which mean a name with several such characters can of course often end up truncated to what is effectively a very short (and sometime not very distinctive) part of the whole due to character limit
• Omission

Heinz Kähler and Heinz Köhler apparently suffered the later one, resulting in an identical khlerheinz

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198leselotte
Aug 11, 2015, 11:40 am

>191 Jarandel: Thanks for the info :)

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