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2Taphophile13
Aug 14, 2015, 12:16 pm

All because bronze age writings say it's right.
So often religious teachings (and I use that word very loosely) seem to be about power, money and sex—an unholy trinity. How many times have scriptures said yes, you can do whatever you want to other people!
This just makes me sick.

3LolaWalser
Aug 14, 2015, 1:00 pm

Sickening it is.

4RickHarsch
Aug 14, 2015, 1:07 pm

How do you begin to discuss something like this? One of my thoughts was that the rapist cannot possibly believe that shit, but I honestly cannot think like either a rapist or a 'believer'.

5RidgewayGirl
Edited: Aug 14, 2015, 1:27 pm

That article gave me a stomach ache. The idea that that rape becomes a holy act if the girls being raped are dehumanized enough is sickening.

6southernbooklady
Aug 14, 2015, 1:18 pm

Yeah, that article made me ill.

"And having sex with her pleases God, he said


...pretty much sums up the reason for my disgust with religion and patriarchy, all in one sentence.

7RickHarsch
Aug 14, 2015, 2:02 pm

Is it really possible to believe that? I mean, that rape is a holy act?

8LolaWalser
Aug 14, 2015, 2:27 pm

I don't really care what these shits believe, I only care for means to kill them all.

9DugsBooks
Aug 14, 2015, 2:55 pm

It will really difficult to have any sympathy for the slimeball cult members when they are eventually routed.

11LolaWalser
Aug 19, 2015, 1:23 pm

Beheaded Syrian scholar refused to lead Isis to hidden Palmyra antiquities

Tortured for a month at 82 years old.

All of this because the West dragged its feet on Syria six years ago. Much more important to posture apelike about Assad the dictator than fight this frightful scum!

13librorumamans
Aug 28, 2015, 4:07 pm

And what happened to the orphaned, pre-pubertal Yazidi boys? Dare one even ask?

While this horror curdles my stomach, the bit about pre-adolescent rape pleasing God doesn't much surprise me — "God" being, more often than not I think, a term for the intangible and ineffable bond that binds and defines a group. The god of a psychopathic movement is going to be a psychopath.

15LolaWalser
Sep 9, 2015, 5:22 pm

>13 librorumamans:

I doubt the boys get sexually molested, if that's what's worrying you. This scum may not think paedophilia's a big deal (why would they? Their fucking prophet, may syphilitic camels piss on his beard in eternity, married a child.), but they sure don't care for homosexuality.

We are not dealing with starry-eyed Persian sybarites here, given to cooing about pretty boys and wine.

I expect any "orphan boys" remain with other Yazidis. Forced conversion and adoption, turning your enemy's children against the enemy, aren't unknown in the history of Islamic conquest, nor is murder of boys, but I haven't heard that either is being undertaken as a project here.

16librorumamans
Sep 10, 2015, 3:36 pm

>15 LolaWalser:

I'm not so sure that if the Yazidi boys are not men, and are moreover of apostate lineage, that sex with them counts as homosexual.

But in my #13 I was worrying more about making them child soldiers and suicide bombers — although in this case it would scarcely be actual suicide.

17white-van-man
Sep 10, 2015, 5:23 pm

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18RickHarsch
Sep 10, 2015, 5:47 pm

Why would anyone argue this: '... these organized bronze age sub-human animals who have nothing but contempt for decent human standards...'? I was just reading the latest translation of the Arabian Nights and you wouldn't believe the shit these people pulled even back then, what? 800 years ago? Fucking, robbing, lying, farting, cuckolding...And then ibn Khaldun himself in the Muqaddimah describes the cycle of warfare amongst these people. It seems it never stops. Even their travel literature is obscene--ever read ibn Battuta? He describes a monkey raping a 12 year old girl in Sri Lanka in the 14th century. And there was, to bring Shiites into it, the Iranian Obeyd e Zakani who exhorted his readers to anally violate the daughters of their neighbors so as not to tamper with their hymens that they may remain good Moslems. He also recommended against jumping into a well unless it was absolutely necessary, as if no one knew that.

I could go on and on, but instead let me post a photo of one of these cocksuckers getting just about a tithe of what he deserves: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/inderjit-singh-mukker-darien-assault

19LolaWalser
Sep 10, 2015, 5:47 pm

>17 white-van-man:

If you can't tell the difference between ISIS and the millions of people you and your transatlantic cousins doomed to this horror, you are a fucking piece of shit racist. But we knew that already since you posted pictures of brown-skinned "undesirables" despoiling your precious hearth.

Empire strikes back, mofo.

20RickHarsch
Sep 10, 2015, 6:04 pm

And Oh Jesus H Christ on a Hard Mattress look what I found in the very Koran: 'And thy people shall visit as a plague to destroy the peoples of the white "horse" (quotes mine, obvious euphemism!)'.

21prosfilaes
Sep 10, 2015, 6:13 pm

>17 white-van-man: Most normal people think that the Irish potato famine fell far below the levels of human decency; should we make sure that the British come nowhere near us, no matter what?

22white-van-man
Sep 11, 2015, 5:04 am

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23white-van-man
Edited: Sep 11, 2015, 7:06 am

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24Molly-the-Cat
Edited: Sep 11, 2015, 6:36 am

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25RickHarsch
Sep 11, 2015, 9:02 am

'Muslim men come as volunteers to a fight for an army to enable themselves to visit a supermarket, buy a slave girl-child, who has been wrenched from loving parents, take her home and repeatedly rape and torture her.' That is by far the best summation of the Middle Eastern imbroglios I have ever read--even going back to pre-supermarket days.

26Molly-the-Cat
Sep 11, 2015, 10:01 am

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27LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 10:11 am

Let's not feed the trolls, let 'em fuck off.

28RickHarsch
Sep 11, 2015, 11:06 am

Who is them? Describe so I can describe them.

29LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 11:11 am

The cockroaches who piggyback on reactions to the Daesh in order to hate on Muslims, brown people etc.

How to describe them? Use the guano palette, Rick, and a toilet bowl brush. :)

30white-van-man
Sep 11, 2015, 11:21 am

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31Molly-the-Cat
Sep 11, 2015, 12:01 pm

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32LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 12:08 pm

And what's your conniving, dissembling, lying ignoring of context? Just a little brain dead?

33LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 12:10 pm

Yes, I only care for killing every single member of ISIS. See >1 LolaWalser: for reasons.

34white-van-man
Edited: Sep 11, 2015, 1:18 pm

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35jjwilson61
Sep 11, 2015, 1:32 pm

>34 white-van-man: You require evidence that there are people living in Syria that do not belong to ISIS? Or that not all Muslims are terrorists?

36RickHarsch
Sep 11, 2015, 1:41 pm

LolaWalser, Saint of Virtue? I don't recall that particular claim. LolaWalser, despiser of dipshit racists? Yes, that I have seen with my own eyes.

37southernbooklady
Sep 11, 2015, 2:07 pm

I think Lola is the patron saint of the pissed off. :)

38white-van-man
Edited: Sep 11, 2015, 2:29 pm

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39LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 2:36 pm

>37 southernbooklady:

Now wouldn't that be horribly ironic. :)

40southernbooklady
Sep 11, 2015, 2:38 pm

>39 LolaWalser: Hey, if you had a medal like St Christopher I'd totally wear it!

41RickHarsch
Sep 11, 2015, 2:40 pm

38 I applaud all kinds of transparency, openness, instances where the ego is left at the door, the behind is bared for good or ill: not many people with such tripe as the height of their creative powers would be willing to publicly post it. Bravo.

42LolaWalser
Sep 11, 2015, 2:48 pm

>40 southernbooklady:

Lol: say a prayer for instant hair-curling, rub twice for apoplexy...?

I told my mum the other day I found a first grey hair, she said, that's great, I didn't think you'd live long enough to see it.

43Limelite
Sep 11, 2015, 9:03 pm

That's the height of the pits.

Imagining their defeat when they're facing an international court for crimes against humanity, their rationale will do a 180.

"The devil made me do it," will be their defense.

Isn't it about time for the believers' god to send another flood? You know, climate change and all.

44white-van-man
Edited: Sep 12, 2015, 3:18 am

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45Molly-the-Cat
Edited: Sep 12, 2015, 7:06 am

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46nathanielcampbell
Sep 12, 2015, 7:15 am

Just a note on chronology: none of the texts being used to rationalize this blasphemy are "bronze age." They're all significantly newer than that.

47TotalBookcase
Edited: Sep 12, 2015, 9:50 pm

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48RidgewayGirl
Sep 14, 2015, 4:22 am

Recognise your obligations in law, that would be good. Recognise your obligations to help people which you’re required to do by law, that would be good.

But above all, open your hearts and open your minds and open your attitude towards supporting people who are desperate, who need somewhere safe to live, want to contribute to our society, and are human beings just like all of us. Together in peace, together in justice, together in humanity, that surely must be our way forward.


Jeremy Corbyn

(Just to remind people that not all Brits are like our current posters.)

49RickHarsch
Sep 14, 2015, 4:59 am

Those to whom your refer, RG, appear to be some strange and sad mockery, like tone deaf Marx Brothers--I see no reason to believe that what they post is real.

50RidgewayGirl
Sep 14, 2015, 5:02 am

>49 RickHarsch: Wouldn't that be lovely if they were just running some pointless long con?

51RickHarsch
Sep 14, 2015, 5:14 am

In a way I think they are, emphasis on pointless. The con is that they really don't care, but because of the nature of the medium they can manipulate without fear of capture and so they can feel superior. They can watch their mindless victims flailing about. Not like a kid pulling legs off a gracehoper, to give Joyce his due, rather kids each spending a day keeping the suffering thing alive, passing it on to the next kid next day, setting records...

52Molly-the-Cat
Edited: Sep 14, 2015, 8:05 am

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53Limelite
Sep 14, 2015, 4:17 pm

>52 Molly-the-Cat:

I'm confused.

Who are these folks? Can't anybody click on my profile?

As to racism/being a racist. . .how does wondering if someone is one nationality or another amount to racism?
In all truthfulness, I could declare here that I'm a native born American. And my ethnicity could be Japanese. Or Lebanese. Or Sudanese. Who would know? Why would they care?

I don't see the point and can't comprehend why it should matter.

54Molly-the-Cat
Sep 14, 2015, 5:05 pm

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55madpoet
Sep 16, 2015, 1:19 am

>46 nathanielcampbell:. Hardly Bronze Age: the Quran was written in the 7th Century C.E. That would place it around the time of the so-called 'Middle Ages' in Europe, or the Tang Dynasty in China. The Bronze Age was from c.3000-1200 B.C.E. in the Middle East, so even the Torah or Old Testament of the Bible was post-Bronze Age.

56nathanielcampbell
Sep 16, 2015, 9:24 pm

>55 madpoet: Well, yeah. The point is that calling something "Bronze Age" is a convenient shorthand to declare is so otherly barbarian that we needn't give it the slightest lip-service in today's great enlightened world. (Convenient, but sadly myopic, since it fails to consider that contemporary liberalism has just as many barbaric blindspots that it refuses to acknowledge -- that is, advanced western secularism can sometimes be just as much a relic of "the Bronze Age" as the religions it decries.)

57RickHarsch
Sep 17, 2015, 12:23 am

The Bronze Age shit used here was used by one or two posters who paraded as several more posters, bigots who were farting around here. There is not need for a serious discussion about it, so I find your parenthetical, NC, more or less on the same level as the original usage, vaguely attacking your conflation of contemporary liberalism and western secularism, two largely different isms.

58nathanielcampbell
Sep 17, 2015, 9:06 pm

>57 RickHarsch: Point taken.

59LolaWalser
Oct 13, 2015, 10:14 am

ISIS in Afghanistan too:

Afghan ISIS Branch Makes Inroads in Battle Against Taliban

The raiders demanded that villagers in the district submit a list of widows and unmarried girls. In some parts, they declared that marriages that had happened under government recognition were suddenly invalid, according to Zaiullah Amaray, a member of the Nangarhar Provincial council. At first, women were allowed to leave the house in burqas, but then were told not to leave at all.

“They said, ‘If anyone has young women or widows, we want to marry them off,’” recalled Aslam Jan, 60, who finally fled Achin this summer after decades of weathering every intrusion to come through. “The Russians invaded, I didn’t leave my home. The Americans invaded, I didn’t leave,” he said. “We had held up through everything. But we couldn’t give up our children.”