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The LibraryThing iPhone App has arrived!

This is a continuation of the topic The LibraryThing iPhone App has arrived!.

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1conceptDawg
Nov 13, 2015, 2:03pm Top

Version 1.0.2 is out now. Update accordingly.

Changes are noted on the app store, but...


• Main authors on book views are now clickable.
• You can now sort your book lists (see button in top nav bar)
• Scanning of barcodes is now better. It sees the barcode better in most situations.
• If there are scanning errors (like the ISBN isn't found on Amazon or a library) then you'll get better feedback within the addbooks/scanning process to let you know this.
• Long text items (reviews, publication) on book pages are now not truncated.
• Lots of small bug fixes here and there.

We are already working on 1.0.3. Hopefully it will be released in a couple of weeks with even more improvements.

2Lyndatrue
Nov 13, 2015, 2:21pm Top

>1 conceptDawg: Just in time for a visit to the book store! Thank you!

3gilroy
Nov 13, 2015, 2:30pm Top

*still looks at his Android phone, ponders his "two weeks"*

4.Monkey.
Nov 13, 2015, 3:13pm Top

*joins Gilroy*

5conceptDawg
Nov 13, 2015, 5:20pm Top

>3 gilroy: If only it were only two weeks to make an android version. :)

6jjwilson61
Nov 13, 2015, 5:32pm Top

Just go through the code and wherever it says iPhone replace it with Android.

7conceptDawg
Nov 13, 2015, 6:56pm Top

I've never thought of doing that.
I'm still thinking inside the box.
We need to hire some real thinkers.

8jjwilson61
Nov 13, 2015, 7:00pm Top

No charge.

9bnielsen
Nov 14, 2015, 6:17am Top

>6 jjwilson61: That remark made my day :-) I like >7 conceptDawg: too.

10johnnyapollo
Nov 14, 2015, 8:47am Top

You guys are awesome. Ignore the android behind the curtain....

11Bookmarque
Nov 14, 2015, 9:00am Top

The improvement with barcode scanning is noticeable. Yay.

12pmlang01
Nov 16, 2015, 10:14pm Top

I'm a new Android owner. Can someone please tell me 1) when is an android version due? 2) which of the various LibraryThing type apps available at Google Play are actually worth doing anything with?

13JerryMmm
Edited: Nov 17, 2015, 1:36am Top

1 at least 6 months away.
2 offline bookshelf browser by sbearlt1 (seabear) not an official LT app.

14Foretopman
Nov 23, 2015, 11:56am Top

I'm just bumping this thread in hopes that people will start posting in it rather than in the old thread it is a continuation of. ;)

15abbottthomas
Nov 23, 2015, 2:20pm Top

>14 Foretopman: Good idea - now its on my 'Your Posts' ;-)

16humouress
Edited: Nov 25, 2015, 1:05pm Top

I was going to ask about how to search my catalogue, because I tried to look up an author while I was in a bookshop - but I've just realised I was logged into the wrong account, and the search works beautifully now I'm in the right place.

Excuse the rambling; just an excuse to get this thread into my 'Your Posts' too :0)

17karenb
Nov 27, 2015, 4:34am Top

IJWTS that I have used this app happily the other week. And this summer I couldn't remember where the heck I put my CueCat! Fortunately, I bought a friend's old iPhone to use as an iPod, and . . I really should finish that cataloging mini-project I started.

Yay! Thanks for the awesome work.

18BFish
Nov 28, 2015, 8:01am Top

Is there a way to edit the information that pops up when you click on a book? Specifically: I don't really need to see "member tags" and would much rather see my "private comments" when using the app. I know I can see those comments if I hit edit, but I'd rather just see them on the primary book screen in the app.

Love so much about this app, just wondering about customizing it to fit my needs.

19Keeline
Nov 28, 2015, 12:20pm Top

I noticed how the background color for the app changes per book cover on the detail page. It seems to be sampled from the left edge of the cover about the middle. Nicely done.

James

20conceptDawg
Nov 28, 2015, 3:10pm Top

>18 BFish: We'll look at adding private comments and comments in the next version.

21conceptDawg
Nov 28, 2015, 3:12pm Top

>19 Keeline: It's actually much more complicated than that. It looks at the complete cover and tries to come up with the most representative color for that cover, not just the left or top edge. It's much better than just blurring the cover (like some other book app we won't mention that added that feature just after we released our app).

We're rather proud of how it came out in the app. Thanks for noticing.

22ironjaw
Dec 4, 2015, 6:48am Top

I'm just wondering are you still offering free lifetime accounts through the app. Thinking about signing my niece up so she can handle her own library.

Oh and I second that comments section.

23timspalding
Dec 4, 2015, 9:29am Top

Yup. Free accounts through the app has continued. (It will continue at least as long as the next version, that has in-app payments.)

24Auntduke
Dec 24, 2015, 7:40am Top

I only use Samsung and android , Kindles

25shikari
Edited: Dec 25, 2015, 8:05pm Top

Two requests: is it possible (1) to get a warning of duplicates before we enter books into the library on the app? (We don't get the post-entry warning, and it would be better anyway to have a pre-entry warning). For my brother with a part-catalogued library and a subsequent move of house, this is a app-killer.
(2) are there plans to give the app a more general iPhone/iPad interface?

26timspalding
Dec 29, 2015, 11:06am Top

>25 shikari:

Are you adding books by typing or scanning. If scanning, I don't see much advantage.

As it stands, you scan, it adds it, but it marks it as a duplicate. You can either live with it, because you want the book a second time, or correct it by sliding the book to the left to delete it. Sum total of effort—scan, or scan plus finger motion. If we added a confirmation step, you'd scan, a pop-up would come up, asking you what to do. Sum total of that effort is scan plus button push or scan plus button push. The confirmation box demands more work than without it.

27shikari
Edited: Dec 29, 2015, 9:01pm Top

Sorry, Tim, I didn't notice the duplication marking or ease of deletion (I don't have it on my own phone which is on iOS 7 so it was the first time I've seen the app in action) and I can't check as I'm no longer in Switzerland, but I'll let him know. Mostly he's scanning.

28MarthaJeanne
Jan 14, 2016, 1:49pm Top

Moving this above the older topic.

29henkl
Jan 14, 2016, 2:44pm Top

>28 MarthaJeanne: Good action.

30Foretopman
Jan 14, 2016, 3:08pm Top

>28 MarthaJeanne:, >29 henkl: ... and I hope it works better for you than it did for me when I tried it at >14 Foretopman: ;)

31Superenigmatix
Jan 19, 2016, 12:39am Top

I'm on an iPad 2 with iOS 9.2 and it will not scan. I've tried other apps and they scan perfectly ok in all shades of lighting. I've tried multiple books, changing the distance, the location, the scanning area - zip. I've rebooted etc etc. LT pp is version 1.03 so fairly new I think.

Any suggestions anyone? Having this work would be the perfect ending to the Shelfari debacle (love that word)

32kristilabrie
Jan 19, 2016, 3:30pm Top

>31 Superenigmatix: Sorry for your trouble. I have just a few questions to troubleshoot this:

- Have you tried turning the "Light" on while scanning these books through the LibraryThing app as well? You mentioned adjusting distance, location, scanning area, but not the lighting.
- When you installed the app, did you allow the app to use your Camera?
- Also, can you email us images of some barcodes you're trying to scan that aren't working? You can send them to info@librarything.com.

Thanks for reporting! If you have any other questions in the meantime please let us know.

- Kristi

33conceptDawg
Jan 19, 2016, 3:34pm Top

I'll take a look using the iPad 2 I have here and see if I can figure out when/why it is giving you a bad experience.

34conceptDawg
Jan 20, 2016, 1:13am Top

>31 Superenigmatix:
I've tested and you are correct. There is a problem with an offset area of interest on the iPad 2 (likely due to the scaled display mode that it uses). We'll take a look and see about fixing that in the next release.

In the meantime, there is a workaround. Try getting the barcode in the normal scanning rectangle, but then move it so that the barcode is below the highlighted rectangle (approaching the bottom of the app view). I've scanned dozens of barcodes by doing this.

One other thing to note: the iPad 2 doesn't have the best camera (and it doesn't have a light to help illuminate things) so you'll want to scan in the most possible light for the best results.

35Superenigmatix
Jan 20, 2016, 2:07am Top

Thanks for the response.

It's an iPad 2 so no light to turn on (I can see the word Light in the app still tho)
It has permission to the camera, I disabled and enabled it just to doubly tell the app it had access
I will email some barcodes and screenshot my scan attempt

Question - does it have to find the book in the catalogue before it pings, or just recognize that it has found a valid barcode?

I am using the app 'i-nigma' to compare with and it pings in a microsecond with the barcodes. The barcode does look a little bit more fuzzy when using the LT app, but that may be my ageing eyes.

(I would do it on my phone but it is only a 4 and on iOS 7.1.2 - had it 4.5 years and it just won't break and give me an excuse to upgrade, dagnabbit!)

36ironjaw
Jan 20, 2016, 3:16am Top

I have a Nintendo DS from 2006 that I bought (as an adult, I know) solely for Super Mario Brothers and 10 years on the device and battery are still rock solid. Not so for my iPhone 5 from 2012. Gotta love the Japanese craftsmanship.

37humouress
Jan 20, 2016, 5:49am Top

had it 4.5 years and it just won't break and give me an excuse to upgrade, dagnabbit!

How odd; these things are designed to fall apart the instant the next version hits the market. Have you tried lending it to your kids / nieces / nephews/ neighbours' kids/ passing shoppers?.....

38Superenigmatix
Jan 20, 2016, 7:31am Top

I've dropped it down concrete stairs, lent it to my daughter to use when travelling by bus when her iPod broke, it has no case or screen protector - makes no difference, just keeps going! The battery life has started to degrade but not serious enough for replacement as I use it much less these days.

They talk about Friday afternoon being a bad time for your device to be manufactured, I think mine was Tuesday morning just after the first coffee break :-)

39Superenigmatix
Jan 20, 2016, 7:37am Top

Thanks for the update I will test in the morning

sE

40Superenigmatix
Edited: Jan 20, 2016, 9:47pm Top

>34 conceptDawg:
So I can't make that iPad work with the offset trick or any trick. However I have another hardly-ever-gets-used iPad 2 (64 GB + cellular rather than the 16 GB WiFi only of the original) and only on iOS 8.3. I fished that out and put LT on and it works (but only with the offset in play) with no trouble.

So either the original iPad is bad (but it scans fine with other apps) or the iOS version is causing a problem. Any other hypotheses?

I will delete and re-install LT on the original iPad and test again. If no luck I will upgrade the 64 GB machine to the latest iOS which the original is already and see if it still works, although I don't want to lose the new scanning ability! - (CD Collection here we come!)

sE

41Superenigmatix
Jan 21, 2016, 4:56am Top

Re-install on the original iPad did not make any difference. The upgrade to the other iPad's iOS will take a little longer thanks to the less than flash broadband speeds here in rural NZ.

42conceptDawg
Jan 22, 2016, 12:23pm Top

We use the standard iOS scanner functions so I'm not sure why one iPad is performing better than the other. It's interesting, certainly. There are other scanning libraries that are available and I'm not sure what the "other apps" are using so I can't comment on that.

Thanks for testing this stuff though, it's a big help. Obviously we don't have every iteration of every hardware configuration on hand.

43Superenigmatix
Edited: Jan 25, 2016, 5:59pm Top

>42 conceptDawg:

So I have upgraded both iPads to iOS 9.2.1

The original iPad will not work whatever I do; logout, reboot, re-install etc

The second iPad will nearly always work, but only with the offset and there are a type of barcode that it finds really hard to scan. As an example the Genesis 1997 Definitive Edition Remasters, only 1 Cd of 5 scanned, but the 2008 Stereo Remixes 3 out of 3 scanned and more easily.

Just based on observation the more simple the barcode layout the quicker and easier LT scanned it. Those of greater height were harder, maybe something to do with the offset problem?

The other scanning software had no issue with any of the barcodes. As for my original machine I don't know what the issue is, I won't re-try it until the offset issue is resolved.

I will send some pictures of difficult barcodes when I have more time.

cheers

sE

44Superenigmatix
Edited: Jan 25, 2016, 6:30pm Top

One last observation is that if the whole height (from top to bottom of the bars) of the barcode is not visible it will not scan. Other tested app will scan with a partial barcode a long as all lines across are available. I have been using the app "i-nigma" mainly for comparison testing.
cheers
sE

45timspalding
Jan 25, 2016, 6:18pm Top

>44 Superenigmatix:

Huh. I find it works when just some is visible—it's fundamentally looking at any part, not the whole, I believe.

46Superenigmatix
Jan 25, 2016, 6:32pm Top

>45 timspalding:
Is that with an iPad 2?

47timspalding
Edited: Jan 25, 2016, 6:41pm Top

>46 Superenigmatix:

Oh, I don't know. I'm just speaking to how (I believe) the code really thinks. I'm not sure why it's defying my expectations :)

Note: I'm a developer her, but not the iOS developer, so I don't know.

48Superenigmatix
Jan 25, 2016, 6:50pm Top

>47 timspalding:
Ok thanks. The behaviour when it scans seems inconsistent - sometime I can see a red line around part of the barcode that looks like its the area it has detected and scanned - when I see that it has worked.

With the other barcode app it scans so quickly I had trouble taking a picture of the scan window with the barcode in it.

49conceptDawg
Jan 27, 2016, 11:04pm Top

Tim is correct here. Generally it will scan even if only a tiny portion of the whole barcode is available as long as it can see the full width.

I'm not sure what might be wrong with your first iPad. The fact that it's exactly the same iOS version, etc. and it's not seeing barcodes that they other iPad is seeing means that there is likely SOME hardware issue happening there.

We use Apple's built-in barcode library. It's possible that one of the stand-alone scanning apps does a better job with scans. Actually, it's probable. They've devoted considerable time and effort into making their app scan as well as it does. It's their reason for being. I'm going to bet they've spent more time on it than Apple has developing the standard scanning library. We could take the standard library and do some serious development around it and probably get to where the standalone apps are, quality-wise, but that will take some substantial development time away from other features to get maybe 10% better at scanning—and I say 10% because, honestly, I have YET to find a barcode that the LTApp doesn't read on my iPhone 6+ and I've likely scanned more barcodes with the app than anyone so far; well, there are one or two barcodes that are worn down so much that I can't even read them and it fails on those...so maybe not 100%. But you get the idea.

We're investigating why the iPad is doing worse. It could be as simple as us getting the math wrong for the region of interest that the scanner is looking at. Still testing.

50Emi801
Edited: Mar 18, 2016, 3:10am Top

I really like the iphone app. It's very handy for looking up books in my collection when I'm at a book store to make sure I'm not buying a duplicate. However, it's pretty useless for adding books, because the only sources are Amazon and Libraries. Almost all of my nearly 6000 books are manga in Japanese, so I really need Amazon Japan. The ability to search Amazon Japan is one of the main reasons I love this site in the first place. I really hope some day the app will allow us to select a different Amazon! (if there is a way to do that now and I'm just not seeing it, please let me know!)

Thanks!

51conceptDawg
Mar 18, 2016, 10:58am Top

We plan on adding new sources very soon. The "other" Amazons are sure to make the list.

52gilroy
Apr 6, 2016, 7:10am Top

Bumping so people will find this thread rather than the ended one.

53DuncanHill
Aug 5, 2016, 1:13pm Top

>12 pmlang01: >13 JerryMmm: Presumably the Android app is still "at least 6 months away"?

54lorax
Aug 5, 2016, 1:19pm Top

>53 DuncanHill:

That seems to be an optimistic assessment, yes. I certainly wouldn't look for it any sooner than then, and most likely I'd give it a couple years.

55DuncanHill
Aug 5, 2016, 1:54pm Top

>54 lorax: I realise the snob value of doing iPhone first, but has anyone ever given any non-snobbish reason for ignoring the 80% of smartphone users who use Android?

56lorax
Aug 5, 2016, 2:01pm Top

>55 DuncanHill:

The usual reason for iOS first/only (it remains to be seen which is the case here) is that it's simpler to develop for since there are fewer devices. In this case I also think there's more in-house experience at LT with iOS development than Android development, and Tim probably has an iPhone. That last one is probably a big chunk of the reason. ;-)

57Collectorator
Aug 5, 2016, 2:03pm Top

People who aren't terribly puffed up with snobbery often use TinyCat on their androids. But that would leave nothing to complain about.

58timspalding
Aug 5, 2016, 2:29pm Top

We've gone over this before. Android has higher market share, but iPhone users use more apps, and use them more. Also, significant device and OS fragmentation makes Android systems much harder to develop for. For an app based on a camera, that would translate into buying lots of machines and then not getting to 100% coverage anyway.

This is why new apps across the industry continue to be more often iOS-first than Android-first.

59lorax
Aug 5, 2016, 2:53pm Top

>58 timspalding:

Also, significant device and OS fragmentation makes Android systems much harder to develop for.

I believe that's what I said. I did say that it was only my thought that your own in-house expertise was stronger for iOS than Android. I'm sorry that I relayed false information in that matter.

And as I have "gone over" before, I entirely understand iOS first, and am fine with it. What I've seen many other places and don't like is iOS only.

60DuncanHill
Aug 5, 2016, 2:56pm Top

Maybe iPhone users use more apps because the apps actually exist...

Is there an Android app in the pipeline, and if so what is the projected timescale, or is it something that isn't going to happen? A "No, we aren't going to do it, stick to using your phone's browser" answer would actually be better than a "Maybe, sometime, perhaps, it's hard".

61suitable1
Aug 5, 2016, 3:01pm Top

>60 DuncanHill:

Hey, be glad you're not a windows phone user like some of us in the wrong 1%.

62DuncanHill
Aug 5, 2016, 3:06pm Top

63john257hopper
Aug 6, 2016, 7:48am Top

#60 - I agree with Duncan that a sober and realistic assessment of whether or not; and, if so, when we might get an android app, would be welcome. If it is not going to happen, best to be up front about it. I understand about fragmentation in the Android market and all that, but there is usually not a huge gap in time between availability of an iOS app and an Android app. TinyCat is, though, a lot better than nothing.

64gilroy
Aug 6, 2016, 8:38am Top

>60 DuncanHill: >63 john257hopper:

If it works like everything else around here... expect "about two weeks" which in LT terms translates to minimum 2 years to never happening.

65conceptDawg
Oct 28, 2016, 5:12pm Top

Just to be clear, we are definitely making an Android app. It has just started development but it won't take as long as the original development because we've worked out most of the hard decisions already. We plan to have it have the identical feature set to the iOS version. Our current plan is about 4-6 months, hopefully on the short end of that. So around March-May 2017. That's all I have for now.

66MyriadBooks
Oct 28, 2016, 8:28pm Top

Yay! Thanks very much for the update and time estimate.

67timspalding
Oct 29, 2016, 3:06am Top

More on development plans here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/237958

68john257hopper
Oct 29, 2016, 6:25am Top

#65 - thanks very much, that is very helpful and informative.

69humouress
Nov 1, 2016, 12:55am Top

Just checking - how do we change the source (Amazon / Overcat/ Library of Congress etc) on the app? If I scan an ISBN which can't be found, can I check a different source?

70kristilabrie
Nov 1, 2016, 10:14am Top

>69 humouress: The LT App has 2 data source options: Amazon and Overcat (which is just called "Libraries" on the app). You can opt to search one or both, you can order which source you want to search first (if both are enabled), and you can also activate the "Quick Find" feature, which will stop your search as soon as it finds a matching result/s.

From your Home page on the app, tap to open the "Account" page; you'll find all of that info there. I hope this helps!

71anglemark
Nov 8, 2016, 8:45am Top

And because OverCat is full of garbage data for Swedish books and Amazon doesn't work, LT is filling up with garbage data as more Swedish books are added using the app. Sigh.

72ccatalfo
Edited: Nov 18, 2016, 9:11pm Top

>71 anglemark: Hopefully the very recent change in how Overcat is handling character encodings (which we discussed here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/218040) as well a bunch of recent encoding fixes for library sources will fix the bad data coming back within the LT App from the Overcat ("Libraries") source.

Overcat isn't actually "full" of garbage data but it was returning bad data to LT. It was like LT was looking at some records coming from Overcat through a dirty lens. That part should be fixed.

Thinking out loud here but it might be possible to undertake a cleaning up of bad encodings which made their way into LT via Overcat and the app. That would require some careful thought though and probably some human intervention.

73MarthaJeanne
Nov 19, 2016, 4:40am Top

>72 ccatalfo: You could start with this one that I added yesterday: 3895663573

74ccatalfo
Nov 19, 2016, 2:04pm Top

>73 MarthaJeanne: Thanks.

That brings up a good point - if there are still sources with incorrect encodings then those won't be fixed until we get the correct encoding set for the source.

So if folks have examples let's try to fix them.

75MarthaJeanne
Edited: Nov 19, 2016, 2:46pm Top

That was GBV, which is usually OK. Uni Wien is also usually OK. But not always. I don't think their records are consistent. Whether this has to do with when the record was entered, who entered it, on what machine it was entered, which individual library the record came from (for GBV), ... I have no idea.

I've come to the conclusion that the current settings are probably the best possible, and when one of these comes up I have to decide whether to accept it or try Amazon.de. They are much better than they used to be, but I still fix more there than on library records, so I tend to use the library even if it reads 'K©œstlich kochen mit Ziegenk©Þse' instead of Köstlich kochen mit Ziegenkäse.

3201019704
3839218217
3901635815 are example of bad Uni Wien ones. Looks like all my recent Uni Wien ones are bad, but you have changed that several times already. Just tried using one of these in Overcat. Ouch.

3852188202
3596180503 are good GBV ones.

OK just tried using Overcat for a book I entered from University of Vienna that didn't have a character issue (9783901635823). I think you have to get ALL The UBW entries out of Overcat.

by 74.20
Other Authors: 15.60,
from University of Vienna (UBW)

Should be Beiderseits der March

76bnielsen
Nov 19, 2016, 2:52pm Top

Minor point: bibliotek.dk records loose their ISBN-13 code when imported in LT, so something is slightly amiss.
I need to copy the ISBN-code from the entry field in "Add books" and then remember to paste it in when I edit the book record a bit later.
Those book I enter with ISBN-10 codes import just fine, so it is just ISBN-13 codes that disappear. Something in DanMark2 mapping?

77mahsdad
Nov 21, 2016, 12:27pm Top

Functionality request on the IOs app.

First, I love it. Historically my LT catalogs have been my reading logs and wish lists and I never really cataloged the books I have had on my shelf for years. I've been scanning them and putting them into a separate collection. I love the fact that the app remembers which collections I want to scan into. Makes life easier.

One thing I discovered is that its a bit cumbersome to deal with books that I already have cataloged. I'm okay with the duplicate logic that the Add/scan function does. No problem there.

But the problem is then I have to go to the catalog search and TYPE in the ISBN, or title to find the original book, so I can edit the collection. Can it be implemented to use the scanner functionality in the search box?

78timspalding
Nov 21, 2016, 4:30pm Top

Good question for ConceptDawg.

79conceptDawg
Nov 21, 2016, 4:35pm Top

>77 mahsdad: We could certainly put a scanner button on the catalog search. It would only be searching that ISBN though. That's the only caveat, though I think that's exactly what you'd want in your case. We'd actually already planned on doing this at some point anyway so that people could search for a specific LT barcode in their library. Maybe we just do this sooner rather than later.

80r.orrison
Nov 21, 2016, 4:48pm Top

Catalog search by barcode would be handy for checking, in a bookstore, to see if I had a book. For that to work, it would have to search works (not my books) and report if I had any copy of the work.

Actually, I think it would be nice if rather than separate add book and catalog searches, there was a single search (with barcode option), which gave search-by-work results in my library, with a button to add if it wasn't found.

That would work while shopping / browsing - to let you know if you already have a work, with the option to add it to your catalog (wishlist if not buying, or some other collection if buying).

It would also work while cataloging - as a check against adding something already added, but with the option there to add it whether or not the work was already in your catalog.

81mahsdad
Nov 21, 2016, 6:19pm Top

>79 conceptDawg: Totally understand that it would be on the ISBN. But wouldn't it be a great pie-in-the-sky thing to take a picture of the cover of the book and have the app find it for you?

:). Yeah I know, you'll get right on that.

Most appreciative of all you guys do. Love it here....

82wifilibrarian
Nov 21, 2016, 7:33pm Top

>81 mahsdad: that would be cool, like Google goggles/image search does.

83conceptDawg
Nov 21, 2016, 10:46pm Top

>80 r.orrison: I think that's coming. Eventually. It's kind of what I've been wanting to do with the main site's Add Books feature for a long time. We might get to it in the app before we get to it on the site. Heh.

>81 mahsdad: Also already on our list of things we'd like to do. There's a fair amount of work we'd need to do to make that a reality but it's definitely on our short list of "fun" things that we'd like to work on.

84mahsdad
Nov 21, 2016, 10:54pm Top

Wow, I was only joking around. That's way cool!

85conceptDawg
Nov 21, 2016, 11:02pm Top

>84 mahsdad: It just might make my 20% time.

20% Time is a Google thing where employees are encouraged to spend 20% of their time on their own fun projects, as long as they have an application to something that Google is doing....which is pretty much everything now.

We don't officially have 20% time at LT but that doesn't keep Tim from ribbing me about all the various side projects that I tend to have going. This may turn in to one of those before too long. :)

86shikari
Edited: Nov 22, 2016, 7:20am Top

Can I second - no, third - the ISBN scanner on the library search change? As I've been using the phone to do some stock work, I'd actually come here to request it. No reason for it not to search for the scanned number in the bar codes field as well as the ISBN field, is there? Not that I use bar codes yet but I'm certainly thinking of doing so. (Being able to Inventory with the phone would be real help too one day.)

More immediately, is it possible too to allow us to edit tags in the app where we can already edit collections for a book? I mean, just treating the tags field as text. I really don't want to have to go into the full page edit mode if I can avoid it. I mentioned this in New Feature requests, but no-one's replied to it.

87conceptDawg
Nov 22, 2016, 2:14pm Top

>86 shikari: Tag editing is a possibility. It's already on a list. I can't tell you when we're going to add it yet though. Right now all of our energy is going into the Android version. Once the platforms are on par with each other we'll start adding more big features. A couple of minor features might get added in the meantime, but not much.

88timspalding
Nov 22, 2016, 3:23pm Top

>87 conceptDawg:

Other-source adding, please.

89conceptDawg
Nov 22, 2016, 4:46pm Top

>88 timspalding: Hah! Are you really requesting features in Talk? You know we speak to each other quite frequently? Like every few minutes most days. :)

But I'll put it on our list. I can't guarantee it because I have to run it by my boss first. His priorities sometimes differ from mine.

90timspalding
Nov 22, 2016, 4:50pm Top

91lorax
Nov 22, 2016, 4:52pm Top

I don't care one bit about new features for the iOS app but I cannot tell you how glad I am to see staff active on Talk again.

92suitable1
Edited: Nov 22, 2016, 6:48pm Top

>90 timspalding:

Some folks just don't know the bump rules. You are supposed to wait at least four hours after posting a request before posting a "bump".

93bnielsen
Nov 23, 2016, 2:37am Top

>91 lorax: I'm with you on that one!

94Collectorator
Nov 23, 2016, 12:01pm Top

Two posts from the previous thread:

221 lilypadma Today, 12:22am
I would like a version for the Kindle Fire

222 JonnyGibson Today, 10:27am
So... I've uploaded my books into a catalogue on my Librarything app, but when I go on to my Librarything account online, I can't find the books. How do I sync from my app to my account online? Any help much appreciated.

95humouress
Nov 24, 2016, 12:57am Top

>91 lorax: But then does that mean they have time to work on all our issues? ;0)

96conceptDawg
Nov 30, 2016, 10:53pm Top

In response to JonnyGibson about the books not showing up:
It could be two things:
1. They are in a different collection that you aren't showing when you are on the LT web version. Make sure you're seeing All Collections when in Your Books by selecting that in the dropdown menu (top-left of your book list).
2. You could be signing on to two different accounts. This is quite common. Make sure you're using the exact same member name on both devices.

As for a general answer, there is zero time delay between the two lists since the mobile app gets it's data directly from our databases via the web. It's the same data.

97conceptDawg
Nov 30, 2016, 10:54pm Top

And I answered the Kindle Fire question in the other thread, but I'll answer it here too, for completeness:

We are working on an Android version and that version should be able to be side-loaded on the Kindle Fire because it's basically just an Android device. We're not doing a specific Amazon-store version of the app though.

98HollandseClub
Edited: Mar 20, 10:29am Top

Loving, loving, loving using the barcode scanner on the app to catalogue our library's collection! It's so fast, I don't even have to pull the books all the way off the shelf before it reads the barcodes.

The only problem is that it does really guzzle battery power from the phone.

ETA: I catalogued 148 books in about 45 minutes, but that also included stopping to type in the ISBNs of about 10 books where the barcodes were covered and also turn the inventory dots green and copy and paste tags for all the books on the PC.

99mahsdad
Mar 24, 2:25am Top

>98 HollandseClub: I agree, using the camera (and flash depending on the lighting in the room) is a power drain. But that doesn't take away how easy it is to get books into my collection. Love it.

100ArmyAngel1986
May 31, 9:53am Top

I don't know if y'all are taking suggestions for iPhone app improvements, but I'd like to second the inventory ability request. Now that I have my very first smart phone (weee!) I'm looking forward to getting the most out of the LT app. The second generation iPad just couldn't keep up, poor thing.

101kswolff
Jul 30, 11:31am Top

Just uploaded the new app to my Android Tracphone. This will help out whenever I visit the bookstore or thrift shops in town. Now I'll have less of a chance of accidentally purchasing a redundant copy of something I already own.

102humouress
Jul 31, 11:17pm Top

Maybe it's just me and there's a way to turn it off on my iPhone (it doesn't happen on my iPad) but if I use the LT site (on Safari) I keep getting a pop-up message about the app which reappears whenever I go to another page.

It's mildly annoying because I don't need to keep being reminded and there are some things I can't / haven't worked out how to do on the app, like look at a series page to check what books I have or haven't got yet in a series in one glance. Not conducive to happiness when you're trying to make a flying visit to a book shop and the pop-up message keeps cluttering up your screen ;0)

103lorannen
Aug 1, 12:26pm Top

>102 humouress: Thanks for the feedback. I'll see if there's some way we can cut back on the banner notifications once it's already been dismissed.

104humouress
Aug 10, 1:29am Top

Thanks Loranne, I'd appreciate that. FYI, I've just updated the iOS on my iPad and it's starting to happen on there, too :0(

105lorannen
Aug 10, 1:25pm Top

>103 lorannen: Apparently this is something determined by iOS, and not us. I'm doing a bit of research on whether we have any control over it whatsoever.

106mahsdad
Aug 23, 8:47pm Top

I was using the app to scan in my CD collection. I didn't want the CDs to clutter up the "Your Library" collection, so I unchecked it and just scanned everything in to a custom Music collection I created. Everything worked great.

Now when I add books thru the website (not the app), the default collection in the Add Books dialog is only my Music collection.

Does anyone know how to change the default collection that LT uses when you add items thru the website?

I'm sure its a quite obvious fix, I'm just oblivious to it

107divinenanny
Edited: Aug 24, 2:02am Top

>106 mahsdad: Can you select 'Your Books' under 'Add to collections' before searching for a new book to add?

108humouress
Aug 24, 10:03am Top

>106 mahsdad: When I was cataloguing our club library collection and changing between collections, I noticed that it didn't always change to the new collection straight away and I would have to reselect the collection I wanted. Of course, that could just have been our old computer system.

109gilroy
Aug 24, 10:35am Top

>106 mahsdad: On the Add Books page, on the left hand column where it lists collections, you should see a button that says "Show All." Click this to bring up your entire collection list. Make sure you make this change BEFORE you search for the next book, or it won't have changed for the existing search.

110mahsdad
Aug 25, 7:34pm Top

>109 gilroy: Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Gilroy, changing the list collections on the left seemed to do the trick.

111Delfi_r
Oct 15, 5:55pm Top

When you try to add a book with the app only found ISBN (scanned or manually entered) are acccepted

Suggestion: Create a page to upload new books. Why use the app for this? Because you have a wonderful feature: the cover scanning app.

I've discovered it only a some months ago as I've updated my data plan to include more data that I need, so I've adding covers to my collection as my main library it's on a house without net access.

112lorax
Oct 16, 10:02am Top

I really don't understand this at all. It almost sounds like you want to be able to scan a cover and have that add the book? That would be an enormous level of effort, especially since you can already scan the ISBN to add, so just *turn the book over* and you can get what you want with the existing system.

113Delfi_r
Oct 17, 1:27pm Top

I explain better:

My main library it’s on a place where I can’t connect a computer to the net now. Only cellphone access.

My library is old enough to have hundreds of books without ISBN and not less that even with ISIBN are not part of any library accessible within the app.

So I can’t add them with the iOS app (I don’t have an Android phone to test)

Only web access can create manually a new entry.

114lorax
Oct 17, 1:50pm Top

Ah, so there's no access to entry other than by ISBN scanning from the app? No title/author search?

115lorannen
Oct 17, 2:59pm Top

>114 lorax: There is, but it sounds to me like they're saying the book in question doesn't come up in search, so it would have to be added manually, which is not a feature currently available on the app.

116lorax
Oct 17, 4:07pm Top

>115 lorannen:

That's what I thought, but they're specifically talking about books without ISBN as being unable to be added with the app. But it may be partially a language issue, it sounds like English maybe isn't their first.

117anglemark
Yesterday, 3:11am Top

>115 lorannen: >116 lorax: My guess is that Delfi_r hasn't realised you can do a text search in the sources, but thinks that only barcode scanning works.

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