Hillary vs Obama: breaking through barriers

See the article at this link.

Edited to connect to the original article, instead of the excerpt on CNN.

So and so will lose because of such-and-such quality, which will be proof of racism/sexism.

I don't know about that. I think either one of them has a pretty good chance in the fall. It's a question of who gets that first chance, and why.

I was referring mainly to the primaries. You're right though, both have a decent chance come November. Hilary more than Obama, in my opinion.

Second article? Sorry, oregon, but I didn't see anything about breaking through barriers. Switched up content?

Thanks for fixing it. Interesting essay. I found these comments especially thought-provoking:

But what worries me is that he is seen as unifying by his race while she is seen as divisive by her sex.

What worries me is that she is accused of “playing the gender card” when citing the old boys’ club, while he is seen as unifying by citing civil rights confrontations.

What worries me is that male Iowa voters were seen as gender-free when supporting their own, while female voters were seen as biased if they did and disloyal if they didn’t.

I don't think it's so simple as to say that if either Obama or Clinton fails to be nominated or elected that it is the result of sexism or racism. But I think we should look at this race from a number of perspectives.

The other distinction between the two is generational: Obama is a boomer, but only barely. I'll know I'm really old when our President is younger than I am!

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I'll know I'm really old when our President is younger than I am!

LOL! My grandmother absolutely detested Reagan. She always referred to him as "that simple old goat" (simple being her word for not especially bright), although he was several years younger than she was.

I'll know I'm really old when our President is younger than I am!

Hehe! I told my mom last weekend, I feel sadly old knowing that a QB who is younger than me is starting in the SuperBowl this year! A president younger than me... yeah, that would definitely do it rofl

Thanks for rubbing that one in. If Obama gets elected, he is six days younger than me.

Doh! Sorry. And this after insulting you already by insinuating that we weren't being insulting enough in this group ;)

Oh, lighten up, yo'all - they are all younger than me: Bill, Hilary, Barak, George, even Cheney (maybe, although he seems old as sin).

Getting older is actually quite grand.

No, Cheney's been around a long, long time. He was just known by other names...

(I noticed you didn't mention McCain).

You are right - I think McCain was in Viet Nam while I was at the high school or maybe the university. But he's not that much older. I could'a dated him except I did not date military guys. I was very prejudiced in those days.

Personally, I prefer getting older to the alternative.

Pat Buchanan wrote an interesting article today regarding the race brouhaha between Clinton and Obama. Buchanan seems to be rather sympathetic to Obama and critical of Clinton (really, no surprise there).

The last two paragraphs jumped out at me:

January raises a long-term question. If an African-American with as great a cross-racial appeal as Obama had in Iowa can be so easily ghettoized in three weeks to where whites and Hispanics, the fastest growing minority in America, recoil, when if ever can a black American be nominated or elected president?

Is Bill Clinton not only “our first black president,” but our last?

are the tallies in?