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1konallis
Edited: Aug 23, 2019, 6:27 am

I just added D.H. Lawrence, Selected Poems, edited by Richard Aldington (1934): https://www.librarything.com/work/23607336

The main book page lists me as the only member with this book, but the info related to my edition isn't displayed. The Editions page shows no members as owning the book.

If I open the book listing from my profile page, I get a different Lawrence Selected Poems: https://www.librarything.com/work/121178/172397007

The main page for this book shows the correct information about my edition, but I'm not listed among the members who has the book.

I've tried adding this book twice. The first time, it was automatically combined with the more popular Selected Poems. I separated them manually but the info about my copy remained confused, as above. Today I deleted my copy and tried adding it again. This time it wasn't automatically combined, but the same confusion happened.

2AnnieMod
Edited: Aug 21, 2019, 7:45 am

Give it some time to settle - there are indexes that may need some time. Deleting and readding causes confusion sometimes.

So let’s leave it stand for a day or three and if it still looks messed up, then let’s see what can be discovered.

3konallis
Edited: Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 am

>2 AnnieMod: Thanks. I originally added the book yesterday and waited to see if the data would update overnight, but it didn't. Maybe I didn't give it long enough.

4MarthaJeanne
Aug 21, 2019, 8:30 am

There are two problems here.

The first one is a bug. That your home page and profile page point to a work that your copy is not in. Part of that could be separating, deleting and reentering.

The second is that work. At some time in the past someone tried to separate out the various 'Selected Poems', which is clear from the disambiguation message. However under other authors we find two editors not including the editor this work is supposed to be by. Also in editions we find examples that are specifically excluded. I have no idea how many different 'Selected Poems' have been published. Some of them could be separated by ISBN, however unlikely it is that those are all accurate, however that still leaves ones like yours without ISBN, that the computer can't distinguish. It is clear that the different selections should be separate works. The question is whether that is possible.

Selected Poems/Lawrence, D. H. (21 copies separate)
Selected poems/Lawrence, D. H. (18 copies separate)

There is a very high likelyhood that each of these two editions includes copies from what should be different works.

The possible Other Authors include
Williams, EW
Williams, WF
Williams, WH
Williams, WE (This one has a separate work that is also not clean.)

5norabelle414
Aug 21, 2019, 9:02 am

It could be this bug: https://www.librarything.com/topic/305973
but as others have stated, it might sort itself out after a few days.

6konallis
Aug 21, 2019, 9:28 am

>5 norabelle414: Thanks, that definitely sounds similar.

7konallis
Aug 21, 2019, 9:30 am

>4 MarthaJeanne: Yes, it looks like there are some bad existing combinations that are now going to be hard to disentangle. (Including, probably, copies of the same book I have - I'd be surprised if I had the only one.)

8konallis
Edited: Aug 21, 2019, 12:58 pm

Not related to the bug per se, but I've done some cleaning up of the combined editions in https://www.librarything.com/work/121178/ (at least for those that have ISBNs).

9konallis
Edited: Aug 23, 2019, 6:27 am

To clarify the original bug:
If I open the book from the Recently Added section on my home page, I get what should be the correct work: https://www.librarything.com/work/23607336/book/172397007 (shown as owned by 0 members)

If I open the book from my profile page, I get the other work: https://www.librarything.com/work/121178/172397007

10konallis
Aug 23, 2019, 12:19 pm

The data has updated now. Links to the book on my home page and profile page now go to the same work - https://www.librarything.com/work/121178/book/172397007 - and I'm listed among the members who owns it. So now just a combining issue.

11konallis
Sep 17, 2019, 7:59 am

There's still a problem here. I separated out my copy from https://www.librarything.com/work/121178/, but the links from my library still go to the incorrect work (and again, I'm not listed as one of the members who has it).

The separation was done a few weeks ago, so not a case of waiting for the database to catch up.

12AnnieMod
Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 4:07 am

Are you sure you separated your copy? Because it still shows up in https://www.librarything.com/work/121178

Where do you think that the copy is now?

PS: and after a little bit of a push, your name is on the list so your copy is definitely still inside this work. So all the links point to it - as they should.

So let's try that again - can you identify your copy and pull it out?

13konallis
Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 4:56 am

>12 AnnieMod: Thanks. I'd previously tried separating my copy twice, but the system didn't complete the separation correctly.

I've tried again and it looks like it worked for now: https://www.librarything.com/work/23715863/

Ed: No, it's gone again.

I changed the title of my copy so I could identify it in the editions list for separation. After I separated and recombined, I changed the title back - my copy data promptly disappeared from the work page, and the links from my library reverted to https://www.librarything.com/work/121178.

14AnnieMod
Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 5:10 am

Pull it out and leave it out (and give us a link to it) so we can try to see what is going on, please. No way to help if no one can see what is going on.

https://www.librarything.com/work/23715863/ Is the copy, right. Your last sentences did confuse me on where you left it. :)

One thing to keep in mind eventually is that books jump works with exact matches (in some bizarre conditions - I usually had this issues with full works and volumes) - you may need to leave a differentiator so it stays in place. So it is possible that you stumbled on that but without seeing the copy out, it is a bit hard to figure it out.

Will try a few things and post more tomorrow if no one else jumps in - it is late here. :)