that fine line that separates Queery and M/M Romance...A cocky li'l group

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that fine line that separates Queery and M/M Romance...A cocky li'l group

1Dave_v2
Mar 15, 2020, 8:18 pm

Personally, I don't see a fine line I see a wide gray area. I think that's more my lack of understanding than anything else.

2aspirit
Mar 15, 2020, 10:22 pm

Here's a comparison of the group descriptions for this discussion.

Queery

The idea behind Queery is simple: this is a group for discussing, promoting and recommending LGBT+ books (or books with LGBT+ characters) from all time periods and parts of the world. The focus here is on books that are actually authored by LGBT+ people, or that contain complex, well-written LGBT+ characters (regardless of how the author identifies).

Note:

There are plenty of places to discuss M/M romance written by and for straight/cis women. This isn't one of them. Same goes for 'teachable moment' YA novels. When posting, please focus on books by and for the LGBT+ community.


M/M Romance... A cocky li'l group
For all who love men...
For all who love Love...
For all...
This group is for you.

Come and discuss your favorite M/M Romance books, authors, wishes and wants!


There is a large gray area and not a definite line between GLBT+ and M/M Romance. I think the difference between the groups was in expectations.

M/M Romance is a (sub)genre. It's known for having a high proportion of cisgender, heterosexual women as writers and readers. The main characters are always at least two men, males, or masculine creatures involved in a romance. There's a selection of common tropes and limitations on the storylines.

Trying to have a conversation in M/M Romance about, say, two nonbinary main characters in a non-Romance book has a long history of going terribly (anywhere online). Talk about queer authors who write for queer audiences often ruffles feathers in M/M Romance groups, too. I've seen Romance groups outside of LT make a distinction between M/M and Gay Lit to reduce some misunderstandings.

To be blunt, I think Queery was mainly created as a space for conversations where "But it's for straight women!" would be an inappropriate comment. The problem is that LT overall isn't the most comfortable site for LGBT+ book discussions. People might be leery of Queery.

What about in M/M Romance... A cocky li'l group? What can we expect in responses to "Do the author's preferred pronouns matter when reading erotica?" or to any of your threads, Dave_v2? Anything?

That group is also quiet. I'll pop over there to give you company.

3Dave_v2
Mar 15, 2020, 10:46 pm

Thanks for the explanation/clarification :) that was helpful.

For now I'll maintain membership in both groups, but my thinking is that I'll gravitate to the M/M group.

4originalslicey
Jul 20, 2020, 7:33 pm

When I see the phrase "M/M Romance" I read that as erotica. My assumption is that the M/M group is more for gay male romance stories that would normally be found in the erotica section of the bookstore.

Queery is for any LGBTQ+ stories from any genre, which could also include M/M romance, but I'm guessing with less emphasis on erotica.

That's my two cents, but when I see anyone describing something with M/M, F/F, M/M/F, etc... I'm assuming the book includes graphic sex scenes and isn't just about romance or relationships or other genre sub-categories. For instance, I read a lot of Young Adult queer fiction and I would never describe them as "M/M."