2Crypto-Willobie
Ground meat and gravy over rice, like my mother used to make.
Well, one of my favorites.
Well, one of my favorites.
3Tess_W
>2 Crypto-Willobie: My grandmother made that only we ate it over mashed potatoes. Yum!
4TempleCat
All food comes spiced with memories! My not-so-fond one - hominy. It tasted okay, but my stomach would immediately reject it, violently. My mom thought I was just being persnickety and would try to hide it in mashed potatoes or something, but my subsequent mad dashes to the bathroom eventually taught her otherwise.
My fond memory was of my absolute favorite dessert. It was time-consuming to make, so it rarely appeared as I was growing up, but yum! Then, many years after I had forgotten all about it, I was in Paris for the first time, eating at a fancy restaurant, and a bit miffed that there weren’t any English translations for all the menu items; the wait staff were no help, either. On the dessert menu there was something with the word “œufs” in it (œufs á la neige), which I recognized as one of the ten or so words of French that I knew, so I ordered it, whatever it was. I was enraptured, totally blown away, when my childhood favorite snow pudding appeared, huge, floating in a sea of custard sauce, three times the helping my mom ever served me! I was in heaven.
My fond memory was of my absolute favorite dessert. It was time-consuming to make, so it rarely appeared as I was growing up, but yum! Then, many years after I had forgotten all about it, I was in Paris for the first time, eating at a fancy restaurant, and a bit miffed that there weren’t any English translations for all the menu items; the wait staff were no help, either. On the dessert menu there was something with the word “œufs” in it (œufs á la neige), which I recognized as one of the ten or so words of French that I knew, so I ordered it, whatever it was. I was enraptured, totally blown away, when my childhood favorite snow pudding appeared, huge, floating in a sea of custard sauce, three times the helping my mom ever served me! I was in heaven.
5Hope_H
My mom's ham casserole.
I love it. I also equate it with "home." One year I was in the hospital right after Christmas for a scheduled surgery on my leg. Mom and Dad came up to see me, and they told me they had had ham casserole for lunch. I burst into tears. When I got to go home a week later, Mom made it for me again.
A not-so-fond memory: lima beans. Or milk. I don't like either one. I used to have to sit at the supper table until I finished them. I did figure out that if I just sat there until everyone had left the room, I could very quietly get up and pour the milk down the sink or put the lima beans back in the bowl.
I love it. I also equate it with "home." One year I was in the hospital right after Christmas for a scheduled surgery on my leg. Mom and Dad came up to see me, and they told me they had had ham casserole for lunch. I burst into tears. When I got to go home a week later, Mom made it for me again.
A not-so-fond memory: lima beans. Or milk. I don't like either one. I used to have to sit at the supper table until I finished them. I did figure out that if I just sat there until everyone had left the room, I could very quietly get up and pour the milk down the sink or put the lima beans back in the bowl.
6Taphophile13
>5 Hope_H: Totally agree about the lima beans. I still get the shakes just thinking about them. My stomach would threaten to send them right back. Peas had the same effect. Why do parents think that forcing a child to eat something is doing them any good? Dad usually kept on eye on me so I couldn't get rid of them easily. At least I did manage to sneak some peas to my dog.
As for good memories, that would be chilled sliced tomatoes sprinkled with sugar. I was always happy when the meal included pickled beets or warm corn bread. And my mother's homemade cakes and pies.
As for good memories, that would be chilled sliced tomatoes sprinkled with sugar. I was always happy when the meal included pickled beets or warm corn bread. And my mother's homemade cakes and pies.
8Hope_H
>7 lilithcat: Gladly! I'll take those any day!
9John5918
Bacon and onion pudding. A very tasty steamed pudding made from suet and flour with a bit of bacon and onion mixed in. In those post-war austerity days it was a way of feeding a family cheaply (suet and flour) with the minimum amount of pricier stuff (bacon). I got the recipe from my mum before she died and I cook it occasionally. Maybe twenty years ago I even found it on the food menu in a pub, the Moletrap near Ongar in Essex, but it doesn't appear to be common these days.
>7 lilithcat:
I'll definitely take the cauliflower and broccoli - they'd go nicely with the bacon and onion pudding!
>7 lilithcat:
I'll definitely take the cauliflower and broccoli - they'd go nicely with the bacon and onion pudding!
10Tess_W
My mother was not an inspired cook, so it was mostly just meat and potatoes. I did not like hominy. My mother told me that I would not eat chili, either; but I have no recollection of this and today I love chili. I like corn, polenta, and cornbread, today, but still a no-go on the hominy!
11Taphophile13
>7 lilithcat: Oh, yes please.
13guido47
My background is "Latvian" and I loved Piragi, A yeast dough dumpling with usually a bacon/onion/etc baked filling.
When Mum died 40+ years ago I tried to replicate them. I failed. I asked the elder Latvian Ladies for advice but was told that this was secret women's business :-)
Yeah Google. I made a reasonable copy.
The smell takes me back 60+ years...
When Mum died 40+ years ago I tried to replicate them. I failed. I asked the elder Latvian Ladies for advice but was told that this was secret women's business :-)
Yeah Google. I made a reasonable copy.
The smell takes me back 60+ years...
142wonderY
>13 guido47: Most of my growing up community was Polish, so pierogi with mashed potato and onion filling was served at most parties. Ooh! Yum! Weddings especially were so much fun; because the old men would polka with all the little ones.
15WholeHouseLibrary
Thanksgiving at my parent's house between the ages of 9 and 25 (more or less.) This was before their generation retired and moved to different areas in Florida, and before/during the time the older siblings and cousins began to scatter all over the country perusing college degrees and full-time employment.
During those years, we averaged 70 family members gathering at my parent's house. Not catered. How we accomplished this every year is a very long and involved story. Great meals, and the family football games made the Kennedy's games seem like local pick-up games.
During those years, we averaged 70 family members gathering at my parent's house. Not catered. How we accomplished this every year is a very long and involved story. Great meals, and the family football games made the Kennedy's games seem like local pick-up games.
16mlfhlibrarian
>5 Hope_H: oh dear, milk. I’ve always hated it.
Back in the day, British kids in primary school were given a small bottle of milk to drink at break time. The bottles would be in a crate left outside the classroom. By break time the milk would be lukewarm and disgusting. I used to try to get one of the boys to drink mine, but frequently got found out by the teacher and made to drink it. On one memorable occasion I threw up over her shoes! Eventually my mum complained and I was given permission not to have it.
Some years later Margaret Thatcher was Education minister and she put an end to the free milk (long after my primary school days had ended), which earned her the nickname Maggie Thatcher Milk Snatcher :)
Back in the day, British kids in primary school were given a small bottle of milk to drink at break time. The bottles would be in a crate left outside the classroom. By break time the milk would be lukewarm and disgusting. I used to try to get one of the boys to drink mine, but frequently got found out by the teacher and made to drink it. On one memorable occasion I threw up over her shoes! Eventually my mum complained and I was given permission not to have it.
Some years later Margaret Thatcher was Education minister and she put an end to the free milk (long after my primary school days had ended), which earned her the nickname Maggie Thatcher Milk Snatcher :)
17terriks
My favorite food memory is my mom's beef stew. She made it in an old pressure cooker. I still see that odd dial thingy attached to the pot lid, and watching it shake and rattle under pressure while the stew cooked.
She'd unplug the thing, grab bowls for my brother, sister and me, and fill them up with steaming hot stew.
>10 Tess_W: I can't say my mom was an inspired cook, either. We ate a lot of meat and sides. When I make my own stew these days, I often wonder if hers was actually any good. She lost that pressure cooker in a move, and couldn't be bothered to replace it at the time. She's now 94 and really only enjoys making pies and small loaves like pumpkin these days.
She'd unplug the thing, grab bowls for my brother, sister and me, and fill them up with steaming hot stew.
>10 Tess_W: I can't say my mom was an inspired cook, either. We ate a lot of meat and sides. When I make my own stew these days, I often wonder if hers was actually any good. She lost that pressure cooker in a move, and couldn't be bothered to replace it at the time. She's now 94 and really only enjoys making pies and small loaves like pumpkin these days.
18John5918
>16 mlfhlibrarian:
Ah, the free school milk. I used to like it in the winter when it was nice and cold and fresh, but in the summer it was warm, slightly off, and pretty disgusting, as you say.
But I still love milk, especially when it's fresh from the cow. I've spent a lot of my life living amongst cattle-keeping communities in Africa, and fresh milk is easily available. I also learned to drink the lumpy curdled milk which is a common way of preserving milk in rural communities where there is no refrigeration available. One of my best milk memories was when I got dysentery deep in the South Sudanese bush, from drinking unboiled swamp water, and I was given a traditional local cure, a huge bowl of milk which was still warm and frothy from the cow. It was delicious, and it apparently worked as the dysentery stopped. We hope to get a cow of our own within the next couple of years so we'll have our own fresh milk.
Ah, the free school milk. I used to like it in the winter when it was nice and cold and fresh, but in the summer it was warm, slightly off, and pretty disgusting, as you say.
But I still love milk, especially when it's fresh from the cow. I've spent a lot of my life living amongst cattle-keeping communities in Africa, and fresh milk is easily available. I also learned to drink the lumpy curdled milk which is a common way of preserving milk in rural communities where there is no refrigeration available. One of my best milk memories was when I got dysentery deep in the South Sudanese bush, from drinking unboiled swamp water, and I was given a traditional local cure, a huge bowl of milk which was still warm and frothy from the cow. It was delicious, and it apparently worked as the dysentery stopped. We hope to get a cow of our own within the next couple of years so we'll have our own fresh milk.
19Penske
>2 Crypto-Willobie: That was my mother’s specialty! I thought she invented it!
20Crypto-Willobie
>19 Penske: Send me some, please!
And it was a thinnish gravy with the ground meat right in it, not a thick heavy gravy like Thanksgiving gravy for mashed potatoes. Her father was from Canada -- maybe that's the secret...
And it was a thinnish gravy with the ground meat right in it, not a thick heavy gravy like Thanksgiving gravy for mashed potatoes. Her father was from Canada -- maybe that's the secret...
21perennialreader
Cornbread dressing at Thanksgiving. My mother and my husband's mother both made the best. I can't seem to make it the way they did. Also, my mother's banana pudding. I can make it but can't eat it anymore.
Worst food memory is having to eat turnip greens when I was a kid. My parents thought that if they forced me to eat them, I would soon learn to love them. Nope, nope, nope. I will not go near them now. I will not eat them here nor there, I will not eat them anywhere.
Worst food memory is having to eat turnip greens when I was a kid. My parents thought that if they forced me to eat them, I would soon learn to love them. Nope, nope, nope. I will not go near them now. I will not eat them here nor there, I will not eat them anywhere.
22mlfhlibrarian
I’ve been racking my brains to think of food I particularly liked - I was a very picky eater and my mum was rubbish at cooking.
But Ive just remembered marzipan! Celebratory cakes when I was a child were always fruit cakes topped with royal icing, with a layer of marzipan between the icing and cake. Most kids disliked it, so if I went to a Christmas or birthday party I would ask everyone for their marzipan, which they were more than happy to hand over :)
Ditto coffee creams, whenever any member of my family had a box of chocolates I got the coffee creams because everyone else hated them.
But Ive just remembered marzipan! Celebratory cakes when I was a child were always fruit cakes topped with royal icing, with a layer of marzipan between the icing and cake. Most kids disliked it, so if I went to a Christmas or birthday party I would ask everyone for their marzipan, which they were more than happy to hand over :)
Ditto coffee creams, whenever any member of my family had a box of chocolates I got the coffee creams because everyone else hated them.
23sarahemmm
I loved 'cooking' with my mother. At around the age of 8 or 9, I was allowed to make my own supper: oeufs mollets aux fines herbes. Soft boil an egg, peel it carefully and fry it gently in some butter with chopped herbs. I cooked my first Sunday lunch when I was 12, but I don't recall exactly what it was. Certainly some type of roast, with at least two veg and potatoes, followed by a pudding of pie and custard.
24Penske
>20 Crypto-Willobie: Exactly! A very thin gravy!
25Tess_W
My grandmother made homemade noodles every Thanksgiving and Christmas. I have tried to replicate, but not quite as good. I can remember some "appalling" conditions, that today, I would cringe at, but then I was too young to understand: she "hung" her noodles over everywhere to dry--the counters, the kitchen cabinet doors, etc. She had flypaper hanging from the ceiling of the kitchen and right above the table!
26lilithcat
My mother was what one might call a "good, plain cook". Dinner was always meat, veg, starch. Because we were a family of five, roasts were often on the menu. She made the best leg of lamb and veal breast, simple but so flavorful. (The vegetables, on the other hand, tended to be frozen or canned, definitely uninspiring.)
She also had some excellent desserts in her repertoire. Her apple pie had a wonderfully flaky crust, thanks, I expect, to the Crisco® she used. Then there was the chocolate ice box cake - alternating layers of ladyfingers and chocolate mousse, covered with whipped cream.
She also had some excellent desserts in her repertoire. Her apple pie had a wonderfully flaky crust, thanks, I expect, to the Crisco® she used. Then there was the chocolate ice box cake - alternating layers of ladyfingers and chocolate mousse, covered with whipped cream.
272wonderY
I’ve been able to re-visit two key food memories this summer.
I found a tray of tomato plants this spring that promised “yellow pear” shaped fruit. My dad grew these one year. They tasted best plucked warm from the sun. Yep. Still do.
And my neighbor brought me a bowl of little plums. It’s his neighbor’s tree and he gets to harvest what hangs over the fence. Yes! My neighbor had just such a tree too. Only we climbed the tree to reach the fruit. And these are not the plump thin-skinned fruit you can buy in the grocery store. These are slim purple fruit with a slightly thicker skin; and they feel just right on the teeth and have just the right firm texture. Sweet, but not too sweet. Sigh!
I found a tray of tomato plants this spring that promised “yellow pear” shaped fruit. My dad grew these one year. They tasted best plucked warm from the sun. Yep. Still do.
And my neighbor brought me a bowl of little plums. It’s his neighbor’s tree and he gets to harvest what hangs over the fence. Yes! My neighbor had just such a tree too. Only we climbed the tree to reach the fruit. And these are not the plump thin-skinned fruit you can buy in the grocery store. These are slim purple fruit with a slightly thicker skin; and they feel just right on the teeth and have just the right firm texture. Sweet, but not too sweet. Sigh!
28alco261
Brussel Sprouts - EEEEYuckkkkkk. When I was drafted and going through basic training the drill instructor lined us up one morning and went down the rows and yelled the same question in everyone's face. "What do you think it would take to break you?" In reality, no one really knows what that might be but since we had to shout an answer right back people were coming up with all of the usual tortures - lighted bamboo splinters under the fingernails, burning brands, etc. When he got to me I shouted, "Sergeant, all the Chinese would have to do is threaten to force feed me Brussel Sprouts and I would tell them anything the wanted to know!"
The platoon fell apart laughing. The sergeant was none too pleased. I had to drop and do 100 pushups. It was worth it. :-)
The platoon fell apart laughing. The sergeant was none too pleased. I had to drop and do 100 pushups. It was worth it. :-)
29John5918
>28 alco261:
Oh dear, I love brussel sprouts, one of my favourite foods as part of a traditional English Sunday roast lunch, and a non-negotiable aspect of Christmas to accompany the turkey, ham and stuffing! Unfortunately they're very difficult to obtain here in Kenya.
Oh dear, I love brussel sprouts, one of my favourite foods as part of a traditional English Sunday roast lunch, and a non-negotiable aspect of Christmas to accompany the turkey, ham and stuffing! Unfortunately they're very difficult to obtain here in Kenya.
30Crypto-Willobie
Brussel sprouts me too...
312wonderY
Some things have improved over the decades. Beets, for example. The only beet I ate (reluctantly) as a child was dumped from a commercial can and warmed in a pan.* So I never inflicted them on my children. They learned as adults to slice fresh beets and roast them. Oooooh!
And I am informed that Brussels sprouts have been selected for improved taste. But I haven’t ventured there.
*Lack of proper education perhaps. Much like the Chung King chop suey we ate too.
And I am informed that Brussels sprouts have been selected for improved taste. But I haven’t ventured there.
*Lack of proper education perhaps. Much like the Chung King chop suey we ate too.
32Tess_W
>28 alco261: too funny!
33Tess_W
>31 2wonderY: Cut the brussels in half, drizzle with olive oil, garlic, and roast at a really high heat--about 400-425 until they just start to caramelize and yum---my favorite veg, btw. I fix asparagus the same way. If I have a piece of bacon (I have to hide bacon at my house, bundle it up tighter than Ft. Knox) I will crumble that and sprinkle on top.
34jldarden
When I was 18 or 19 on a trip to Hawaii, at a restaurant called Nimbles (no longer there) I had their stuffed New York steak. A nice cut with a pocket sliced in the middle stuffed with shredded crab and baby shrimp. One of the best thing I have EVER eaten!
35alco261
>33 Tess_W: Hmmmm....that sounds an awful lot like the recipe line from the old folk song Logger Lover...
" I had a logger lover
There's none like him today
If you poured whiskey on it
He'd eat a bale of hay..." :-)
" I had a logger lover
There's none like him today
If you poured whiskey on it
He'd eat a bale of hay..." :-)
36John5918
>35 alco261:
Thanks for that reminder about an old song which I had completely forgotten!
I see that you're a logger, and not just a common bum,
For nobody but a logger stirs his coffee with his thumb.
Thanks for that reminder about an old song which I had completely forgotten!
I see that you're a logger, and not just a common bum,
For nobody but a logger stirs his coffee with his thumb.
37Tess_W
>35 alco261: LOL
38Tess_W
I'm not really a picky eater, but 2 things I no longer eat: oats and kale. My Dr. said no no no! And he doesn't believe animals should be fed them, either. He gave me a handout on both, but I can't find it! I don't eat oats because they are not diet friendly (for me) and I don't like the taste of kale, so it's a win-win for me!
39John5918
Kale is a staple diet here in Kenya, widely eaten, and accessible to the poor, so we eat it regularly. We also grow it, although at the moment our kale plants are rather dormant due to the drought. I'm surprised at your doctor's advice, as from what I've seen kale is generally reckoned to be pretty healthy. My own doctor recently told me to eat more leafy green vegetables.
40librorumamans
Early in my teens, an independent ice cream shop opened — this was in the early '60s — in a town on our route home from the cottage, and often we would stop and treat ourselves.
Our two dogs quickly established that they had a constitutional right to the bottom two inches of each cone and whatever ice cream had made its way down there. They also equally quickly learned the meaning of the phrase "ice cream cone" to the extent that when I or my sister raised the question of stopping for ice cream, the dogs immediately woke up and became very excited, whining and jumping around. If my parents decided we didn't have time, or the place was too busy when we got there, they didn't settle down for miles.
"Ice cream cone " became an unmentionable in the car.
So the discussion became, "Can we stop for unmentionable objects?"
"No, not today. We're running late."
And the dogs slept peacefully on.
Our two dogs quickly established that they had a constitutional right to the bottom two inches of each cone and whatever ice cream had made its way down there. They also equally quickly learned the meaning of the phrase "ice cream cone" to the extent that when I or my sister raised the question of stopping for ice cream, the dogs immediately woke up and became very excited, whining and jumping around. If my parents decided we didn't have time, or the place was too busy when we got there, they didn't settle down for miles.
"Ice cream cone " became an unmentionable in the car.
So the discussion became, "Can we stop for unmentionable objects?"
"No, not today. We're running late."
And the dogs slept peacefully on.
41Tess_W
>39 John5918: Dr did say eat spinach, greens, etc., just not kale!
42CarolynBurke7
>4 TempleCat: I also have a fond memory for this dessert. My mother called it "Floating Island," but I think it is the same thing!
43EGBERTINA
>33 Tess_W: Do as Tess suggests but also sprinkle with fresh marjoram/rosemary. I use butter more often, but not the high heat.
44EGBERTINA
My fondest memory is one that has been lost after my mother had dementia.
KOUREMPECHES!!
Mom made them mostly at Christmas because it took several days. They are a Greek cookie, similar to, but better than another Greek Cookie named something like Kourembiedes. You have to hand-chop the almonds to keep the nut oil in tact; then you clarify the butter. we never bought bagged almonds. Our job as children, was to crack the nuts by hand, which we very much could not wait to do. flour just a smidge of sugar, because it is the baked almonds that make them exquisite. form into crescents and sift powdered sugar on top after they come out of the oven. they absolutely melt in your mouth. no artificial almond flavour. similar to the mexican wedding cakes, but much lighter and finer. until the recipe became lost, i used to make them, too. my children all want the recipe.
KOUREMPECHES!!
Mom made them mostly at Christmas because it took several days. They are a Greek cookie, similar to, but better than another Greek Cookie named something like Kourembiedes. You have to hand-chop the almonds to keep the nut oil in tact; then you clarify the butter. we never bought bagged almonds. Our job as children, was to crack the nuts by hand, which we very much could not wait to do. flour just a smidge of sugar, because it is the baked almonds that make them exquisite. form into crescents and sift powdered sugar on top after they come out of the oven. they absolutely melt in your mouth. no artificial almond flavour. similar to the mexican wedding cakes, but much lighter and finer. until the recipe became lost, i used to make them, too. my children all want the recipe.
45TempleCat
>42 CarolynBurke7: Yes, I gather Floating Islands is nearly identical to Snow Pudding. With the former, the meringue is spooned into a bowl of custard sauce; in the latter, the custard sauce is spooned over a bowl of meringue (snow). Tomato, tomahto.
There are many variations (vanilla sauce enhanced with lemon, orange, raspberry, strawberry, caramel; egg whites and sugar folded with gelatin, etc.), but this is an quite old-fashioned dish, found in the original Fanny Farmer cookbook, in early Joy of Cooking cookbooks and in the recipe boxes of grandmas from Norway, Sweden, Ireland, France and Australia. I even found it in my venerable Larousse Gastronomique! Everybody, it seems, loves this dessert, understandably. 🥰
There are many variations (vanilla sauce enhanced with lemon, orange, raspberry, strawberry, caramel; egg whites and sugar folded with gelatin, etc.), but this is an quite old-fashioned dish, found in the original Fanny Farmer cookbook, in early Joy of Cooking cookbooks and in the recipe boxes of grandmas from Norway, Sweden, Ireland, France and Australia. I even found it in my venerable Larousse Gastronomique! Everybody, it seems, loves this dessert, understandably. 🥰
46John5918
I first came across Iles Flottantes in Geneva thirty years ago, ironically in a floating restaurant. Delicious.
47CarolynBurke7
>21 perennialreader: Here are the keys to making great cornbread dressing. Make sure it is good and soupy when you put it in the oven. This calls for lots of chicken broth. When you reach the point that you are worried you might have overdone it and made it too soupy, that means it is just right. This gives it the perfect texture and keeps it from drying out. Also, my family makes it with cornbread crumbs and biscuit crumbs. You can use a cornbread mix, but it should be the southern white cornbread, not sweet.
Buy the Hungry Jack biscuits, the ones with layers of flakes. Bake them in the oven and then split them in half and return to a very slow oven, 200 degrees. Take them out when they are completely dry and crunchy. They should break in two with a loud crunch.
Buy the Hungry Jack biscuits, the ones with layers of flakes. Bake them in the oven and then split them in half and return to a very slow oven, 200 degrees. Take them out when they are completely dry and crunchy. They should break in two with a loud crunch.
48mnleona
We always had cornbread dressing with our turkey but I married a Minnesotan and they like bread dressing. My mother added sausage so I add sausage to the bread dressing. I was raised in Texas and now live in Minnesota.
49Tess_W
>48 mnleona: I will only eat bread dressing (made with 1/2 sourdough and 1/2 brown bread) with onions, butter, turkey or chicken broth, and sage. My hubby likes oyster dressing so I make a ramekin of oyster stuffing just for him.
50Tess_W
School cafeteria food: hamburger gravy over mashed potatoes. My mother did not fix this dish, so it was a "treat" for me!
51John5918
Hm. Primary school dinners were definitely not one of my favourite food memories. Generally they were pretty disgusting. They were cooked in a big central kitchen somewhere in the borough, and then brought by van in metal urns and reheated in the school kitchen. Meat was generally grey and gristly, and mashed potatoes were also grey and lumpy. Vegetables were of course overcooked until they were tasteless and textureless in true British culinary fashion. Gravy was often congealed. Desserts were usually stodgy puddings with custard that was either congealed and lumpy or else too thin and watery. For some reason it was often weird colours rather than yellow - perhaps it was supposed to be different flavours, but one couldn't tell as it had virtually no flavour anyway.
We did get free milk at school, a small 1/3 pint bottle at morning break each day, until Mrs Thatcher stopped it (after my time). It was great in the winter, but during the summer it could be a bit off after standing in the sun all morning.
As for hamburgers, I don't think I even knew they existed until I was a teenager and could occasionally visit the local Wimpy. Thinking back they were probably beefburgers, not hamburgers, but I remember them as being fairly dry and tasteless. It's still a bit of a culture shock for me when I go to the USA to find Americans treating burgers as a favoured gourmet dish rather than the somewhat tasteless fast convenience food which we viewed them as.
We did get free milk at school, a small 1/3 pint bottle at morning break each day, until Mrs Thatcher stopped it (after my time). It was great in the winter, but during the summer it could be a bit off after standing in the sun all morning.
As for hamburgers, I don't think I even knew they existed until I was a teenager and could occasionally visit the local Wimpy. Thinking back they were probably beefburgers, not hamburgers, but I remember them as being fairly dry and tasteless. It's still a bit of a culture shock for me when I go to the USA to find Americans treating burgers as a favoured gourmet dish rather than the somewhat tasteless fast convenience food which we viewed them as.
52haydninvienna
>51 John5918: School milk. Oh dear. We had school milk, in 1/3 pint bottles, left out in the Queensland sun. Thank you for that memory.
ETA the memory is of the smell. As a child I Would. Not. Drink. Milk, so my mother wrote to the school to get me exempted from drinking the stuff.
ETA the memory is of the smell. As a child I Would. Not. Drink. Milk, so my mother wrote to the school to get me exempted from drinking the stuff.
53librorumamans
>51 John5918:, >52 haydninvienna:
Largely similar memories from Canada, including the occasionally off milk after Games period. We called it mystery meat in the stews. Did either of you?
Largely similar memories from Canada, including the occasionally off milk after Games period. We called it mystery meat in the stews. Did either of you?
54John5918
>53 librorumamans:
No, we weren't that imaginative! But one of the stodgy puddings was known as worm pudding because it had a few thin strings of jam in it which definitely looked like green worms, as greengage jam seemed to be the preferred choice of the education department.
No, we weren't that imaginative! But one of the stodgy puddings was known as worm pudding because it had a few thin strings of jam in it which definitely looked like green worms, as greengage jam seemed to be the preferred choice of the education department.
55librorumamans
Ah, yes. "Blood" pudding: a plop of white goop that in a state of delirium might be called blancmange with a teaspoon of strawberry jam on top.
56Tess_W
I graduated in 1973 from a small midwestern rural school district. The food wasn't "bad." We had homemade soups, etc. My only "complaint," which I didn't know how to voice then, was that the fruits and vegetables for the most part were canned and they added no seasoning. But the main dishes and often "dessert" (cookies, cake, etc.) were homemade. Here is a sample menu, though not mine, very similar. My lunches cost 25 cents.
57John5918
>56 Tess_W:
That certainly looks like a gourmet menu compared to ours! But I think the key word there is "homemade". As I said, ours were anything but homemade, all cooked in a central kitchen and then brought to school in big metal urns for reheating. I remember there was a period when I (and many others) used to take sandwiches to school rather than face the institutional slop. Sandwich fillings included jam, boiled egg chopped up with butter, and sometimes just sugar on buttered bread - whatever was available and affordable in that era of austerity. I was in primary school from 1959, but school dinners improved greatly when I went on to grammar (high) school in 1966, where food was cooked on site in the school kitchen. I can't remember what the cost was, but many children received free school dinners.
Incidentally in class-ridden Britain of that era lunch was called "dinner" by all but the upper classes.
That certainly looks like a gourmet menu compared to ours! But I think the key word there is "homemade". As I said, ours were anything but homemade, all cooked in a central kitchen and then brought to school in big metal urns for reheating. I remember there was a period when I (and many others) used to take sandwiches to school rather than face the institutional slop. Sandwich fillings included jam, boiled egg chopped up with butter, and sometimes just sugar on buttered bread - whatever was available and affordable in that era of austerity. I was in primary school from 1959, but school dinners improved greatly when I went on to grammar (high) school in 1966, where food was cooked on site in the school kitchen. I can't remember what the cost was, but many children received free school dinners.
Incidentally in class-ridden Britain of that era lunch was called "dinner" by all but the upper classes.
58Tess_W
>57 John5918: As to lunch/dinner........the noon meal at home was called dinner and the evening meal was called supper. Even my family (lower middle class) changed to lunch/dinner sometime in the 70's. Supper is still used a lot, especially here in the midwest.
59Hope_H
As a 58-year "veteran" of school lunches (13 as an elementary and secondary student, 4 as an undergrad if that counts, and 41 years as a teacher) I've eaten a LOT of school food. Unlike some of you, our milk was always cold, but even as a kindergartener, I hated milk. In 2nd grade, I finally convinced my mom to not buy the afternoon milk for me.
My favorite meal, through the years, was our school's little smokies (sausages) with homemade cinnamon rolls for dessert.
There was a period several years ago where we had chicken at least twice a week. To their credit, the lunch staff tried lots of different ways to prepare it. The staff used to joke that the kids were going to cluck their way across the stage at graduation.
My favorite meal, through the years, was our school's little smokies (sausages) with homemade cinnamon rolls for dessert.
There was a period several years ago where we had chicken at least twice a week. To their credit, the lunch staff tried lots of different ways to prepare it. The staff used to joke that the kids were going to cluck their way across the stage at graduation.
60Hope_H
>58 Tess_W: I'm also a Midwesterner, and the noon meal was always dinner with the evening meal being supper. I think that was a rural midwestern thing and made for a learning curve when I went off to college and my roommate wanted to meet for dinner.
62PLivingstone
In Ireland, as a young man - I had helped a lady with her garden. Mid-day, She offered a meal.
Inside her cottage, as she made tea, I offered to pour the milk into the cups. Upon opening the door, her refrigerator, I saw, was almost bare ... We sat on the dry stone wall ... and had tea with two thick slices of home-baked wheaten bread, with a wedge of cheese.
After saying farewell, I went into town ... milk, local bread and eggs, biscuits, tinned fruit, and chocolate - I bought two large bags of groceries, left them on her doorstep, and knocked loudly on the door ... waved to her while driving away. It was the Best Meal I have ever had because This Woman thought me important enough to share with me, what she did not have to spare. 23 midwintermonað, 2024 - Livingstone
Inside her cottage, as she made tea, I offered to pour the milk into the cups. Upon opening the door, her refrigerator, I saw, was almost bare ... We sat on the dry stone wall ... and had tea with two thick slices of home-baked wheaten bread, with a wedge of cheese.
After saying farewell, I went into town ... milk, local bread and eggs, biscuits, tinned fruit, and chocolate - I bought two large bags of groceries, left them on her doorstep, and knocked loudly on the door ... waved to her while driving away. It was the Best Meal I have ever had because This Woman thought me important enough to share with me, what she did not have to spare. 23 midwintermonað, 2024 - Livingstone
64MsMixte
My mother was a horrible cook. I have no fond memories of delicious food, only memories that some food items weren't as bad as others. An English Christmas stalwart is Yorkshire pudding, which as it was almost impossible to make poorly, is one of the few items I enjoyed!
My mother went back to college when I was around 14 years old, and as a consequence (being the oldest girl) I got stuck with the parenting of the other five siblings, which meant that I did all the cooking for a family of eight (and the laundry AND hanging the clothes on the line AND ironing the washed clothes AND hoovering the house AND....etc.)
My mother had a habit of clipping recipes from such American stalwarts as Ladies Home Journal and Good Housekeeping magazines. Two particularly nauseating recipes were one which involved pouring pea soup over bits of lamb and calling it 'lamb ragoût', and another which required 'cooking sherry' poured over inedible meatballs. I can't remember what that one was supposed to be imitating.
Additionally, my mother, needing to feed numerous children, purchased the cheapest items possible. This practice meant that, unknown to me at the time, almost everything which was based on prepared items such as Hamburger Helper was chock full of monosodium glutamate. Never mind that I had constant migraines from the stuff, I was told that I was lazy and a hypochondriac.
I am a decent cook left to my own devices, but I really don't like cooking. Fortunately for me, my spouse enjoys cooking and so the monosodium glutamate is eliminated from the recipes, making my life much more pleasant!
My mother went back to college when I was around 14 years old, and as a consequence (being the oldest girl) I got stuck with the parenting of the other five siblings, which meant that I did all the cooking for a family of eight (and the laundry AND hanging the clothes on the line AND ironing the washed clothes AND hoovering the house AND....etc.)
My mother had a habit of clipping recipes from such American stalwarts as Ladies Home Journal and Good Housekeeping magazines. Two particularly nauseating recipes were one which involved pouring pea soup over bits of lamb and calling it 'lamb ragoût', and another which required 'cooking sherry' poured over inedible meatballs. I can't remember what that one was supposed to be imitating.
Additionally, my mother, needing to feed numerous children, purchased the cheapest items possible. This practice meant that, unknown to me at the time, almost everything which was based on prepared items such as Hamburger Helper was chock full of monosodium glutamate. Never mind that I had constant migraines from the stuff, I was told that I was lazy and a hypochondriac.
I am a decent cook left to my own devices, but I really don't like cooking. Fortunately for me, my spouse enjoys cooking and so the monosodium glutamate is eliminated from the recipes, making my life much more pleasant!
652wonderY
Daughter went to a lot of trouble today making merengue cookies in preparation for a fancy fruit compote dish. We call her Grace because she has an unfortunate trait and spilled the tray from out of the oven. Half stayed on the tray and the rest were scooped back up within the 5 second limit … except for the one Toby the dog got away with. The children were happy to eat the ones that hit the floor.
66mnleona
>64 MsMixte: I still clip recipes and have no idea why. I am alone and my kids are grown.
>65 2wonderY: That is too bad but she tried.
My husband was Scandinavian and we still have the Swedish meat balls and ribs.I make the bar-b-q sauce from my mother-in-law's recipe.
>65 2wonderY: That is too bad but she tried.
My husband was Scandinavian and we still have the Swedish meat balls and ribs.I make the bar-b-q sauce from my mother-in-law's recipe.
67Hope_H
Well, this isn't my favorite memory, but it is one that made my parents laugh.
Growing up, I HATED liver and onions. I still do.
One summer day, my younger brother and I had been out walking beans (sort of like weeding the half- mile long rows of soybeans.) We'd been out since 5:00 a.m. and came back in at 1:00 p.m. - and we were starving. Mom set plates down in front of us without a word, and we wolfed down the food. We even asked for seconds. That's when we found out we'd had liver. The horrors!
Growing up, I HATED liver and onions. I still do.
One summer day, my younger brother and I had been out walking beans (sort of like weeding the half- mile long rows of soybeans.) We'd been out since 5:00 a.m. and came back in at 1:00 p.m. - and we were starving. Mom set plates down in front of us without a word, and we wolfed down the food. We even asked for seconds. That's when we found out we'd had liver. The horrors!
68mnleona
My husband did not like liver but I did. I was feeding the kids when they were little and he came home from work (he worked nights sometimes) and made a comment. Kids never would eat liver again. I would order it at a local restaurant.
69Taphophile13
I remember having liver only once. It was terrible. My brother was late to dinner and my parents told me not to tell him what it was. He came in, started to eat and did not like it. He asked me several times what it was and I simply muttered "Meat." I prefer my onions plain, thank you.
70John5918
>67 Hope_H:, >68 mnleona:, >69 Taphophile13:
I love liver, and indeed most offal. We slaughtered one of our goats last month, and it's only recently that I took the heart, liver and kidneys out of the freezer and fried them. We used to eat a lot of baked heart when I was a child, and of course tripe (stomach) was a popular dish. Both Sudan and Kenya have a really nice stew made from assorted offal, including the stomach and intestines, although they have to have been properly cleaned, otherwise there is a strong smell. In Sudan they also have a delicacy for special occasions made from chopped up raw offal (including lungs). It has an interesting texture, but the taste comes mainly from the onion, lemon and chilli which is mixed with it. Here in Kenya they make blood pudding, wrapped in the intestines. My sisters-in-law were here when we slaughtered the goat, and they made some for us. It's very much like British black pudding (ecky thump!) but coarser and more crumbly. I was visiting the north west of England a few months ago and we ate in a local cafe where they served thick slices of black pudding with bacon in a bun with gravy on top. Delicious!
I love liver, and indeed most offal. We slaughtered one of our goats last month, and it's only recently that I took the heart, liver and kidneys out of the freezer and fried them. We used to eat a lot of baked heart when I was a child, and of course tripe (stomach) was a popular dish. Both Sudan and Kenya have a really nice stew made from assorted offal, including the stomach and intestines, although they have to have been properly cleaned, otherwise there is a strong smell. In Sudan they also have a delicacy for special occasions made from chopped up raw offal (including lungs). It has an interesting texture, but the taste comes mainly from the onion, lemon and chilli which is mixed with it. Here in Kenya they make blood pudding, wrapped in the intestines. My sisters-in-law were here when we slaughtered the goat, and they made some for us. It's very much like British black pudding (ecky thump!) but coarser and more crumbly. I was visiting the north west of England a few months ago and we ate in a local cafe where they served thick slices of black pudding with bacon in a bun with gravy on top. Delicious!
71librorumamans
Yummy dishes my mother made in my childhood:
As a grad student on a slim budget, I also cooked beef heart, which was pretty decent, as I recall.
These days, though, I only occasionally eat chicken or fish.
- stewed diced kidneys in gravy (no idea of the recipe)
- braised lamb kidneys
- braised chicken livers
- giblet gravy
- calves liver
- beef tongue cooked under pressure with bay leaves; and, after we visited St Pierre et Miquelon, the same sliced and stewed with tomatoes, red wine, and basil
- a regular Sunday breakfast of creamed sweetbreads and toast. In those days, many butchers would give away sweetbreads. Imagine!
As a grad student on a slim budget, I also cooked beef heart, which was pretty decent, as I recall.
These days, though, I only occasionally eat chicken or fish.
72kageeh
On Sundays, the only day my father wasn't at work until late night, he cooked what was called a shell steak, basically a large, somewhat rectangular hunk of prime meat. He had a definite ritual a ritual as he carefully trimmed the fat, salted, peppered, and spiced the meat, and then seared it until the outside was charred and crispy. Then he broiled it for some secret amount of time. He brought it to the table and cut it into maybe one-quarter-inch thin slices. The middle just missed being blue as the colors moved outward to the crispy edges. My mouth still waters.
73Hope_H
>70 John5918: I think some of what I didn't like as a child might have been due to the preparation, as I find as an adult, I like some of the "yucky" dishes from my youth. As a kid, I did not like pizza. In college, I learned to love pizza, and it is now its own food group!
Your mention of blood pudding and tripe make me laugh. One Christmas dinner, an elderly relative was speaking fondly - and graphically - of slaughtering day on the farm when she grew up, and how she loved blood pudding and tripe. I thought my older brother was going to pass out from her vivid descriptions! The only reason I didn't get queasy over it was because I was too busy laughing at him!
Your mention of blood pudding and tripe make me laugh. One Christmas dinner, an elderly relative was speaking fondly - and graphically - of slaughtering day on the farm when she grew up, and how she loved blood pudding and tripe. I thought my older brother was going to pass out from her vivid descriptions! The only reason I didn't get queasy over it was because I was too busy laughing at him!

