Christianity v. Apache ceremonies

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Christianity v. Apache ceremonies

1Cynfelyn
Jun 24, 2024, 10:41 am

They took part in Apache ceremonies. Their schools expelled them for satanic activities (Guardian, today).

This is a school on a reservation. What is the school doing there if it can't accept traditional practices? What is the education authority doing allowing such a school access to their children?

And if it's "USA" rather than "Apache Nation", how come religion is being mixed up in access to public services? Or do native Americans not get the full protection of the US constitution?

Or does it only look remarkable to outsiders?

2lilithcat
Jun 24, 2024, 11:32 am

>1 Cynfelyn:

how come religion is being mixed up in access to public services?

1. It’s not a public school; it’s a private school.

2. Not only is it a private school, it is a Lutheran school.

3Watry
Jun 24, 2024, 11:32 am

>1 Cynfelyn: If it's a Lutheran school, it's not a public school and therefore not required to follow public school rules about religion, sex, race, etc. Private schools are allowed to do pretty much whatever they want regarding which students they take and keep.

The school is there specifically because they don't like the traditional practices. The article discusses the Christianizing boarding schools, but missionaries haven't exactly gone away.

4paradoxosalpha
Jun 24, 2024, 11:42 am

So terrible. The article is clear that the school is run by the Wisconsin Synod Lutheran Church (a "conservative," i.e. reactionary, denomination), not the state. The tribe probably had no say in the matter of the evangelical Christian school being placed there in 1951, and I'm inferring that it is now the most convenient affordable education option for most kids in that part of the reservation.

Unfortunately, our activist right-wing Supreme Court has been eroding the separation of church and state with the sorely misbegotten Kennedy v. Bremerton decision in 2022. That case (bad on the facts, bad on the law) was used to abolish the lemon test formerly used by the courts to avoid church-state entanglements. As a direct result, the state of Louisiana just enacted a law requiring the posting of "The Ten Commandments" (i.e. a Protestant version of the Decalogue of Moses) in all state school classrooms from kindergarten through college.

5paradoxosalpha
Edited: Nov 14, 2024, 11:07 pm

Update on the Louisiana Decalogue debacle:
https://youtu.be/9FmGpYoS9jU