Great gothic horror novels that transcend the genre

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Great gothic horror novels that transcend the genre

1tros
Edited: Sep 26, 2024, 6:13 pm

Melmoth the Wanderer and Werewolf of Paris have elements of social criticism that elevate them of above most horror novels. Melmoth is a muckraking novel that explores religious persecution in the name of "God". Werewolf of Paris shows that horror is an STD!

2absurdeist
Sep 26, 2024, 6:27 pm

Hmmm. Certainly, as well, the novel—a chapter of which—this very group was founded by a user formerly known as "Ben Waugh"—Chateau d'Argol by Julien Gracq.

3Randy_Hierodule
Sep 26, 2024, 7:59 pm

>2 absurdeist: "Oh, Whistle, and I'll Come to You, My Lad". Yes and it was Himself, Mr. Tros, who brought Gracq and his novel to my attention - Jaysus, nearly 20 years ago... So he is under the cornerstone of the group name. Still a great favorite which I need to re-read, again.

4Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Sep 26, 2024, 9:34 pm

>1 tros: I need to get around to the Endore novel (buried in boxes with much of all else these days). Another, sitting on the shelf in front of me, The House of the Vampire. A psychological horror novel by one of our earlier (albeit imported) fascists who wrote popular books.

5tros
Edited: Sep 26, 2024, 9:47 pm

>4 Randy_Hierodule: Endore is worth the effort, definitely an under-rated classic! Viereck is a familiar name but haven't read anything. gracias! not sure I want to be "under the cornerstone", is that a Poe story? :-0 just kidding, amigo, gracias!

6Randy_Hierodule
Sep 26, 2024, 9:58 pm

I seem to recall a description of the windows of the chapel suggesting a one-way quality, designed for someone outside to be looking in - as on an impenetrable hermetic phenomenon (And the abyss? The interior? An interzone of static distress, or minatory abyssal depths, beyond the reach of light?). Like the book the author wanted to write. Will dig it out again this Fall. I am still hopeful someone will publish a translation of Gracq's Le Roi Pecheur.

7Randy_Hierodule
Sep 26, 2024, 10:05 pm

>5 tros: Ha! I don't blame you. The edifice stands on the site of the blood-sown sacrifice. I was thinking, when I tapped that out, of Peter Ackroyd's Hawksmoor and his church - speaking of gothic, and worth a read.

8Randy_Hierodule
Sep 27, 2024, 7:21 pm

Here is a a discussion of the architect N. Hawksmoor, imbedding a review (?) of Ackroyd's novel:

https://www.architectural-review.com/essays/reputations/nicholas-hawksmoor-c1661...

9Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Sep 29, 2024, 12:11 pm

Shawn Garrett has announced a new translation: Albert Ehrenstein, The Death Knight: Expressionist Stories: 1900-1919.

10Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Sep 30, 2024, 3:57 pm

>1 tros: Incarnation is the ne plus ultra of STDs (that # 2 of the Big 3 should bleed sweat gob disseminate fart and shit... the horror! Self-loathing is the beginning of religion if not wisdom, mebbe): The pedagogy of Beckett's Malone Dies(?), and the Christian/philosophical tradition of the west: "I turned his mind towards that most fruitful of dispositions, horror of the body and its functions." And speaking of the godlings and persecution: Villier's cruel tale, A Torture by Hope is an exquisite gothic treat.

12paradoxosalpha
Sep 30, 2024, 7:33 pm

>11 tros:

There's an old discussion of "A Torture by Hope" here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/147687

I also enjoyed Isis by the same author.

13Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Sep 30, 2024, 7:59 pm

>12 paradoxosalpha: Thank you, sir. I need to dig that out as well. I also recommend as many might have elsewhere herein and otherwhere's: his Axel.

14tros
Edited: Sep 30, 2024, 8:38 pm

>12 paradoxosalpha: oh no, two more titles to track down! thanks

15Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Sep 30, 2024, 10:30 pm

And right in the old Nick o' time, courtesy of Shawn Garrett, our pal, Brother Theodore:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IgHi3b4zA&t=7s

16tros
Oct 1, 2024, 12:15 am

>15 Randy_Hierodule: life is a fatal disease! amen!

17Randy_Hierodule
Edited: Oct 1, 2024, 2:56 pm

I used to enjoy Brother Theodore's appearances on Letterman in the 80s. He always had a tongue-in-cheek riff of some Nietzsche aphorism (I recall something on the order of, "he who would dance must first lose both his legs"). I still have an anthology or two bearing his name (and, I believe, his prefaces).

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