Pipes in CK in brackets after non-English letters

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Pipes in CK in brackets after non-English letters

1Cynfelyn
Oct 7, 2024, 5:02 am

Adding some CK to Ildar Dadin, including his 'nom de guerre' in the Other names field, the Cyrillic version in brackets decided to display with "pipes" after each letter: "Gandhi (Г | а | н | д | и | | nom de guerre)".

The same sort of thing happened yesterday with Michel Blanc (1), where a stray pipe inserted itself into "Tenue de Soirée" in CK / Awards and honors after the accented "é": "Tenue de Soiré | e".

I guess the pipes are being added after each non-English letter. This is in Firefox, in (I think) the English version of the 'big language change'.

2Felagund
Oct 7, 2024, 11:50 pm

I'm seeing this for https://www.librarything.com/author/blancmichel-1 , on Firefox, Google Chrome and Safari (in English and in French).

3kristilabrie
Oct 9, 2024, 10:54 am

>2 Felagund: Verified, looking at the "Awards and honors" CK field for "Tenue de Soirée", there's a pipe added after the "é". (It shows up fine on the Award page: https://www.librarything.com/award/3441.0.0.1986/Cannes-Film-Festival-Award-1986...

4Nevov
Oct 12, 2024, 8:32 pm

5conceptDawg
Oct 15, 2024, 1:29 pm

Still looking at this.

6Cynfelyn
Oct 20, 2024, 4:27 am

I don't know if this is related, but I've just added a published review to Karla's choice, the new posthumous John le Carré tribute novel, changing the 'smart' inverted commas of the original online article for simple inverted commas, and lo and behold, each of them are now proceeded by a slash.

The only inverted comma without a slash is the very last one of the review, which I missed, and which you can see is an angled smart inverted comma.

7knerd.knitter
Oct 21, 2024, 8:03 am

>6 Cynfelyn: That is not related to this, but it is another issue. I have fixed it.

8Llyfryddwr
Nov 13, 2024, 8:31 am

This bug is still happening, including with the degree (°) symbol that I've just added to New Scientist, 28 February 2009.

9MrKusabi
Dec 20, 2024, 11:23 am

Has there been any update on this? I'm still noticing this on Japanese books I've been adding to my collection.

10kristilabrie
Dec 20, 2024, 11:27 am

>9 MrKusabi: Not yet, I'm afraid, but please poke at this after the holidays so we can keep it on our radar! Thanks for your patience in the meantime.

11kristilabrie
Jan 6, 2025, 9:48 am

Another instance of this bug reported at https://www.librarything.com/topic/367396

12Cynfelyn
Jan 20, 2025, 2:28 pm

Um. This bug, or something similar, seems to be doing something new.

Adding "Edward Fryer (1761-1826, M.D., at Göttingen)" to Factotum, no. 18, March 1984, the pipe bug is displaying it as "(1761-1826, M.D., at Gö | IMDb)" rather than "Gö | ttingen" as expected.

I've never understood why History, under the Value column, records the contents of brackets twice, but interestingly, this time, it records this as "Edward Fryer (1761-1826, M.D., at Göttingen) (1761-1826, M.D., at Gö | IMDb)".

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PS. Humour me. I've just learned something new. According to Wikipedia, what British English (BE) speakers call 'brackets', US English (AE) speakers call 'parentheses', reserving 'brackets' for what BE speakers call 'square brackets'. I (a BE speaker) had always assumed 'parenthesis' was just the journal of the Fine Press Book Association and an inkhorn term used by bores and typographers.

13waltzmn
Jan 20, 2025, 3:38 pm

>12 Cynfelyn: PS. Humour me. I've just learned something new. According to Wikipedia, what British English (BE) speakers call 'brackets', US English (AE) speakers call 'parentheses', reserving 'brackets' for what BE speakers call 'square brackets'. I (a BE speaker) had always assumed 'parenthesis' was just the journal of the Fine Press Book Association and an inkhorn term used by bores and typographers.

FWIW, it's not that simple. At least among the people I know. (American Midwest, and likely to be mathematicians.) Yes, I use "parentheses" for the pair ( ). But the other one -- the one that LibraryThing uses to denote book and author names -- is "square brackets." Always, at least on first use. "Brackets," by itself, means nothing, although one might use the term after one has used "square brackets." So, for instance, one might say, "To define the closed interval between one and two, inclusive, one uses square brackets; the brackets denote the limits of the interval, and those limits are included. If one wishes to exclude the limits, use parentheses. So (1,2) includes all numbers between one and two but not one and two themselves."

14jjwilson61
Jan 20, 2025, 4:37 pm

Me too. One needs to distinguish them from angle brackets and the curly ones

15kristilabrie
Edited: Jan 21, 2025, 10:30 am

>12 Cynfelyn: Wow, ok, good find. That's not a bug per se but a quirk of the diacritics in CK adding pipes, and then having a string starting with "tt" right after.

I tested this out by entering fake data with a diacritic followed by a "tt" string ("àttinger"), and was able to reproduce a link to IMDb:



If you enter a "tt" string after a pipe, it's assumed to be a link to IMDb. (See @conceptDawg's introduction of this feature here, back in 2009: https://www.librarything.com/topic/78127#1628013.) That's not a bug, but the pipe coming in after a diacritic—and then causing the IMDb link for strings starting with "tt"—is.

16Cynfelyn
Jan 21, 2025, 2:22 pm

>15 kristilabrie: Thanks for the explanation. So, nothing to complicate the solution of the bug. Good to know.

17MrKusabi
Feb 7, 2025, 8:19 am

Just poking this one again to see if there's been any progress on this bug.

18kristilabrie
Feb 10, 2025, 9:42 am

>17 MrKusabi: We're pretty tied up on our recent work page changes, so this one will have to wait a bit longer I'm afraid. Thanks for your patience in the meantime!

19MrKusabi
Feb 11, 2025, 9:22 am

>18 kristilabrie: Completely understandable! The new work pages are quite nice.

20conceptDawg
May 2, 2025, 5:57 pm

Bumping for myself.