Singular vs. Plural Holidays

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Singular vs. Plural Holidays

1blakelylaw
Apr 5, 2025, 5:45 pm

Is it properly "Mother's Day" or "Mothers' Day?" "Father's Day" vs. Fathers' Day" "Veteran's Day" vs. "Veterans' Day"

Of course, a lot of web sites and signs don't bother at all with the apostrophe.

I find myself vacillating between the singular and the plural. Clearly, in a Hallmark store display, I believe it should be "Mothers' Day," and, frankly, I tend to think of the phrase as properly being plural because the day is for all mothers.

I have always been curious about other people's thoughts; then it dawned on me that this was the perfect place for posting my quandary!

2lilithcat
Apr 5, 2025, 6:07 pm

>1 blakelylaw:

According to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, it's "Veterans Day" - no apostrophe.

3thorold
Apr 5, 2025, 7:27 pm

The Church of England used to call it “Mothering Sunday”, neatly sidestepping the question.

The proper curmudgeonly response would probably be that none of these calendar entries has any traditional standing at all; they were all invented for commercial reasons by greeting card companies or florists. So true pedants are free to ignore them.

4blakelylaw
Apr 6, 2025, 3:24 am

>3 thorold: You're absolutely correct about the greeting card companies and florists, and I am all for being a proper curmudgeon. Nonetheless, I shudder at the thought of any of us trying to explain to our mother that this is the reason for ignoring the day. LOL! For that matter, had the day been ignored for that, or any other reason, by my son or husband - let's just say life would have been very difficult in the house for a few days.

5MarthaJeanne
Apr 6, 2025, 4:55 am

Please don't try to take me out to eat on Mothers Day when all the restaurants are full of people who ignore their mothers at least 350 days of the year. And I would value a call now and again on a different day because a son wanted to talk to me than one of these Happy Mothers Day calls with nothing to say.

6RaiyanBrown
Edited: Apr 21, 2025, 4:14 am

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7reading_fox
Apr 9, 2025, 4:36 am

Mothering Sunday is somewhat different than the others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday

Originally it was to visit your 'mother church' where you'd been baptised. This became a day which servants were given off, nominally to do so with their families. So if you're shortening it to Mother's Day, it is possessive singular and takes the apostrophe.

8abbottthomas
Apr 9, 2025, 1:18 pm

>7 reading_fox: A true pedant!

9GraceCollection
Apr 9, 2025, 6:27 pm

If you have multiple mothers, there's no reason to worry, as it will always be 'Mothers' Day' for you.

10blakelylaw
Apr 12, 2025, 3:02 pm

>9 GraceCollection: Excellent point in this era of blended families!

11Buchmerkur
May 4, 2025, 7:03 am

>6 RaiyanBrown: This seems to me to be a reasonable distinction.

12Buchmerkur
May 4, 2025, 7:05 am

>7 reading_fox: fascinating detail from historical context

13blakelylaw
Edited: Jun 6, 2025, 9:58 pm

>11 Buchmerkur: Too bad that we no longer know the nature of that distinction.

14Buchmerkur
May 6, 2025, 1:25 pm

Tom Hodgkinson somewhere in How to be idle writes about Christmas customs and wassailing as a form of having holiday, friends and family and what in German is Güterumverteilung (redistribution of goods) all in one. ;-) . As an annual custom it is better than a revolution any time, I'd say