Combining Author potential glitch

I noticed this morning that when i combined an author that may have more than just one work associated with the name, I get a page with a whale flailing around saying it will take some time, but they never resolve. Anyone else seen this before...in all my years doing this, it is a new one that I have not encountered before. Thanks in advance!

Thanks. Probably a side effect of something I'm doing. I'll check into it.

>2 timspalding:

Perhaps it's related. When I search for an author's name and try to combine two entries, there's a display bug.

Stéphan Bonneau
https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneaustphan

Combine with "Stéphan Bonneau" or "Stephan Bonneau"

search

https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=St%C3%A9phan+Bonneau&searchty...

combine (2nd line: Stephan Bonneau (1) — combine with Stéphan Bonneau? (combine))

Result:
https://www.librarything.com/authors_merge.php?id=6a0e14ed4fa9e

see msg 4 below

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Stephan Bonneau :
https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneausteacutephan
1 work

https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneaustphan
4 works

problem with acccent and i can't combine

And you can add :
https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneaustephan
0 work

>2 timspalding:

Updated
;-)

Complement

I add this book :
https://www.librarything.com/work/11595610/314244569

I remembered i had 1 other book from this author, so i searched in my library, looked for orthogarph and some others datas and tried to combine

several problem among which 4 + 1 different books and different resultats if you click here or therr (see 1, 2 orr 3)
https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneaustphan
https://www.librarything.com/author/bonneausteacutephan

I had this last night, and it's happening again this morning.

Example:

Go to https://www.librarything.com/a/15049148/Hon-Sir-John-William-Fortescue-K-C-V-O

Type J W Fortescue into the Search box under "Combine with author"

Select the top J W Fortescue from the list (https://www.librarything.com/a/36857)

Spend eternity watching a whale.

I too had never seen it before last night.

Author pages are being worked on/updated, so there's likely to be bugs to report, s well as temporary weird behavior.

Notice that their web addresses changed, including getting a numerical value like workpages, so once done I expect they will work much better overall

>7 SandraArdnas:

GREAT JOB with author autority identity...

I am convinced that we can do (on LBT) as well as, or even better than, Isni, VIAF, Loc, BND, and DBE....***

bon courage / Good luck

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*** I can't remember which official national database lists the source for each authority and biographical entry. I think it's a Scandinavian government database.

When you click on a piece of data or a field (date of birth, place of death, education, career, distinctions, etc.), the link takes you to an official primary source... it's a bit like Wikidata, except this is an official national database.

I haven't saved the information or the website (bouhhh), but if anyone finds it, please send me the link.

i noticed this morning I am still seeing the flopping whale :) so something is still glitching

>9 pjlambert:

Be quiet,
The work required to standardize, clarify, and ensure the reliability of the authority file (including authors) must be absolutely enormous.

We can certainly wait a while, given the 20 years between the launch of LBTh and 2026.
If the result allows for clear differentiation of authors and gives them a unique identifier, it will be a very, very positive point.

Then it will be up to the contributors to do what's necessary to clean up the database.

Come on, let's be the first to support the teams... There will be tens of millions of authority records to secure (and more than the LoC, DNB, Viaf, Isni, BNF...).... Let's wish them good luck. Let's wish ourselves good luck.

And for information, databases with numbers and numbers of very clean individuals do exist (Example : the dead and combatants of the First World War in Mémoire des Hommes), better than WKDT...
https://www.memoiredeshommes.defense.gouv.fr/conflits-operations/premiere-guerre...

>10 JMK2020: Be quiet??? I was just merely pointing out that the issue continues...I didn't realize there was some other effort underway behind the scenes...If posting glitches is verboten during this timeframe, just let me know. Perhaps, be patient, might have been more appropriate than telling me to be quiet???

>11 pjlambert:

Sorry, It's not be quiet, be cool ;-) and yes be patient
Excuse me Please

>12 JMK2020: Ha! No problem...all good

I'm working on author issues today.

Members may have noticed all author URLs changed last night. Big changes afoot!

That's not a whale. That's an orca!
We have a fail orca!

That's not a moon...it's a space station.

>15 davidgn:
>14 timspalding:
>16 al.vick:
Courage :-)

Meville, Hemingway and Verne for the Moon or/and Pink Floyd too fo the dark side.. and Vador for the stars... blablabla... :-)

If we're going for silly uses of "fail orca," the moment I saw that phrase, I was reminded of "falorie," from an Irish folksong, which (according to Sean O Boyle) is derived from "forlorn" and denotes mystery.

The song (thought to date from the 1870s) begins

I am the wee falorie man
A rattling, roving Irishman
And I will do whatever I can
For I am the wee falorie man.

Pronounced in the correct accent, "fail orca" comes out pretty much as "falorie" (fay-LOO-ree), so
I am the wee fail orca man,
A reading, writing, coding man
My searches fail whenever they can
For I am the wee fail orca man.

Probably you have to know the tune. :-) Or maybe better that you not know it. :-)

The Pictures, Links, Helper hub, etc, have all disappeared from the right-hand side of author pages. Clicking on "helper hub" at left does bring them back, but only for that page and only temporarily. Presumably part of the same bug.

>19 DuncanHill:
Certainly due to the major maneuvers on the authors base

or :

>19 DuncanHill:, >20 JMK2020:

I figured that if they've taken that part down, they're actively working on it, and I can wait until they're done. There are few emergencies in LT author info over there. :)

>21 karenb: "we shouldn't report bugs because they will already know about them"

How do you know they've taken that down deliberately, and it isn't an unintended and un-noticed consequence of something else? If we were to take your attitude we really should just delete this group and tell everyone not to report any bugs.

I never said it was an emergency, I was just trying to make sure LT staff (not you) were up to date on the issues affecting author pages.

>18 waltzmn: Probably you have to know the tune. :-) Or maybe better that you not know it. :-)

The decision is hereby left to the reader as an exercise:
https://youtu.be/qxgnLUolo00?si=74z8keOy3PAntw3f

>23 LeslieWx:

I definitely didn't learn it with the Irish Washerwoman trying to squeeze her way in. :-) I honestly can't remember where I learned it (David Hammond?), but this Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem recording is pretty close -- possibly the source for whoever I learned it from, if it wasn't Hammond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRsecTwzBHo

I suspect it's a Belfast song by origin, though, not one from what is now the Republic of Ireland. There are a lot of Belfast collections.

>22 DuncanHill: I was referring to the "workaround," not the reporting.

Reporting is good.

>14 timspalding: Do I sense aliasing of split authors in the air? And maybe an editions layer?

Trying to combine 2 authors seami and zeami (seami is an older transliteration). I have the flying whale and nothing seems to be happening...

>27 Maddz: see 17

This certainly due to hard work on author database (with numeric code autority author rather than several othographic "code" for 1 author)

Wait and see ;-)

>28 JMK2020: Nearly 24 hours later... I think it must have swum round the world twice.

The Earth is spinning too fast and the anchor is caught somewhere
;-)

I have seen the right-hand stuff (Pictures, Links, Helper Hub, & Helpers) again for authors with huge work-counts, such as Edith Wharton and Françoise Sagan. There is progress!

While combining is possible now (yay!), I am still seeing this glitch sometimes.

https://www.librarything.com/authors_merge.php?id=6a18b1338a796

after trying to combine
https://www.librarything.com/a/276011 (Dan Coxon) &
https://www.librarything.com/a/31258169/Dan-Coxon-editor

ETA: and, since yesterday,
https://www.librarything.com/authors_merge.php?id=6a16759e5fda4

after trying to combine
https://www.librarything.com/a/5614994 (I think) &
https://www.librarything.com/a/23586386

A whole bunch of changes drop tomorrow. Don't try to force the system until then.

Seems to be fixed, yay. Thanks!

ETA: New process presents a different whale page briefly. When the process is done, we get a link to the (combined) author page. (I presume this is the way it's supposed to happen.)

>34 karenb: Yes - working for me too as you describe.