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1timspalding
Does anyone know how to get reliable information on the total copies of a book printed, or sold?
Obviously it's not available for most books, but if I knew 20 books—of different types—then I could calculate the percent that made it to LibraryThing. (For some academic titles, I wonder if we're not sometime even 1% of the total, although I'd bet—on average—we were more like 0.01%.)
Obviously it's not available for most books, but if I knew 20 books—of different types—then I could calculate the percent that made it to LibraryThing. (For some academic titles, I wonder if we're not sometime even 1% of the total, although I'd bet—on average—we were more like 0.01%.)
2thorold
This doesn't answer your question, but here are two possible candidates for the outliers (although I'm not sure that I trust the LT data in the second case):
IKEA 2008 catalogue: 160 million copies printed, one copy on LT
Gutenberg Bible: 48 extant, 4 copies on LT
ETA: Possibly Nielsen Bookscan might be the real answer, at least for recent publications
IKEA 2008 catalogue: 160 million copies printed, one copy on LT
Gutenberg Bible: 48 extant, 4 copies on LT
ETA: Possibly Nielsen Bookscan might be the real answer, at least for recent publications
3lilithcat
Gutenberg Bible: 48 extant, 4 copies on LT
!!!
Color me stunned.
I would bet a small amount of money that those are facsimiles.
!!!
Color me stunned.
I would bet a small amount of money that those are facsimiles.
5timspalding
I'll bet there's some rough Rowling number out there...
Ah. Wikipedia says more than 400 million (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter)
So, LibraryThing has 0.058% of the copies out there.
Assuming proportionality, LibraryThing can continue to grow for some time. If everyone added their books to LibraryThing, it would have 54,670,715,716 books.
Ah. Wikipedia says more than 400 million (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter)
So, LibraryThing has 0.058% of the copies out there.
Assuming proportionality, LibraryThing can continue to grow for some time. If everyone added their books to LibraryThing, it would have 54,670,715,716 books.
6thorold
I don't think you can assume proportionality. A few examples from the Wikipedia list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books):
Da Vinci Code 57,000,000 24141 0.04235%
The Catcher in the Rye 65,000,000 20667 0.03180%
The Hobbit 100,000,000 24364 0.02436%
The wind in the willows 25,000,000 3638 0.01455%
Le petit prince 80,000,000 9975 0.01247%
The horse whisperer 15,000,000 1065 0.00710%
Heidi 50,000,000 2530 0.00506%
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary 55,000,000 1898 0.00345%
Tale of Peter Rabbit 45,000,000 1537 0.00342%
Book of Mormon 105,000,000 1379 0.00131%
Boy Scout Handbook 40,000,000 400 0.00100%
She 83,000,000 650 0.00078%
Scouting for boys 150,000,000 45 0.00003%
Poems of Mao Tse-tung 400,000,000 27 0.00001%
...which rather suggests, even allowing for the unreliability of the data, that LibraryThing over-represents recent books and those with an interest for US readers. And that Maoism is more prevalent among LibraryThingers than self-assembly furniture. :-)
Da Vinci Code 57,000,000 24141 0.04235%
The Catcher in the Rye 65,000,000 20667 0.03180%
The Hobbit 100,000,000 24364 0.02436%
The wind in the willows 25,000,000 3638 0.01455%
Le petit prince 80,000,000 9975 0.01247%
The horse whisperer 15,000,000 1065 0.00710%
Heidi 50,000,000 2530 0.00506%
Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary 55,000,000 1898 0.00345%
Tale of Peter Rabbit 45,000,000 1537 0.00342%
Book of Mormon 105,000,000 1379 0.00131%
Boy Scout Handbook 40,000,000 400 0.00100%
She 83,000,000 650 0.00078%
Scouting for boys 150,000,000 45 0.00003%
Poems of Mao Tse-tung 400,000,000 27 0.00001%
...which rather suggests, even allowing for the unreliability of the data, that LibraryThing over-represents recent books and those with an interest for US readers. And that Maoism is more prevalent among LibraryThingers than self-assembly furniture. :-)
7lorax
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Well, they certainly aren't genuine.
Some of them may be this work about the Gutenberg Bible, rather than facsimiles, as well.
Well, they certainly aren't genuine.
Some of them may be this work about the Gutenberg Bible, rather than facsimiles, as well.
8andyl
Looking at a SF small press like PS Publishing (which is British) and choosing titles that have not been reprinted elsewhere (or which have electronic downloads, or which have the same title as a short story which might be available elsewhere) it seems that LT has about 1% of the copies catalogued.
Whether that means that LT has greater penetration amongst SF fans or that SF fans are more likely to want to catalogue books I don't know. But obviously I don't think it can be extended to major fiction publishers let alone non-fiction.
Whether that means that LT has greater penetration amongst SF fans or that SF fans are more likely to want to catalogue books I don't know. But obviously I don't think it can be extended to major fiction publishers let alone non-fiction.
9hailelib
Its possible that some small presses may be disproportionally represented.
I went and looked at The Way of the Teacher. I know that about 600 copies have made their way out into the world and there are 7 catalogued on LibraryThing.
I went and looked at The Way of the Teacher. I know that about 600 copies have made their way out into the world and there are 7 catalogued on LibraryThing.

