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1raistlinsshadow
This year, we're going for 25,000 pages—50,000 proved to be a bit steep for me, but 25,000 is slightly more than I read last year but imminently doable. Hopefully this will put a good dent in my To Be Read list...
1. Lost in Translation by Eva Hoffman – 280 pgs.
Total: 280 pgs.
1. Lost in Translation by Eva Hoffman – 280 pgs.
Total: 280 pgs.
3billiejean
Good luck with your reading challenge!
--BJ
--BJ
4bonniebooks
What did you think about Lost in Translation? I really loved the first 2/3's of this book, but got bored with hearing about her adult life.
5raistlinsshadow
BJ: Thanks!
bonniebooks: I didn't think too terribly much of Lost in Translation at all; the language aspect was interesting and there were a couple things here and there that were intriguing (I was hoping for the childhood romance-thing to pull through), but overall, I wasn't that thrilled. Nothing bad, just... forgettable.
bonniebooks: I didn't think too terribly much of Lost in Translation at all; the language aspect was interesting and there were a couple things here and there that were intriguing (I was hoping for the childhood romance-thing to pull through), but overall, I wasn't that thrilled. Nothing bad, just... forgettable.
6bonniebooks
There are times when I just want a good romance, but with good writing, and I'm disappointed when a book goes another direction. I remember that Intuition was billed as romance, and I felt very shortchanged! :-) This year I was going to re-read some favorites, but your comments make me wonder if I'll feel the same way about them. I feel like, sure, there is a consistency to me in terms of my values and beliefs, but I've also changed a lot too--based as much on the direction and content of my reading as my real life experiences. So, will I like these books as much? I'll have to test it out on Lost in Translation then get back to you. :-)
11billiejean
Hi, raistlinsshadow!
What did you think of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? I was planning to buy this on my last book order, but then I had too many books on my list! :) Both my daughter and I want to read this one.
--BJ
What did you think of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? I was planning to buy this on my last book order, but then I had too many books on my list! :) Both my daughter and I want to read this one.
--BJ
12raistlinsshadow
I really enjoyed it—apparently it's really different from the movie Bladerunner, but I'm not able to make a comparison since I've never seen it. I read it for a craft class, and the discussion that it spawned tended to highlight its flaws (clunky writing on a sentence level, fairly poor character building), but they're not so bad as to keep anyone from reading and enjoying the book.
13billiejean
Actually, Bladerunner is a fairly interesting movie. I like to watch it ever so often. Thanks for the info. It is such a great title for a book I think. :)
--BJ
--BJ
14raistlinsshadow
7. The Hanged Man by Francesca Lia Block – 137 pgs.
8. Le Tartuffe: Ou l'Imposteur by Molière – 153 pgs.
Total: 1658 pgs.
8. Le Tartuffe: Ou l'Imposteur by Molière – 153 pgs.
Total: 1658 pgs.
15raistlinsshadow
9. Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk – 218 pgs.
10. The Warded Man by Peter Brett – 431 pgs.
Total: 2307 pgs.
10. The Warded Man by Peter Brett – 431 pgs.
Total: 2307 pgs.
18raistlinsshadow
13. The Bridges of Madison County by Robert James Waller — 171 pgs.
14. Actual Minds, Possible Worlds by Jerome Bruner — 201 pgs.
Total: 2961 pgs.
14. Actual Minds, Possible Worlds by Jerome Bruner — 201 pgs.
Total: 2961 pgs.
19billiejean
What did you think of Actual Minds, Possible Worlds?
--BJ
--BJ
20raistlinsshadow
I thought it was interesting, but the research might be a bit outdated—the edition I read was from 1986. A lot of it was more the philosophy of language and psychology rather than psycholinguistics, which is what I had been hoping for, but it was good nonetheless.
15. Home Land by Sam Lipsyte – 229 pgs.
Total: 3190 pgs.
15. Home Land by Sam Lipsyte – 229 pgs.
Total: 3190 pgs.
27billiejean
So, did you like Watchmen?
--BJ
--BJ
29raistlinsshadow
I really enjoyed it. The style took a bit for me to get used to, both because it was the first graphic novel I've read and because it seemed to be formatted uniquely—"voiceovers" and a storyline that intersected with a fictitious comic and bits of... stuff at the end of each chapter—but I did really enjoy it.
22. The Piano Shop on the Left Bank by Thad Carhart – 281 pgs.
Total: 5584 pgs.
22. The Piano Shop on the Left Bank by Thad Carhart – 281 pgs.
Total: 5584 pgs.
31billiejean
How was The Three Musketeers? I have been wanting to read that one for a while.
--BJ
--BJ
32raistlinsshadow
I loved it—Dumas has a great sense of humor, and the translation that I have seems to be really excellent. It was even better because I read it while in Paris, so there were points where I could sort of... follow them around. Dumas is brilliant. I'd also recommend The Count of Monte Cristo, but it's also a lot longer (A LOT) and more gloomy.
33billiejean
How wonderful to read it while in Paris! I did not realize that The Count of Monte Cristo was so much longer. I think that there is going to be a reading group for that book this summer. I have also been wanting to read that one. Who was your translator? I have my daughter's copy of the book (3 Musketeers) which is the Modern Library copy translated by Jacques le Clerq. Have a great day!
--BJ
--BJ
34raistlinsshadow
I have the Bantam edition, and I don't have it with me to check the translator. But when I get to it, I will check the name for you.
Monte Cristo is around 1600 pages for the usual editions (or, if they prefer, a couple volumes); the Wordsworth edition that I have is around 850 pages with around 2.5 times the normal text per page and teeny-tiny print.
Monte Cristo is around 1600 pages for the usual editions (or, if they prefer, a couple volumes); the Wordsworth edition that I have is around 850 pages with around 2.5 times the normal text per page and teeny-tiny print.
35billiejean
Yeah, that teeny tiny print is killer at my age! :D My copy of War and Peace has that little bitty print and is still so long. But it's a good one! My copy of Count of Monte Cristo is actually my daughter's book. I am not sure exactly where it is, but I think it is one paperback volume. She insists that abridged it not the way to go! :)
--BJ
--BJ
36raistlinsshadow
I'd agree with her—unabridged is the only way!
24. Preludes and Nocturnes by Neil Gaiman – 239 pgs.
25. The Man in the Iron Mask by Alexandre Dumas – 495 pgs.
Total: 6863 pgs.
24. Preludes and Nocturnes by Neil Gaiman – 239 pgs.
25. The Man in the Iron Mask by Alexandre Dumas – 495 pgs.
Total: 6863 pgs.
38raistlinsshadow
27. The Girl With No Shadow by Joanne Harris – 466 pgs.
28. Dream Country by Neil Gaiman – 160 pgs.
Total: 7719 pgs.
28. Dream Country by Neil Gaiman – 160 pgs.
Total: 7719 pgs.
41raistlinsshadow
Never thought my reading would slow down so much in the summer...!
31. Child of the Prophecy by Juliet Marillier – 596 pgs.
Total: 9459 pgs.
31. Child of the Prophecy by Juliet Marillier – 596 pgs.
Total: 9459 pgs.
46bonniebooks
Did you read Generative Phonology for a class? Could you tell me a little bit about it? The title sounds interesting.
47raistlinsshadow
I read it as my own supplementary material for a class—it's essentially 121 pages worth of phonological theory, primarily for English, with a lot about the technical sound markers and points of articulation and rules of phonological transformation. It's pretty dry stuff, but it was nice to get a technical look at what the textbook went over in brief.
36. The Dragon of Despair by Jane Lindskold – 754 pgs.
Total: 12,242 pgs.
36. The Dragon of Despair by Jane Lindskold – 754 pgs.
Total: 12,242 pgs.
50raistlinsshadow
39. Dexter by Design by Jeff Lindsay – 285 pgs.
40. Mental Imagery and Affect in English/French Bilingual Readers and Karen A. Krasny & Mark Sadoski – 29 pgs.
41. Object Categorization in Bilinguals by Panos Athanasopoulos – 10 pgs.
42. Linguistic, Academic, and Cognitive Benefits of French Immersion by Wally Lazaruk – 23 pgs.
43. Lexical-Grammatical Interdependence in Bilinguals by Gabriela Simon-Cereijido & Vera F. Gutiérrez-Clellen – 12 pgs.
44. Chinese-English Biliteracy Acquisition by Min Wang, Chen Yang, & Chenxi Cheng – 23 pgs.
45. Second Language Phonology as Redeployment of L1 Phonological Knowledge by John Archibald – 29 pgs.
Total: 13,136 pgs.
40. Mental Imagery and Affect in English/French Bilingual Readers and Karen A. Krasny & Mark Sadoski – 29 pgs.
41. Object Categorization in Bilinguals by Panos Athanasopoulos – 10 pgs.
42. Linguistic, Academic, and Cognitive Benefits of French Immersion by Wally Lazaruk – 23 pgs.
43. Lexical-Grammatical Interdependence in Bilinguals by Gabriela Simon-Cereijido & Vera F. Gutiérrez-Clellen – 12 pgs.
44. Chinese-English Biliteracy Acquisition by Min Wang, Chen Yang, & Chenxi Cheng – 23 pgs.
45. Second Language Phonology as Redeployment of L1 Phonological Knowledge by John Archibald – 29 pgs.
Total: 13,136 pgs.
51bonniebooks
Would #45 be useful for ESL teachers?
Edited to change book #. Talking about Second Language Phonology... in Message #50.
Edited to change book #. Talking about Second Language Phonology... in Message #50.
52raistlinsshadow
If they can get through the technical writing, then I think it might be. It takes a look at how individual phonemes (and the lack thereof) in certain languages would hamper gaining a native-like accent in another—so it could be good to gain an understanding of exactly why it's certain and specific sounds that the L2 learner can't produce properly and then look for a good curriculum to aid them.

