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1Quicksilver66
Edited: Jul 9, 2010, 9:26 am

I had a bit of an advanced preview in the Members Room yesterday.

The presentation volume is an attractive copy of The Nude by Sir Alan Clarke. Glad to see the Folio Society embracing pornography.

One other volume I saw was a very attractive copy of Rural Rides by William Cobbett, with a cloth binding and leather sides. I also saw the new Josephine Tey volume (referred to in another thread) but I was not enamoured with it.

2ironjaw
Jul 9, 2010, 7:35 am

Ja, Ja, sehr gut, now, where is the secret formula, Hr. Doktor?

3Quicksilver66
Jul 9, 2010, 9:32 am

> 2

I don't understand ??????

4podaniel
Jul 9, 2010, 9:36 am

Quicksilver66, was that slip of the pen and did you mean The Nude by Sir Kenneth Clark? I hope not because I was hoping to hold out this next year for a better offer but won't be able to resist that one.

5Quicksilver66
Jul 9, 2010, 9:39 am

> 4

That's the one. I often confuse father and son. You may not be able to resist - it's a gorgeous oversized volume with a paper cover featuring an oversized....nude (female).

6podaniel
Jul 9, 2010, 10:23 am

Noooooooooooooo!!!! I can't overcome the darkside (or the backside) of the FS force.

7ironjaw
Jul 9, 2010, 10:27 am

I think 6 understood my little joke

8Quicksilver66
Jul 9, 2010, 11:00 am

> 6, 7

I think I see now !

> 6

For the new presentation volume it's certainly the backside you will find difficult to resist.

9boldface
Jul 9, 2010, 12:42 pm

I'd heard it was a tossup between that and a free Trollope.

10P3p3_Pr4ts
Edited: Jul 10, 2010, 6:14 am

The Nude: A study of Ideal Art : it would be a most suitable candidate for a LE durabook edition for (water ) tube reading. In octavo..

11elmaynard
Jul 10, 2010, 10:00 am

I guess I am underwhelmed. It does not seem the sort of book I would particularly want, however maybe it will prove popular with other members.

12Willoyd
Jul 10, 2010, 10:21 am

As I've mentioned on another thread - you are not alone elmaynard. Equally underwhelmed.

13TabbyTom
Jul 10, 2010, 10:36 am

It seems like a very long time since we had a presentation volume related to the visual arts, and “The Nude” in an oversize format will fit nicely alongside Sir Kenneth's “Civilization” which we had round about the turn of the century.

The Cobbett is something I've always wanted to see in a good Folio edition: I hope they've come up with some good early 19th-century landscape paintings or drawings to illustrate it.

I think I may find this year's list very appealing.

14justjim
Jul 10, 2010, 6:53 pm

As a photographer I would be quite interested in The Nude. I doubt very much that any but the most prudish could classify it as pornography. (Anybody who calls any of my art nudes or body sculpture photos porn is looking for a punch in the snoot!) ;)

15boldface
Jul 10, 2010, 8:49 pm

Personally, I would welcome Kenneth Clark's classic work, The Nude (1956), and I've found one or two items which might be of interest to waverers:

Blurb: "From the art of the Greeks to that of Renoir and Moore, this work surveys the ever-changing fashions in what has constituted the ideal nude as a basis of humanist form."

Reviews (1956):

"The simple and often quite beautiful statement of a man of letters . . . in a book which is as much a pleasure to read as it is informative and provocative."--The New York Times

"A feminist critique of a male (and Western) view of the Tantric tradition and also a balanced reassessment of a tradition too long misunderstood."--Parabola

"Probably no one else alive today writes about art with Sir Kenneth's precise combination of intelligence, urbanity, and erudition. . . . This is an important book and a fascinating one, and the illustrations do much to illuminate it."--The New Yorker

See also:
"This is the second in our feature series on classic books about art that have influenced the way we see."
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/artworks/stories/2008/2300009.htm

16Quicksilver66
Jul 11, 2010, 2:44 am

> 15

I am also seriously tempted by The Nude (there is no way to say this without sounding lecherous). But I was really hoping to negotiate for one of the sets on renewal. If I can do this I will hold back on The Nude and pick it up later.

17Quicksilver66
Jul 22, 2010, 9:53 am

Anthony Beevor's Stalingrad is also on the cards.

18HuxleyTheCat
Jul 22, 2010, 10:38 am

As a renewal offer? Hm, now that's more like it.

War and porn: you can tell the new editor in chief is a chap ;-)

19Quicksilver66
Edited: Jul 22, 2010, 10:43 am

> 18

Not as a renewal offer Fiona, but as one of the releases for the new membership year. I think the renewal book will definitely be The Nude.

You can't go wrong with war and porn. Way to go Folio Society !!

20_Chris_
Jul 22, 2010, 11:09 am

17 -- Great book! I bought the hardcover after seeing it frequently mentioned on the sit-com PEEP SHOW. Definitely worthy of the FS treatment.

21HuxleyTheCat
Jul 22, 2010, 4:55 pm

> 19 David, you should come and work for the navy; you'd fit right in!

22Quicksilver66
Jul 22, 2010, 5:22 pm

> 21

Thanks Fiona - is that a compliment or an insult !!

Incidentally another book that has been mentioned to me for the next year is All Quiet on the Western Front (another war book). Perhaps some Henry Miller or Anais Nin is also on the cards !

23HuxleyTheCat
Jul 22, 2010, 6:06 pm

:-) (You don't drink rum do you??)

I'm very pleased to hear about All Quiet on the Western Front, and I hope they give it the treatment it deserves. Easton have got a very nice edition which was on my list to try and buy, but I'll certainly wait and see what the FS edition is like.

24featherwate
Jul 23, 2010, 10:49 am

War and sex certainly works for Taschen, whose glorious output runs the gamut from Stanley Kubrick's Napoleon (£900) to The Big Penis Book (£34.99, or £9.99 if you're happy to let it all hang out as a wall calendar).

25Willoyd
Jul 23, 2010, 3:03 pm

Incidentally another. book that has been mentioned to me for the next year is All Quiet on the Western Front (another war book).
Could just be a reissue?

26olepuppy
Jul 23, 2010, 7:54 pm

>25 Willoyd: I see in Folio 60 that Folio published an edition in 1966 with lithographs by Charles Keeping, one if which is shown in 60, I like it, but I don't know if if the new edition will be a reprint.

27Willoyd
Jul 24, 2010, 7:39 am

>26 olepuppy: That's the edition I've got, which prompted the post. It's nice enough, but not especially inspired - as I find with a lot of the FS books from that period. Mind you, an immaculate copy for the price of a paperback, it was a bargain.

28InVitrio
Jul 25, 2010, 4:55 am

If "The Nude" is the presentation volume, I might have to wait for a different offer. Not least because I will have to open up the box at work, but also because my art tastes are on the more modern side. Not a subject that's particularly compelling for me, and if I change my mind later, presentation volumes are generally not expensive.

29drasvola
Aug 1, 2010, 6:37 am

I had missed this thread completely. The Forum setting in my Home page had been inadvertently changed and was seeing only "Your Posts" tab.

I´ll say that I'm very happy if the presentation volume is indeed The Nude. I have an edition of 1972, and hope that FS will do justice to it.

Since when nude art is pornographic? Perhaps, as with beauty, it is in the eye of the beholder.

30HuxleyTheCat
Edited: Aug 1, 2010, 8:01 am

> 29 drasvola, I'll speak for myself, but I don't think anyone commenting above actually 'does' think it is pornography. I appreciate that humour is often difficult to convey on-line and perhaps in a different language.

As an addenda to the above, I would just like to say how much I appreciate the involvement of everyone who contributes so much to this forum whose first language isn't English. Your use of the language fequently puts my own to shame.

31Quicksilver66
Aug 1, 2010, 7:59 am

I don't see it as pornography. English humour abounds in irony and misstatement.

32drasvola
Edited: Aug 1, 2010, 8:07 am

> 30

Yes. Thank you. I may have had an incorrect impression after reading 28 posts in one go.

33vat1sem
Aug 1, 2010, 8:28 am

There is a lovely English phrase to describe this humour: tongue-in-cheek.

34drasvola
Edited: Aug 1, 2010, 9:16 am

> 30

Back on-line.

I appreciate your addendum, HuxleyThe Cat. Irony and humour are so culturally based that it is very easy to miss the point or the intention. That's why jokes are so difficult to translate.

Let me say, speaking for myself, that I appreciate all the contributions to this forum without exception. I learn a lot from what other members write, and not only when specific literary aspects are discussed.

And I'm not writing tongue-in-cheek...

35N11284
Aug 1, 2010, 11:02 am

>33 vat1sem: Whose tongue in which cheek?

36vat1sem
Aug 1, 2010, 6:38 pm

>35 N11284:

Wouldn't you like to know!

37elmaynard
Aug 2, 2010, 7:02 pm

Does anyone know when the summer sale ends, and also when the renewal is sent out? It seems like it was early August last year, but I don't really remember.

38natashaslove
Aug 4, 2010, 8:46 am

I renewed on August 12 last year, and it seems to me that I renewed about three days after the renewal offer.

39foliomusthave
Aug 4, 2010, 10:26 am

Just popped into the Folio office in my lunch-hour. Staff mentioned that Beevor's Stalingrad will indeed be a new book for next membership year. Also, expect classic smuggling tale Moonfleet by John Meade Falkner. Apologies if this isn't news to anyone. And hello all - I'm a newby to posting - although I've read all your posts with interest for a long time now.

40HuxleyTheCat
Aug 4, 2010, 10:34 am

foliomusthave - if you bring news like that you must post more often!

Moonfleet - awesome!

41Django6924
Aug 4, 2010, 10:35 am

>39 foliomusthave:
Great news! Thank you foliomusthave!

Lord, I haven't read Moonfleet since The Beatles made their first hit record! I wonder if it's worth a reread?

42Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 4, 2010, 11:21 am

Moonfleet - good choice. I remember reading it when I was about 13. I wonder if it will read as well as an adult?

Thanks for posting this news and welcome foliomusthave.

43foliomusthave
Aug 4, 2010, 11:22 am

I should add that you renewal letters (with the list of new books) are to be sent out next week (summer sale ends this week - 6 Aug), with the complete prospectus likely to follow by the end of August. First renewal offer (as others have already flagged) will be The Nude. So I expect that there's going to be a lot to discuss on these pages very soon.

As I'm fortunate enough to work close to the Folio members room, I often pop by to feel the heft of the new books (often sample copies are there very rapidly) and I'll report back on how things are looking if I can.

Last year I asked one of the staff whether the FS was going to publish any more Ian Fleming titles. They said that there were aspirations to do so and that Bond was long-listed. I'm really hoping that this year or next year there will be more Bond books on the way. A 'Best Of' set featured on the suggestions when members were invited to give feedback on what they might purchase. Hopefully there's a few other 007 fans like me out there.

44Quicksilver66
Aug 4, 2010, 11:25 am

> 43

Good news.

I am realy hoping that we will see the Worst Journey in the World. Lots of people want it and it popped up this year on a Folio customer survey for new books.

If not I am going to get the Easton Press edition.

45mboudreau
Aug 6, 2010, 12:01 pm

Just got the FS email with a few more hints about the 2011 books, including The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I wonder if they'll be bringing out all the books at once.

46Quicksilver66
Aug 6, 2010, 12:11 pm

> 45

Interesting. That one has not been hinted before.

47HuxleyTheCat
Aug 6, 2010, 1:01 pm

45 /46 Thinking about the illustrator is quite tantalising!

48EveleenM
Aug 6, 2010, 3:13 pm

I see that some of the Moonfleet illustrations are included in the new website offering framed prints, http://prints.foliosociety.com/index.cfm. I'm not familiar enough with the catalogue from the last few years to tell if any of the other books with illustrations on that site are old or new. If others there are next year's publications, then you've got a sneak preview!

49EveleenM
Edited: Aug 6, 2010, 3:32 pm

Checking the artists' details on the print site gives Jonathan Burton as the illustrator for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, and Bill Bragg for a three-volume Kafka set in 2011 (The Trial, Amerika, The Castle).

Off to check a few more...
Roman Pisarev will be illustrating Rosemary Sutcliff's The Lantern Bearers (2011), and Peter Suart the Master and Margarita. (I can't remember if that had already been published or if it's just on everyone's wishlist).

50EveleenM
Aug 6, 2010, 3:23 pm

This is the gallery of the Moonfleet illustrations. I really like them!
http://prints.foliosociety.com/artist/17793/Michael_Manomivibul/images

51Quicksilver66
Aug 6, 2010, 4:06 pm

> 49 Master and Margarita is, I think, a new title. Perhaps the FS does visit our little community after all ?

52podaniel
Aug 6, 2010, 4:27 pm

Two more books for the upcoming year based on the artists' details for the print site: (1) Debra McFarlane is listed as the illustrator for Dream Days by Kenneth Grahame and (2) Bob Benables is listed as the illustrator for The Violet Fairy Book by Andrew Lang.

53podaniel
Aug 6, 2010, 4:28 pm

Ooops, make that Bob Venables--Bob Benables sounds like a minor Dickens character.

54HuxleyTheCat
Aug 6, 2010, 6:16 pm

Well, the more that I'm seeing of the schedule for the forthcoming year, the more excited I'm getting and the more I'm worrying about the health of my bank balance.

Moonfleet; Hitchhikers Guide; multiple Kafka (yes!); Stalingrad - all absolute must-haves for me.

55spacmann
Aug 6, 2010, 7:04 pm

Do you suppose they will publish the whole Hitchhiker's series or just the first book?

56celtic
Edited: Aug 6, 2010, 7:14 pm

Credit to the FS for publishing The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy. That is definitely a book that falls into the 'Literary Marmite' category (you either love or you hate it).

571dragones
Aug 6, 2010, 7:41 pm

1:> The presentation volume is an attractive copy of The Nude by Sir Alan Clarke. Glad to see the Folio Society embracing pornography.

Not I... If that's the best FS has to offer at this time, I'll have no problem holding out for something different (more in tune with my interests)... and I certainly DO NOT mean something with a dictionary or thesaurus, either.

58elmaynard
Aug 11, 2010, 10:16 pm

Has anyone (maybe one of you who have been recently to the members room) heard when the renewal will be out? Surely we must be getting close.

59elmaynard
Aug 13, 2010, 6:02 pm

Since I am so impatient for the new year to start I sent an e-mail to customer service to find out when they anticipate the web site will have the renewal information. I quickly received a response (they are usually very fast) that it should be up next week some time, so I thought I would pass the information on.

60Quicksilver66
Aug 13, 2010, 6:27 pm

> 59

Exciting news. Thanks elmaynard.

61Hesikos
Aug 17, 2010, 11:39 am

New membership year page up on GB site.

62beatlemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 11:45 am

New year is up on the US site, too!

63Quicksilver66
Aug 17, 2010, 12:04 pm

Count Belisarius.

Now that is very unexpected and very welcome.

There are some great titles here - and a lot more than the ones we predicted.

64drasvola
Aug 17, 2010, 12:07 pm

No The Master and Margarita...

I'm disappointed.

65justjim
Aug 17, 2010, 12:11 pm

Available from Australia as well.

Note that anything you order in the next two weeks doesn't count. Don't get overexcited and click madly.

66drasvola
Aug 17, 2010, 12:17 pm

FS are publishing Waverley. Someone I know will be happy...

67Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 17, 2010, 12:28 pm

The following books are hidden away as well -

Unreliable Memoirs - Clive James
Lord of The Rings
Golem
Hannibal
The Gentleman's Daughter
The Great Plague
Richard III
Five Days in :ondon
Ideas (both sets of two volumes are back)
Reflections on the Revolution in France
Song of Roland

68Pepys
Aug 17, 2010, 12:23 pm

Not bad. But the presentation volumes are not very exciting. (IMHO) I will wait a few months.

69beatlemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 12:55 pm

>66 drasvola:

Haha, I thought the same thing!!!

70jveezer
Aug 17, 2010, 1:17 pm

Interesting they are breaking the book requirement up into two installments. I don't remember them doing that before. Two now and two by two my March 2011...unless you want an additional free book, in which case you order all four now.

71ironjaw
Aug 17, 2010, 1:24 pm

Wow they are publishing the Selfish Gene by Richard Dawkins. I am in love with FS. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

72mookie1798
Aug 17, 2010, 1:32 pm

Not up on in my part of Canada (meaning just my house, that always seems to be the way with me). Any fairy books or Oz books to speak of?

73beatlemoon
Edited: Aug 17, 2010, 1:37 pm

>72 mookie1798:

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is in the Children's Fiction section, but I'm not seeing any new fairy books. (Very disappointing. Maybe they are holding back a new fairy book for later in the year?)

74HuxleyTheCat
Aug 17, 2010, 1:36 pm

>73 beatlemoon: No new ones yet, (we know that at least one is coming) but the other four are all available again.

75LolaWalser
Aug 17, 2010, 1:47 pm

#70

Really? They are asking me to buy only two books. No mention of another "installment".

By Toutatis. I think I'll renew today. In August!

Not that I'm carried away by the "freebies, but suddenly I'm dying to get my hands on Napoleon (and The Golem). Been reading too much about the Revolution again.

76LolaWalser
Aug 17, 2010, 1:48 pm

#72

Mookie, there's the Wizard of Oz, illustrations by Sara Ogilvie. The widely-coveted Red Fairy Book is in too.

77ironjaw
Aug 17, 2010, 2:02 pm

If you are having trouble seeing the new books try removing your browser's cookies.

78Quicksilver66
Aug 17, 2010, 2:35 pm

So that's all the published Fairy Books back in print. Now would seem to be a good time to start a collection of Fairy Books.

79haniwitch
Aug 17, 2010, 2:46 pm

I hate renewal. I can see a great whack of books that I could use to renew this year:

Red Fairy Book
Leonardo’s Notebooks
Moonfleet
Wonderful World of Oz
Pliny
Pagans & Christians
Lost World
Brat Farrar
The Golem
Song of Roland
Myths & Legends of Russia
Tao Te Ching
Robert Frost Selected Poems
Waverley (if it would show up on the Canadian website)

And who knows what other wonders will appear once I do renew (hopefully Waverley and where is Master and Margarita which on the Peter Suart page of the FS Prints site says 2010?).

My problem is I have no interest in the presentation volumes, not even the Diary. So, do I wait and see what the next offer will be (last year I got the Five Children & It and Treasure Seekers sets and the year before the du Maurier set), do I contact them and see if I can “make a deal” or do I order now so I don’t miss out on the Red Fairy Book again?

And are there different requirements for different countries? Apparently I (in Canada) need to order only two books to renew but jveezer (where are you located?) saw two books now, two books by March 2011, or a free book with four books ordered now.

I hate renewal.

80overthemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 3:00 pm

For renewal it asks me to order "at least four books", as usual.

81beatlemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 3:03 pm

Sigh. I hate renewal, too.

I'm in the US and I'm seeing a message that says I have to buy two books now and two by March. If I buy four now, I get "Nobel: A Century of Prizewinners" in addition to the other freebies.

However, the only freebie I'm interested in is "The Nude". The other items included are "The Great Naturalists", "The Great Explorers", "A Little Book of Language", and the Folio 2011 Diary. I guess "A Little Book of Language" might be diverting enough, but overall, it's a blah package.

So, like haniwitch, I wonder - should I wait, or try to negotiate?

82overthemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 3:22 pm

>81 beatlemoon: that is so many more books than in my offer, which is The Nude (am not interested), Little Book of Language, and the diary.

83skullduggery
Aug 17, 2010, 3:23 pm

Did anyone else notice that the backlist book prices went up quite a bit as well? I had budgeted for my renewal plan on books in the existing catalog, but the books seem to all be about 10% more than I had calculated, e.g. Green Fairy book has moved from $99 to $110, Gogol from $68 to $75, etc. (nb: This is on the oft-lamented Australian site though, so it might be localised punishment...)

84acidneutral
Aug 17, 2010, 3:27 pm

Wow, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is indeed quite wonderful! How does one tell what month it will be available? Right now the website just says "New".

Waverley
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Black Tulip
Metamorphoses and Other Stories
and many more!

I think I am going for this initial offer. All of the books interest me.

85LolaWalser
Aug 17, 2010, 3:28 pm

Prices went up some, that's for sure.

Overthemoon, I'm getting the same freebie package, but with only a 2-book purchase requirement, I don't much care. The Nude is welcome to replace my old paperback, though.

86mboudreau
Aug 17, 2010, 3:38 pm

How long is the current renewal offer likely to stay before FS tries to tempt us with a different offer? I'm not keenly interested in The Nude and the non-Folio volumes, but there's plenty on the backlist that could force my hand.

87belemnite
Aug 17, 2010, 3:46 pm

Just a quick look through the new books and I've already got a list of 10 that I really, really want (without even counting The Lantern Bearers and The Master and Margarita, which are both supposed to be published this year). A bit different to last year! But as I have no interest whatsoever in The Nude I'm going to force myself to wait a while and see what else comes along in terms of renewal packages.

88haniwitch
Aug 17, 2010, 3:51 pm

#84

The Black Tulip? Another book that isn't showing up on the Canadian website. Wonder what else will appear once I finally renew.

#86
In 2008 and 2009 I renewed about mid-October. I know that in 2008 I ordered as soon as the new offer came because I really wanted du Maurier's Cornish novels but I can't remember if that was the second offer after the original renewal offer or not.

891dragones
Aug 17, 2010, 4:16 pm

As I have not one iota of interest in this year's presentation volumes as currently offered, I am holding out for a better offer. I had also expected to see two more of the Aubrey-Maturin volumes available about now, or at least soon, and had counted on those being part of my renewal package. :( I don't see anything new from that set yet.

Further, the requirement to purchase at least 4 volumes is hard on my bank account. I do not have unlimited funds, nor do I have a credit card... and even last year's bank debit card somehow got compromised, so I no longer have the option to order via internet... meaning I will have to wait about another month for the Prioritie mail package from London to arrive here with whatever option they are going to offer. I certainly hope for something better than the current offer. I could even wait another two months for something really good.

90HuxleyTheCat
Aug 17, 2010, 4:44 pm

> 89 The next two O'Brians are definitely available. They had copies of Treason's Harbour in the Members' Room last week.

91LesMiserables
Aug 17, 2010, 4:53 pm

> 66

Bitter sweet!

They want $90 AUD!

92overthemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 5:00 pm

I just looked at the site again without logging in, and clicked on the little flags at the bottom to see the different prices. It seems that only the Canada flag doesn't show all the books - maybe they haven't finished converting all the prices to CA$ ?.

93vat1sem
Aug 17, 2010, 5:38 pm

No change at all in pricing. Good news in some ways. I'm not tempted at all to renew unless and until I get a really attractive offer. New books look good, but I'm in no hurry at all.

94elmaynard
Aug 17, 2010, 6:11 pm

I noticed quite a jump in the prices of some books in the US - so much so that I am thinking of waiting on some books that I had planned to use for renewal. Perhaps they will show up on sale later. I have no interest in the current offer, but will probably think about it and try to negotiate a deal. I did this last year and got three books I really wanted.

95beatlemoon
Aug 17, 2010, 8:43 pm

>94 elmaynard:

What are some of the price increases for the US? I haven't noticed any, but chase mentioned price increases for the US on another thread. Just curious what's different - I would find it surprising, after all, seeing as the exchange rate has been far more favorable to us in the last three years or so than the 2:1 rate Folio has been using.

96FionaCat
Aug 17, 2010, 9:16 pm

The only book I am definitely going to buy (so far ... I'm sure you will all talk me into something else!) is The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. The free package doesn't interest me at all, so I will wait for something more tempting. Esp. as it seems the prices have gone up ...

97indigosky
Aug 17, 2010, 9:31 pm

I cleared cookies & still cannot see the new books. :(

98elmaynard
Aug 17, 2010, 11:52 pm

>95 beatlemoon:

An example (and a book I formerly intended to renew with) is The Siege of Krishnapur. Formerly 49.95, now 64.95. The Picture of Dorian Gray went up marginally (2.00). I will have to check further and let you know.

99mookie1798
Aug 18, 2010, 12:43 am

I cleared cookies and all, still can't see it either. I even changed to different computer and can't see it. If anyone who can see could post a picture of Wizard of Oz, you would make my day :)

100justjim
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 12:54 am

Cover


Blurb
Introduced by Maria Tatar.
Illustrated by Sara Ogilvie.
Quarter-bound in buckram with Modigliani paper sides.
Printed with a design by Sara Ogilvie.
Set in Electra with Kane display.
200 pages.
25 colour and black-&-white images.
10"x7½".


Edit
Try this link.

101mookie1798
Aug 18, 2010, 12:55 am

Thank you so much justjim :)

102justjim
Aug 18, 2010, 12:59 am

My pleasure. Did the link work?

103Witchylady333
Aug 18, 2010, 1:37 am

grr I've cleared my cookies and still no sign of the renewal books, and I tried your link justjim but it told me I had 'the wrong geographical or renewal status'. Is this something to do with me only being a member for one year like the spring sale? I'll be getting seriously cheesed off with folio if they are continuing to persecute me because I've only been spending a ridiculous amount of money from them for a year! I'm still waiting for books to arrive from a Summer Sale purchase which are showing up as 'in stock' on the website and I bought well over a month ago.

This renewal offer better be good....

104cafernando
Aug 18, 2010, 1:50 am

Anyone from the international site who could see the renewal page? I ordered the introductory offer February this year and fulfilled the four book requirement around March. I'm not sure if they'll ask me to renew within the same year. Not that I'm wishing that they ask me to renew this soon, but I want to see the books they're offering for the 2011 membership year and would also want to participate in their sales.

105Tanglewood
Aug 18, 2010, 1:59 am

Could someone who can see the renewal books check the price on Night Thoughts? The price for the old membership year is $1975. Unfortunately, I fell for this when I saw it yesterday at the member's room. (On the positive side, I feel I can let the Metamorphoses and Liber Beastiarum go both of which I had been twitching for).

106drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 2:29 am

> 105

1,050 GBP
1,975 US$

107haniwitch
Aug 18, 2010, 2:33 am

#105
I checked the website without logging in and it's still $1,975.00 US. I finally caved in last year and bought it just before the price increased (it went from $1950 Can to $2200 Can). It took a lot of soul searching and debating with myself and I'd probably still be hesitating if not for the price increase (and the counter they had on the web page which really panicked me) but I don't regret it for an instant. And I've been doing a bit of twitching for Metamorphoses too but will probably hold off a little longer on that.

1081dragones
Aug 18, 2010, 3:04 am

104.> Chances are excellent they will ask you to renew soon. Membership begins at the same time of year for everyone, so if you joined late, you get a short membership year. They may not be finished putting up the renewal offers for everyone yet, which would explain why you can't see the renewal offers at this time.

109EveleenM
Aug 18, 2010, 4:19 am

#104
I'm an international (eurozone) customer, and I only joined a month ago on the last-minute one half-price book offer. I'm getting the renewal page.

Comparing with the variations others mentioned, I'm:
-Seeing all 4 batches of renewal books (September, December, March, June)
-Asked to buy 4 books to renew
-Being offered:The Nude by Kenneth Clark; The Great Naturalists; The Great Explorers; A Little Book of Language; The Folio Diary 2011

110N11284
Aug 18, 2010, 4:26 am

>95 beatlemoon: Beowulf which was one I had my eye on as a renewal has jumped up to £79.95. I'm not at all impressed with the current offer and will most likely not renew until this has improved.

111Willoyd
Aug 18, 2010, 4:58 am

>109 EveleenM: Another instance of regional differentiation: my offer details (UK) is the same as yours, except that they are not offering either The Great Naturalists or The Great Explorers. I think the same happened last year.

112Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 5:15 am

I am never impressed with the renewal offers - but there is the option of asking for a cash discount on a book instead. I can't remember what they offered last year. It was something like £60.00.

However, I think the new books for the year are excellent. A better list than last year. There is so much I want to get.

113drasvola
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 9:30 am

I've succumbed and renewed. Four titles:
The Black Tulip
Selected Poems by Frost
Metamorphosis, etc.
Waverley
Immediately after renewal new books (at a discount) appear on the webpage.
I plan to watch carefully for promotions, sales and other opportunities because there are a few more books I want. No known cure for this disease.

114ironjaw
Aug 18, 2010, 6:06 am

> 110 Beowulf was discounted at the start when it was introduced at around 20% but the original retail price was £79.95.

115N11284
Aug 18, 2010, 6:13 am

>113 drasvola:
draslova can you tell me some of the new titles that have appeared after you renewed?

116nadyaduck
Aug 18, 2010, 6:42 am

> 111 I'm in the UK and am being offered the Great Naturalists and The Great Explorers as well as the other three.

This is my first renewal, I don't know what to do. I'm going away in two weeks for three months to a part of the world I'm very unlikely to be able to have regular internet access and so won't be able to negotiate with FS or see any new offers they give. I'm not too interested in this offer, except for the Great Naturalists and that's not even FS. I'm starting to panic!!! I wish I knew more about this process. I really want the Beatrix Potter set, do you think they'd do a negotiation with that? Although to be honest I don't have any income from now until January so maybe I'd be better just pretending to Folio that I'm not interested.

117Pepys
Aug 18, 2010, 6:53 am

#116: You can wait a couple of months. There is no hurry. Sometime in November, Folio will make you another proposition for the renewal volumes. If it still does not interest you, you can make a deal with them and suggest a free set for about £80.

118Quicksilver66
Aug 18, 2010, 6:57 am

I've taken another look at the Nude and decided that It looks pretty interesting, so I've just taken that as my renewal offer. I can't be bothered faffing around this year.

I have chosen the 3 Fairy books, Rural Rides and Stalingrad as my renewal books.

> 116

Puffinmuck, no reason to panic at all. If you leave this until you get back from holiday the books you want will still be there and there may be a renewal offer that you prefer. If not, you can negotiate then. If you are pressed for cash you can pay for your renewal books in monthly installments, interest free.

119nadyaduck
Aug 18, 2010, 7:20 am

> 117, 118

Thanks, both of you. I had visions of new renewal offers and was busy planning who was going to be put in charge of my account, although I doubt I'd trust anyone to pick exactly what I wanted! The installments sound like a great idea. Unlike this unpaid sabbatical I decided on -- at renewal time of the year, honestly?? I can order myself some nice Christmas presents at this rate.

120LucasTrask
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 8:28 am

Here's an image of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz with slipcover.

121drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 8:36 am

> 115

N11284:

I can see reduced prices (amount in brackets) for:

Golem 19.95 (5)
Unreliable Memoirs 19.95 (3)
The Song of Roland (31.95 (8)
Reflections on the Revolution of France 19.95 (5)
The Wonderfuld Wizard of Oz 27.95 (7)

122Quicksilver66
Aug 18, 2010, 9:37 am

It's interesting that the Green, Red, Yellow and Blue Fairy Books have come back into print - with the exception of the Pink Fairy Book, for some reason.

Although they are not featrured on Folio's Schedule, I wonder if that means that we will shortly be seeing more Fairy Books. Having titles in a series out of print puts customers off when it comes to buying into a new series - perhaps that's what Folio is thinking.

123drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 9:57 am

> 122

There's been a lot of talk about the Fairy Books series. The illustrations that I have seen are very attractive. Are the books bought as mostly children's reading and enjoyment or are there any other literary values involved? Perhaps you have some considered opinion on the series. Thank you. I'm glad you have renewed so we can continue discussing FS editions.

124Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 10:10 am

> 123

Thank you Drasvola - I enjoy our discussions.

Previously I thought the Fairy Books were for children and had little interest in them. In fact I think I once posted here saying I could not understand why adults were so into these kids books. Since then I have read some fairy stories, as well as Tolkien's classic essay on Fairy Tales, and I have been converted. The Fairy Tales does have a unique charm and there is something elemental, almost arcehtypal, about them. Add to that the FS editions look beautiful and that always helps when it comes to trying out new new books.

I have revised my renewal order by adding Rural Rides, Moonfleet, Metamorphoses and the History of the Kings of Great Britain. I am going to use the monthly installment facility to spread the cost a little.

I am unsure about Lawrence's Crusader Castles. It looks as if it could be a little dry.

125drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 10:26 am

> 124

Your explanation and remarks make sense. There is indeed much to learn about social values in the characters and plots of fairy tales. I may order one volume to get a feel of the stories included: some are probably better known than others.

One drawback of the FS website is that it is not as easy to get a panoramic view of all the collections as one can with the printed material. For the next month or two I'm going to wait before I order any other book, unless something irresistible comes up, which will probably do.

It's also hard to wait for a book that is going to be published many months from now...

I always use the installment plan for my renewals. It balances the waiting period for the books.

126Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 10:32 am

> 124

Something irresistible always comes up - that's the problem.

As well as the scheduled titles one can rely on Folio to suddenly come up with some other "must have", either a new title, LE or an old title coming back into print.

Once when I was in the MR there was a rumour, and only a very vague and uncertain one, that Gormenghast could come back into print. I would buy that in a heartbeat.

127drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 10:44 am

> 126

That fits right in with castles and fantasy, doesn't it?

I don't think that it has been adapted as a graphic novel.

128ironjaw
Aug 18, 2010, 10:56 am

I am actually happy that FS Dickens nonsuch have reappeared. I never got the chance to buy anyone of them since a lot of members here talked about them and they sold out.

129Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 18, 2010, 11:32 am

> 128

Sadly, the complete Dickens set has not reappeared, Ironjaw. The ones on the site have been there for a while now. They are the last remaining titles.

130Quicksilver66
Aug 18, 2010, 11:32 am

For some odd reason the books for March and June have dropped of the website. Anyone else have this issue?

131drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 11:50 am

I'm seeing only September and December. Strange.

132mboudreau
Aug 18, 2010, 12:15 pm

> 130, 131
I see the March and June books from my browser in Chicago.

133affle
Aug 18, 2010, 12:16 pm

All seasons present for me.

134Quicksilver66
Aug 18, 2010, 12:19 pm

> 132, 133

Curious

As far as I know only myself and Drasvola have renewed and we are the only two that can't now see March and June.

135drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 12:27 pm

That's right! Maybe our first renewals mean that we can't see the last two quarters. Perhaps a cookie has been introduced in our computers...

136SirFolio16
Aug 18, 2010, 12:43 pm

I have also renewed and I can still see all of the future release months.

I am in the US.

137drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 12:55 pm

March and June are back.

138affle
Aug 18, 2010, 1:09 pm

Now we can all see all the books, here's an oddity for you to look at. Veteran Devotees will remember the discusssion about titles running up the spine, and when they changed to running down the spine. Have a look at the new Einstein book - I've looked over my shelves, and can't spot another spine like that, FS or otherwise. It may be enough to stop me buying it...

139drasvola
Aug 18, 2010, 1:17 pm

>138 affle:

You may recall that I'm in favor of the "wrong" style: reading from the bottom up. This pleases me only about 40%.

140Quicksilver66
Aug 18, 2010, 2:31 pm

> 138

The other Einstein title, "Relativity", has a spine like that, affle. The name points one direction and the title the other. I guess it's a visual pun on the concept of relativity.

141InVitrio
Aug 18, 2010, 5:44 pm

Hm, "The Periodic Table" is coming up...think I might have to renew, not least in case they keep coming out with Letterpress Shakespeares, I want to keep my edition number...

142ironjaw
Aug 18, 2010, 6:08 pm

Good to see you back SirFolio, haven't seen you here much lately

143SirFolio16
Aug 18, 2010, 7:15 pm

Thank you Ironjaw.

I have been vacationing in the Turks & Caicos islands and have had limited access to a computer.

144belemnite
Aug 19, 2010, 3:04 am

My shiny new prospectus arrived this morning! All my FS post gets delivered to work, so it's going to be a long wait for lunch time...

145LesMiserables
Aug 19, 2010, 3:39 am

> 1

Kudos to QS66 for providing deadly accurate information in post 1.

QS - Kindly persist in your subtle enquiries with a view to gauge whether our propensity for global equilibrium has filtered through to the foot soldiers on the ground (or the member's room).

146Quicksilver66
Aug 19, 2010, 4:59 am

> 145

I will Les Mis. I have not been there for a while but should be visiting early September.

147Pepys
Aug 19, 2010, 5:29 am

I am rather disappointed by the cover and spine of Utopia. There is no flavour of the 16th century, and it really does not incite my ordering it. Am I alone here to have this bad opinion?
Waverley looks nice. But I have an a-priori with Scott's novels because of his style. I shall have to think it over in the coming months... If someone is willing to incite me to read Waverley, I will be glad to accept his/her advice.

148LesMiserables
Aug 19, 2010, 6:36 am

> 147

Waverley is a great read. It truly is. Like many books from a different era, the language often is unfamiliar, but within a few pages one forgets this.

It is a fantastic adventure which I recommend humbly on the coat tails of the literati who have done so before me.

149Yorpa
Aug 19, 2010, 7:14 am

Not too fussed about the renewal offer, so I will probably wait, but the new books look good.

Especially delighted about The Selfish Gene - could never quite work out why they hadn't started with that, given it's a genuine science classic, and probably still Dawkins' best book.

150beatlemoon
Aug 19, 2010, 7:41 am

>147 Pepys:

I was surprised by the appearance of Utopia, too. It's so...modern. Or should that be mod? All I can think of is a department store my family used to shop at when I was young; the decor there was very late 60's, early 70's, and the lettering on the signage was similar to the font the Society has used on Utopia. It is quite bizarre for a copy of More's Utopia to be causing flashbacks of a shopping mall!

151Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 19, 2010, 8:33 am

> 147, 150

I like the cover of Utopia. After all a Utopia is a future or perfect society - so this type of modernistic depiction is just right.

152mboudreau
Aug 19, 2010, 8:34 am

>147 Pepys:, 150
I agree, the cover of Utopia is a disappointment. It looks as if the designer mistakenly thought it was a work of science fiction.

153mboudreau
Aug 19, 2010, 8:36 am

>151 Quicksilver66:
The name "Utopia" means "no place". More's work has nothing to do with futurism.

154Quicksilver66
Edited: Aug 19, 2010, 8:45 am

> 153

I am not suggesting that it does have anything to do with futurism. I have read the book ! However, when one commonly thinks of a utopia this is the sort of image that comes to mind.

155SpoonFed
Aug 19, 2010, 9:42 am

I like the cover and illustrations for Utopia. I'm not 100% thrilled with the spine font, but I really appreciate the way that it matches the font used in the artwork.

Speaking of which, I'm looking through the prospectus and the first two illustrations contain words ('travels' and 'justice'). I'm trying to work out the third - it looks like the tops of the towers spell out 'myth' maybe? But then on the right side there's what seems to be an 'r' and an 'a'. Mythra reminds me of Mithras, but that can't be right.

Can anyone help me out? I'm sure it's one of those completely obvious things if you look at it the right way and I'm just missing it at the moment.

156overthemoon
Aug 19, 2010, 9:54 am

If I squint at it I see Mythra, reading down from M at the top, curving down the left side to the H, then across to the R and an A below it, maybe the winding stair is an S?
Elsewhere I've seen Mithras written as Mythras, Mithra or Mythra.

157SpoonFed
Aug 19, 2010, 10:02 am

Yep, you can tell I've never read Utopia. A quick search reveals the following quote:

There are no images of God in their temples, therefore every one may represent him to his thoughts in his own way; nor do they use for him any other name than Mithras, their term in common for the divine essence, whatever otherwise they think of it; nor have they any forms of prayer, but such as every one of them may use without prejudice to his private opinion.

I just couldn't see the connection between Mithras and Utopia, but that quote makes the illustration much clearer to me!

158ironjaw
Aug 19, 2010, 10:10 am

>149 Yorpa:

The Selfish Gene is his best selling work. As it still sells well now I think it would be costly to acquire a license to publish that book first. But then again a book that sells well would be on a financial point of view to be the best place to start to secure that the batch produced would sell out because of demand.

I am really happy about it myself having got the other three as well. Dawkins himself considers his best book to be Climbing Mount Improbable. I am hoping to replace all my paperbacks with FS if they all get published.

159elmaynard
Aug 19, 2010, 7:03 pm

If you renew with two books already published and two books out in December, are you charged now for all four books, or are you charged as they are ready to ship?

160leo6
Aug 19, 2010, 7:41 pm

I'm from Canada. I renewed and I can still only see the books for September and December. Is this a common problem?

161Willoyd
Aug 19, 2010, 8:59 pm

>159 elmaynard: In the past it's been when ready to ship.

162elmaynard
Aug 19, 2010, 11:20 pm

Thanks Willoyd. That helps!

163CatherineM
Aug 20, 2010, 4:59 am

I am in Europe (but not in the UK) and I have always been charged immediately, even when the book won't be shipped to me until June. This was true this membership year as well, I chose the Sun King which won't be published until June and I have already paid for it.

164N11284
Aug 20, 2010, 5:36 am

>159 elmaynard: Last year I choose 2 books which were to be published later in the year. The full amount was charged up front. The books were dispatched when published.

165mboudreau
Aug 20, 2010, 2:19 pm

Does anyone know if Inventions of the Middle Ages is the same text published by Columbia under the title Books, Banks, Buttons and Other Inventions from the Middle Ages (translated by William McCuaig)?

166Willoyd
Edited: Aug 20, 2010, 3:04 pm

>165 mboudreau: Yes it is, according to the colophon.
>163 CatherineM:, 164. Mysterious - I've gone back to my invoices and card statements from last year, and the 2 books I ordered that weren't as yet published were only charged when sent.

167katylit
Sep 1, 2010, 2:32 pm

Hello everyone. I've rejoined the group because I'm finally able to join Folio this year. I left the group 'cause it was too hard to read all the wonderful discussions about these beautiful books and not succumb to buying any books ;-)

BUT! Now I can, well ... at least some. I'm getting the Fairy Tales for joining and then I picked my four books too, to get the tote: Hons and Rebels, The Monk, Just So Stories and A Month In The Country. I have so many books I want to get over the year *sigh* I will have to be careful, and budget myself diligently.