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Once, in a gods-forsaken hellhole called Koom Valley, trolls and dwarfs met in bloody combat. Centuries later, each species still views the other with simmering animosity. Lately, the influential dwarf, Grag Hamcrusher, has been fomenting unrest among Ankh-Morpork's more diminutive citizens--a volatile situation made far worse when the pint-size provocateur is discovered bashed to death . . . with a troll club lying conveniently nearby. Commander Sam Vimes of the City Watch is aware of the show more importance of solving the Hamcrusher homicide without delay. (Vimes's second most-pressing responsibility, in fact, next to always being home at six p.m. sharp to read Where's My Cow? to Sam, Jr.) But more than one corpse is waiting for Vimes in the eerie, summoning darkness of a labyrinthine mine network being secretly excavated beneath Ankh-Morpork's streets. And the deadly puzzle is pulling him deep into the muck and mire of superstition, hatred, and fear--and perhaps all the way to Koom Valley itself. show lessTags
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Hard to believe this is my first Discworld audio book, I think it's one of those pleasures postponed and holy crap the narrator is Rivers Of London level good, easily. Manages to absolutely embody the characters, the place, the prose, the dialogue and every joke comes through, every wonderful warm emotional beat that only Pratchett could deliver.
Thud - Pratchett
Audio performance by Stephen Briggs
4 stars
More fun with Sam Vimes and the Watch in Ankh - Morpork and Uberwald. It’s silly, very silly. More than enough good laughs and just enough underlying truth and wisdom.
As usual, Commander Vimes copes with the overseeing the Watch while containing the crimes and criminals of Ankh-Morpork. But, his most pressing commitment is his daily exploration of literature with his infant son. Anyone who has ever gone down the text wormhole of a young child’s favorite inane text will appreciate the the predicament of Sam Vimes reading, Where’s My Cow?. Pratchett absolutely nails it. All of the plot points, the character interaction, the wordplay and nonsense of this book boils down to show more the overriding importance of the bedtime book ritual. It’s such a winning combination; absurdist humour with all the fuzzy warm feels of love and loyalty.
And then there was this little side plot. Sargeant Angua (werewolf) and Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom (dwarf), inaugurate Constable Sally von Humpeding (vampire) into the Watch with a girl’s night out. Somehow this ends with the two shape-changing characters returning to human shape, naked and in the mud in the basement of a strip club. This is truly high class, priceless literature. It’s possible that some people might have been offended. Does it expose Pratchett as a sexist pig? I don’t know. I just know that I laughed until tears came. show less
Audio performance by Stephen Briggs
4 stars
More fun with Sam Vimes and the Watch in Ankh - Morpork and Uberwald. It’s silly, very silly. More than enough good laughs and just enough underlying truth and wisdom.
As usual, Commander Vimes copes with the overseeing the Watch while containing the crimes and criminals of Ankh-Morpork. But, his most pressing commitment is his daily exploration of literature with his infant son. Anyone who has ever gone down the text wormhole of a young child’s favorite inane text will appreciate the the predicament of Sam Vimes reading, Where’s My Cow?. Pratchett absolutely nails it. All of the plot points, the character interaction, the wordplay and nonsense of this book boils down to show more the overriding importance of the bedtime book ritual. It’s such a winning combination; absurdist humour with all the fuzzy warm feels of love and loyalty.
And then there was this little side plot. Sargeant Angua (werewolf) and Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom (dwarf), inaugurate Constable Sally von Humpeding (vampire) into the Watch with a girl’s night out. Somehow this ends with the two shape-changing characters returning to human shape, naked and in the mud in the basement of a strip club. This is truly high class, priceless literature. It’s possible that some people might have been offended. Does it expose Pratchett as a sexist pig? I don’t know. I just know that I laughed until tears came. show less
Jeeze, every time I read a Discworld novel, it's always like coming back to a very funny home full of angry dwarves and pissed trolls doing their best to get drunk and start a war over some ancient grudge that no one alive actually understands.
In other words, like Thanksgiving Dinner.
Or something like that.
Indeed, it's actually a police procedural with the glorious Vimes as he tries to stop another civil war on the streets of Ankh-Morpork the best way he can... by cutting through all the red tape and bull-heading his way through every single problem.
Or going berserk while yelling a kid's bedtime story, thoroughly destroying the morale of his enemies.
It's the little things.
I love these books. :)
In other words, like Thanksgiving Dinner.
Or something like that.
Indeed, it's actually a police procedural with the glorious Vimes as he tries to stop another civil war on the streets of Ankh-Morpork the best way he can... by cutting through all the red tape and bull-heading his way through every single problem.
Or going berserk while yelling a kid's bedtime story, thoroughly destroying the morale of his enemies.
It's the little things.
I love these books. :)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Your grace."
"I know that one," said Vimes. "Who watches the watchmen? Me, Mr. Pessimal."
"Ah, but who watches you, your grace?" said the inspector, with a brief smile.
"I do that, too. All the time," said Vimes. "Believe me."
[b:Thud!|62530|Thud! (Discworld, #34; City Watch #7)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320495268s/62530.jpg|819104] continues the tradition of the City Watch series digging into bigotry and racism. There's the feud of centuries between the dwarfs and trolls on the anniversary of the long ago battle of Koom valley which no one remembers for sure who first attacked who. But does it really matter? They hate each other. They've always hated each other.
At the same show more time, Vimes' watch has been adding more and more diverse officers over the books. Now, he finally has to accept one he never accepted: Sally the Vampire. She's an interesting character, but in particularly, it's really interesting to read her interactions with Angua. It's the same tension of centuries on a much smaller, more personal scale.
Overall, it's the little details of the world that really make this story. It's not as funny as the early Discworld books, but it's a lot more solid. There's a reason people suggest that you start with the City Watch books, [b:Thud!|62530|Thud! (Discworld, #34; City Watch #7)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320495268s/62530.jpg|819104] in particular.
With that, there's only one more in the City Watch subseries: [b:Snuff|8785374|Snuff (Discworld, #39; City Watch #8)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1302694636s/8785374.jpg|13659124]. It's bittersweet. I'm looking forward to it... but I don't really want them to end.
So it goes.
Aside:
“Would a minute have mattered? No, probably not, although his young son appeared to have a very accurate internal clock. Possibly even 2 minutes would be okay. Three minutes, even. You could go to five minutes, perhaps. But that was just it. If you could go for five minutes, then you'd go to ten, then half an hour, a couple of hours...and not see your son all evening. So that was that. Six o'clock, prompt. Every day. Read to young Sam. No excuses. He'd promised himself that. No excuses. No excuses at all. Once you had a good excuse, you opened the door to bad excuses.”
With a 16 month old little boy at home, the scenes where Vimes (et at) moves heaven and earth to make sure he's back at precisely 6pm to read to his 18 month old son are pretty awesome. show less
Another excellent Discworld book. Pratchett once again seamlessly blends serious issues (intolerance, racism, fatherhood) with a galloping plot, and the little details which make his books so special. Auditors, pole-dancers and violent butlers, without forgetting the masterpiece of "Where's my cow?". Briliant.
folks, we've hit a sweet spot. Yes this has some of Sir Terry's Patented Benign Racism, which makes me roll my eyes, but then yknow makes up for it with the ending. (But also good god please Sir Terry.) It also has things I LOVE--Vimes being competent even when he doesn't know all the clues, Vimes having People to Protect (the addition of Young Sam is the smartest thing Sir Terry ever did to keep me personally reading,) Sybil being a badass and also competent, The Colon and Nobby Show... It's just like a beautiful mix of so much that I already love about these characters, all rolled up into one.
Just a real delicious payoff of all the previous Watch books I've read, a delightful fun time, and a good ending that made me feel good.
Just a real delicious payoff of all the previous Watch books I've read, a delightful fun time, and a good ending that made me feel good.
Thud is unusual but also only an averagely good Terry Pratchett book by his standards, complimented by a spin-off board game. Is Koom Valley, the core of the story, a geographical place or has it become a concept in the mind? What is Koom Valley is a question along the same lines as What is Calvary, a basic hill or a fate or the concept of a stage before redemption that anyone can go through? I can’t be sure whether the Discworld board game (dwarves against trolls) inspired this book or if the book inspired the board game but the game is in parody (not tactical simplification) of the ancient battle described in the book and the book describes the game as if it exists already and which side usually wins, so vice versa. A children’s show more book called Where’s My Cow? appears to be a secondary spin-off commercialisation of this same novel. Talk about cashing in. In other words, it’s another piece of the convoluted and self-referencing Discworld series. The plot concerns an ancient battleground about which it’s not known for sure whether the dwarves ambushed the trolls or perhaps it was the trolls who ambushed the dwarves. The dwarves and trolls have their own opposing theories, in which they are both the respective victims and that’s why they can never get along, why the feud will never be settled. They get drunk and re-enact their prejudices, which isn’t against the law. This time though there’s been a murder, which is of official interest but who wants to get in the middle of a dwarf/troll argument? Step forth the author’s favourite character, Commander Sam Vimes of the City Watch, a kind of grizzled detective, balancing his own light and darkness of the soul. Pratchett explores in this a parable that could fit into our world, as seen through the distorted lens of fantasy. The humanist message we’re supposed to pick up is that sectarian violence is pointless and leaves no winners. Most of us have a Koom Valley deep within the psyche. It’s often an historical event, usually a piece of ancient craziness or national injustice, which helps to define our identity, a beacon for the disaffected and anchor of tribal identity that we need to feel safe. We weren’t there but do take it personally and will teach the next generation to carry it on. Of course, things rumble on. The Cranberries summed it up with “In your head, they’re still fighting”. George Orwell studied the motivations of socialist intellectuals much like himself and he concluded that if you set aside the words they say, it’s easy to see they don’t actually like the poor and don’t want to help them; they just hate the rich. It’s the psyche gone primal again. So the leaders of both sides say it’s all fun and everyone’s gone mild and reasonable after the long years, in much the same way that diamonds are squishy. Can anyone really win now? Pratchett thinks so and, against the odds and entrenched personalities, there’s hope of reconciliation. I wouldn’t pin much hope on that but this is a fantasy. Thud is a thought-provoking book, but isn’t outrageous fun, just fantasy delivering rationality, a sweetened pill to encourage the reader to re-evaluate whatever they secretly hate but won’t admit to. It says Thud on the cover. You weren’t expecting it to be light? show less
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Terry Pratchett was on born April 28, 1948 in Beaconsfield, United Kingdom. He left school at the age of 17 to work on his local paper, the Bucks Free Press. While with the Press, he took the National Council for the Training of Journalists proficiency class. He also worked for the Western Daily Press and the Bath Chronicle. He produced a series show more of cartoons for the monthly journal, Psychic Researcher, describing the goings-on at the government's fictional paranormal research establishment, Warlock Hall. In 1980, he was appointed publicity officer for the Central Electricity Generating Board with responsibility for three nuclear power stations. His first novel, The Carpet People, was published in 1971. His first Discworld novel, The Colour of Magic, was published in 1983. He became a full-time author in 1987. He wrote more than 70 books during his lifetime including The Dark Side of the Sun, Strata, The Light Fantastic, Equal Rites, Mort, Sourcery, Truckers, Diggers, Wings, Dodger, Raising Steam, Dragons at Crumbling Castle: And Other Tales, and The Shephard's Crown. He was diagnosis with early onset Alzheimer's disease in 2007. He was knighted for services to literature in 2009 and received the World Fantasy award for life achievement in 2010. He died on March 12, 2015 at the age of 66. (Bowker Author Biography) show less
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- Thud!
- Original title
- Thud!
- Original publication date
- 2005-09-13
- People/Characters
- Grag Bashfulson; Brick [Discworld]; Fred Colon (Sergeant); Detritus; Igor [Discworld] (Constable, City Watch); Carrot Ironfoundersson (Captain) (show all 23); Cheery Littlebottom; Nobby Nobbs (Corporal); Miss. Pickles/Pointer; Mr. Shine; Rhys Rhysson; Mustrum Ridcully (Archchancellor); Havelock Vetinari; Sam Vimes (Commander); Young Sam Vimes; Lady Sybil Ramkin Vimes; Salacia von Humpeding (Sally); Angua von Überwald (Sergeant); Tawneee (Betty); Willikins; Purity [Discworld]; B'hrian Bloodaxe; Ardent
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- Ankh-Morpork, Discworld; Koom Valley, Discworld; Discworld; City Watch Headquarters, Ankh-Morpork, Discworld
- Epigraph
- Him who mountain crush him no
Him who sun him stop him no
Him who hammer him break him no
Him who fire him fear him no
Him who raise him head above him heart
Him diamond
- Translation of troll pictograms... (show all) found carved on a basalt slab in the deepest level of the Ankh-Morpork treacle mines, in pig-treacle measures estimated at 500,000 years old. - First words
- The first thing Tak did, he wrote himself.
- Quotations
- Tak ... does not require we think of him, only that we think,
Coffee is a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to your older self.
Why bother with a cunning plan when a simple one will do?
Once you had a good excuse, you opened the door to bad excuses.
Treat this as a learning exercise.
It was written in some holy book, apparently, so that made it okay, and probably compulsory.
For the enemy is not Troll, nor it is Dwarf, but it is the baleful, the malign, the cowardly, the vessels of hatred, those who do a bad thing and call it good.
'I've got to set a good example.'
'I'm sure you intend to, Sam, but you look like a horrible warning.'
And thus we wear down mountains. Water dripping on a stone, dissolving and removing. Changing the shape of the world, one drop at a time.
I've seen men die valiantly. There's no future in it.
The trouble was, the trolls up in the plaza probably weren't bad trolls, and the dwarfs down in the square probably weren't bad dwarfs, either. People who probably weren't bad could kill you.
A wise ruler thinks twice before directing violence against someone because he does not approve of what they say.
Beating people up in little rooms…he knew where that led. And if you did it for a good reason, you'd do it for a bad one. You couldn't say 'we're the good guys' and do bad-guy things.
'If you're not with us, you're against us. Huh. If you're not an apple, you're a banana.'
'A cap-brim sewn with sharpened pennies, sir. An ever-present help in times of trouble.' ‘Ye gods, man! You could put someone's eye out with something like that.' ‘With care, sir, yes,' said Willikins, meticulously foldin... (show all)g a towel.
They shared a moment of silence as Nobby ran this image in the cinema of his imagination and hastily consigned much of it to the cutting-room floor.
'Yeah, but your mate Dave says the government always hushes things up, Nobby,' said Fred. 'Well, they do.' 'Except he always gets to hear about 'em, and he never gets hushed up,' said Fred.
'He created me. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen? Me. I watch him. Always.' - Last words
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