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Once, in a gods-forsaken hellhole called Koom Valley, trolls and dwarfs met in bloody combat. Centuries later, each species still views the other with simmering animosity. Lately, the influential dwarf, Grag Hamcrusher, has been fomenting unrest among Ankh-Morpork's more diminutive citizens--a volatile situation made far worse when the pint-size provocateur is discovered bashed to death . . . with a troll club lying conveniently nearby. Commander Sam Vimes of the City Watch is aware of the show more importance of solving the Hamcrusher homicide without delay. (Vimes's second most-pressing responsibility, in fact, next to always being home at six p.m. sharp to read Where's My Cow? to Sam, Jr.) But more than one corpse is waiting for Vimes in the eerie, summoning darkness of a labyrinthine mine network being secretly excavated beneath Ankh-Morpork's streets. And the deadly puzzle is pulling him deep into the muck and mire of superstition, hatred, and fear--and perhaps all the way to Koom Valley itself. show less

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Commander Vimes never has enough time. He's got an ever-expanding watch to supervise including their first-ever vampire watchman, a brewing war between trolls and dwarves to quell, and baby Sam expects their daily picture book reading of Where's My Cow? to begin at 6pm on the dot, no excuses. When an extremist dwarf is murdered, apparently by a troll, Vimes is determined to get to the bottom of it, even if the bottom is buried deep beneath the site of a legendary battle of dwarf vs. troll. With help from a pocket organizing demon (a hilarious running joke on Blackberries) from Lady Sybil, Vimes may just be able to find out what those extremist dwarves are up to under Ankh-Morpork, how they're connected to a stolen mural, what really show more happened in the legendary battle between dwarves and trolls, and still manage to read to young Sam. Of course, he may have to do all of that at once while battling an ancient dwarf curse lodged in his consciousness.

Thud! is as funny, insightful and entertaining as any of Pratchett's other Discworld novels, and is deftly organized around Vimes' daily reading of Where's My Cow?, young Sam's favorite picture book. At the climax, Vimes' investigation of the budding dwarf/troll war entwines with the text of Where's My Cow with hilarious results.
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Even when I don’t love a Discworld novel, I still love it, ya know? Pratchett is so funny– sometimes outright laughter-provoking, sometimes by his sly commentary on human nature and civilization. Thud wasn’t my favorite, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t a good read. I don’t think this book stands alone as much as some of the other ones– you will appreciate it more if you have read the City Watch sub series and followed Sam Vimes in his career and life. It terms of the Discworld series as a whole, the book is good, but not a shining star.
Thud! is a solid City Watch novel, not up to the lofty heights of Jingo or Night Watch, but a solid adventure with some interesting things to say in the line of, say, Men at Arms. There's ethnic tensions brewing between trolls and dwarves, both in and out of the city, and Vimes has to (as usual) simultaneously investigate a murder and stop mass political violence as well. There's a lot of fun stuff here: the auditor who becomes a Watch member himself, another Nobbs and Colon investigation, the high-speed trip to Koom Valley, Vimes's devotion to his daily ritual with his son. But some of the threads don't feel effectively drawn through, and I got a bit confused at all the stuff with the Summoning Dark, a demonic sigil accidentally show more absorbed by Vimes. show less
Thud - Pratchett
Audio performance by Stephen Briggs
4 stars

More fun with Sam Vimes and the Watch in Ankh - Morpork and Uberwald. It’s silly, very silly. More than enough good laughs and just enough underlying truth and wisdom.

As usual, Commander Vimes copes with the overseeing the Watch while containing the crimes and criminals of Ankh-Morpork. But, his most pressing commitment is his daily exploration of literature with his infant son. Anyone who has ever gone down the text wormhole of a young child’s favorite inane text will appreciate the the predicament of Sam Vimes reading, Where’s My Cow?. Pratchett absolutely nails it. All of the plot points, the character interaction, the wordplay and nonsense of this book boils down to show more the overriding importance of the bedtime book ritual. It’s such a winning combination; absurdist humour with all the fuzzy warm feels of love and loyalty.

And then there was this little side plot. Sargeant Angua (werewolf) and Sergeant Cheery Littlebottom (dwarf), inaugurate Constable Sally von Humpeding (vampire) into the Watch with a girl’s night out. Somehow this ends with the two shape-changing characters returning to human shape, naked and in the mud in the basement of a strip club. This is truly high class, priceless literature. It’s possible that some people might have been offended. Does it expose Pratchett as a sexist pig? I don’t know. I just know that I laughed until tears came.
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Jeeze, every time I read a Discworld novel, it's always like coming back to a very funny home full of angry dwarves and pissed trolls doing their best to get drunk and start a war over some ancient grudge that no one alive actually understands.

In other words, like Thanksgiving Dinner.

Or something like that.

Indeed, it's actually a police procedural with the glorious Vimes as he tries to stop another civil war on the streets of Ankh-Morpork the best way he can... by cutting through all the red tape and bull-heading his way through every single problem.

Or going berserk while yelling a kid's bedtime story, thoroughly destroying the morale of his enemies.

It's the little things.

I love these books. :)

"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Your grace."

"I know that one," said Vimes. "Who watches the watchmen? Me, Mr. Pessimal."

"Ah, but who watches you, your grace?" said the inspector, with a brief smile.

"I do that, too. All the time," said Vimes. "Believe me."


[b:Thud!|62530|Thud! (Discworld, #34; City Watch #7)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320495268s/62530.jpg|819104] continues the tradition of the City Watch series digging into bigotry and racism. There's the feud of centuries between the dwarfs and trolls on the anniversary of the long ago battle of Koom valley which no one remembers for sure who first attacked who. But does it really matter? They hate each other. They've always hated each other.

At the same show more time, Vimes' watch has been adding more and more diverse officers over the books. Now, he finally has to accept one he never accepted: Sally the Vampire. She's an interesting character, but in particularly, it's really interesting to read her interactions with Angua. It's the same tension of centuries on a much smaller, more personal scale.

Overall, it's the little details of the world that really make this story. It's not as funny as the early Discworld books, but it's a lot more solid. There's a reason people suggest that you start with the City Watch books, [b:Thud!|62530|Thud! (Discworld, #34; City Watch #7)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1320495268s/62530.jpg|819104] in particular.

With that, there's only one more in the City Watch subseries: [b:Snuff|8785374|Snuff (Discworld, #39; City Watch #8)|Terry Pratchett|https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1302694636s/8785374.jpg|13659124]. It's bittersweet. I'm looking forward to it... but I don't really want them to end.

So it goes.

Aside:

“Would a minute have mattered? No, probably not, although his young son appeared to have a very accurate internal clock. Possibly even 2 minutes would be okay. Three minutes, even. You could go to five minutes, perhaps. But that was just it. If you could go for five minutes, then you'd go to ten, then half an hour, a couple of hours...and not see your son all evening. So that was that. Six o'clock, prompt. Every day. Read to young Sam. No excuses. He'd promised himself that. No excuses. No excuses at all. Once you had a good excuse, you opened the door to bad excuses.”


With a 16 month old little boy at home, the scenes where Vimes (et at) moves heaven and earth to make sure he's back at precisely 6pm to read to his 18 month old son are pretty awesome.
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folks, we've hit a sweet spot. Yes this has some of Sir Terry's Patented Benign Racism, which makes me roll my eyes, but then yknow makes up for it with the ending. (But also good god please Sir Terry.) It also has things I LOVE--Vimes being competent even when he doesn't know all the clues, Vimes having People to Protect (the addition of Young Sam is the smartest thing Sir Terry ever did to keep me personally reading,) Sybil being a badass and also competent, The Colon and Nobby Show... It's just like a beautiful mix of so much that I already love about these characters, all rolled up into one.

Just a real delicious payoff of all the previous Watch books I've read, a delightful fun time, and a good ending that made me feel good.

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Terry Pratchett was on born April 28, 1948 in Beaconsfield, United Kingdom. He left school at the age of 17 to work on his local paper, the Bucks Free Press. While with the Press, he took the National Council for the Training of Journalists proficiency class. He also worked for the Western Daily Press and the Bath Chronicle. He produced a series show more of cartoons for the monthly journal, Psychic Researcher, describing the goings-on at the government's fictional paranormal research establishment, Warlock Hall. In 1980, he was appointed publicity officer for the Central Electricity Generating Board with responsibility for three nuclear power stations. His first novel, The Carpet People, was published in 1971. His first Discworld novel, The Colour of Magic, was published in 1983. He became a full-time author in 1987. He wrote more than 70 books during his lifetime including The Dark Side of the Sun, Strata, The Light Fantastic, Equal Rites, Mort, Sourcery, Truckers, Diggers, Wings, Dodger, Raising Steam, Dragons at Crumbling Castle: And Other Tales, and The Shephard's Crown. He was diagnosis with early onset Alzheimer's disease in 2007. He was knighted for services to literature in 2009 and received the World Fantasy award for life achievement in 2010. He died on March 12, 2015 at the age of 66. (Bowker Author Biography) show less

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Briggs, Stephen (Narrator)
Kidby, Paul (Cover artist)
Leitch, Maurice (Producer & director)
Matthews, Robin (Photographer)
McKowen, Scott (Cover artist)
Robinson, Tony (Narrator)

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Canonical title
Thud!
Original title
Thud!
Original publication date
2005-09-13
People/Characters
Grag Bashfulson; Brick [Discworld]; Fred Colon (Sergeant); Detritus; Igor [Discworld] (Constable, City Watch); Carrot Ironfoundersson (Captain) (show all 23); Cheery Littlebottom; Nobby Nobbs (Corporal); Miss. Pickles/Pointer; Mr. Shine; Rhys Rhysson; Mustrum Ridcully (Archchancellor); Havelock Vetinari; Sam Vimes (Commander); Young Sam Vimes; Lady Sybil Ramkin Vimes; Salacia von Humpeding (Sally); Angua von Überwald (Sergeant); Tawneee (Betty); Willikins; Purity [Discworld]; B'hrian Bloodaxe; Ardent
Important places
Ankh-Morpork, Discworld; Koom Valley, Discworld; Discworld; City Watch Headquarters, Ankh-Morpork, Discworld
Epigraph
Him who mountain crush him no
Him who sun him stop him no
Him who hammer him break him no
Him who fire him fear him no
Him who raise him head above him heart
Him diamond

- Translation of troll pictograms... (show all) found carved on a basalt slab in the deepest level of the Ankh-Morpork treacle mines, in pig-treacle measures estimated at 500,000 years old.
First words
The first thing Tak did, he wrote himself.
Quotations
Tak ... does not require we think of him, only that we think,
Coffee is a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to your older self.
Why bother with a cunning plan when a simple one will do?
Once you had a good excuse, you opened the door to bad excuses.
Treat this as a learning exercise.
It was written in some holy book, apparently, so that made it okay, and probably compulsory.
For the enemy is not Troll, nor it is Dwarf, but it is the baleful, the malign, the cowardly, the vessels of hatred, those who do a bad thing and call it good.
'I've got to set a good example.'
'I'm sure you intend to, Sam, but you look like a horrible warning.'
And thus we wear down mountains. Water dripping on a stone, dissolving and removing. Changing the shape of the world, one drop at a time.
I've seen men die valiantly. There's no future in it.
The trouble was, the trolls up in the plaza probably weren't bad trolls, and the dwarfs down in the square probably weren't bad dwarfs, either. People who probably weren't bad could kill you.
A wise ruler thinks twice before directing violence against someone because he does not approve of what they say.
Beating people up in little rooms…he knew where that led. And if you did it for a good reason, you'd do it for a bad one. You couldn't say 'we're the good guys' and do bad-guy things.
'If you're not with us, you're against us. Huh. If you're not an apple, you're a banana.'
'A cap-brim sewn with sharpened pennies, sir. An ever-present help in times of trouble.' ‘Ye gods, man! You could put someone's eye out with something like that.' ‘With care, sir, yes,' said Willikins, meticulously foldin... (show all)g a towel.
They shared a moment of silence as Nobby ran this image in the cinema of his imagination and hastily consigned much of it to the cutting-room floor.
'Yeah, but your mate Dave says the government always hushes things up, Nobby,' said Fred. 'Well, they do.' 'Except he always gets to hear about 'em, and he never gets hushed up,' said Fred.
'He created me. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchmen? Me. I watch him. Always.'
Last words
(Click to show. Warning: May contain spoilers.)Nevertheless, it was close enough for now.
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English

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823.914Literature & rhetoricEnglish & Old English literaturesEnglish fiction1900-1901-19991945-1999
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PR6066 .R34 .T49Language and LiteratureEnglishEnglish Literature1961-2000
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